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Purchase Windows 10 for EUR 9.99 (~AUD $15) Via bestpreisshop2016 (Germany)

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Lodgaf on 14/08/2016 - 21:49 ebay.com.au (2189 clicks)
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you will need an ebay account with paypal

German ebay allows the sale of game and software license keys, Australian ebay doesnt, Australian ebay even blocks key searches
anyway goto www.ebay.de and search for windows 10 key, you will find many hundreds of keys for sale purchase an international key from any of the reputable sellers with thousands of sales,
i personally use bestpreisshop2016, they speak english and always answer quickly, and send key by email within seconds of paying i got my last windows 10 key for 15 dollars from them.
look around though you can find them even cheaper than that
simply pay by paypal like normal to make purchase safe, its not only windows the germans have cheap, its all software, at prices for keys that will make your eyes bulge, many of them international versions with no region lock,

my first deal hope its ok

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  • scrimshaw on 14/08/2016 - 21:55
    +32

    There is insufficient evidence to prove that the license keys being distributed are genuine and from legitimate sources.

    Also, you do not get buyer protection when buying intangible digital products from eBay.

    Sorry, bad first post! You haven't even linked directly to the item in question, making the bargain-seeker do the work of having to search.

    Welcome to Ozbargain. Please read the rules.. here

    Do not post deals from shady sites or sellers that cannot be verified as legit.

    • HomeAlone on 14/08/2016 - 22:04
      +15

      Also, you do not get buyer protection when buying intangible digital products from eBay.

      Paypal buyer protection was updated over a year ago to cover intangible goods.

      Even so, I would still steer clear of this 'deal' as I don't want to deal with the headache that surely will come later :P

      • scrimshaw on 14/08/2016 - 22:05
        +4

        ah woops

      • StewBalls on 14/08/2016 - 23:09
        +6

        Thanks, I wasn't aware of that either.

      • epicttiimm on 14/08/2016 - 23:38
        +8

        It only protects you for 7 days. See clause 13.7 here. It's likely the keys will work when you first activate them, it will be past the 7 day protection window. These keys are most likely VL or OEM which are not meant for resale, and if Microsoft catches on, they will revoke your licence.

  • Jaduqimon on 14/08/2016 - 21:55
    +10

    let us know if those keys still work after 1yr

    • nuchalis on 15/08/2016 - 09:00

      Why 1 year in particular?

      • Jaduqimon on 15/08/2016 - 11:49
        +2

        oh just personal experience. I;ve purchased these supposedly legit keys before when windows 7 came out and after 6month - 1yr they get deactivated and your left out to dry cuz paypal protection only 6month.

  • jv on 14/08/2016 - 21:56
    +11

    at prices for keys that will make your eyes bulge

    Most likely illegal…

  • ntb on 14/08/2016 - 21:57
    +4

    And where is the source that those sellers get their keys from??

    • bchliu on 15/08/2016 - 11:51

      MSDN or equivalent testing software platform. They can cycle through a bunch of these over a year and that will basically unsubscribe your activation if someone else subscribes on your serial. MSDN serials should only be used for testing purposes, but people use it as legitimate keys

    • currentfad on 14/08/2016 - 22:01
      +14

      No need to get angry but there's actually no evidence presented that these keys are legitimate…Like G2A for example, sure they have many "reputable sellers with many thousands of sales", but many of the keys that have been distributed in the past have been obtained by the sellers using stolen credit cards etc. Some people are fine with buying from G2A, others uncomfortable with the idea. So as a consumer, we have a right to know where these keys are being sourced from.

    • dazweeja on 15/08/2016 - 00:00
      +2

      Silk Road had millions of sales.

    • 3252900sl on 14/08/2016 - 22:13
      +9

      As spaghettiman said "there's actually no evidence presented that these keys are legitimate…Like G2A for example, sure they have many "reputable sellers with many thousands of sales", but many of the keys that have been distributed in the past have been obtained by the sellers using stolen credit cards etc. Some people are fine with buying from G2A, others uncomfortable with the idea. So as a consumer, we have a right to know where these keys are being sourced from."

      The appropriate hypothetical would be: if you ask a thief whether they are selling stolen/illegally acquired goods; will they say yes they are or no their not?

