According to their facebook page:
DEAL OF THE YEAR… NEVER TO BE REPEATED $599 only
Weatherby Vanguard S2 (blued synthetic) PLUS Nikko Mountmaster 3-9x40 scope
All calibres
Looks like a great price compared to a few other retailers in Australia:
$735 rifle only
$1335 rifle only
$995 rifle only
Hall's have locations in Townsville and Rockhampton.
Needs to be your own. No one else can have access to your firearms, well in SA at least.
A lot of states allow for storage at gun clubs I thought?
In NSW it's a case of only a licensed person can have access to the safe - so if you and a mate both are both licensed for rifles, you can share a safe.
From Vic Police's page. You can store in in another person's place as long as he has the right license. They can also be stored in a location, as long as the location fulfills all requirement. (i.e gun club?)
Can I store my firearms at another licence holder's address?
Yes, however the following requirements must be satisfied:
If the licence holder has access to the firearms, they must be the holder of the appropriate licence for the category of firearm(s) being stored;
The licence holder where the firearms are to be stored must continue to ensure that the storage facilities are in compliance with legislation (for example, the addition of a firearm/s stored at a particular location may necessitate the fitting of an alarm system);
Licensing & Regulation Division must be advised of that storage address if it is an ordinary storage address; and
The firearm(s) are not able to be accessed by anyone who is not the holder of the applicable firearms licence.
If you are the holder of a general category handgun licence and you propose to be absent from the State for a substantial period of time or you are temporarily incapacitated, you may arrange for another licence holder to apply for a permit to store your handguns.
Can I store my firearms at an address where there is no licence holder?
Yes, provided that the storage facilities comply with requirements and ensuring that access to firearms is unable to be obtained by persons without a licence.
In Queensland you can store your firearms in any safe, as long as it's compliant.
When you apply for your license you tell people where your gun will be stored.
My dad stores his rifles in my safe.
When you transport, needs to be in a locked box as well?
I don't think so. A gun bag is fine, just make sure the ammo is locked up and out of reach and that the car is never unattended.
Ammo can travel in the same car when I'm driving? ie. in the boot (locked container)?
Yeah it can be in the same car but must be in a locked container. Something like this: http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_216741_999_01
Needs to be disabled in some way, this can be done by locking the bolt in a lockbox, using a trigger lock, or using a cable lock that runs through the receiver and magazine slot with the bolt open.
@Bonsaichop: I am not a gun owner nor much of an authority on the matter … but it sounds ludicrously over-managed (the regulated way of storing ammunition and firearms I mean).
I remember listening to some farmer explaining to me once how with the laws that came in after Port Arthur he just can't operate legaly anymore on his own property. By law apparently his rifle is meant to be in the truck at all time when he's driving around. So if he sees a fox and he's anywhere but his vehicle he just can't shoot them anymore if he's acting like he's required to legally because he has to go to the truck and retrieve the rifle and come back (the fox is obviously gone already).
Seems idiotic to me I have to say.
@Diji1:
Yep it's gone way tight. And the laws seem to get tougher and tougher. I used to do pistol shooting then they stuck in new laws and then all of a sudden half the members in my club owned pistols that were going to be illegal. I can see why they would choose some of the laws, but often it's overbearing. And most of the laws punish legal gun owners and do absolutely nothing to punish non legal gun owners. But seeing how gun paranoid our current society is, are you suprised? Hell, look at the comments here.
@Diji1:
If the farmer was on private property and somewhere he could legally shoot (eg his farm), he is able to have the gun beside him in the truck. In this case he's not transporting the firearm, he's in the process of using it - not really any different to him being on foot carrying the gun. The law on locking it up during transport would be if he was traveling to/from the farm, not doing his rounds on the farm.
@Bonsaichop:
In NSW it doesn't have to be disabled - if the gun is in the boot (unloaded of course) and the ammo is in a separately locked container (ammo box with a padlock on it) then you're complying with the law. Most people I know do still disable the gun by putting the bolt in with the ammo or using a trigger/cable lock, but this is exceeding the requirements, not a required part of them.
How is this for stupidly over-managed.
In Queensland, if you are carrying ammunition, you must display signs on your car saying you have a specific class of explosive on board.
However it is illegal to display any sign that you have a firearm or have that firearm visible.
As for the real laws (in qld anyway)
Oh, and you must only have the firearm on you when you are intending to use it or transporting it from storage facilities or to the gun store.
ie, you can't keep it in the locked box all the time.
