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12.8V 100Ah Lithium Deep Cycle Battery $399 (Was $899) Delivered ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Jaycar

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4 day Spring sale at Jaycar has this battery down from $899 to $399. Cannot comment on how good it is, but generally Jaycar is better than eBay IMO.

Their info: This 100Ah model can provide continuous current up to 50A, with peaks of up to 100A. It’s not suitable for a primary vehicle starting battery, however is absolutely perfect for house batteries, backup batteries, and virtually any other application where you would typically use a large lead acid / AGM battery.
Battery Peak Current
100A
Internal Resistance
60mΩ
Battery Chemical Composition
Lithium Ferrous Phosphate (LiFePO4)
Battery usage
Bulk Storage
Peak Discharge Duration
5sec
Amp Hour Rating
100Ah
Continuous Current
50A
Type of battery
li-ion
20 Hour Capacity
100Ah
Connection Type
M8 Bolt/Nut
Nominal Voltage
12.8V
Cut-Off Voltage
9.2V

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  • +17

    RRP seems ludicrous

    • +27

      generally Jaycar is better than eBay IMO.

      Not my experience, I find mostly junk quality stuff at Jaycar at ridiculous prices. Occasionally a good deal. Occasionally I buy the junk cause I need something now and alternatives take longer than I can wait.

      • +14

        Also not my experience.
        Jaycar is for when you need stuff now, and not in a few days. Pretty much anything else online or in-store will be better and cheaper.
        As a personal anecdote I found that some of their project boxes are over 500% markup from the supplier via Digikey/Mouser, with no value-add (Other than convenience?) and I just assume everything else is too.
        If you look hard enough, you can find unbranded versions of everything they sell on either Digikey/Mouser, or Alibaba.

        • +1

          And another of the same opinion.

          That said there is a bunch of stuff at reasonable prices in this sale.

      • +2

        Yeah Jaycar wanted $60 for a 12v4A adapter. Got the same thing sent to me the next day from Amazon for $20. I only get stuff from Jaycar when I want it now, otherwise I'm happy to wait and save money

        • +4

          Agree. Lets let Jaycar die slowly….

          • -1

            @Naigrabzo: Would have been nice if it happened before the owner did.

          • @Naigrabzo: Jaycar will face the same outcome as Dick Smith which is sad because I will miss(ed) both. Sadly these type of store will never survive.

            Dick Smtih changed it business model and Jaycar is also changing its model.

      • Their fridge is good. I got a 55L for $170 and the compressor is way quieter than my old Anaconda

        Cools down faster too

      • I agree.

        I was looking for AV to HDMI adapter, jarcar was $30 and the same one on ebay was around $10 with shipping for the very same box.

      • Agree with OP that eBay is usually worse junk.

    • +1

      Yeah. Jaycar will have just ordered some chinese pouch cell batteries and had their Jaycar labels put on them. May as well buy the voltx or no name power bolt for $298 from eBay. I bought a second one of those after the first one performed fawlessly for 12 months. Capacity is accurate.

      • These cheaper batteries are typically just relabeled Ritar or Powerroad, there are not many companies packaging supplied cells and doing their own BMS design. Usually they provide input on BMS and feature requirements that can be accommodated at extra cost.

        These LiFePO4's almost always meet capacity.

    • +1

      My first ever job was at Jaycar working retail, worked there for years and was Duty Manager - employees would receive up to 70% discount on RRP, that should say plenty. I saw their back-end markups on products, we're talking anywhere from 100s to several 1000s % on cost.

      Their products are all sourced via chinese wholesale, not that that's surprising. Knowing what I know meant I only ever go to Jaycar for the bare essentials (cable, etc.) and eBay the rest.

      • -1

        The 500% markup for products is so they can pay you a decent wage.

  • Why isn't it suitable for car?

    • +8

      Car starting batteries can usually provide many hundreds of amps at peak, ie 800ACCA is common, this can only provide 100A peak.

    • +8

      It's not a crank battery would be my understanding. Constant discharge rather than peak discharge?!

