EV Tax: $360 Per Year on Average, Will you buy an EV?

The states and territories are preparing a tax of about 3 cents per kilometer for driving an EV.

The tax is to fund the road maintenance.

The average distance driven per year in Australia is about 12,000 kilometers.

The annual cost is $360.

Would you buy an EV if you had to pay that tax?

Few points come to mind:

  • Trucks cause significantly more road wear than cars

  • Car depreciation: what if your EV car is only worth $3600, will you pay 10% of its value every year?

  • Charging an EV at a public station costs more by kilometer than petrol

  • Liberal Party does not believe climate change, so why care about renewable energy?

Comments

  • +31

    Might be worth sense checking your points with ChatGPT

    • +3

      Figures way out.
      • For 2025–26: Approximately 2.874¢ per kilometer for full EVs (equivalent to ~$300–$400 annually for average drivers traveling 12,000–15,000 km).

      • PHEVs: 2.379¢ per kilometer (80% rate).

      • Rates would be indexed to the Consumer Price Index (CPI) annually.

      • +16

        That sounds okay I guess? I mean like with petrol you're already paying 51.6 cents per litre in fuel excise. Assuming someone travelling 15,000KM a year at 9L/100KM… that's 1350L or $696.60 in fuel excise.

        If you're using the off peak midnight electrcity, or even solar…. you're saving so much more money compared to an ICE vehicle.

        The only thing to consider is the depreciation of EVs. Like I see 2020 Tesla Model 3s going for like 30K 2nd handed now but I'm scared of sudden death with the battery. (Yes I know in theory the battery should last longer than the body of the car… but sudden death in electronics happens)

        • +3

          Every car has components that can die suddenly.
          I had a 4 year old Audi which had a minor issue with a waste gate actuator arm. Needed the whole turbocharger unit replaced (single unit) at a cost of $7000. Managed to get it covered under ACL, but if the car was 7-10 years old or second hand, I'd be out of luck. If the engine or gearbox went it would be way worse.
          Batteries comparatively are very reliable, and they can also be replaced if needed.

          • +1

            @Stzaa83: Yes but at this given moment, parts for EVs are expensive and possibly impossible to purchase if you're not the dealer themselves. And ontop of that, the average car tinkerer wouldn't even have the software to initialise the parts if they could get their hands on them.

            If my 2018 Subaru XV needed a new fuel pump, injectors, starter motor, head light assembly, horn, EGR valve, throttle body, or hell even a whole engine cause the old one blew itself apart….I can either buy it new online or go to the wreckers then change it out myself.

            Imagine you trying to source a battery, motor, or motor controller from Tesla and getting it to work lol. Good luck with that. Their response would be "Book it into the dealer" then charge the car's value for the battery replacement

            EDIT: The only "EV" that I'd really consider with respect to ease of repair would be a a Toyota Hybrid where you could actually replace the NIMH modules/cells in your own garage with the upgraded LION cells for more capacity and current output. (Or get a shop to put in a refurbished pack for ~$3000 then chug along for another 10+ years)

            • @Bignudge:

              parts for EVs are expensive

              These expensive parts (and body panels), are also a big reason why insurance for a Tesla EV is quite expensive, compared to an ICE car.

            • +1

              @Bignudge:

              Imagine you trying to source a battery, motor, or motor controller from Tesla and getting it to work lol. Good luck with that.

              There's already a significant market for Tesla parts on the 2nd hand market, and replacing most of the driveline and other mechanical parts is relatively simple and quick.

              Tesla electric drivetrains are really commonly used in EV conversions because they're decent quality, powerful, commonly available and easy to work with.

              If you can work on a normal car engine, mechanical repairs to a Tesla are not a big deal. The battery is the only thing that's a bit more tricky and probably should be done by professionals.

              • @klaw81: I totally understand in theory that the Tesla electric drivetrains should be much easier to work with because there are only so many variants of a 2020 Model 3 for example. Like an app being optimised for a 3 variants of the latest release iPhone compared to the hundreds of different Anrdoids out there.

                It's true that parts availability should get better slowly as more are written off and hit the wreckers, and as the law hopefully forces the Tesla dealers to sell parts to regular people.

                I've just heard bad things about how if you swap parts around they'll need to be "programmed" to work together…. and how Tesla can just completely disable features such as supercharging if they find out you've messed around.

                Fingers crossed it gets easier for everyone!

        • +3

          "Assuming someone travelling 15,000KM a year at 9L/100KM…"

          It's crazy how much cheaper an EV is to run. I pay about 8c per kWh to charge my car, not including the energy from solar. If it runs at 20 kWh per 100km that costs me $1.60, which is the standard price of unleaded per litre these days.

