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China Southern: London Return from Melbourne $1161, Sydney $1184, Brisbane $1287 (2x 23kg Bags), March to June @ Google Flights

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China Southern with even more cheap flights - this time to London.
Most dates have a long stop in Guangzhou on the outbound leg, but you can take advantage of the free accommodation offered by China Southern.
2 x 23kg bags included, as well as food, etc.

Dates are March to June 2024.

I like to use the Google flights price grid to find dates, then you can use the booking links on the last page to book.

Brisbane to London $1287
melbourne to London $1161
Sydney to London $1184

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  • +5

    China Southern is by far the best airline amongst the Mainland Chinese carriers.

    However for as low as $500 extra PP return, you can fly on Qatar, Cathay or Emirates which will provide arguably the best economy product avail
    Qantas Frequent Flyers - Qatar, Emirates or Cathay Pacific
    Velocity - Qatar or Singapore

    • +7

      Cathay has gone downhill IMHO since COVID and HK as a transit hub is no longer as enticing than Qatar or Dubai especially with the unclearly defined anti-espionage and spy law that's now in place. Not that it matters to most/all of us.

      • +5

        Cathay is going south. Just like Hong Kong, anything CCP touches turns into 💩💩

        • Haha good to see my feelings/experience is validated by the industry. Sad too. I used to transit thru HK all the time with Cathay. I did not know they dropped in rating.

          I won't say if it's because of CCP, but there's just no appeal to me to go thru HK anymore, especially with the dodgy sounding law in place. I would much rather take a longer trip and transit thru KL, SG or TPE those cities feels more interesting to me.

        • +1

          You mean people don't want to visit a country that was ruined by protestors
          Here's how they treat women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_YW8SkYBs&ab_channel=Danie…

      • +1

        I flew with them back in October and Cathay were fine, got two full meals on each flight, Sydney to HKG and service aboard was also fine. Had no issues.

        • -1

          Getting 2 meals is a pretty low benchmark for 99% of passengers, but good service starts from the check-in counter for those that need it, eg. Travelling with pram, travelling with disabled passenger, going above and beyond to make your journey pleasant. Cathay cattle class is just like every other cattle class now. The cabin used to be clean and bright, maybe it's the decor… It just didn't feel special anymore.

          • +1

            @hippo2s: Qantas tend to give a full meal and then snack on similar routes, just saying Cathay did provide a little more.

            • +1

              @Pcoder: Haha point taken. Yes thanks for reminding me of the meat pie in a box for 'a meal' on Qantas.

              • @hippo2s: Wait. You guys got a meat pie in a box?

                • +1

                  @Serapis: four and twenty traveller pie specifically

          • @hippo2s: Qantas version of the meal is also a serving of main, a bread roll with no butter plus a separately served desert. As opposed to the old school airline meal with butter for bread as well as a salad.

        • Flew Cathay biz, service as abysmal.
          Even below Qantas with it's pensioners running around.

          • @TightAl: I know, right!? I felt the same altho I fly cattle. They really need a refresh.

    • +3

      When me and my wife looking at flight plan back in Oct / Nov one concern of flying Qatar or Emirates is the potential trouble with custom staff in middle east, especially we were traveling on different flight plan and my wife will was by herself.

      She end up flying Qantas via Singapore and I fly Asiana via Korea. Her flight is company paid for so no issue. I pay at least $500 - $700 more but with a much more enjoyable flight experience. Best of all knowing my money is not contributing to the CCP feels even better…..

      • +4

        Emirates is under the UAE. Qatar is under Qatar.

        Qatar is a far more conservative country than the UAE and its laws are based off Sharia law unlike the UAE which has a hybrid mix of civil laws and Sharia law.
        Dubai will have virtually zero issues for passengers transiting and the events of October 2020 in Doha have been rectified.

        Mrs and daughter transited through Doha a few weeks back and had no issues, staff were great according to them.

        • I know, its all about "just in case" and since I wasn't flying with her, safety comes first especially when her flight is company pay for.

