Tesla Model Y also dropped its price on Model Y RWD and LR. Same price for Performance.
Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state).
Tesla Model Y: RWD $62,700 (Was $65,700), LR $71,700 (Was $74,700) + On-Road Costs @ Tesla
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BYD Dolphin Dynamic: $38,890
GWM Ora Standard Range: $39,990
MG 4 Excite 51: $39,990
MG ZS EV Excite: $41,990
BYD Atto 3 Standard Range: $48,011
BYD Seal Dynamic Standard Range: $49,888
which one is better value? I am in the market
which one is better value? I am in the market
Hyundai i30 $26,290
BYD Atto 3 is the next most popular car and is very good value for money.
@mike001: No. It stands for Build Your Dreams. But, from what I can tell, that branding didn't seem to be working in the West so they abbreviated it to BYD.
@tigerwolf: Wife has one. Pretty damn good. Esp considering they dont charge you for all the extras that tend to add thousands to the RRP of other vehicles (adaptive crusie, heated seats, etc).
@surg3on: Yeah my friend bought one (ATTO 3) after pulling out on a Tesla Model 3, due to delivery time. She has been raving about it and was what prompted me to look at purchasing an EV.
The MY23 Atto 3 is on special at the moment actually at $45990 Drive Away for the extended range in most states.
https://www.carsauce.com/car-news/byd-australia-initiates-at…
I'm seeing 54k drive away in victoria on the BYD website.
Demo models, not brand new
@42: People on forum have reported getting brand new vehicles at this price, others have received 'demo' cars that's done less than 100km
The article link says
"2024 BYD Atto 3 Extended Range: $47,990 (-$3,021)… All prices are before on-road costs."
Dont forget to add the cost of a home charging system.
Some people who own one never charge at home.
Or use the one that comes with the car
The average person doesn’t need one - if you’re doing low km, you can live off the wall charger included with the car.
@jessejackson: Tesla no longer include a charger with their cars. The one they used to bundle now costs $550
I dont know about other manufacturers, but BYD comes with a "granny charger" in the boot. It plugs in to a standard 10A GPO and provides a rate of around 1.5kw per hour.
We do a ~45k round trip to and from work in our BYD Seal and the "granny charger" keeps us at 100% easily - and that's limited by only charging during OVOs cheap+free periods (cheap midnight to 6am, free 11am to 2pm).
@theredkrawler: Model Y included the granny cable at launch, and swiftly removed it as an included accessory. I think every EV should come with at least that basic charger or what's the point? Charging infrastructure in Australia is nowhere near ready for folks to depend on public charging for their weekly driving needs.
Not sure why you're getting negged for this. Sure, not all folks buy a 7kw fast charger for their EV, but do note from the ordering page:
Home charging equipment is not included with your vehicle. To purchase separately, visit the Tesla Shop.So you definitely want to invest at least in the slower charging cable if you want to ever be able to charge at home.
You dont really NEEED a home charging system but it does make things nicer. Leaving the 240v charger that comes with the car running all night will add enough kms for most. Well, unless its a Tesla and they dont even give you the home charger! ($750)
@arcticmonkey: Standard range no. Long range yes. IF you have drained it to near zero which is unlikely.
I got a tesla wall charger installed, around $1200 total. I charge my MG4 at 8c kw between 12-6am. full charge is $4 for 330-360kms depending on aircon use.
Ora is currently $35990 and $34490 for ABN holders
A useful comment. Thanks JV.
Glad I could help.
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Many used Teslas are available under 50k, they should last you 200k easily and might be able to push the price down due to resale values.
https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/?q=(And.Make.Tesla..Price.range(..50000)..Year.range(2020..).)Many used Teslas are available under 50k
Not worth the risk with the batteries…
Yeah tesla need to up their warranty to 10 years imho on their battery… Current warranty is way too short
More like not worth the risk with an engine!
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-maintenance/the-cos…More like not worth the risk with an engine!
Engine in dad's HQ Kingswood is still going strong…
The battery lasts a long time after the warranty
Batteries on many of the first Teslas are failing.
@tigerwolf: I don't recall the details of the article, just know quite a few are beginning to fail now.
@jv: Yes, even though I like EC, I am too concerned about the battery life to buy now. Maybe I will wait for another 5 years.
Maybe I will wait for another 5 years.
By then, there'll be more cars available, better prices, better batteries and we'll have a better idea about the ongoing cost of keeping these vehicles.
Also should have a better idea about how the used batteries are going to be disposed without poisoning the environment.I'm waiting too…
@zhaomh: Don't be. The stats coming from Tesla are showing on average a battery degrades 4-6% over 160,000km and 8-10 years. Half of that degradation happens within the first 20,000km.
Trying to avoid buying 2nd hand mate for the hassle. We are checking BYD this weekend.
Trying to avoid buying 2nd hand mate for the hassle
Everyone is else is thinking the same way. So what do you think that will do for resale?