        • HomeAlone on 14/08/2016 - 22:20
          +17

          eBay doesn't allow feedback to be left after 60 days has passed from the purchase.

          OEM keys stolen from manufacturers can go unnoticed for long periods of time. By the time these keys get disabled the 60 day eBay feedback window will have closed.

          Basically they have all this positive feedback from people that activated it fine, but there is no way to tell how many of those keys are still valid at a later time.

        • 3252900sl on 14/08/2016 - 22:30
          +10

          "ill carry on earning money from it" it almost sounded like you were sockpuppeting this deal…

          Regardless had you independently checked the keys source OR if you had said "buy at your own risk" in the description then maybe you'd have more oz-bargainers on your side. Youve been on ozb long enough to be aware a lot of regular Ozbargainers scrutinise the crap out of every deal that gets thrown on here.

        • jv on 14/08/2016 - 23:20
          +8

          @odgaf:

          ill carry on earning money from it myself

          So you are one of the sellers there?

          That would explain your attitude…

        • CheapBrah on 15/08/2016 - 03:01
          +8

          @jv: it sounds more like he is reselling them

        • Kangal on 15/08/2016 - 09:24
          +1

          @CheapBrah:

          Sounds like a brilliant evil plan.

        • jsediv on 15/08/2016 - 15:55

          @odgaf: O.D-GAF; Broden in disguise

    • spackbace on 14/08/2016 - 22:44
      +18

      4 months usage isn't a sign of a legitimate key!

      What aren't you understanding of what you're reading?

    • rollingthunder12 on 14/08/2016 - 22:45
      +5

      Not saying it's a scam, but that it is probably from illegitimate sources (e.g. through fraud) to be able to sell so many keys at a very low price.

    • Daabido on 14/08/2016 - 22:53
      +4

      Of course it's not a scam selling software at way below wholesale price to major OEMs. It's actually Bill Gates making some sweet sweet $15 side cash on every sale, less PayPal fees, less eBay fees, less stolen credit card fees, less morons buying these keys.

  • Clear on 14/08/2016 - 22:56
    +6

    License keys from marketplaces like eBay should be banned where it's harder to prove the legitimacy of keys.

    I could easily setup shop and unload my VL keys…

    • spackbace on 14/08/2016 - 23:14

      Or jump on reddit :P

      • [Deactivated] on 15/08/2016 - 08:47
        +2

        Same problem on reddit

  • StewBalls on 14/08/2016 - 23:07
    +9

    Just to save you all a trip to google translate, bestpreisshop2016 means best price shop…not sure what those numbers refer to though, they're a bit cryptic…no need to thank me, I'm a cunning linguist! :P

    • roddy84 on 14/08/2016 - 23:13
      +8

      I've studied the numbers and noticed if I put them together in a certain order they form the current year.

      Working this out wasn't as hard as it sounds and I managed to get it third try.

      • Kangal on 15/08/2016 - 09:35
        +1

        Instructions unclear.

        I managed to only can get: " 2016s-perp-i-be-so-shit ".
        Not sure what a "perp" is or what this anagram means.
        So confused, can anyone help?

    • spackbace on 14/08/2016 - 23:15
      +7

      Here I thought I was gonna find the best priests

      Damn

  • noshopping on 14/08/2016 - 23:08
    +17

    I've always used cheap internet key sites over the past couple of years and never had any issues. For example Windows 7 at HN was a few hundred dollars compared to some online stores at $20. If the keys were disabled 1 year later, I would lose $20. Then you'd just get another key. By the time you go through say 4 keys over 4 years, a new version of Windows would be out. Total out of pocket = $80. However, that has never occured to me. But say your buying from Harvey Norman it'd be say $300?…… What's really odd with the internet is the OP is getting downvoted for his comments because people are saying the key is most likely from fraud (but they are not 100% sure, because nobody except the seller knows), however whenever the government or someone else takes down piratebay or some torrent site, people jump to the pirates side with all sorts of comments like "If hollywood/microsoft didn't charge such massive fees for their crap, I'd buy it"… So it seems people who steal CCs and sell fake cd keys are scum of the earth, but people who distribute pirated copies of Windows/movies are cool.

    • Nousernamehere on 14/08/2016 - 23:22
      +2

      There's a massive difference between people who use stolen credit cards to buy keys, then resell them to make a profit, and people who just share software online with P2P for free.. Not saying that's right either, but you seriously can't compare the two.