          • +5

            @syswong:

            I know, its all about "just in case" and since I wasn't flying with her, safety comes first

            Don't be ridiculous - statistically your wife is far more likely to have a major traffic accident on the way to/from the airport than she is to encounter any issues transiting through Dubai.

            And I don't get this "since I wasn't flying with her" stuff - if she were to encounter any issues, what exactly would your presence change?

            • -1

              @p1 ama: Even i am flying with her, I wouldn't fly via middle east. Just in case.

              I am planning coming trip to Spain but we have to fly Madrid so can't fly Asiana. Most likely flying via Singapore and London. Fell much safer even it takes longer and cost a bit more.

              • -1

                @khepri: Plenty of Dubai (and middle east) fans will tell you these are isolate case and don't be ridiculous, like p1 ama's tone.

                For me I rather be safe than sorry. Just like not flying over Russian air space.

                • @syswong:

                  For me I rather be safe than sorry.

                  I don't really have a stake in the game - I'm just pointing out a logical fallacy that you're more concerned over a lower probability event in "something happening" in Dubai airport vs. a higher probability event in a traffic accident getting to the airport.

                  Ultimately, feel free to fly with whoever you like, I have my preferences as well. However, the difference is that I don't pretend to coat my preferences with some faux moral stance to make myself feel superior.

                  Emirates is the fourth largest airline in the world (and likely the largest if only considering international routes) (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_airlines_in_the_world), tens of millions of passengers fly with Emirates yearly. I presume you're the only intelligent one and the other tens of millions are idiots putting themselves in harm's way?

                  • -1

                    @p1 ama: When it come to my wife, I will not put her in any harms way. One in a million chance of it happening is a good enough reason for her to not to take that route. What is interesting is when we discuss this, she also agree is not safe for a lady travel alone transit in middle east. While we are on the topic, I have collages who spend significant time in the place. The guys thimk it is a perfectly safe place while the girls will say they will never go out at night by herself and will never leave the CBD area. So go figure. Guess mid eastern countries has a long way to go on their image of how the treat woman.

                    May be you are from middle east and feel the need to stand up for the place, just like how many said I BS when I comment about the kidnaping issue in ASEAN countries. Both issues are not isolated incident and these kind of stuff scare you for life if it happen to you. The attitude in this forum on these issues are shocking…..

                    • +2

                      @syswong:

                      When it come to my wife, I will not put her in any harms way. One in a million chance of it happening is a good enough reason for her to not to take that route.

                      So I presume she doesn't drivre, because there's definitely a higher than 1 in 1,000,000 chance that she will die in a traffic accident?

                      May be you are from middle east and feel the need to stand up for the place, just like how many said I BS when I comment about the kidnaping issue in ASEAN countries.

                      I'm not from the ME, and I'm not "standing up for the place". I'm simply for rationality.

                      I also strongly dislike people who fake moral stances. You say you're not going to use a Chinese airline to not support China, whilst I'm sure you're typing that on a computer with components made in China, wearing clothes made in China. Well done ;)

                      • @p1 ama:

                        So I presume she doesn't drivre,

                        Spot on

                        I also strongly dislike people who fake moral stances. You say you're not going to use a Chinese airline to not support China, whilst I'm sure you're typing that on a computer with components made in China, wearing clothes made in China. Well done ;)

                        I am happy with CCP until they step out of their place. I am happy how they F themselves up now. Whenever I have a choice, I try not to buy stuff that is contribute to the CCP. From spending money on more expensive flights to as little as nor buying China brand drinks. If you have access to my FB you will see that it is far from fake.

                        I also strongly dislike people stand for dictatorship cruel government who banks on corruption and inhuman actions when they themselves are living in Western democracy and enjoying all freedom and bebefit from the system. You can keep going Blah Blah Blah but if anyone is fake, that you go! Go x yourself before coming here and accusing me being fake!!

                        • +1

                          @syswong:

                          Spot on

                          Ah, so women shouldn't drive. Where have I heard that one before? Yes, you share the same values as the Middle East!

                          You can't make this stuff up!