@Bonsaichop: how about transporting via motorcycle? Are you allowed to ride with the gun in a bag strapped to your back?
@Diji1: Yes, it may be extreme, but these are the rules set and a law abiding firearms owner (LAFO) needs to adhere to.
If anything, a LAFO needs to be extra careful not only in handling and transporting their firearm but in all aspects of the law itself, as they can impact their licence and owning firearms. As an extreme example, having an AVO or getting done for assault can and will lead to your firearms being taken off you, which would be expected and I completely agree with.
As someone said earlier in the thread, the best safety around such things is to understand them. Fear of the unknown is what kept the world in the dark ages for centuries!
@WazzaP: You are probably correct, however to err on the side of caution I think is safer than taking a risk that may result in a licence suspension. It's best not to give anyone a reason (correct or not) to suspend a licence.
@abadacus: I'm not sure, and this is a question best sent to the firearms registry/police. The first step would be to at least disable the firearm so that it is inoperable without removing the lock via trigger or other mechanism
There is a guy who shoots out at Belmont who rides on a motorbike with his rifle in a bag on his back.
He apparently carries the letter from weapons licensing stating that what he is doing is legal.
However if you read the legislation it states that transporting a weapon must be in a locked boot or metal box.
What you will find with all thing firearms and the police is that common sense actually does prevail.
If you can justify your actions the police are usually very good with you.
We have had the police up to our shooting property before with complains from a new neighbour.
We have a clay target thrower and shoot that off a hill into the open, but the range on a shotgun is very low, so there are no issues.
With the long range stuff (30 cals etc) we only shoot down the hill into a gully that is part of our property (gully and hills on both sides are ours)
We also lock the guns away at night and don't drink and shoot.
When the police came up they were more than happy with our actions and were on there way in no time.
Thanks OP, got 5
For family and friends?
Sure… :P Diff Cal maybe…
someone's knocking at the door…
Just impulse bought a gun. The wife is gonna go mad.
She might use it on you now :P
Thanks OP, I'm no hunter but was thinking of getting one to hang on the back window of my car to keep them tailgaters away
Thanks OP.. going to have a daughter soon.
So are we actually able to buy it without trouble?
If you have a license for it then yes.
Anyone know what they charge for shipping?
$55 to rural nsw, $70 for 2. Not bad!
The only close deal i could see is a howa 1500 in .243W from cleavers for $555, without a scope. If a .243W is what you want, then I would go for that, because nikko scopes are about as bad as they go and not worth spending any money on them.
Howa manufacture Weatherby vanguard barreled actions for Weatherby. They're essentially the same rifle.
I have a howa and vouch for the accuracy, awesome rifles for the price… I did need to shim the barrel though…
Cleavers hit back with the Howa 1500 in a camo stock in 308 or 243 for $490 without a scope. I got the email last night.
I got teh 308, my mate has teh 243… both shoot clovers with hand loads…@100.
(had to shim the barrels though.)
Damnit!!
Just went for the 308 Win! 20% deposit as they are taking pre orders, they arrive next week. Post was only $25 to the gold coast. Fantastic value for money.
Any thoughts on the 24" barrels??
Don't forget you have to pay your local dealer to receive this…
Ps. OZB has made me impulse buy many things …. from torches to flights …. but now impulse buying a rifle… who would have thought!!
Glad to see some firearms deals here. As a licensed shooter, we get bent over on prices in Australia on any firearm related stuff, so there is plenty of opportunity for bargains.
You also need to be licensed to buy a firearm in Oz, and that would usually take at least 6 months with several hoops to jump through, even if you qualify. So no one will be making impulse buys if they do not already have the appropriate licence, which almost always means a potential buyer already has guns.
Shame no left hand models, and transferring rifles from interstate dealers is not easy, probably add another $100.
nah, 35-40 bux for a transfer.
plus delivery to Vic, probably another $50-60 = $100.
Vic is strangely expensive for guns, more so than nsw and qld judging by online prices.
I thought gun is not allowed to be sold to the public in Australia, unless you are police enforcement?
This was covered numerous times throughout the comments
ah yes… :p
Hey OP thanks for making this post. Best post on OzB for 2015 IMHO
As per OzBargain tradition, with this deal, this deal, and this deal; another warm thank you goes out to the self-appointed legal experts and gun control-advocates of OzBargain, who have amassed all they need to know about guns from Bruce Willis, Arnie, Rambo, Bikies and Today Tonight/60 Minutes/ACA.
Thanks op :-)
To own a firearm you need to be able to store it in a gun safe. Either your own or someone elses.