    • +4

      LifePO4 also don't like heat so shouldn't be used under the bonnet.
      There are some brands that claimed theirs could and there are some examples on you tube of people doing long term reviews of them and they pretty much fail after 2 years.

      • +2

        So all I have to do for some sweet weight savings is to somehow find a way to move my battery to the boot?

        Is it worth it? Probably $1500 for anti-gravity starter battery and to get someone to do the wiring and harness for the move.

        Might be better to just hit the gym for that 10kg weight saving

      • LiFePO4 = lithium iron phosphate battery.

        I had to google what y'all talking about so leaving this for anyone else playing along

    • +2

      Car batteries are designed to delivery huge bursts of power for a very short period of time.
      This one can't do that.

      • +2

        It's not because it's a LiFePo4, its because the anemic Battery Management system that stops the Lifepo4 cells from under charging or overcharging/keeping cells balanced etc.

        The actual Lifepo4 cells themselves can handle massive discharge rates otherwise.

        • +2

          This is correct. It all comes down to what the BMS and the wiring at the end of the day. LFP can be scaled to massive system.

        • +1

          Concurring evidence: LiFePo4 based jump starters exist

    • Anemic BMS

    • +2

      You're comparing lithium to AGM.

      This is a good price for what you get.

      • +1

        Ah yes, my bad. Clicked on the wrong part of the menu.

        Still plenty of options on 4WD Supa Centre that I think would be better quality than what Jaycar has at times.

        • +6

          4wd super centre sell cheap Knock off shit like king's, quality shouldn't be associated with that store IMO

          • -1

            @Bertus: Nothing wrong with Kings stuff, I've got plenty of their stuff and happy with it. Maybe read this comment.

        • Given how Jaycar and Kings source their batteries, there is a very good chance they are from the same manufacturer.

    • Completely different type of battery AGM vs Li-Po

      • +1

        LiPo is also different to LiFePO4!
        Both of which are Li-Ion technologies.

  • +13

    The Kings 120Ah LiFePO4 Lithium battery can be found on sale for about the same price from time to time, and I'd trust it's quality over this one.

    In fact, today's deal has the battery plus a torch for $50 more than this. https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/batteries/120ah-lithium/120…

    • +7

      You can use the camels to see what King's prices usually are. https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0B5KYZXRF

      • +1

        Oh nice, that's a cool website. Thanks!

    • +2

      Some diamonds in the rough at 4WD Supacentre, this appears to be one of them, I'd also go this way.

    • +5

      And for a start…..The Adventure Kings 120Ah lithium battery is rated to output a continuous 120 Amps. Only 50amps for the Jaycar one. This is a MAJOR difference.

      • Good eye.
        Unless that includes INPUT from a DC-DC as well, I don't think most people will hit 50A draw from this small of a battery. Caravans probably would, but they generally go for the bigger batteries anyway.
        Could happen tho. Thinking of my own setup, Starlink, plus fridge, plus some lights, never know. Would be a pain if it ever did become a problem and B<S just kept shutting the battery off.

        • +1

          Dual stroke air compressor can draw ~80A for 2-3mins

          • @mdcsooty: Normally run mine straight from the car battery, so had not thought of that.

        • I won't call a 100Ah battery small though. A good quality traditional 100Ah AGM battery weighs 20~30kg, which is the most reasonable form factor in my opinion. 200Ah ones are excessively difficult to maneuver and I'd rather put some 100Ah in parallel if that capacity is needed.

      • Yes! Makes a big difference if you ever want to hook it up to an inverter and run an induction cooktop or microwave.

    • Lol good deal but it's so random, why would they pair these 2 irrelevant items, the torch neither runs on the 12v battery nor can be charged with it.

      • Yeah I know, lol. Sometimes its just interesting to browse around and see what the algorithm came up with!
        With how many people I reckon are seeing this deal, then going to 4WDSC and comparing it to their batteries, I'd bet that in a day or two all their big lithium batteries will go on sale as well.

        The algorithm will provide.

    • +2

      Kings has a discharge current of 120A, while the Jaycar one only does 50A. That's a huge difference if you got an inverter.