    • jv on 14/08/2016 - 23:23
      +4

      keys were disabled 1 year later, I would lose $20. Then you'd just get another key.

      Some of us here prefer to have legal keys and licenses…

      So it seems people who steal CCs and sell fake cd keys are scum of the earth, but people who distribute pirated copies of Windows/movies are cool.

      You might want to familiarise yourself with the OzBargain deal posting rules…

    • Tyrx on 14/08/2016 - 23:28
      +8

      If you pirate a product the only negative effect that results from that action is depraving an entity of profit. If you purchase off sellers like these, you are either supporting one of two types of practices. The first would be actively supporting crime syndicate who sell stolen keys to launder their money, and I'm sure I don't need to say why that's bad. The other practice would be supporting the abuse of programs that Microsoft have setup to help startup businesses, students or disadvantaged people afford their software licensing costs. In the past Microsoft have had to tighten entry requirements (or in one case, close it down entirely) to these programs due to the reselling of keys.

      Pirating the product is literally more ethical than taking up this "deal". Purchasing the product that the OP linked to is literally equivalent burning cash (the license wouldn't be legitimate), and in addition to that you're also actively harming people…

      • scrimshaw on 14/08/2016 - 23:45
        +1

        That's a pretty good summary

        Other way you can think of it, you don't know if this guy is a:

        'Robin hood' is doing us consumers a service by 'robbing from the rich and giving to the poor' by selling highly discounted legit keys

        OR

        plain 'ol pirate making a killing selling fake booty he's not supposed to sell from a certain treasure cove…

        Which is exactly why something like this should not exist on the the front page of Ozbargain until we know with some degree of certainty or have verification that the keys are in fact legit and not stolen. If Microsoft revokes the license a few months down the road, the one who loses is you, while the seller has already taken your money.

      • EightImmortals on 15/08/2016 - 09:27

        Just an FYI, MS made a profit last year of 12.19 Billion dollars. Now of course that doesn't justify piracy but if they are licensing products at a discount then you can be sure I will try to get it legally at the best price. So as far as this deal goes, unless someone can prove to me that the keys are illegal I might go for it.

  • mskeggs on 14/08/2016 - 23:27
    +3

    It seems crystal clear to me that these keys aren't legitimate licenses for the software supplied.
    I am guessing, but I think they will be from developer programmes, student bulk licenses etc.
    They may work indefinitely, or they may be invalidated at some point.

    What I don't understand is why pay money to an Internet seller if they are supplying you with a key that isn't in compliance with the publishers EULA?
    In some ways, this is worse than straight out piracy, as a downloaded torrent is at least reasonably altruistic, but here buyers are encouraging people to sell improperly licensed software for money.

    I'm no prude about this, go ahead and pirate if you find that acceptable, but why pay for the same outcome?

    • knk on 15/08/2016 - 13:22

      Yeah, KMSPico is a better option if you don't want to actually buy a legitimate key.

  • 00 on 14/08/2016 - 23:27
    +1

    Unlikely to be legitate legal keys

  • andyken on 14/08/2016 - 23:29
    +1

    I am pretty sure it is VL key, not suppose to be resale and can be cancelled anytime. Reddit sale the same thing

    • odgaf on 14/08/2016 - 23:32
      -8

      germany is heavily regulated much more so than here, because its germany its likely the keys are legitimate, germans dont mess around

      • Jack D Price on 15/08/2016 - 09:11

        You know what happened last time something was heavily regulated in Germany…..??

  • Phoebus on 14/08/2016 - 23:30
    +2

    Awesome deal
    Thanks OP

    • odgaf on 15/08/2016 - 00:25
      +1

      your welcome bud

  • Moderatorneil on 14/08/2016 - 23:31

    Just an FYI, moderators will be further discussing this in greater lengths but currently due to lack of evidence, we are not acting on the reports at this point (this may change). We have had similar key deals and have been handled on a case per case basis with differing results. We will also get in touch with the shop for more information.

    Key Points:

    • The shop selling these products is a Top Rated Seller and the OP has said their purchase seems to still be working.
    • We are unable to determine the source of these keys and can't say whether they are legitimate or not.
    • Paypal IS applicable to non-tangible goods so if there is a problem with a purchase you can always use their protection.

