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[Refurb, eBay Plus] Dell OptiPlex 7070 Micro: i5 9500 3GHz, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD $233.22 Delivered @ Aus Computer Traders

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These 1L mini pcs are on sale again, great for homelab in a single or cluster.

Choose between:
- Intel Core i5-9500, 3.00 GHz
- Intel Core i5-9500T, 2.20 GHz base (up to 3.70 GHz Turbo), 6C/6T, 35W TDP

ServeTheHome Project Tiny Mini Micro write up

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Not as cheap as the previous deal, but it will be if you combine with extra cashback.

Model Optiplex 7070 (i5-9500) Optiplex 7070 (i5-9500T)
Discounted Price - eBay - 15% off $254.15
Discounted Price - eBay Plus - 22% off $233.22
Specification Details
Brand Dell
Model Optiplex 7070
Form Factor Micro
Processor Intel Core i5-9500, 3.00 GHz or Intel Core i5-9500T, 2.20 GHz base (up to 3.70 GHz Turbo), 6C/6T, 35W TDP
Storage 256 GB
Storage Type SSD
Display Nil
Memory 16 GB
Max Memory 32 GB
Graphics Intel UHD Graphics 630
Optical Drive Nil
Webcam Nil
Video Output DisplayPort
Connectivity WiFi Wireless, Ethernet
I/O Ports (Micro) 6 External USB:<br>• 1 × USB Type-C 3.1 Gen 2 (front)<br>• 5 × USB 3.1 Gen 1 (1 front with PowerShare, 4 rear — one with SmartPower On)<br>1 × RJ-45<br>2 × DisplayPort<br>1 × Serial<br>2 × PS/2<br>1 × Optional 3rd Video Port (VGA / DP / HDMI 2.0b / USB Type-C Alt Mode)<br>1 × Universal Audio Jack<br>1 × Line-Out
Operating System Windows 11
Dimensions (H × W × D) 7.2 in × 1.4 in × 7 in (18.2 cm × 3.6 cm × 17.8 cm)
Weight 1.18 kg

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Comments

  • +20

    I have put mine into a 3D Printed Lab Rax

    Home Lab
    - Dell Optiplex 7070 Micro
    - POE Switch
    - Raspberry Pi 5
    - 2.5G Switch
    - Patch panel

    It's running Proxmox, OpnSense, Home Assistant, Adguard, Ubuntu (Docker) & a few other LXCs.

    Visit r/minilab for more inspiration/black hole

  • good price

    • +3

      Is it?
      I think it just reflects how expensive these second hand micro PCs have become despite all the new mini PCs from China in the market. Most of these units are over 5 years old. Most people wanting this sort of device are likely wanting more RAM or storage which really undermines the value.

      • +3

        Yeah, and most likely storage. 32GB of RAM and a 1TB NVMe are already around 200…

        There's no reason for these machines to be at the current price. Refurbished and 5 years old isn't a good look at these prices.

        You can get them for 70-100 USD refurbished in the US for example. 230 AUD after a bunch of discounts and cashback is pretty terrible.

        No wonder many people are simply buying from the chinese market.

      • +1

        Yeah, companies are literally paying money to have these taken away as e-waste. The good price would be $0 and you'd still be doing them a favour by taking it away for free.

  • What’s the power consumption of a machine like this? 20-30W?

    • +5

      Yeah, you'd be better off getting a new N150 mini-PC for the same price.

      These are overpriced for what they are IMHO.

      • +1

        depends on the use case, I linked a decent N150 option below:

        Aoostar N1PRO N150 12GB DDR5 512GB for $239

        For a basic PC, media server or emulator box it's a great option. Even a PFsense/Opnsense box since it has dual NIC.

        But at only 4 core & 4 threads, it's limiting if you want to any real virtualisation setups

        • +1

          Yeah, it depends. The Dell wins on slightly more RAM expandability and is slightly faster.
          It loses on power consumption and modern ports.

          Whether the used components in the Dell are better than the new cheap components in the no-name brands is unknown.