    • Use code 'WELCOME10' for and extra $10 off too ;)

  • +3

    The Kings has been reviewed well too and if you don't need bricks and mortar for warranty, the Voltax 100 AH can be had

    currently on ebay(plus) for $337 delivered with discount code oct17 from decent seller. Well regarded and reviewed for

    a cheaper priced lithium battery with real capacity and 100AH discharge current.

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/295814476556?epid=3039288720&has…

    • if you don't need bricks and mortar for warranty

      But you kinda do for something that heavy. I wouldn't want to ship this back via Auspost :(

      • Maybe for some. If you install, use and maintane these properly, they are very reliable. My 120 AH Atem Power bought online 3 years ago been going strong for 2 1/2 in van running a 45 Lt Campmadter fridge (bought through OzBargain for $249 3+ year ago) most of that time 24/7. Battery getting charged via 120W solar and 25 Amp Redarch DC/DC Charger but can get decent for much less. Also have a Renogy shunt power controller to set alarms and get real time/wh charging and remaining.

      • Lithium batteries 100aH are not too heavy .. mine isn't anyway even in a battery box with DCDC charger.

    • +4

      Kings is notoriously crappy with their warranty, I know more than a couple people that have waited several months for warranty to be honored. Their products are mostly wholesale with a sticker slapped on, not necessarily a bad thing but the warranty screw around was/is enough to keep me away from their products.

      • Sure, but if on tight budget not such a big risk if testing as soon as you get it and working 100%. See my comment above. Would much prefer a cheap well reviewed lithium over AGM any day.

        • I think the risk is the same regardless, the risk is buying a kings product and potentially having to deal with warranty, even if you test it as soon as you arrive, if it comes up as a dud you still have to return it. I am pretty sure 4WD supa centres accept Kings product returns, but YMMV if buying from ebay. The whole issue is the potential of having to deal with a long and tedious warranty process.

          That being said you could buy one and never have an issue and I guess thats why they haven't completely tanked, as long as QC is good enough to minimise returns then it would only be a small % of customers that get to realise how badly the warranty sector under performs.

          • @doobey1231: Fair enough. Did not realise their warranty and returns was that bad. Even if you purchase in store, get home testing as a fail and returning to same store same day? Thought the ACCC has rules for that.

            • +1

              @ozhunter68: No idea about specific scenarios, I assume they hide behind the fact they would need to do their own testing to confirm rather than just trusting the customer, but that could even come down to the individual you speak with. I have had varying stories but the ones that stand out the most are the ones that start with "I returned my (battery, awning, fridge etc) a few months ago and have still not heard anything from the warranty team, does anyone know how long it takes" and then a whole mound of replies confirming the same experience and plenty of expletives lol. I know squeakiest wheel gets the grease so people are loud when they want to complain, but there are some pages(4wd supa centre reviews is one) where its 80% complaints about warranty returns.

              • +1

                @doobey1231: I have had both experiences. One item took 8 months to be replaced, another (more expensive) was replaced over the counter the week after I purchased it. Both failed within a week.

                It can be very hit and miss, really depends on the store and the product.

                • +1

                  @porterble: Yeah exactly, its just such a common story I always mention it when Kings is mentioned, some people are super happy with their kit and others have issues, its enough hit and miss that its worth making potential buyers aware.

              • @doobey1231: Now that you mention it, was looking at their 75 Lt dual zone fridge freezer at the Coffs 4wd Supa store and the guy working there said if anything goes wrong they run it in-store for 2 weeks for testing, which kind of sounded fair enough unless not working straight up. Bit risky then, but sometimes a good deal one must make concessions, up to each one to make mind up I guess.

  • +2

    Lifepo4 from outbax and others on ebay commonly go for under $300/280. Similar max discharge but suspect better actual Ah.

  • +1

    Could be old LiFePO4 technology as the continuous current of 50A is low.

    • +2

      Its the Battery Management system that all loads pass through, it stops the Lifepo4 cells from under charging or overcharging/keeping cells balanced etc.
      The actual Lifepo4 cells themselves can handle massive discharge rates otherwise.

  • +6

    Okay there is a bit of an issue with your statement "but generally Jaycar is better than eBay IMO.".