@1st-Amendment: New EV drive it into the ground. Otherwise, people selling used EVs for the most part want too much. Wgen used Teslas hit the market at realistic prices they still fast but most people want too much.
@1st-Amendment: Electric vehicles may become a disposable commodity(use and throw) in the future, requiring a decrease in prices for widespread adoption.
Electric vehicles may become a disposable commodity(use and throw) in the future
Sounds great for the environment!
@Yoo05: Probably because their components will outlast the usable life of the car. I wouldnt be surprised if in the near future there are companies looking to strip down and recycle these cars parts (battery mainly) for repurpose/reuse.
@SitarBoy: There absolutely will be. Not enough cars at end of life yet to make the practice viable but in 10-15 years time once the volume is there and there is money to be made, it will absolutely happen. Starting to emerge in the US now
When will the Cybertruck start selling in Australia?
Lol
Years of backorders for the US alone!
Not any time soon…..When will the Cybertruck start selling in Australia?
Never after what Albo said today about Musk…(1:49 into the audio)
Albo called Musk "arrogant, indecent, irresponsible and out of touch."
Is albo wrong on this one?
@mousie: He's projecting. Out of touch, arrogant and irresponsible applies to every Australian government in the past 20-30 years.
If you want a rust bucket there’s plenty of Falcons for sale still
When pigs fly - that thing won’t meet any of our safety criteria.
They've shipped less than 4000 total units, have just cut their workforce, and then recalled all 3800ish units they have sold, meanwhile there are apparently still tens of thousands of people on waitlists in the US alone.
So probably never.
Getting close to that budget. If you are in QLD there is still the government rebate which is another 3 or 6k off the lower models which brings it down more.
Personally im about to pull the trigger on a performance just susing out the last competitors this week.
I not even consider this it was under 40k. Only for showoff people who need attention. The whole tech behind it not even worth 30k. So overpriced. So dump.
M… another bathtub "deal"?
Very very good value
Still out of budget for missus car. 15k soon please.
Take AU $5.00 off this item with eBayplus
The Government, at least in Victoria should be providing a rebate still on EVs. How are you going to get an electric vehicle adoption rate if there is no incentives? Wow, $100 off my rego each year, hardly worth paying a high price tag for an EV.
Better than nothing compare to NSW
Is Vic still taxing EV buyers per Km?
NSW not yetThey scrapped the tax I think. I don't know of any additional tax for an EV at present in VIC?
Well NSW needs to get their s*** together too. QLD gives like a $6K rebate, SA gives like 3 years free rego.
Yeah the government needs to take money off someone else so I can have free/cheaper stuff!
Who is free rego taking money off?
The QLD rebate that OP mentioned is cash paid for by the taxpayer. So every $6k paid is $6k taken from the taxpayer to give to Tesla or BYD etc so that someone can buy themselves a new car.
For free rego, registration also pays for cost of roads etc. So every person that isn't contributing, that money needs to be taken from someone else to cover costs.
There's no free lunches here…
Why should the government pay you to buy an EV? Surely if the car (and its economics) are worth it, there doesnt need to be a tax payer funded incentive. At least the solar panels scheme actually helps the state/country as a whole (jobs, industry, less load on infrastructure etc).
This is true, but I think the issue is all the government subsidies of fossil fuels.
About 11 billion dollars last year, including all the various tax breaks and subsidies:
https://australiainstitute.org.au/report/fossil-fuel-subsidi…Subsidising renewables helps, but why not just not subsidise either? Renewables are already cheaper on their own, in some cases, and getting cheaper fast.
Plus military to keep prices of oil down
I know what you mean, but its one of those things where the benefits are realised once a critical mass is met - and the government can help that be achieved.
One of the major things discouraging EV purchases is the poor charging infrastructure. This infrastructure will naturally be built out as EV sales increase - but it's one of the things slowing it down. Chicken and egg…
And as the other poster said - the gov already subsidises the fossil fuel industry to the tune of billions. I'd rather burn Aussie coal than Saudi oil (ignoring the obviously better renewables).
where the benefits are realised once a critical mass is met
What are these benefits exactly? Higher costs of living? Because that is where this crusade has taken us so far…
the gov already subsidises the fossil fuel industry to the tune of billions.
Not in the way you think it does. See post above.
@1st-Amendment: The benefits of a robust charging network. Government intervention can (and is) help with this. A robust charging network helps with adoption as it removes one of the major pain points of EV ownership. Without government support, the path is much longer.
That said, I don't think the gov should be giving incentives for EV vehicle purchases. They should be spending that money on the infrastructure directly.
@1st-Amendment: Christ are you deliberately being obtuse?
The benefit of a robust charging network is increased adoption of EVs, which itself is a societal benefit due to lower emissions, noise pollution…etc.
Do I need to tell you why lower emissions are a benefit? How far down the rabbit hole do you want to go?
Still out of budget for missus car. 50k soon please.