Another No Water Touching Plastic Kettle Thread

joshash on 05/07/2025 - 13:23
Last edited 05/07/2025 - 14:29 by 1 other user

So I've read all the other 'no water touching plastic' kettle threads looking for stainless steel kettle recommendations and this is getting out of control, my head is spinning.

  • People are saying Kogan… the temperature control one, or the non-temperature control. I assume the 'TODO' brand is what they mean. But it doesn't claim to 'double walled', and I believe it's only 1800W so it's not going to be as fast as some others.
  • I saw a glass kettle today at Aldi for $37 that looks like it doesn't have any water touching plastic. No reviews, so no idea.
  • Then there's the Phillips 5000, but that has gone up to $59 from the $39 deal…and the 'price beat' button isn't appearing… So I'm wondering if I should wait if I want that one, or just buy it now, $59 is a bit.
  • Then there was a guy saying we really shouldn't worry about plastics touching boiling water. Either (a) they're not that toxic or (b) they pass through you. Another article said we all the equivalent of a pen's worth of plastic in our brains, so if it was toxic, we'd be dead.

I want to get this kettle thing finished, which one to buy?

Electrical & Electronics Kettle

Comments

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 05/07/2025 - 13:26
    +9

    What about just boiling water in a ss saucepan ?

    • joshash on 05/07/2025 - 13:30
      +8

      Yeah.. nah it doesn't turn itself off when it's done and it takes a long time?

      • WhyThingsCostMoney on 07/07/2025 - 14:10

        Get an induction hob; it can boil a tea cup amount of water in seconds.

        I use my Thermomix tm6 as a kettle; it’s completely stainless steel.

        • Morien on 08/07/2025 - 21:27

          Bit overkill, no?

          • WhyThingsCostMoney on 09/07/2025 - 12:07

            @Morien: They are both valid options in the context of OPs post and subsequent comments.

            Overkill if you get either just to boil water in stainless steel. Not so much if you use them for their many other purposes as well.

      • foolsgold on 08/07/2025 - 22:47

        so I presume your okay with plastic before it comes out of your tap, as it's almost always delivered through some sort of plastic fitting or a PEX / polyethylene pipe?

    • 30year old Camry on 05/07/2025 - 13:40
      +58

      Do I do that on the Free Electric BBQ at the local park or on my unmetered gas cooktop? Asking for a friend.

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 05/07/2025 - 13:43
        +11

        Only if that one ozbargainer hasn’t already beat you to the only remaining working bbq at the park, I guess could always borrow the power point of the neighbours next to the park.

        • Protractor on 05/07/2025 - 13:46
          +4

          Park benches make good firewood for boiling a billy.

          • BewareOfThe Dog on 06/07/2025 - 00:33

            @Protractor: Ours are stainless steel.

            • Protractor on 06/07/2025 - 09:51
              +1

              @BewareOfThe Dog: Bastards to light.Go through a lot of TCT chains, on the chainsaw,too.

              • Muppet Detector on 06/07/2025 - 11:20

                @Protractor: Alternative frames for new BBQ.

                Light a fire underneath, heat up the metal and put your billy on that to boil and still room to chuck on a few prawns and snags as well.

                And maybe even a risotto.

                • Protractor on 06/07/2025 - 11:22

                  @Muppet Detector: Better take the chainsaw next time,then, so I can source the fuel.

                • CocaKoala on 07/07/2025 - 13:23

                  @Muppet Detector: And remember to tell those sitting on the bench to move away before lighting a fire under the thing. They seem to create a fuss about otherwise.

      • Murkymerv on 05/07/2025 - 14:21

        State government hasn't caught up with that yet⁉️

      • JIMB0 on 05/07/2025 - 16:03
        +3

        I just collect half-full gas bottles from hard rubbish and hook them up to a BBQ (also hard rubbish) to boil water. I use a stainless steel whistling kettle (purchased brand new many years ago), no plastic ever touches the water.

      • BoltThrower on 05/07/2025 - 21:01
        +3

        Just place it on top of the fire-bricks in the lounge-room.

      • Typical16-bitEnjoyer on 06/07/2025 - 10:55
        +1

        Run an extension cord from your neighbours pool equipment to plug in a kettle. Far easier.

        • Ade99 on 06/07/2025 - 13:24

          If they can run a pool they can share some more love re hot water…..

        • meong on 07/07/2025 - 13:53

          this… is the only comment that is relevant 😆

      • Ade99 on 06/07/2025 - 13:22
        +4

        I take a thermos to work and fill it up with boiling water before coming home……🤔

        • 30year old Camry on 06/07/2025 - 13:26
          +7

          I fill up several thermoses with boiling water and then freeze them to use later.