    Its a bit nick picky but Ebay is just a marketplace, the legitimacy and reliability of the products on there boil down to the user selling the product and the product itself, ebay is just an intermediary between buyer and seller. Buying on ebay does not make the product any better or worse. Jaycar on the other hand, don't manufacture batteries, they just go to a wholesaler and negotiate a price for a product that they can then slap their brand sticker on it(powertech) which they can sell in retail stores - very common practice these days - think Kmart and anko, bunnings and click/saxon/matador etc.

    But to summerise, buying from either does not guarantee a quality product, you need to research the product itself to ensure it is a good quality product. They will do their best to muddy up the paper trail but digging with part/sku/model numbers usually ends up giving you a result of who actually made the battery and whether they are known to be a good manufacturer.

    All in all, its a decent price for those specs, 36 months warranty is about what you'd expect from a reputable battery brand.

    • Jaycar don't just buy stuff and slap a sticker on it. They test the products to ensure they are up to their standards. That's the difference between a trustworthy retailer and a not so trustworthy retailer. I was reading about their shunts and the efforts they went to to get a decent shunt for sale. For a period of time they didn't sell them because they couldn't find one that was up to their standards. I've had faulty products from Jaycar but I've never seen them sell rubbish.

      • +2

        The point wasn’t to discredit jaycar, it was to tell OP that the idea of jaycar being better than eBay doesn’t make much sense and won’t help them purchase a better product.

        I’m not going to go out of my way and explain the process of finding a wholesaler/product, it’s not really relevant.

        Besides all that, I wouldn’t call jaycar shady but they’re far from pristine with their dealings in the past. Buyer beware still holds true imo.

  • +1

    I was trying to find the cycles this battery can do, I found this information

    Service Life: 10yrs+
    Cycle Life: 1500+ cycles (> 80% capacity retention)
    Nominal Voltage: 12.8V
    Cut-Off Voltage: 10V approx.
    Charge Type: Constant Current / Constant Voltage
    Discharge Current 50A
    Max Continuous Current ≤100A (5 sec)
    Internal Cells: Prismatic LiFePO4
    Maximum Internal Resistance: 35M?
    Output Terminals: M8 Bolt Down
    Operating Temperature: 0-45°C (60°C max discharging)
    Operating Humidity: RH < 85%
    Storage Temperature: 0-40°C (15-25°C recommended)
    Storage Humidity: RH < 50%

    https://housetradesupplies.com.au/powertech-deep-cycle-batte…

    • For the money that's ok, but the Voltax above is pretty much the same thing and cheaper. The 50 Amps limit on discharge means only 600 watts through an inverter for running 240 volt stuff. That's fine for chargers, a TV (if you want to run a mains one), maybe E-bike charger. A lot of people think you can run hair dryers and microwaves from them (not from something like that).

      I'm just buying stuff to make a beefier DIY one for a motorhome. Looks like being about $1500-1600 for the basic components, plus a bit more for tools. 304Ah that can do 250 Amps. I should be able to run anything you could plug into a standard powerpoint. That's what you need to be able to run things like air fryer, hair dryer (I wish), microwave. You could possibly do them on half the specs I'm going for, but what the he**

  • +3

    Maybe the Eastern Golf Club in the Yarra Valley (Vic) could get a bulk discount to replace the 40 they lost when their clubhouse burnt down a couple of days ago.
    Then again maybe not as the fire was started by a lithium battery that was being recharged in one of their golf carts.

    • +3

      Were they LiFePO or Li-ion? LiFePO is pretty safe as far as batteries go, Li-ion is the one that usually busts a nut while charging/overheating/getting punctured.

      • +2

        Li-Ion is the umbrella term for any battery chemistry that uses Lithium.

        You're thinking of LiPo.

  • +1

    Could i extend the driving range of the EV, by connecting a few of these batteries?

    • +3

      If you have to ask, you don't need the answer.

    • Bluetti do 2Kw portable for 2.3k on Aus store, get you what another 10KM?
      Sadly prices haven't really gone down compared to USA. jackery still costs the same as 4 years ago here.

