Most Aussie investors just grab some CBA shares and call it a day, but with the ASX being pretty thin on liquidity, I’m curious how many here branch out beyond the basics. Do you stick to stocks and ETFs, or do you also get into things like options, futures, warrants, or even private equity and other markets?
Do You Trade More than Just Stocks & ETFs?
AnnoyingEshayLad on 18/09/2025 - 08:26
Poll Options
- 14Individual stocks
- 102Exchange Traded Funds (ETFs)
- 6Options (calls/puts)
- 0Futures contracts
- 3Contracts for Difference (CFDs)
- 0Warrants
- 1Convertible bonds / hybrid securities
- 3Private equity / venture capital
- 1Unlisted shares (startups, small business ownership)
- 1Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs)
- 17Cryptocurrency (as an equity-like asset)
- 5Other (please comment)
Comments
Then you're diversified
Not until you are cutting edge with private credit. Makes you into a baller.
Precious metals
how do you handle the spread, when metal etfs are just as good without that bs
Which metal ETFs?
I have a few and they are not performing too well.
Where did you go wrong, PMs tripled in last couple of years
Gold and Silver and heading to the Moon!
Invest via Global X ETFs
Gold & Silver exceeding 60% jump in price over the past 12 months, I think there is still more growth in the tank.
Gift cards.
black market video game skins
pretty thin on liquidity
What's your trading volume when you think the asx has liquidity problems for 'consumer' level trading?
Op thinks they a pro trader lol
I own a private equity company
Do you trade more than just stocks & ETFs?
Yes, I visit a place and I trade my time in exchange for money.
I trade my limited skills for a payment each month from my employer.
They have been overpaying for my services for years now
Public service?
Most public servants work twice as much as people in the private sector, and get paid less than half of what they could get in the private sector. Most just do it for the satisfaction of contributing to the public.
Thanks! I needed a good belly laugh. Great way to finish off Friday.
You're also getting job security something not in the private sector.
@umoddbro: I'm in the finance sector, not aps. But friends work in the aps and I've rarely seen them work a 37 hour week. It's almost always more than 45. I'm not sure where this idea of them slacking off has come from.
Other (please comment)
Old Camry's
I hold ETFs, some actively managed funds and company stock for the company I work for is granted to me on a yearly basis as apart of my bonus structure- This is the only single stock I own. The latter I just hold for the minimum 3 years and sell at the earliest I am allowed to. These proceeds are usually used to put into ETFs or top up my superannuation.
Collectable coins and banknotes
isnt that just cash
Collectable as in, Australian and world coins and banknotes. Most of them old, antique, or ancient. I buy and sell multiple per day.
yes we also sell our cash for various products.
and businesses buy your coins in exchange for their servicesHow many ancient Australian coins and banknotes have you traded?
I collect miracle toasts with Jesus image on them.
i trade my body
I offer 35 cents and a stick of gum.
Better than the going rate, so I hear!
Durries
I trade mainly in ETFs now as I find them less volatile than individual stocks.
Market was alot easier to predict before Trump came back into office.
So far I've done well, but yeah last 12 months haven't been as easy as prior
Magic beans
Pokemon cards.
Covered calls.
Individual shares, a subordinated bank bonds ETF, one LIC, and a REIT. The shares are the majority of this though.
cfds
I buy ETF units, I don't trade.
There's a trade in your future…
Not if he dies before he sells.
Yes, I thought of that too late to edit. Anyway he/she has rightly pointed out that investing and trading are different
So would you agree that you traded money for goods?
No, I traded money for part ownership of a few hundred companies.
Trading when referring to securities refers to buying and selling in the short to medium term generally with the intent of purchasing low and selling high.
Investing or buy and hold refers to purchasing and holding in the long term with the hopes of them appreciating in value and/or returning dividends.
https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals-and-families/investments-…
But I'm pretty sure you knew that already.
No, I traded money for part ownership of a few hundred companies.
So…goods. The goods being part ownership and a certificate to say as much. Got it.
Trading when referring to securities…
You can move the goalposts all you like - you traded money for goods because that's what trade colloquially means. It is perfectly valid to say that you trade securities for money, regardless of timeframes or intent.
If I wanted to trade money for ETFs when high and sold when low, 30 years later, that wouldn't change the fact that that I traded money for them.
I'm also not the ATO, so I don't need to use industry specific jargon when speaking colloquially.
@jollibot: Words mean things, you can't both make up your own definition and try and correct other people when they don't use your own personal made up definitions.
Securities are not goods; and the word "trading" has a specific meaning with regards to securities which is not the same as a a simple one-time exchange.
@Leiothrix: Thats literally what you've done here.
Which do you think came first?
- The definition of trade as an exchange of goods and services.
- The definition of trade as it relates to securities.
@jollibot: It is literally not what I have done here.
The currently accepted definitions are what they are. I just used them correctly, I didn't invent them.
And this thread isn't colloquial, it is about securities specifically.