    • Jaspa7 on 07/07/2025 - 14:51

      like a gawdamn neanderthal

  • Protractor on 05/07/2025 - 13:42
    +30

    If the kettle's plastic doesn't get you, the other 99.99% in and around us and already in the food chain will. By now there will be nano particles shedding into the atmosphere.

    • LFO on 06/07/2025 - 12:32
      +1

      Plus ageing.

      No way out …

      • Protractor on 06/07/2025 - 12:34
        +7

        Next gen won't live long, but they will be waterproof.

    • Nerfy on 07/07/2025 - 22:20
      +1

      For me the taste of water from plastic kettles is really off putting, and I'm not the kind of person who freaks out about plastic etc everywhere, but the taste is just overwhelmingly strong and gross.

      • Protractor on 07/07/2025 - 23:11
        +1

        Yep, some of the plastics and rubber coming from OS is putrid even BEFORE being exposed to heat. Have a whiff next time you walk into Bunnings. I'm sure the ingredients used OS are way more inferior and contaminated or compromised from the getgo.

  • bargaino on 05/07/2025 - 14:00
    +14

    saying we really shouldn't worry about plastics touching boiling water.

    It depends which plastic. "Plastics" are very different to each other, just like metals are, but less science-literate people often lump them all together. Fear and ignorance is a highly reactive combination.

    Polycarbonate was the big scare, as that can leach BPA, a hormone disruptor. It used to be commonly used for hard-plastic drink bottles. Look for "BPA free".

    We really should spend more energy on exercise and healthy eating (what we should eat), reducing stress etc, but we get obsessed with invisible threats. I think it is an evolutionary hangover from when predators in the dark really could kill us.

    p.s. I like glass kettles much more than steel.

    • beach bum on 06/07/2025 - 15:00
      +2

      +1 for glass kettle’s as you can see the water making progress towards boiling and therefore feels like it’s quicker.

      • Muppet Detector on 06/07/2025 - 19:08
        +4

        A watched pot never boils.

        • Chandler on 07/07/2025 - 09:37
          +2

          Wrong. I've seen it happen!

    • AUBRX on 06/07/2025 - 23:52

      There might not be BPA in your plastic (look out for all the other compounds that have had a molecule changed that are like BPA) but PFAS and PFOAS now have that covered! And like microplastics, forever chemicals are everywhere now (thanks 3M) and disrupt hormones. Check mate.

      • bargaino on 07/07/2025 - 00:43

        You seem to be confusing food contaminants with industrial pollution. - might as well go on about lead in paint or noise pollution, for all the relevance it has to plastic kettles.

      • Pussqunt on 07/07/2025 - 23:03

        Na bro, just downstream of fires put out between ~10-25 years ago.

        Seriously though, you really need a lot of it like waste from an industrial plant or a fire training yard.

    • kbw on 09/07/2025 - 15:05

      BPA free is a pretty meaningless marketing term when most companies just immediately swapped to alternative compounds that do the same thing. Just like when teflon began being produced with a slightly different surfactant that still had all the same problems, but the research on the effects basically had to start over.

      • bargaino on 09/07/2025 - 15:18

        You are correct. Most "XXX free" claims are questionable.

        Instead, look for what it is actually made of, what is present. In this case you want to avoid polycarbonates completely for drinking containers. Safe substitutes include polypropylene, polyethylene, and glass.

        w.r.t. Teflon, it should be made clear that teflon (PTFE) pans, unlike polycarboate, are completely safe to use, and all those people throwing them out were misinformed, or hysterical. It is a misleading analogy.

  • Hybroid on 05/07/2025 - 14:01
    -1

    This when it's on sale for $120. No plastic touching water. Look classy with the matching 4-slot toaster.

    https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/delonghi-distinta-titan-kettl…

    https://www.thegoodguys.com.au/delonghi-distinta-titan-4-sli…

    • joshash on 05/07/2025 - 14:34

      $169 is a lot more than she will let me spend. My budget is $60 tops.

      • borrisz0r on 06/07/2025 - 11:15
        +5

        Can you put a price on your safety? Fear the micro-plastic particles.

      • soan papdi on 06/07/2025 - 22:33
        +1

        Then why not get the Phillips 5000 for $59?

    • High on 06/07/2025 - 09:43
      +5

      There's a water level window on it, how can it be not touching plastic?

  • holdenmg on 05/07/2025 - 14:04
    +6

    @joshash "a pen's worth of plastic in our brains"

    doesn't explain the writer's block

  • AustriaBargain on 05/07/2025 - 15:03
    +29

    I wish I was rich enough to worry about this kind of thing. I noticed when you get really rich you can start worrying about things like fluoride in water and 5G towers. When you got no more problems you need to start inventing problems I suppose.