    • EV's typically use 350-400 volts for the battery so you would not be able to connect a 12v battery. Also a 100ah battery would only give you just over 1 KWH and most EV batteries would be a minimum of 50 KWH so even if you could connect it it would hardly be worthwhile.

  • -2

    Can't you get spare batteries like these a lot cheaper?
    Don't get why it costs more than a car battery

    • +6

      cmon mick read the comments

    • +3

      Because its not a car battery, its a different product - a deep cycle battery is made for long consistent power draw, a car battery is made for a short high output(starting the car). There are a lot of Youtube videos that explain the differences between the two.

  • Perfect for my next visit to the beach

  • +2

    No good for inverter loads over 600 watts

  • https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/806488

    Can it be used with this. Thinking about a car fridge

    • Yes, and will run for a few days on one charge depending on the ambient temp and how cold you run the fridge/freezer

  • With Ebay plus discount codes you can get a 100 amp hour Renogy Lifepo4 for similar money $439.89 with 5 year warranty.

    • +1

      Read the fine print on the 5yr warranty, not quite as good as the headline suggests. But I still think Renogy is one of, if not the best value when it comes to lithium batteries.

      • +1

        Oh wow, they made it hard to find, but yes you're right.

        Prorated warranty - as owning one for over 12 months you'll have to pay for the replacement, depending on how long you've had the old one. In times of falling prices for LFP batteries, it might turn out cheaper after 2 or 3 years to just buy new instead of claiming warranty.

  • Anyone know if you can parallel for 48V?

    • Series maybe.
      Multiple batteries in parallel does not does not increase voltage if I remember correctly.

      The datasheet doesn't say you can't put them in series or parallel:

      • Do not short terminals or reverse polarity
      • Do not disassemble or modify battery
      • Keep battery out of reach of children
      • Do not expose to temperatures over 60ºC
      • Not suitable for vehicle starting applications
      Charge battery every 6 months or when voltage
      drops below 12.8V.

    • Limited to 2 batts only in packs, and you will need to charge them individually, not just via the pack output.

  • I bought a cheap yum cha 120ah battery on ebay for $320 approx 2 years ago and its been brilliant.

    • Over 12 months ago I too bought one of the el cheapo yellow and black eBay ones, (100ah) and with the eBay Afterpay code at the time it was $255 delivered. It has worked flawlessly also, and the capacity is around 103 to 104ah every time I charge it up with a little 5 amp Victron charger.

  • I recently purchased a 120ah for just over $600 from a company in Perth that has been around for quite a while and has a solid reputation. The 120ah also has a 100amp continuous discharge and built in BMS and bluetooth monitoring. https://www.ev-power.com.au/product/bat-evh12v120ah/

    • This a proper setup with likely lifespan 7-10 yrs if looked after. Ie don't sit beyond 14V for long periods of time. And allow to balance if deltaV increases.

  • I just bought a couple of 200Ah Kings (prismatic) plus 12m of cable etc for $1330 delivered.. Jaycar is overpriced and unknown, I'd give a miss.

  • Worth noting that the website says 50amps continuous discharge, but it says 100a on the product. I can confirm they are 100a continuous discharge

  • +2

    RTM have the 120ah version for $499 currently also.

    The 120ah version has 100A continuous current and 150A peak current (website) 200A peak current (labelled on battery itself).

    I found it to be worth the extra $100 over the 100ah version for the slightly extra capacity but mainly the additional discharge current.

    • Yeah, in the long run this would probably be the better buy out of these two RTM batteries, in my humble opinion that no one asked for!

      • which this? and why is it a better buy? i am thinking to buy one for 50L fridge MonkeyBrass

    • Have a look at the data sheet they link. Couldn't be a more generic no-name China product.

  • Need to have a monitoring system that can tell you the precise voltage of each of the 4 cells and an inbuilt balancing system otherwise lifespan is likely to be shortened especially with B grade cells. This is a well known fact in the off-grid community for LiFePo4

  • Is this safe? I only trust traditional lead acid battery.

    • LifePO4 are super safe. These are not the lithium batteries you hear about blowing up.

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