          So yeah add on a few cents per km it makes sense considering how the fuel excise works. My question is though, why not scrap the current tax and apply the cents per km tax to all cars?

          • -3

            @greater mimic: That's great that you get a cheap charging rate costing 21% of the going rate for electricity resulting in a saving of $1k/15,000km driven. However, a Tesla Model Y costs an additional $20k on top of a Haval H6 ultra hybrid which results in an additional $1k/year in mortgage interest as well as another $1k/year in insurance fees. All in all, people would be be losing $1/k year owning the EV compared to a hybrid car. That's before you factor in supercharger/normal electricity rates & the new EV tax. The only way they can be financially justified is through a novated lease with solar panels & batteries at home.

            • +1

              @supersabroso: "The only way they can be financially justified is through a novated lease with solar panels & batteries at home"

              Well I have all those things… Plus the car is an Atto 3 which is actually a pretty affordable car for an EV

      • +1

        They plan to move ALL vehicles across to this new tax.

  • +39

    How can you be off by a factor of 10, twice?

    • +56

      There are 20.0 types of people. Those who are good with decimal points and those who are bad with decimal points.
      /s

  • +23

    The government will screw you any way they can .

    • +12

      Our government, is really becoming something else….. Australia is not becoming a good place. Pathetic really.

      • +3

        And we will continue voting for them.

        Do not forget.

      • +6

        Compared to where else?

        • -3

          Living standards , Einstein ⁉️

          • +2

            @Murkymerv: So where would you say has a better government and living standards?

    • And we will vote for them.

      Who is at fault???

      • -2

        Let me explain;
        I think the evil Baddies are always a "They" not a "Them".
        "Them" is usually used for "Look at "Them" over there." (grumble,grumble).
        "Thems" can be considered to be like an adolescent "They". One day the "Thems" will become big enough to become a "They".
        "Thems" are always pissed off at the "Theys" until they too become a "They".
        Geddit!

        • Them = ThemEnd

    • +1

      Aus politicians are clowns

    • +1

      No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in.

    • Yes, if cars ran on air, it would be taxed

  • +10
    Feature Details
    Type of Tax Distance-based road user charge (RUC)
    Estimated Cost \~\$300–\$400/year per EV owner (depending on mileage)
    NSW Timeline Start in 2027 or at 30% EV new sales; 2.974 c/km for EVs, 2.379 c/km for PHEVs
    Rollout Approach Trial with trucks → expand to EVs and hybrids
    Support Condition Must not deter EV adoption; ideally begins after significant uptake
    Challenges Constitutional limits, inter-jurisdiction coordination
    Usage of Funds Must fund road infrastructure, ideally transparently
  • +32

    A road user charge is already in place. Its called a fuel excise. Distance levy is inevitable. However, it should be related to vehicle size, just like heavier vehicles using more fuel pay more.

    Even with a distance levy, it mught slow EV take up, but wont stop it. EVs are so good for most driving its not worth the hassle of buying fuel and servicing.

    Its getting a lot of traction in media becasue 1. Its a 'new tax' and that gets clicks. and 2. Being against it is in the interests of fossil fuel companies.

    • +2

      we're pretty much living in a "distance levy world" with he number of toll roads we pretty much have to use to get anywhere in Sydney

    • How are they going to implement this anyway?
      Self reporting kilometres?
      Annual checks by a government offical?
      Send photos on an app?

      • An interesting question. Tbh its probably gonna be a photo in an app, but seems a risky and wasteful way ripe for fraud to collect a few hundred.

        Current pink slip inspection process seems easier to incorporate, but then misses the first 5y of ownership. Maybe new cars get an averaged charge, then its measured the year after the first pink slip.

        • Plus, the pink slip only happens in one or two states. Elsewhere, cars can go 20-30 years without a mandatory inspection.

      • Would need a new Federal Minister of Road Usage with State Ministers, odometer inspectors, book-keepers, all reporting to the Treasurer for bean counting.

  • +21

    Bro doesn't understand the difference between dollars and cents.

    • +2

      This post makes sense, cents and clears up the scents that OP is whiffing/extruding. Cheers.

      • whiffing

        Probably huffing, not whiffing

    • Makes cents

  • +8

    3 cents per kilometre
    12,250 kilometres

    $0.03 x 12,250 = $367.50

    This would not really have much influence on my decision to buy an EV

    • +5

      Yep 3 cents a KM a year would increase my "running cost" per 100KM from $0 to $3. Not the end of the world.

    • +1

      Look at it from another angle. It's just slightly more than a dollar per day.