    • joshash on 05/07/2025 - 16:20
      +6

      100%. When I was a lot poorer this wouldn't have even crossed my mind.
      You speak the truth. I am running a $14 kettle from KMart and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
      It boils water.

    • try2bhelpful on 05/07/2025 - 17:03
      +1

      I saw a hat for sale on Amazon that advertised it blocked the signals from 5G. FFS.

      • miwahni on 05/07/2025 - 21:59

        Lined with tinfoil?

        • try2bhelpful on 05/07/2025 - 22:10

          https://www.amazon.com.au/Protection-Radiation-Blocking-Bean…

          This is one of them.

          I see it is priced for gullible idiots as well.

          • BewareOfThe Dog on 06/07/2025 - 00:36
            +2

            @try2bhelpful: Doesn't work as well as this one

          • quick-dry on 06/07/2025 - 14:40

            @try2bhelpful: if that beanie provides a 'continuous faraday cage' as advertised - don't you have to chop your head off in order to put it inside the continuous beanie aka 'bag'? I guess at that point your brain is impervious to influence by 5G …

            • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2025 - 14:45
              +4

              @quick-dry: Love it.

              I just had my latest Covid jab so my 5G reception should improve.

          • gromit on 06/07/2025 - 17:55
            +1

            @try2bhelpful: If someone is dumb enough to buy it then I tip my hat (non 5G protecting variant) to the seller. Sucker born every minute, but it takes someone truly "special" to buy that.

        • beach bum on 06/07/2025 - 15:09
          +1

          I personally find that an aluminium pot is he way to go ,and it’s got a handle and everything you need really .
          Also it doubles as a cooking implement , so that’s like five different things it does.

          • try2bhelpful on 06/07/2025 - 18:06
            +2

            @beach bum: Gives new meaning to “I dips my lid to you”.

          • Muppet Detector on 06/07/2025 - 19:10

            @beach bum:

            Also it doubles as a cooking implement

            And a hat.

          • Chandler on 07/07/2025 - 09:42

            @beach bum: Should use steel.

            Aluminium will interfere with the electric fields, but not the magnetic ones!

            • quick-dry on 07/07/2025 - 13:45

              @Chandler: I've seen the physics pictures The Establishment shows us… so you're saying I'd only get half the message, and twisted 90 degrees?

              • beach bum on 07/07/2025 - 17:32

                @quick-dry: That's where a tuning fork comes in handy , and a spoon 🥄 for bending ,
                like in dinner for smucks.

      • Protractor on 07/07/2025 - 17:36

        I just whack a hanging basket frame , upside down on my head.
        Of course the added evolutionary advantage of the option you linked. is that wearer attracts lightning. Lightning and 5G are natural enemies.Lightning is also a very intense 'cooking' format.

  • Some Human on 05/07/2025 - 15:16

    First world problems.

  • doperst on 05/07/2025 - 15:19
    +1

    https://www.kmart.com.au/product/1.5l-clear-kettle-led-43324…
    The inner wall is glass. Pretty sure there are no plastic parts inside, apart from the lid hinge at the top.
    Can't be happier with this kettle.

    Cheaper one:
    https://www.kmart.com.au/product/1.5l-clear-kettle-43324095/

    • eating kiwi fruit on 05/07/2025 - 15:33

      I've had the bottom one at a workplace before, quite sure there is a rubber/silicone gasket between the glass and the bottom base. Good kettle though.

    • joshash on 05/07/2025 - 16:18

      ah yeah this is the same Kettle as the Aldi one , just Aldi have added their branding
      https://www.aldi.com.au/product/stirling-1-7l-glass-kettle-0…

      • Talonparty on 06/07/2025 - 10:45

        The ALDI one has a flared base and a steel nozzle, the Kmart one has a plastic nozzle. Both have filters made of plastic and mesh

        Oh wait sorry only saw the bottom Kmart link the top one is different. I have gone through the cheap Kmart one and the ALDI one, the ALDI one has a taste you need to clear that suggests it is NOT plastic free lol

  • OMGJL on 05/07/2025 - 15:42

    What do you think the dust was made of when Thanos snapped his finger? It was no doubt the microplastic you consume from those 1800W plastic kettles.

    • tanguyen on 08/07/2025 - 14:31
      +1

      Holy crap Infinity War was 7 years ago.

  • JIMB0 on 05/07/2025 - 16:06
    -1

    Just put it in a Pyrex jug in the microwave, not a problem unless you're an anti vaxer who's worried about 5g.

    • tenpercent on 05/07/2025 - 18:11

      I too use Pyrex jugs in the microwave, and also avoid insufficiently tested novel mystery injectables.

