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Do these things need data leaks? I thought they essentially onsold all the data anyway
I've never done a DNA test. Who do they sell the data to? I know that people's data from 23andMe is available on the "darkweb" after the breach. Not sure about Ancestry though.
I believe they all supply the data to law enforcement worldwide these days… Not a big deal for law abiding citizens but it still doesn't sit well with me…
Health insurance companies collecting this data is a bit of a worry though…
@FLICKIT: Where's the proof of that specific to ancestry DNA… So much baseless scaremongering in this thread, it's ridiculous.
Data brokers - Theyre the worst and they operate out of sight of normies. Think dept collectors with information and power. Pretty much everyone has profiles on databrokers databased.
Big Parma, I think theyre also pretty bad. Researchers and essential anyone else willing to pay, including law enforcement and not just law enforcement from the country you reside.
Just dont
Don't on sell as such but all data does go into the data base in order to let people know who they share DNA with and how much. I've found it a fantastic facility and uncovered a few skeleton's in the closet. I don't worry about who they share my spittle with, they're welcome to it.
If you guys care about breach, go get it done in a medical environment. They atleast give a shit due to industry compliance.
Or better yet, just don't.
Bargains have prices
Would definately regift
That's how I got my test actually.
Too someone you're not related to.
Waste of money for Asians like me
Everyone's a cuzsin
I did one of the tests: it was like yes you are asian
Me: bruh
Lemme guess related to Genghis Khan too!!!:P
IIRC, this is based on Y-chromosome and there isn't really strong evidence for it.
Why can’t I grow a majestic warlord beard then huh - best I got is Pokemon generation 1 magickarp salesman
Yeah mine didn't reveal anything like that. I knew which countries my parents came from and the test said yeah they came from those countries. But it did show me loads of cousins, second cousins, and third cousins and their profile pics, so kinda nice to see what they all look like. We are a handsome bunch tbh.
Your results are back. You're a human.
Just make sure you don't commit crimes.
Otherwise the police basically have free access to your dna to match from the crime scene ;)
Don’t forget to stop all your relatives from doing a test as well.
I've put a family wide ban on dna tests. Thanks for the info.
lol, best of luck. It would have to be a pretty wide ban to be effective.
Don't do it. Stop giving you data away, or worse, paying for them to take it. When health insurance companies decide not cover you for heart conditions because they find out it's "in your family" the folks giving them the data will be the ones responsible.
Also, you may not like the potential bonus outcomes. Someone I know found out her father wasn't her father because her daughter did one of these. She was devastated.
But hey, cool Xmas present for $44 right?
And when they decide not cover you for xyz because it's a not-yet "pre-existing condition"? Seems ridiculous.
No it isn't. Fat people can avoid getting on planes, they can also avoid being fat.
Nice straw man attempt.
The fact that Blackstone bought ancestry for 4.7B should be enough of a red flag for anyone with a modicum of common sense to steer clear of these DNA tests.
You shouldn't really be calling them fat people, that's not really PC
You’re counting on them charging more to people ‘at risk’ and passing those savings on to those who aren’t? No chance.
Insurance companies do just fine as they operate now without pricing some poor bastard out because of something they were born with.
Health insurance companies in Australia are not legally permitted to reject individuals with pre-existing conditions. If that legislation is changed to allow those companies to block individuals with pre-existing conditions, they will absolutely be requiring these sort of tests to protect their profitability.
Also, you may not like the potential bonus outcomes. Someone I know found out her father wasn't her father because her daughter did one of these. She was devastated.
That's not necessarily bad. If the bond was not strong enough to survive that, then frankly there wasn't much of a bond in the first place.
To protect their profitability? They are already insanely profitable.
That's not necessarily bad. If the bond was not strong enough to survive that, then frankly there wasn't much of a bond in the first place.
In your opinion. It was bad, and both her parents has passed, which made it worse in my opinion.
The average profit margins of private health insurers is estimated to be around 5%, which isn't a particularly profitable industry. The scale of it makes it seem big in terms of raw dollar terms though.
both her parents has passed, which made it worse in my opinion.
Her parents made their choice not to make it known. If her learning about it this way was as devasting as you indicate, that's on them. If she had a healthy and strong relationship with her parents, she will still view them favorably.
@Tyrx: They might not have both chosen though? In this instance not much of a stretch to say the mum might have had an affair and the dad never knew. The daughter just ends up with question marks over the mum's integrity with little chance of finding the truth. Unless the real dad does the test too of course..
Health insurance companies in Australia are not legally permitted to reject individuals with pre-existing conditions
But life insurance companies can.
You also need to declare DNA tests when taking out a life insurance policy
$44???
Need to know if I’m a couple % aboriginal, will this tell me?
You can identify as one…
You can't though. Need an uncle to welcome you plus dna evidence
That’s not true, you definitely do not require DNA evidence. Just accepted by an aboriginal clan that your family is from. I have mates who have gone through this process and not once has a DNA test be required.
You need to prove ancestry if you plan on going all gibsmedat & getting access to indigenous specific jobs etc.
These days I believe the benchmark is > "If you identify as aboriginal and you're accepted by an aboriginal community, you're classed as aboriginal"…
And we all know the latter is often a case of negotiating a fee :-(
Or you have a TO partner..