    • -5

      This would not really have much influence on my decision to buy an EV

      Please whipcharge me more. Thank you.

  • +9

    E.V.s kms get charged cents. Cheers.

    • +4

      Road User Tax makes rants. Cheers!

  • +13

    When making a post at least try not to make yourself look like a fool in the heading.

  • +2

    Car depreciation: what if you EV car is only worth $6000, will you pay half of its value every year?

    I pay twice, maybe thrice the value of my shitbox ICE every year in fuel excise. I never complained on OzBargain about it coz I love motoring

  • +6

    The tax is to fund the road maintenance.

    Oh no it isn't… just like the near 50% tax on Fuel isn't used for roads.

    Would you buy an EV if you had to pay that tax?

    Would you buy an ICE if you had to pay nearly 50% tax on the fuel you put in it?

    • +4

      Would you buy an ICE if you had to pay nearly 50% tax on the fuel you put in it?

      this is very important message. Many of the 'i dont like EVs' statements bring up points that virtually apply equally to ICE.

  • +16

    Oh good, more anti-ev bullshit… has 12 hours passed already? Time to check the clocks.

    Anyway, 0.25 cents is NOT $3,000/year unless you do 1.2 million km per year.

    The road user tax is going to be about $0.029, or 2.9¢, but I do love it when people think that 0.25 dollars is the same as 0.25 cents.(ironically, neither of them are even close to 2.9¢)

    For an average ev, it is going to add about $360 per year to ownership, not that $3,000 bullshit you are espousing. So, how about you remove your foot from your mouth and fix your title and brain vomit rhetoric post, and post some links to actual government discussions and not made up shit you heard on SkyNews or some other pathetic Murdoch propaganda outlet.

    Trucks cause significantly more road wear than cars

    Yeah, and they pay A LOT more in registrations because of it, AND they use a shit load more fuel and therefore pay WAY more excise then you do in your shitter.

    Car depreciation: what if you EV car is only worth $6000, will you pay half of its value every year?

    Find me a $6,000 EV. And you are saying this like it doesn’t apply to ICE vehicles. Driving around in a $2k shitter and putting $3k worth of fuel in it a year.

    Charging an EV at a public station costs more by kilometer than petrol

    What? Where did you get that bullshit from? Last DC charger I used cost about $0.60/kWh. Or about the equivalent of paying about $1.20~ish per litre for fuel. Also, most people with EV’s predominantly charge at home for about $0.08/kWh or free from solar or electric retailer deals.

    Liberal Party does not believe climate change, so why care about renewable energy?

    ThE LiBeRaL pArTy… No one gives a flying (fropanity) about the party that isn’t in power that had their arses kicked completely in at the last federal election. At this point I’m just shocked you didn’t drop in one of those “wOkE LeFtiEz!” Monikers to really dog whistle out to the troops

    FFS.

    • -7

      Jeepers, there's stupid posts and then clearly those who drastically overreact to them.

      • +2

        Not sure why this was negged, you're not wrong…

        Some people need take a breath before responding.

    • How do you get electricity for $0.08/kWh? Cheapest I've seen is around $0.23

      • Powershop have an EV charging period as part of their plans. Essentially you get free power 12-2pm or overnight 12-4am. I think it's at $0.05.

        I used it for a while, shifted my hot water service and everything else I could into this period.

        They do sting you with higher charges at other times though, (e.g. shoulder) so you need to weigh it up

  • where is your poll

  • +9

    Nah. Won’t go back to Petrol. Never. 👎🏼

  • +3

    Are you trying to create a scare campaign with your deliberate mistakes?

    1. The tax is for all vehicles, not just EVs.

    2. It would be around $300, not $3000.

  • +5

    Instead of panicking about the lost fuel excise which they claim is essential to maintain the roads, governments should focus on providing more comprehensive, reliable, high-speed public transport that reduces the need for Australians to drive everywhere.

    Driving almost anywhere in an Australian capital city is hell nowadays. I moved out of Brisbane because the traffic was so bad. That was the main reason. Every time I go back, even for half a day, I hate it, and can't wait to get out. It's worse than Sydney and Melbourne in my opinion. The traffic congestion even affects the public transport because most of the buses have to travel on the roads.

    How can a less populated city have worse traffic than a more densely populated one? Well, that's just bad city planning. Bad decisions by road/transport departments. Lack of investment into comprehensive public transport solutions. Compare Tokyo traffic to Brisbane and you'll know what I'm talking about. Yet, Tokyo has 30 times the population density of Brisbane.