          • +1

            @RedHab: There have been quite a few problems with the no-name brands with the RAM solder to the main board. No option to just swap a RAM module and well beyond someone with reasonable soldering skills to fix.

          • +2

            @RedHab: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6304vs3444vs3454/Intel-…

            You call this slightly faster? 9500 is almost double the speed of N150. Yes it depends on your use case, but if you need performance 9500 is a solid choice.

            • +1

              @3d3e3fae: The N150 wins out on some transcoding that is done in the hardware, but otherwise the 9500 is going to be much better.

      • +6

        A 9th Gen i5 is for me, significantly faster than the n150.

      • +2

        N150 for basic web browsing/your parents replacement machine absolutely.

        For a proxmox box, self hosting stuff, etc the 9th gen is just way better value. Power consumption isn't that bad really.

        Also these Dell/Lenovo units are solid and generally speaking, last very well and are made very well. There's a lot of adapters/3d prints etc for em. Also no soldered ram/drives. Easily all swapped out.

        Known mass-manufacturing brand Dell with solid metal body 1L optiplex vs random brand you don't really know using the cheapest possible components? Eh? To be clear, I'm aiming to get an N150 based machine for my parents! Just because it's enough for them + longer-term support for windows (who knows when the next big update will cut support for 9/10th gen intel for example).

        Just remember these units also cost like 1k new lol. I've got a 8500T model in my mini rack currently, and it's been 100% stable, no random shutdowns, took extra RAM no problem, boots everytime, without fail. Runs 24/7 as my proxmox box. Also have a lenovo M700 6400t (current box for my rents), hence the windows support issue (I've bypassed the install, but reinstalling feature updates each time is a bore to do manually lol). But it has been rock solid regardless!

    • +3

      Based on my experience with a 7060 Micro, you should see under 10w on idle with 16GB, NVME and a VM running. They are uber efficient little machines if run with a xxxxT CPU.

  • does it have additional NVMe slots to add extra SSD?

    • +2

      Single NVME,

      you could convert the M.2 A+E to a dual SATA.
      It has room for a 2.5" as well.

  • Looking to buy a basic PC for the folks to use at home to browse the internet and watch videos. Would this be appropriate or should I be going for something else?

    • +7

      More than enough

    • Yes. Have same one.

    • +1

      Almost too good really but yeah it will be fine/fast for several years more.

  • +2

    Got 3 of these in a proxmox cluster at home, love them.

    Only complaint is the one I bought from these guys was missing a rubber foot lol

    • Nice, mainly for high availability?

      • Correct

        • nice, what services is it running?

          • +1

            @impoze: *arr, home assistant, gluetun, jellyfin, samba DC, pi-hole, some more. Next on the list is Nextcloud and Immich

            • @wizza13: nice, got Immich setup properly recently, working well. The iOS background sync is bit flakey but apparently it's only the initial upload that you need to get through.

              Flawless on my Android though

            • @wizza13: Can I ask you how you've setup your storage with the cluster? I'm considering building a home server that would do similar things, would be good to know how to manage storage and any raid arrays.

              • +3

                @razdi: I have an AOOSTAR WTR PRO that I use for NAS storage which is for docs, media, backup etc. Running TrueNAS and shared to proxmox with NFS

                On the OptiPlex machines I swapped out hardware such that I have the OS installed on a 128GB 2.5" SATA ssd and a 1TB NVMe for VM storage. The VM storage across all 3 of my OptiPlex machines are combined using Ceph to facilitate high availability.

                Does that go any way to answering your question? Feel free to ask more if you like

                • @wizza13: Follow-up question: do you use enterprise ssd/nvme? My main concern is TBW.

                  • +1

                    @settings: Nope, cheap patriot burst and Kingston NV3

                • @wizza13: Is there any particular reason you don't also use the WTR PRO to run your services (besides high availability)? I ask as someone who also owns a WTR PRO (the Ryzen version) with 64GB RAM (also running TrueNAS) and is happily running Immich/Portainer/Home Assistant among other services on mine. Is there anything I might be missing out on by running things this way?