                          Whenever I have a choice, I try not to buy stuff that is contribute to the CCP. From spending money on more expensive flights to as little as nor buying China brand drinks. If you have access to my FB you will see that it is far from fake.

                          It's fake because your actions have no impact aside from making yourself feel better. I'm sure the CCP really cares that syswong on OzBargain doesn't buy some of their shit.

                          I also strongly dislike people stand for dictatorship cruel government who banks on corruption and inhuman actions when they themselves are living in Western democracy and enjoying all freedom and bebefit from the system.

                          I don't stand "for" dictatorships. The world has plenty of evil dictatorships. However, my view is that the moral arc of the universe bends towards justice, and in time, most countries will democratise and liberalise. It's, ultimately, none of my business how China chooses to run their country. As a relatively small country ourselves, it's better to make peace and find mutually beneficial opportunities for trade.

                          • @p1 ama:

                            Ah, so women shouldn't drive. Where have I heard that one before? Yes, you share the same values as the Middle East!

                            Just like many here, you are only interested to argue but not finding out the fact, she don't drive because she don't have to. I never said women shouldn't drive.

                            It's fake because your actions have no impact aside from making yourself feel better.

                            Most people think like you that how we end up with thugs like Xi Jinping (actually he is good, CCP may just end in his hands!). You can't make an impact doesn't mean you can't take a stand!!

                            It's, ultimately, none of my business how China chooses to run their country. As a relatively small country ourselves, it's better to make peace and find mutually beneficial opportunities for trade.

                            You are free to think the way you want but I despite Australians who think like this.We are a much stronger country than we think and can have way more influence if we harvest our advantage. "make peace and find mutually beneficial opportunities for trade." aka $$$ and we will turn a blind eye!! That is the pathetic way many wants to take, not me!!

                            • +1

                              @syswong:

                              You are free to think the way you want but I despite Australians who think like this.We are a much stronger country than we think and can have way more influence if we harvest our advantage. "make peace and find mutually beneficial opportunities for trade." aka $$$ and we will turn a blind eye!! That is the pathetic way many wants to take, not me!!

                              What's your end goal though? Do you feel so strongly about every single dictatorship around the world? What other countries do you think we should also pick a fight with aside from China? Is it our role to get involved in the politics of every country around the world we don't agree with?

                              You sound pretty naive my friend. You can talk a big game all you want, but conflict only leads to war and suffering. Are you willing to pick up arms to go and fight the CCP? It's easy to talk shit when you're not in a position to lose anything.

                              I've lived through a war, and personally have family who have died in conflicts. Sometimes we have to make peace with people we don't agree with so that we do not end up in terrible conflicts. Don't be crazy.

                              • @p1 ama: Again you assume I support war and conflict.

                                I believe we should pick a fight with injustice and harvest our power to increase our influence in these matter. It doesn't always mean we have to go to war.

                                You keep going on about goal, if everyone minimise their made in China consumption, minimise their oil consumption (from middle east)…..we can make a difference. That is another way of fighting.

                        • @syswong: Just anther CCP hater spreading rumor here. Every OZbargain post related to CHINA attracts flies like you

                    • +1

                      @syswong: Better not take her to HongKong then.
                      You know, you wouldn't want to put her harms way :)
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_YW8SkYBs&ab_channel=Danie…

                      • @TightAl: We are not going to Hong Kong (Nor China), why would I want to?

                        https://nextshark.com/chan-yin-lam-conspiracy-theories-hong-…

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhrZH2PLY6c&pp=ygUnaG9uZyBrb…

                        You want to start a forum fright about 2019 in HK, I am all up for thugs like you!!

                        • +1

                          @syswong: Thanks for two useless links,
                          1: some rumour/conspiracy great.
                          2: some edited video with no harmful violence

                          Glad you support the real beating of women by the thugs that are protestors LOL and some how diminishing it by comparing it to some lady being arrested. Congratulations. You are a thug just like the rest of them.

                          • @TightAl: Great mentality of yours, "I know everything and you know jack shit" "All my stuff is true and all others are fake."