    Australian governments (both federal state) have been locked into a roads-first mindset for so long while population growth outpaces infrastructure, it's difficult to not call the politicians mentally challenged. They have poured billions and billions into endless M1 upgrades for decades and decades, yet there is still no high-speed rail on the Eastern side of Australia, where most people live. With the exception of inner city Sydney, Brisbane, or Melbourne, public transport is so sparse and inconvenient it may as well not exist.

    • +2

      It's inevitable, because Australians in general, even those in metropolitan areas, generally prefer to live in houses with a yard rather than in apartments. I wish governments had the nous to create a Department of Urban Living to cater to Australians' needs for actually living in an urban space, including parks, transport, high-rise and density living, strata rules, and apartment living familiarisation.

    • +1

      Maybe one more lane'll fix it?

  • +6

    I'll be saving $60 a week by not buying fuel. So in a year I'll be saving $3120. A $400 tax sounds reasonable to me - I'll still be in front.

    • -3

      I'll still be in front.

      …so far.

  • -3

    Ignoring the obvious calculation error in your figures.

    There is a legitimate problem with the RUC that it would disincentivise EV’s if it was only levied on electric vehicles and hybrids. After all, who wants to swap a fuel bill for a RUC bill? Given the $10-20k premium that an electric vehicle costs, no one is going to agree to pay that if it means more taxes.

    I suspect instead that the government is likely to levy the RUC on all vehicles, and use the existing fuel excise as a fossil-fuel ‘disincentive’. That way they can keep the EV transition going and make a bit more money on the side.

  • This is a LINEAR wank tax!!

    Socialists eventually find their only brain cell and amend it…

  • Regarding road repairs, I think a far bigger levy on trucks would be the way to go. Yes, the price of everything would go up, but we could have great roads. Surely the trucking companies would appreciate better roads too??

    • Trucks already have huge road levies/registration to account for their damage as well as paying excise on their large fuel consumption.

      • -1

        It's clearly not enough

  • Just buy a V8 and keep it forever

    • -1

      Mild cammed 304 for the win. Sounds so good.

      • -1

        I’d like one with power, maybe a S63B44B or similar.

    • They are literally already taxed higher (rego price takes into account number of cylinders). It is also inevitable that that rego will become astronomically high to ensure the masses “stay inline”.

      They will only be a rich mans toy in the not too distant future. Sadly, Even most normies on here WANT that. Keep voting Liblab! Lol

      • Is liblab some new party?

        • No. Try to keep up. Grampa may have had the Liberals or Labor. But we have LibLab

      • +1

        (rego price takes into account number of cylinders)

        Not all states do this.

  • +5

    What a scam

    Cars basically cause zero damage to the roads. The idea that it's to offset road maintenance is pulling the wool over our eyes.

    • -1

      Most aussies are sheep these days, so head in the sand and wool in the eyes is preferred lol

    • +1

      So roads never need repair?

      • roads only trafficked by cars almost never need repairs, it's heavy vehicles that cause damage

    • But cars do benefit from using roads and they do degrade over time, not just from heavy vehicles.

      Isn't it fair that there is some level of contribution to their creation and maintenance?

      • I contribute tax towards schools, but i will never have kids.

        It's as fair as that. which is to say, it's completely irrelevant.

  • Look at the practicality of it.
    Due to the fact that it is an excise it must be done by the Commonwealth, not the states. You will have to submit at regular intervals how your speedo reading. It will be an honour system. While the states can have police checking the readings when they do random breath tests and so on the commonwealth has no facility to check the honesty of your statements.

    Who is going to be honest about how much you have travelled in the past year?

    • +1

      For states that have annual roadworthy inspections (e.g. NSW), I imagine it would be done at that time by the inspector. NSW already records kms at each roadworthy which you can view online to help prevent odometer tampering.

      • Yes, that is the state that does that. The Commonwealth cannot do that unless they get more staff to police it.

  • +6

    Charging an EV at a public station costs more by kilometer than petrol

    Doubt

    • +3

      Even if it did, how many people charge at public chargers? Everyone avoids doing so if at all possible. Cost to charge an EV at home, maybe 10c/kWh at most off peak. Basically free when the sun is shining. Cost at a public charger? Usually 30 to 60c/kWh.

      There's a public charger near my workplace at a busy shopping centre. Over two years I've seen the charger used just three times.

  • +4

    Spending $360 on RUC to save ~ $2,000 on petrol - sounds good to me.

    • Cost more to fast charge your ev than paying for petrol

  • +3

    Charging an EV at a public station costs more by kilometer than petrol

    Show your maths please.

