Brand new, not re-certified, 7200rpm internal drive no shucking needed :)
Prices in title are GST-inclusive.
Comes to be about A$21 per TB
Brand new, not re-certified, 7200rpm internal drive no shucking needed :)
Prices in title are GST-inclusive.
Comes to be about A$21 per TB
10% GST
Thats for importing into china?
how did you think tariffs work?
So we're looking at about $540 delivered all up?
EBay correctly adds GST into the final price which is what I posted in the title
ahahahah xD
Nah, you just need to submit to the China manufacturing overlords here on OzB
Rofl
eh?
So many ISOs!
Yeah, I duno what I'd do without all my Linux Distro ISO's!
I need all of them!
Damn wish this were WD.
Why?
Same. WD quieter and longer lasting in my experience.
Last Seagate I had dropped out on me after around 12-13 months use.
I buy cheap drives because I am okay with failure. I don’t see much point paying 25% more for a drive with only a very slightly better MTBF, especially when (a) the true failure rates are a huge gamble anyway and (b) I can just pull out a faulty drive and replace it.
I was having cheap Seagates fail every 6 months. Moved to WD BLUE drives and they have been absolutely rock solid.
Seagate are completely happy shipping models with real world failure rates of 5-10% (ref backblaze data) and completely happy flooding the market the market with their already-failed-once-and-happy-to-take-another-gamble renewed drives.
Cool story. Seagate Exos have been fine for me. Have multipled shucked Barracuda Pros with 5 years on them without any issue. Generally if a drive gets past the initial period - it will last you over 5 years, regardless of brand. BUT BUT WAHHH BACKBLASE WAHH - no sir.
Should I HODL for AUD to come back up?
that's a good joke mate
We'll have 240TB drives by then…
Waiting for the housing crisis to be over too. Can't. Hold. Breath. Any. Longer.
1 AUD to 63c USD is pretty normal for the last 5 years. Maybe it goes up to 70 in the future and you get a mere 10% discount for waiting? Or it goes down to 50 and you're paying even more.
Have a look at a 5yr chart. It has been a pretty linear decline from 80c to now being the lowest point in that time. Nothing normal about the current x-rate.
Fair enough, I was wrong. Going back the last 30 years, that surge in the 2010s wasn't normal either though.
It already retrace all the lost last Monday.
haha yea my bad I didn't see it come back since the tariff drop.
It IS back up
Was trying to find reviews, people saying that it is only warranty for 100 days a year bad for NAS, but others saying it is probably just the same drive and they just dont want to warranty commercial users.
people saying that it is only warranty for 100 days a year
So just wait 265 days for the 100 days in the next year
genius!
Could be useful as a usb attached rsync backup drive for NAS.
If you are putting this in a NAS/server I would read here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalescanada/comments/1jhg0i9/hd…
Notably:
Some curious stuff on the spec sheet for this thing - https://www.seagate.com/content/dam/seagate/en/content-fragm…
Maximum sustained transfer rate at the outer edge is only 190MB/sec - I'd expect a modern drive, especially a 7200RPM one, to be considerably faster.
"Rated" for 100 days power-on per year, only "rated" for 120TB/year.
"Rated" for 100 days power-on per year, only "rated" for 120TB/year.
So you can only use the drive 5 times per year and it’s so slow that will take 100 days :)
Rated" for 100 days power-on per year,
That's 8 hours per day for 300 days so about what a business desktop might get used for
From memory, RPM won't be much diff but increases the unnecessary heat.
This Barracuda drive is not designed for NAS in the first place hence more failure rate and shorter warranty etc. Should be ok for secondary storage. Not sure how it deals with power loss etc.
190MB/s is horrible. I have nearly 10y old shucked 8TB drives that do much better. And this is the outer edge, it gets slower when you reach the inner areas. I can see other modern drives rated close to 290MB/s.
This is a joke of a drive. Not that it matters much anyway since it's Seagate. I've had 3 disks fail on me early on and all 3 are Seagate. WD, HGST and even Samsung before they closed the business were way more reliable.
Nothing wrong with Seagate Exos. Only bad experiences with Seagate for me was back in 2009-2010 with the 7200.11 desktop drives. I run 100TB of WD Red, Seagate Exos / Barracuda Pro, etc. Only drive I've had fail touch wood was a Samsung 850 Pro SSD after 9 years.
Exos might be alright. But after looking at Backblaze reports and with my past experience (one of the failed drives was a Firecuda SSHD that had a 5 year warranty), I can't make up my mind to get one again.
You're also incredibly lucky to see only 1 drive failure for this long.
What's the Mean time between failures? Can't see it in the spec sheet.
Nothing worse than losing Linux ISOs because you didn't stump up for a datacentre grade drive.
That's why everyone keeps their ISOs in the open seas
Still waiting for the 20tb WD Red or Ironwolf's to be in the $550's again!
Need to get 2-4 of them for the NAS
Just sent mine back, arrived with almost no packaging, and had the beep of death.
Like others have said, don't NAS these shitty smr drives. I had 2 smaller size versions iny trunas raid. Worked initially until the drives filled and started rewrites etc, then every write operation ground to a halt, and issues stared to occur. Be good for a single backup drive or other non raid applications
These aren't SMR drives, they're HAMR CMR drives.
The HAMR CMR is the Exos version that sets you back 1K+. This is the Barracuda compute version of the drive that is claimed to be "CMR" while having the performance characteristics and reliability of an SMR drive. Check Seagate's own specs on this drive vs the Exos version - much lower sustained transfer rate for this, scary workload rate and power-on hours etc
These are CMR.
https://www.seagate.com/content/dam/seagate/migrated-assets/…
A mate of mine has one of these, along with 2x12TB WD's in a BTRFS Raid1. So far, no issues, but only about 10 months old.
I had 2x 12tb of these along with an ironwlf in zfs raid5, and it worked well for a while (year or so until filled), then write speeds dropped dramatically. Reading from the Nas was fine afterwards, though zfs kept chucking warning errors. Replaced one, then the other, with better drives and Touchwood no probs. I would just say be wary if storing mission critical Linux isos
TIL 24TB hard drives exist
There was a deal on 28TB external hard drives a few weeks back.
God damn 24TB - I need a small (these days) replacement 12TB for my NAS, what’s the best price and place to get 12TB drives these days?
WD from East Digital. Got mine 16TB the other day, 16,000 hours no errors.
Ditto
I got 4 18TB over the last few weeks. All tested perfectly in read/write test (took over a week to do all 4)
Retail prices are crazy.
I bought 4 8tbs for probably 200-300 each years and years ago and now a 12tb is $450 minimum
You'd have me down, down, down, down
(Seagate) Barracuda
SEAGATE!
Bought one through this deal. Happy with my experience.
Arrived safely, well padded with bubble wrap inside a smaller box, which was itself padded with larger bubbles in a bigger box.
Recorded myself opening it just in case.
Mounted and formatted just fine.
CystalDiskInfo reading Good Health.
Read/Write speeds more than good enough for my usecase (Plex & Lossless Music Server).
Nice to know as a ordered one yesterday for the same use case! Plex server non-raid so its only really spinning when shows on it are being watched
Bought 2,they came well packaged like yours.
Did full disk scan and all good.
Do we need to pay any tariffs?