                            My last reply to U, if you have the guts to walk the walk and talk the talk, come to one of our Hongkees meetings and say all these shit again!! Love to see what will happen to that laughing ass of yours!!

                            • @syswong: You've literally avoided everything. You deflect when there's evidence.
                              Send me detials of this meeting, I'd love to hear your stand up in person.

      • +2

        I wouldn't be too concerned being northern Africa/southern middle east, the culture is respectful of female as long as the ladies don't over-expose themselves, just wear long sleeves, put on a smile it's fine.

        Incheon would have been cool, I have not been myself but I hear good things.

        TBH the money doesn't goto CCP…it goes to 'the company' which when it gets big enough…gets governmentised…(if that's the word).

        • My point is CCP dont gets my money, I am happy.

          • @syswong: Haha and you are being down-voted for speaking your mind. I tried to upvote you but I only get 1 vote.

      • Travelling via Dubai or Abu Dhabi is perfectly safe. Don't know about Doha, but lots of raucous European football fans travelled there for the World Cup last year, so it should be ok for a couple of Australians.
        Personally I would have more travel angst here in Australia travelling from my home to the airport without incident, and getting on a plane that leaves on time than anything else.

    • But those airlines don’t offer 2 x 23kg checked luggage.

    • +2

      Honestly after flying China Southern about 4 times, I’d say it was the best airline i have flown on (Ive been on singapore, etihad, emirates, qantas etc). Service was amazing, clean planes with actually good food.

      • Lmao people downvoted you because they saw you write ChiNA.
        Sad.

  • Has anyone flown CS recently? Curious how people are finding it atm… any covid rules still?

    • +3

      A family friend flew to GZ for business. Covid rules more or less dropped and not in place anymore.

    • Flew with them recently. I was pleasantly surprised

    • Flew with them to Thailand recently, they were excellent!

    • I heard China quarantine randomly select international arrivals to conduct COVID test at airport. Please correct me if I am wrong.

      • +1

        I’m travelling around China at the moment. Haven’t experienced it. No mention of Covid here anymore, most people not wearing masks. Everything back to normal

    • I flown recently from Sydney and it was great, the plane was a Dreamliner both ways. Return flight was super empty so the flight attendants let me move to an empty row. Flight attendants were lovely and attentive.

      Only downside was a daytime flight to GZ which was hard to sleep in

  • +3

    Great to see prices start to return to a reasonable level.

  • That's how you save money for the customers by flying over Russia! Great work comrades

    • +4

      russia and china are pals and wont be shooting down their planes anytime soon if they want chinas continued support

    • +2

      Does PRC own airlines fly through Russian air space😨😨

      Edit: Answer my own question, yes they do, that CS flight from Guangzhou Baiyun International to London Heathrow spend quite a bit of time in Russia air space. Another reason not to fly them…..

      • Everyone whinging about Chyyyyna and the CCP, but the real concern for me would be this flight path. I'm sure the Russian plebs on the ground would be cautious about shooting down planes post the Malaysia Airlines incident, but I ain't leaving that chance in their hands.

        • -2

          BS. It is all safe. I'd say I be more worried to fly over middle east now. All Chinese, Indian and middle east, Egypt Airlines are using Russian airspace saving fuel and passing savings to passengers by reducing tickets costs. Good luck flying Qatar or Emirates and paying twice and flying 1.5 times longer.

          • -1

            @Michael1983: Check out flight track of OZ 521. I flew that route to London and imo a very safe flight path.

            If you can't effort a ticket and banks on an airlines that take shortcuts to save money and give you cheap ticket price, maybe you should not fly at all. Just like travel insurance.

            • -1

              @syswong: I bet you continue flying around Russia even after the open sky agreement will be restored. Good luck. My effort would rather be spend on a new car and another investment property ")

              • -1

                @Michael1983:

                the open sky agreement will be restored

                YOU CAN"T BE SERIOUS?? Its 2024, you are living in lala land mate.

                Its good for you though, one SAMs misfire and happen to be your plane than you won't have to worry about cars or properties anymore.💪💪

  • Do you need a visa (A$ 95/passenger) to utilize the accommodation?