      Why not use a plastic cup or jug in the microwave though?

      • Lastchancetosee on 06/07/2025 - 09:32
        +1

        because the OP doesn't want to use plastic.

        • tenpercent on 06/07/2025 - 10:45

          Must be a cooker. It's not like he's cooking the plastic…. oh wait…

  • plmko on 05/07/2025 - 16:19
    +3

    The people worried about microplastics….I hope you guys don't start researching stainless steel. Not all is the same.

    • tenpercent on 06/07/2025 - 10:46

      Mmmm lead

      • beach bum on 06/07/2025 - 15:12

        Uranium in the lead mmmm.

  • joshash on 05/07/2025 - 16:31

    The Xiaomi MI S1 uses 316 stainless steel.. that's a real contender?

  • outlander on 05/07/2025 - 17:51

    I got one of these. Its 80 on amazon but you can get it from many places around $50. Not only is it made from glass, you can control the power and the temperature, which has come in handy a few times if you wanted to make say yoghurt.

    But the non-plastic kettles are a bit of a pain. Either it's glass, in which case you have to worry about thermal shock (no making a cup and then immediately refilling) or it's metal and has a weird iron taste. So I switched to using a instant water heater, $80 from kmart. Pricier than the standard unit, but so worth it because you can put a cup underneath, hit the button, and then come back 5 minutes later to a hot cup of tea.

    • tenpercent on 05/07/2025 - 18:09
      +2

      instant…
      come back 5 minutes later

      Um.

    • Velt on 06/07/2025 - 13:52
      +3

      I have a Breville glass kettle and fill it after dispensing boiling water all the time. Has lasted years.

      • UltimateAI on 07/07/2025 - 10:04
        +1

        Can confirm, I always have done the same, no issues.

  • bluesky on 05/07/2025 - 21:09

    I assume the 'TODO' brand is what they mean

    It is not exactly the one described in the previous threads, but similar enough from the description. It looks a bit different is all. That one, back then simply called the Kogan kettle on the website, is superseded by this one, I think.

  • Toilet Paper Hoarder on 05/07/2025 - 22:36

    What is the Recommended Dietary Intake of Microplastics?

  • jizmo on 05/07/2025 - 22:45
    +1

    All heating elements are going to need some form of seal between the vessel. I'll bet none of them are telling you what they use.
    As a brewer I could ramble a tonne of TLDR on types of tri-clover seals. Silicone PTFE Viton EPDM the list goes on. There is the right seal for the right environment in a commercial environment
    You just want a bowl of noodles, Kmart or Russel Hobbs, Aldi will list that 1 important part that is so close to the heat source? Good luck with that.

  • BewareOfThe Dog on 06/07/2025 - 00:38

    Where is @jv when you need a comment.?

  • Joey2scoops on 06/07/2025 - 08:46

    Miss 1 trip to Macca's and buy the Phillips. Sheesh.

  • joshash on 06/07/2025 - 08:49

    That Xiaomi S1 or Xiaomi 3 uses 316 stainless…was thinking of buying from aliexpress…thoughts?

    • vetopower on 06/07/2025 - 12:24
      +1

      Comes embedded with a Chinese thought control chip. Would avoid.

  • OBEY YOUR MASTERS on 06/07/2025 - 09:07

    Just do your best to cut down on your intake of plastic altogether. You will never fully elimnate it in our modern world.

  • Speckled Jim on 06/07/2025 - 10:28
    +1

    Having proudly snagged 50x magic sponges (melamine) for just over AUD $2, imagine my delight in finally seeing articles like this:
    https://www.newsweek.com/scientists-warn-microplastics-harmf…

    So yeah, we're boned.

    • joshash on 06/07/2025 - 10:39
      +2

      Harmful, cancerous, toxic, poisonous or otherwise, you still got a fantastic deal.

    • tenpercent on 06/07/2025 - 10:52
      +1

      The abraded microplastic particles go down the drain and, if you (or whoever else) were in Sydney, will soon end up in your tap water.

      • Protractor on 06/07/2025 - 14:43
        +1

        Don't be so negative. Some of it ends up in them little fishies and seafood we eat.

        • Muppet Detector on 06/07/2025 - 21:04

          Sooo, double dipping with seafood, eh?

          Fish poop and fornicate in water. They tell us to drink water. Now we have come full circle and know the real reason why we want to boil it.

    • frewer on 06/07/2025 - 18:19

      Hmm plastic taste

      • Protractor on 06/07/2025 - 21:31

        C'est (du) plas (tique) pour moi

    • AUBRX on 07/07/2025 - 00:00

      It just keeps getting worse :')

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