                  • @ngengerous: I originally installed proxmox on the WTR PRO but after purchasing I found out about limitations with passing through the SATA controller to VMs (OS loses fan control and throttles CPU). My main motivation was to use it for NAS storage so I ended up opting to install TrueNAS on bare metal and run proxmox elsewhere. I do still run some services on it like proxmox backup server and it does that very capably

                    • @wizza13: @wizza13 I read somewhere (on here I think) that the WTR PRO NAS has issues with TrueNAS - you haven't had any issues? Are you on the N100 or AMD versions? Maybe it's what you referenced with the passthrough, but thought it was another issue.

                      • @sssx: N150 model not recommended for TtrueNAS due to Asmedia 1064 controller

                      • @sssx: I use AMD version, I have seen @Clear mention that in his deal posts before and have asked a couple times for him to clarify what he means by that but he has never replied. I've never had an issue personally, TrueNAS working great for me

                        • @wizza13: Glad to see someone has finally tagged me correctly. So many people do @Clear without hitting the tag dropdown.

                          It's a well documented issue with the Asmedia chipset, but may be resolved with latest firmware. Dr Google and Dr GPT can help.

        • Exactly why I purchased one from this deal. Have a 7060 running solo, but, having HA would be nice.

    • +2

      mini PCs have their place, so do these.

      Aoostar N1PRO N150 12GB DDR5 512GB for $239 would be my current pick as a basic PC. The 9500 has a lot more cores & performance though for homelab use.

      • -3

        Yes for those 0.01% these are useful. For the 99.99% these are waste of power and space, and the inconvenience of being stuck with older technology on a refurb.

    • Well. A brand new PC at this sort of price range would just be an Intel N95 / N97 / N100 with quad core / 8 to 12 Gigs of Single Channel RAM and no-name generic SSD. From OEM manufacturer like Kamrui or something similar. Performance wise they are not as fast.

      Those China-brand machines are fine but the build quality is not comparable to any Dell Optiplex which was intended for business use. Optiplexes are also brimming with all kinds of I/O ports too, including modern USB-C and audio jacks up the front.

      • How does it compare to this one?

        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/920155

        • +3

          N100 / N150 basically the same chip, the only difference is a very minor bump in clock speeds. But it's still a low power chip with 4 efficiency cores, and not even close to the performance of a desktop chip like a i5-9500 (6 performance cores).

          But depending on your use case, you may prefer power efficiency over raw performance. Like if you're using your machine as a hardware firewall or a NAS.

          edit: you changed your link, the Ryzen 3500u is a decent performer. Sits in the middle of Intel N100 and Core i5 9500.

      • +3

        They probably made in the same suburb in china anyway…..

      • Agree. We have a few n150 and n97. The old gen 5 i5 still outperform the celeron counterparts easily.

    • no 2.5 ssd support unless you get an ASUS NUC 14 tall or NSI CUBI 1M

  • -1

    Also, is this windows 11 pro?

  • How would something like this be for a heavily modded minecraft server pc, as well as potentially other things? Something like a couple of hundred of mods for 2-4 people? I know minecraft is a single thread game, but is 3ghz enough for that, or should I look for something more? If something more, what would people suggest?

    • +2

      If you're really invested in the server and plan on running it for a long time, just build a brand new one.

      • I'm not hugely computer or tech savvy so never really considered that before. How much would something like that cost to do myself vs getting a pre built like these ones?

        • +2

          I don't know anything about Minecraft, but AFAIK, single core performance is what matters most. So you're essentially looking at:

          1. AMD 9600x. Latest AMD platform

          2. 32GB of RAM

          3. 1TB NVMe drive

          4. Case

          5. Power supply

          6. Motherboard

          Between 800-1000 AUD, and you'd have much more power, capability to expand easily, recent hardware, and do more with it in the future.

          Something quick I made: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9RYYDj

          Can change around some things but concept is the same.