  • +5

    Does Perth ever get anything? apart from wind.

    • Poor Perth has nothing on flight special

      No direct flight to Hong Kong by Qantas (cancelled years ago)
      No direct flight to GuangZhou by China Southern (cancelled before Covid)

    • +1

      I know, poor Perth! I am looking though. I used to see cheap fares from Perth to Europe on Thai, Malaysia, Etihad, Qatar and China Southern. China Southern havent returned to Perth yet. But I am sure its coming

    • Yes, just add a domestic flight to Mel/Syd. :p

      • domestic flight costs more than the international flight

        • Yeah! I know! Tis the reason I have never visited Perth…yet! To be fair it is quite far away from each side of the country.

    • Yup, we get the higher prices.

  • Any deals for July in the foreseeable future?

    • July and August are always gonna be more expensive, just cause its peak season. You might be able to get some value leaving late June

      • -1

        I need you to get me to Germany for the European Football Championship in late June please. I know it’ll be more expensive but I’m going for a time specific reason so it is what it is.

        • +1

          Where from? For how long? What are you dates?

          • @CheapFlightHunter: Those are fair questions. I need to get to Gelsenkirchen for the 30th June. Happy to fly anywhere nearby and am even happy to get there a couple of days earlier if cheaper. I need to fly back anytime after the 14th July from Berlin. Happy to leave as late as the 19th as I am back at work on 22nd.

            I live in Sydney.

            • +1

              @kiriakoz: Gonna be hard to get a good deal for that time, as its really getting into peak season. The best I'm seeing right now is Sydney - Frankfurt on Singapore Airlines, leaving June 26 / returning July 16 for $2147.

              If you could leave a fair bit earlier, like June 21, returning July 16, still flying into Frankurt, it comes down to $1766 on China Southern. Nearby airports were much of a muchness, London is slightly cheaper but then you have to factor in another flight to get to Germany.

              It's possible better deals might come up between now and then - I'd set an alert for your dates in google Flights and monitor for a bit.

              • @CheapFlightHunter: Thank you for sharing your valuable insights. I will see if I can get a bit more leave and leave on the earlier flight and keep an eye out for better deals. I’m pretty much resigned to paying top dollar for these flights so anything less than that is a bonus.

                Thanks again.

      • Cheers mate, appreciate the honesty. Didn't realise those were peak seasons :(

  • -1

    China Southern is so expensive these days. Not sure what happened to them in the last few years.

    • +2

      I dont know if this is a serious comment or not

      • Im serious, look at the prices to China then compare. Weird you don't see the pattern considering what you are.

        But what do I care.

        • +1

          It was more about the part that said 'Not sure what happened to them in the last few years." The same thing that happened to all airlines, and the worldwide flight industry—COVID!

          • @CheapFlightHunter: It's not a Covid thing because only China Southern seem to be consistantly higher priced by a fair margin compared to other Chinese carriers. It doesn't matter if you select Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Hainan, Shanghai etc they are always $400-$600 more expensive.

            I've basically tried them all now and thegy all have their own weird quirks so I wouldn't consider it worth anything premium.

    • It's call breaking into a new market. You price lower to attract passengers, build a reputation then up the price.

      Fuel prices, airport leasing, servicing and labour fees all have something to do with it.

      But I think the improvement in the quality of experience allows them to up the price a bit more.

  • Very good price and very good airlines.

    Fact: CSA is the best mainland china airlines

  • -3

    Singapore Airlines is offering returns for about $1600-1700 from Sydney in June which is much better than this deal.

    • +4

      These also work in June. How is $1600 better than $1184?
      And, the only SQ flights from Sydney to London Im seeing in June are minimum $2100

      • Doesn't fly over Russia for one, or provide funds to the CCP.

        https://imgur.com/a/pEzIlvB

        • +9

          I'm just here to share the deals, not get into political discussions. However, Singapore could also be considered a repressive regime.

        • -1

          It take one SAM mistake then all these people who only think with their wallet will jump on the "no fly over Russia" camp.

          There is also those talk the talk but not walk the walk.

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