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A good deal on the 8 Bay Synology DS1821+. A successor is forever being rumored but has so far never eventuated. Add a 10GB card to this and some extra Ram and you are good to go for a while.
Very happy with mine.
Synology DiskStation DS1821+ (8 Bay NAS) $1549 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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The RRP was risen not to long ago I believe and this is the cheapest deal I have seen for a while. I picked mine up for $1449 back in Jan.
$1449 a great price. Still hanging out in the hopeful chance there's a juicy sale.
It was $1299 last year from Computer Alliance using eBay code.
DIY Build your 8 bay nas works out lot cheaper built quite a few of these for customers
https://nascompares.com/guide/recommended-jonsbo-n3-nas-buil…
Can you give an example build that works out a lot cheaper?
$1549 for a 8x 3.5" bay nas with 2x m.2 seems pretty hard to beat.
why ? just get a large case (like this for $144 https://www.umart.com.au/product/antec-p101-silent-mid-tower…) and add more SATA ports through a PCIe card if MB doesn't have enough. Most MB got 2 * M.2 anyway or just use a PCIe card for more.
For $1549, you can build a PC with 14900K lol
Sure, just getting a case is one thing - it's the whole rest of the configuration that I can't see how to get for a lot cheaper, but I'm not up on the latest configurations.
You said you've built quite a lot of these for customers, so I was wondering if you had an example parts list that comes in a lot cheaper than $1500.
I tried speccing something out on PCPartPicker and was only really able to come in around the same price once you factor in the cost of shipping the items.
You said you've built quite a lot of these for customers
I never said this, I am just a home user.
DS1821+ has 8-Bay 3.5" Diskless 4xGbE NAS (Tower) with AMD Ryzen Quad Core 2.2GHz + 4GB RAM according to spec.
CPU AMD Ryzen V1500B Quad-Core 2.2GHz = Multicore 5417 Single Thread Rating: 1286
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+Embedded+…So, Looks like bit better than i5-6500T and much worse than i5-9500T (OzB favourite in used market)
One way to do this is below for around $ 300
Note: Need to do bit of research on maximizing speeds and compatibility, this this just an example.- Get SFF version of a used system like this with 6500T < $100, already comes with CPU RAM and got 4 SATA port etc: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/839096
- Transplant everything to big case $144 : https://www.umart.com.au/product/antec-p101-silent-mid-tower…
- Get a PCIe SATA card from AliExpress $30-40 depending on additional SATA : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003760757628.html
- Get 2.5GBe card from AliExpress $14 : https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/837707
- Get PCIe to M.2 card from Aliexpress $20 : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005459508004.html
Other one would be getting a new system with CPU like 5500G or some thing like at, cheap AM4 mother board, DDR4 RAM
should be around $400 or so for CPU+MB+RAM+PSU instead of using second hand PC. Would have much better performance for running few virtual servers as well. Get a PCIe SATA card for extra SATA portsUnless you are going to run RAID 5,6 for higher speed and just need NAS for back up, 2 bays with large disks at RAID 1 would be better in my opinion.
Personally I use below SFF PC as NAS:
HP 600 G1 : $85
20GB RAM : can't remember how I ended up with this number, some came with PC and I added more
2.5GBe card from AliExpress : $14
3.5" Seagate X16 16TB from EastDigital : $310
2.5" 2TB drive from old pc : free
120GB SSD for OS : $30
OS : Win10 PRO with FFS
which OS do you use in these?
Truenas will work perfectly fine.
yeah not really sure why you would buy a commercial nas UNLESS you have limited technical knowledge or cant be bothered to mess with truenas, unraid, omv, xpenology, etc..
I guess some people don't want to risk setting things up wrong and losing the data they intended to protect.
Very little chance of stuffing it up i have numerous synology and thecus nas but the diy are easy to build easy to setup n secure as hell never lost any data ever with true nas (its actually running on my synology nas,s now)
Simple setup, same reason why people just buy an iphone. Learning all this knowledge just sucks, researching unnecessary information for a nas system is going to down a rabbit hole to save some big bucks. What matters to them is easy to use, plenty of functions and keeps their data safe.
excatly! thats why i couldnt be bothered with a android phone i just want plug and play.
Yeah the touch screens on Android phone is very flat, super complicated.
As others have said. Simple setup - just works. Plus I think they would be generally be lower power consumption as well over a DIY build?
Rarely see the larger number of drive models have sale prices - well at least when I look. Tempting to get as a replacement for my DS1812+ which is still happily chugging along…
Yeah…I deal with IT infrastructure in my professional life…I don't want to be stuffing about with building things at home if I can help it. Synology or QNAP FTW.
Still…even owning one of these is somewhat of an enthusiast's thing. I know of nobody amongst my (non-IT) family/friends who run a NAS of any kind at home, and even running something like this would be beyond many of them. External drives and standard cloud backups are about as complicated as it gets!
A while back, through youtube videos I was convinced that the only way to get a nas up and running was from the likes of Synology, Qnap, etc… I ended up buying a synology 923+ and boy was I disappointed. I ended up building a nas with my old computer and it litterally *hits on DS923+
More of this type of information needs to get out, building a NAS isn't complicated by the companies, review channels make it appear that it is and turnkey is the best.
Do people use these instead of cloud storage like iCloud and Google One? Is it easy to set up so it does auto back of photos and videos you take one your iPhone and Android? or is the experience not the same?
Yes, synology is quite easy, download the photos app on the nas and on the phone set it to back up during wifi/charging. I'd assume qnap would be similar. One important thing is to make sure your security settings are solid if you want to have the nas connected to the outside world, however it is not needed to be connected to the outside world for this purpose, there are many videos about what kind of security settings are needed if you choose to go that route.
unraid, truenas scale, are a little more complex to set up for this purpose but much cheaper to build your own nas
I use these, and I use Google One (Google Photos). I ended up buying a synology for moments/photos - but in reality its pretty crap. They've hardly moved the needle since they introduced it. Moreover, synology's market appears to be more for SME as opposed to home use.
Your best case is Immich which is a third party application and it has a mobile app that looks very much like Google Photos. Has really good machine learning capabilities, but depending on how many users you plan to serve you may soon realise that the hardware is not up to par. Hence custom build might be better to allow for better ML capabilities. There is one feature that I sorely miss which I believe they are working on - safely delete the photos after sync.
Overall, I think the Google Photos is so hard to beat - and the AI/ML capabilities still hasn't been matched by open source offerings like Immich (which imho is excellent).
Thank you for posting OP
but not a very good price, it could be had for $1299 (June 2023)That was then. This is now.
Which drive do you recommend?
Exos or Ironwolf… I use Exos.
Which model is your one? Could you send me the link please?
Exos X18 (I have a number of 18TB)
https://www.seagate.com/au/en/products/enterprise-drives/exo…Exos X20 (I have 18Tb, and one 20TB)
https://www.seagate.com/au/en/products/enterprise-drives/exo…
The Antec P101 is a basic 8-bay ATX case that is $160 delivered on Amazon. Very happy with mine.
Stick any basic components in and you've got a better, more flexible system for significantly less cost overall
Only good ideal for 2/4 bays Synology NAS, for my personal backup only?
Been hanging on the $1399 price Centrecom had it late last year. Been checking every day since.
Edit: Typo