          PM me if you want more help, I'm happy to chat :)

          • @adehmar: That doesn't seem too bad. I think if I did build it, I'd probably go Intel - I know it's as good price and performance wise, but I currently have a separate plex system. It has a ryzen which isn't great for plex, but it also has an Intel arc. While the arc can handle things on it's own, I think I'd rather pair it with an Intel for a bit of extra transcoding power. That way I could use it for both plex and minecraft, plus anything else I might add?

            Also thanks for the pc part picker list - I'll use it as a rough guide for now! I don't think I'll get it just yet unless there's a great deal going on, but it's good to think about for when I do decide to do it! Thanks again!

            • +2

              @Opaquer: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sZN4Lc

              In that case you can replace the AMD CPU with an equivalent of Intel. Around the same price, too.

              For your use case that's more than plenty. Do 64GB of RAM instead of 32 if you think you're gonna need it.

              With that you have a more than capable general purpose server :)

              • @adehmar: Awesome, thanks so much! That looks like a very nice little tower, and for that price, I think that seems pretty good overall! Thanks so much for all the help and advice - I'll keep it in mind when I go get a new computer.

    • +2

      Reminder that just because Minecraft is heavily single threaded, that may not be the case with hosting it. Server requirements are different to game requirements

      For reference an old intel dual core on a mac mini, hosting a vanilla MC server caused massive stutters for us the instant anyone got several hundred chunks away.

      Friend hosted a modded MC server (one of those bundle mods.. i forget the name sorry. version 6 of something, 250 mods?) on his 8500t and we never had any real issues, 3 of us only though.

      Just remember if you host things, networking wise you need to expose your external ports etc as well.. If you're not 'tech savvy' per your other comment - unless your friends are locally connected (roommates?) - you need to then consider your networking setup. Doing this incorrectly can expose your home network to a lot of risk.

      You may be better off considering an online hosting option and have you/your friends pitch in monthly so costs remain pretty low. Also means if you do get bored one day collectively, just turn off the service and you don't need to worry about having a piece of hardware lying around

      • +1

        Huh, that's interesting that there was so much difference in the modpacks you ran! Very odd indeed! Hopefully it was just something that newer things are better with!

        Also I should have expanded I'm not too bad when it comes to software and stuff, but have no clue on hardware and making PCs yet! I currently have a plex server that I'm doubling up as a modded minecraft server, so already have the networking and everything sorted for it which is good :)

      • Or just use tailscale

        • +1

          Yeah I've considered tailscale myself but I'm then also skeptical of then relying on an external saas solution to expose my network heh. (honestly not really that different from ubiquiti/unifi I spose which I already use..)

          • @ReaperX22: Setup wireguard then

            Tailscale is built on wireguard

  • So can I open the case of this PC and move the components to a nicer case?

    • You can readily google what the internals look like, but spoiler alert, it's essentially the same height and shape as the existing case. Not sure why you would want to put these internals into a case which is going to be much larger and more expensive than what this case provides.

    • Not without major mod to the nicer case.

      It fits nicely in a 1U case. I had 4 fit into one.

    • Why would you do that?

  • +4

    Not bad price for ease of availability, but have picked up a few 12th and 13th gen i5 (12500T and 13500T) elite mini 600 and 800s for between 150 and 250 on marketplace through liquidation sellers. 9th gen is quite old not for the price.

  • Yes but a 2.5" SSD - rare as hens teeth, almost non-existent on MiniPC unless you go for overpriced ASUS NUC 14 Tall or MSI 1M

  • -2

    Don't do this. At least 5 year old tech.

    Get something more modern. May be 12th or 13th gen

    • -1

      Link and prices?

      • No worries…

        Dell OptiPlex 7090 Micro Intel i5 11500T 1.50GHz 16GB RAM 256GB SSD Wi-Fi Win 11 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185994772918 $467.22 with eBayPlus coupon VALUE22
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        • Quite a jump in price

          9500 - $233
          10500t - $311
          11500t - $467

          7080 is probably decent since the dual M.2 that you mentioned

  • No worries…

    Dell OptiPlex 7090 Micro Intel i5 11500T 1.50GHz 16GB RAM 256GB SSD Wi-Fi Win 11 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185994772918 $467.22 with eBayPlus coupon VALUE22
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