I’ve been reading investment advice on here about high yield eneloops and investment grade AMG Mercedes.
Do those count?sounds like sales reps
Labubu scalping
Don't forget a block of dubai chocolate too!
I mine btc
How many sats per annum does that yield? Does the electricity and hardware depreciation cost more?
Depends how much you invest, but ROi is between 30 to 40% PA.
And your hardware is paid off after 1 to 2 years on avg.This is only ever profitable now where you exist in a situation where you don't pay for electricity.
Does anyone have a good spreadsheet that they are willing to share for calculating annual cost base adjustments on ETF’s… I muddled my way through one; however, it is messy, difficult to follow and I figure there has to be a better way.
Sealed Pokemon Cards
Options where possible. ASX options are horribly expensive to trade and with bad liquidity, but i did manage a 480% gain on some S32 calls in the last few weeks.
FWIW there's a very good opportunity for folks who either have funds already in equities or even just cash (hear me out on that one) - to grab an outrageously good promo at present.
Essentially whatever you put in or bring over - you get a 2% cash bonus on - paid as long as you hold it up till end of OCT26 and up to a max of $20,000. CHESS ownership of holdings so even if you think it's too good to be true - the shares are always held by the registry, NOT the broker.
And - there's massively upsized referral scheme if you know somebody who is an existing Webull member - with up to $3,000 paid for that. I know some folks have split this as a win-win arrangement.
All shown in this deal here: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/926436
So how can cash holders benefit from this as they want the security of cash? Good point. Well so lets say Bob has $500,000 in cash (we all wish but anyway) - he's getting 4.5% at present. He could move it to Webull, using those bonuses…….he buys AAA which is https://www.betashares.com.au/fund/high-interest-cash-etf/#p…
Thats invested in cash only so incredibly safe - yeah no Fed Govt guarantee but thats the trade off for an armageddon situation where cash investments like AAA would default - we'd have more to worry about than your investment.
Its paying 4.25% for past 12mths - like bank accounts subject to change. Pop 2% on top. 6.25%p.a safety of cash and as stated find a nice person to give you some of that $3,000 back too. Oh and brokerage on ETFs is free so you do not even have to worry about that.
Also is an excellent way to take advantage of share holdings you're certain you'll have the funds still within (whether in existing or new ones) for the next 12mths - easy way to get guaranteed 2% on top of your returns. I've done myself now twice, very easy to setup and Webull have been very good - real people in customer support, Au based and very good app. Wholly owned part of very big Nasdaq listed brokerage company. So DYOR but these nutty promos are something folks are snoozing on in these uncertain times. :-)
CGT event when selling those AAA shares?
Yes and no. That equity, AAA has essentially the same price oscillation every single month - with a dividend paid out early in the following month. So while in theory there could/would be a CGT event it would be extremely limited in it's nature. See the graph linked which is price movements over a 5yr span, over that long period it was a low of $50.06 and high of $50.29.
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/AAA:ASX?window=5YIts an odd beast as it's essentially a bank account in the form of an ETF - so the only price movements are done by how far into the interest period you jump onboard i.e earlier in the month = lower price, later in the month = higher price. Rinse and repeat each month.
Just as I'm a tad thorough there are a few others ETFs similar from other providers: BILL, ISEC - but AAA has the best returns after fees.
So as I said take whats a pretty standard HISA type interest rate through it, 4.xx% and tack 2% and a lil more on top. Thats about the best I think anyone could suggest for for all intents and purposes zero risk.
And thats for the cash crowd…so if you've got stuff parked in long term hold stuff - just get a few more % on top for an hour or so's work. Funny thing is folks say whats the catch, sounds too good to be true - and I agree - but thats big Nasdaq listed companies and their marketing budgets for you eh? Anyway happy to give more info if it's needed.
With the pretty crazy Webull 2% cash bonus coming to an end in OCT - I just thought it worth sharing that a transfer of some ASX listed holdings i initated from our incumbant broker on 20OCT, fully cleared in the new Webull SMSF account this morning. So 3 business days, which was about the same as I found when I did this with my personal account too. I'm grabbing the 2% on both my personal stuff and SMSF….as heck why not?
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/926436
Is worth noting there a very good referral bonus in place as well AND you only have to initiate the transfer of holdings into your Webull account before the end of OCT25 i.e while it's getting late in the month there is STILL TIME to do if you see it as viable.
I wasn't planning on doing much with any of our holdings, thus essentially parking them with Webull for 12mths (and look there's the possibility I might stay, will cross that bridge when I come to it) - but for a 2% bonus with CHESS sponsored holdings etc. Seemed very little downside for a few hours paperwork etc - when I equated this to an hourly rate of pay for this it was the best 'hourly rate of pay' I'd ever had….so not all bad. ;-)
I don't mind giving feedback on how I've found them, so you're welcome to reach out if on the fence. Cheers.
What if you have ETFs, PE, VC and crypto?