    • -1

      I'm not the OP but some of the EV chargers around here are asking $0.83/kWh. As a really rough estimation you need about 60kWh to travel as far as 30L of petrol. So you can see that some public EV chargers might potentially be more expensive than petrol from the service station.

      Obviously petrol (and electricity) prices fluctuate a lot, and some cars are more efficient than others.
      At the end of the day the main financial benefit associated EV's comes from home off-peak charging.

      • +4

        So if you pick the most expensive EV charger, and pair it with the most inefficient EV car, then it’s almost at parity.

        some of the EV chargers around here are asking $0.83/kWh

        I mean, is this the average/median price you think EV drivers are paying every day for their normal charge? Or is it the highest price you’ve ever seen?
        Because it’s literally the highest price I’ve heard of…
        For reference the most expensive 75kw charger near me is $0.68/kwh. A “normal” 22kw charger is $0.30/kwh. Home charging is less than that, and there are multiple free charging options within 5-10 km of where I live.

        As a really rough estimation you need about 60kWh to travel as far as 30L of petrol

        Uh huh, and how far in km are you proposing that 60kwh and 30L of petrol gets you?

        • -1

          I mean, is this the average/median price you think EV drivers are paying every day for their normal charge? Or is it the highest price you’ve ever seen?
          Because it’s literally the highest price I’ve heard of…
          For reference the most expensive 75kw charger near me is $0.68/kwh. A “normal” 22kw charger is $0.30/kwh. Home charging is less than that, and there are multiple free charging options within 5-10 km of where I live.

          If you read my post, you'll see I wrote 'some' chargers. That's just the price that Chargefox charges for their 'ultra rapid' chargers (75kW-300kW). Yes it's expensive. But I guess you pay extra to fill up quickly to have a comparable experience to petrol.
          Yes there are slower cheaper chargers. There is cheaper petrol too.

          I honestly don't know what maths the OP used to make their claim. I'm just providing a scenario where their math might stack up.

          Uh huh, and how far in km are you proposing that 60kwh and 30L of petrol gets you?

          About 300-350km on the highway in real world conditions.

      • Most public fast-chargers (150-300kWh) in WA cost ~0.60 /kWh, but we charge at home 99+ % of the time on solar.
        If ever we pull more than our solar system, then day cost of electricity is $0.084/kWh.

  • +6

    Been driving ev for some 5 years now. $400 a year… who cares I save more than that in a fortnight of driving compared to an ice car. This is yet another beat up like the Tesla ‘safety recalls’ which are actually instant over the air software updates.

    • I'd prefer an EV if I could afford one but how the hell are you spending $400 on petrol a fortnight???

  • +1

    Few points come to mind:

    • Anything is valid to put another tax
  • -1

    Car depreciation: what if you EV car is only worth $3600, will you pay 10% of its value every year?

    Which EV is worth $3600? And what is the alternative? People pay more than $1000 rego and fuel excise on cars worth less than $1000. Is that somehow better?

    Charging an EV at a public station costs more by kilometer than petrol

    What are your numbers behind this? I’ve heard this claim a lot and it invariably is not true. Even when people pick the most expensive EVcharger and compare it to the absolute cheapest petrol option, the EV ends up costing less.

    It’s too bad I can’t downvote your obvious troll post…

  • +1

    It's simple.
    Petrol cars pay exhorbitant Excise taxes
    Battery cars don't.
    More battery car sales = less petrol car sales = Less Excise
    Government loses revenue
    Government implements Road User charge (RUC)
    If you want an example, take a look at any governments implementation of smoking taxes, (until recent inevitable reaction)
    They never increased the tax by more than the amount that would sustain their revenue.

    Don't overthink anything. There is bureaucrat jobs at stake here.
    So if revenue was $100 million pa, they calculate the price increase that would sustain that revenue after a proportion stopped smoking.
    And our worldwide originality of vape taxes is solely about entrenched bureaucracy jobs.

    There is a point where all the government support for buying battery cars will disappear.
    Did one happen just last week?

  • -4

    12000km is very low. Working from home and the odd weekend away I clock up 17,000. Add a daily commute to that for average john doe, 25000k would be fairly typical imo.

    Thats $700aud.

    I just bought a Tesla Model Y for ubereats and amazon flex to counter the pathetic pay. Looks like I'll be selling soon.

    • I do 2k more km than you annually. This tax is a double whammy on top of my car rego.

      It still cheaper to own an ev annually.

    • What's the alternative? Pay $2,500 in petrol?

      $700 AUD tax plus $1,000 charge cost (lower if you are on EV plans or have solar) sounds cheaper to me.

      • Ebike, car only for weekends and essentials.

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