They work, found loads of cousins through it, and filled out a previously mystery family tree. My sister did it too and came up with 50% match, so at least we know we have the same father and neither of us were adopted…
Just a different mum
Well no, our DNA match would be 25% match in that case.
Ditto - found a lost relative, solved a family mystery.
Lol Chritstmas gift. Merry Christmas, you’re adopted!
…..and you just put your real Dad in prison.
At least you now know where to find him!
Showing as $85 for me?
Ah yes, paying $85 for my DNA to be on the dark web in couple of months/years. What a bargain.
I am typical indian. Am i eligible?
Eligible?
If you're a typical Indian with 85 dollars, then yes.
whats everyones opinion on staying anon like fake name etc, what about the address tho? they need to send the spit bag to an address..
Aus Post Parcel Collect address?
is that an option on the site? this solves the anon name and address. but i read in the comments your dna could be sold to da five O database, so if you think you will commit a crime in the future and leave your sweat, skin, hair or jizz somewhere, they can find the match, but it will be under a fake name and address. for extra security use a VPN to order? what about credit card? oh shit thats the bottleneck.. do they take crypto
Eh. I don’t have my real name on my public profile, but my account does. Life is too short to worry about what someone might do with my dna. I don’t plan on murdering or raping anyone so I don’t care if everyone in the world had my dna if there was an Ancestry hack.
I rather not have my dna all over the internet, maybe if i use a virtual WIZE card, are those traceable?
I think this would be a decent attempt at staying anon.
turn on VPN, open incognito window
generate new card in wise app.
sign up with burner email, fake name and address, pay with digital wise card and use the fake name on payment too.
delete card after payment (make sure you get order confirmation)
pickup from post office,
spit in it and send it back.
If everyone used fake names it would be hard to make family trees.
Couple of points - these companies only get more accurate when they get more users.
The DNA they receive can be used for forensics, which is how many rapists etc were caught only 20-30 years after.
Whole genome sequencing can be done very cheaply nowadays (down to about $200), which is far more information than this - unfortunately most companies charge a fee on top of this to interpret the DNA (like for ancestral purposes)
link for 200 one?
175 dollars usd. where do you ship these, overseas?
@Roe Jogan: There are a few companies doing this. I think from memory, this company utilises a Hong Kong subsidiary for Asian pacific collection
In conclusion: don't rape?
Yes, that should be a given. Unfortunately criminals don’t always think carefully. It’s surprising how simple it is nowadays to track criminals with metadata, or GPS devices. Not to mention how many criminals who just blurt out their crimes to detectives.
same with online privacy, just dont do anything wrong ever and let every entity in the world track you and learn everything about you. Its only bad if your a criminal!
https://nebula.org/what-unique-about-your-genetics/
The basic one is 30X WGS - $99 with the cheapest quarterly sub ($50) is $150 USD, just above $200 AUD
i really wish people would stop selling the human genome down the river, and everyone elses privacy with it, just so they can say theyre a miniscule amount of some heritage
every time someone submits to this grift, theyre contributing to the monetisation of the human genome and potential medical cures
please for the love of god stop it, youre not that interesting
The savings on the test will help with the child support payments!
Being the cynic… In time health insurance companies will collect all this data and then they'll tailor your premiums (and your kids) to suit the ailments your DNA suggests you may be susceptible to…
"Oh, Joe Blogs has a heart attack marker in his DNA, double his premium" !
Mate they could literally do this right now, very effectively, without any of this DNA business… "Oh Jonny is 5ft 8, weights 145kgs and says his hobbies are gaming and Netflix… I wonder if he's a higher risk for medical issues 🤷♂️"… But they don't.
True… All the data that's being collected on us from rewards programs and the likes could build a pretty good profile, no doubt it's only a matter of time before it all comes back to bite us on the arse… I'm not a conspiracy nut or anything but common sense suggests this is likely in the future…
In Australia there is actually a memorandum until 2024 to not utilise genetic data for life insurance policies under $500k. Not that this is reassuring at all
In Australia private health insurance doesn’t change in price according to your age or medical conditions
Give it a decade and see what happens, lol … We're certainly heading the same way as the U.S., Medicare is being scaled back and private health insurance is slowly becoming unaffordable for a lot of people…
Damn, this thread stinks of idiocracy.
lol downvote.. move on gurl!
They sell your data to third parties.
Best to use GenomesDao.
If i identify myself as a cat, will my kids's DNA test come back as cats or humans?
Probably come back showing they're Grade A dumbasses just like their parent :)
Does AncstoryDNA testing give you the type of data you can parse (thru an app) to give Health information?
Yes
Do u have to pay for shipping ?
I signed up to Ancestry during the Covid period and it was certainly a unique experience.
I found out I had another half-brother and sister living in the same city alongside my non-existent father.
The DNA results are pretty cool, their formula updates every 12 months or so, so your results slightly change from time to time. They introduced gene traits which is fairly interesting, I haven't jumped on that boat yet.
It was always fun when people asked my DNA results and after briefly trying to explain the cauldron of ethnicities in my blood, I'd just pull out my phone and show the AncestryDNA graph.
To further sum this up, all this shit is for is either:
Or
Stop selling us all up the river….
Hopefully they have better data security than 23andMe.
One data breach I wasn't involved in luckily.