    There are a lot of comments on here but not seeing any sources cited. Please send us any information, knowledge or links you have on this subject by using Talk with a Moderator, the report link or just comment on this thread.

    Status:

    • Contacted seller and awaiting response.
    • Contacted Microsoft for more information. Microsoft Support says they can't comment on 3rd party/external sites.
    • Discussion with moderators pending.
      • airzone on 15/08/2016 - 18:11
        +1

        JV must just get negged for opening his mouth..

        This deal stinks like a rotten fish. This is like the friendly and popular guy in my wife's hometown who would pop by your house with a selection of "genuine" dvd's in his briefcase. His popularity didn't make it any more legit.

        Like anything, if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

        I would challenge the op to verify his key with Microsoft to see if it is actually OEM, or if it's MDSN / EA / etc.

        • cwongtech on 16/08/2016 - 15:28

          I would challenge the op to verify his key with Microsoft to see if it is actually OEM, or if it's MDSN / EA / etc.

          You can do that with Microsoft VAMT, it's free and it'll show what type of key it is.

    • HomeAlone on 15/08/2016 - 00:04
      +1

      OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer

      It's illegal (or in violation of terms) for these keys to be sold alone at retail. They are meant for manufacturers and bundled with new PC builds. What else needs to be said?

      • odgaf on 15/08/2016 - 00:12
        +10

        its not illegal, it is just against company policy , i have been buying oem software for years from places like msy

        • knk on 15/08/2016 - 13:24
          +3

          OEM Licenses from MSY can be bought alongside a system.

          Also, OEM licenses are significantly more expensive than $15.

      • dosada on 15/08/2016 - 00:18
        +3

        No it is not at all. This is just another screw-the-aussie bonus. MS had same policy in Europe but had to remove it after losing in front of court. Unfortunately here in OZ they can do to us whatever they feel like

      • odgaf on 15/08/2016 - 00:20
        +3

        i purchased all my codes for new pc builds, if they are OEM i am compliant ???

        • vger74656 on 15/08/2016 - 07:40
          +2

          Technically you need to have a major component purchase on the same receipt as the OEM software. Not that I care about MS licensing of course…

        • perkinma on 15/08/2016 - 07:43
          +1

          As I understand it OEM is not permitted for personal use since Windows 8.1 onwards

          So if you used an OEM code and on-sold the PC you built with it, you would be fine.

          If you used an OEM code and are personally using / owning the PC you built with it, you would be in breach of the terms of use / terms of service / whatever they call it. But would probably still be fine.

          I started this short thread a little while ago.

          As far as the original post goes if the codes are genuine OEM codes they would still be able to be sold. The potential breach is not in the selling, but in how they are used. As I understand the current Microsoft OEM anyway.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/08/2016 - 09:09

          @perkinma:

          They can't be OEM keys as those are stored by the BIOS and the oem install looks for it rather than asking for a key.

          System Builder licenses ask for a key, but these are clearly MSDN keys.

        • perkinma on 15/08/2016 - 10:16

          @Drew22:

          No, not correct. OEM System Builder packs come with a key, I have two in my hand at the moment. Motherboard manufacturers are not pre-loading every motherboard produced with a windows key many people don't even use windows.

          MSY even sell them as pointed out elsewhere.

          Perhaps I am reading too much into your wording - but I think you are implying that OEM is different to System Builder? Even Microsoft call it OEM System Builder licencing.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/08/2016 - 11:54

          @perkinma:

          OEM and OEM System Builder are two different products.
          Like I said, OEM the key is on the BIOS while System Builder has a key you enter on install.

          OEMs (HP, Asus, Dell, etc) have a single key each. The keys are not unique per PC like they are with SB.

        • perkinma on 15/08/2016 - 12:40

          @Drew22:

          Ok, I've always referred to what you call OEM as a volume license key.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/08/2016 - 14:12

          @perkinma:
          It's not what I call it, it's what it is.
          Volume license is different again.

        • perkinma on 15/08/2016 - 14:22
          -1

          @Drew22:

          Nope

          Microsoft is a popular example of a company that issues OEM software for their Windows operating systems. OEM product keys are priced lower than their retail counterparts, but use the same software as retail versions of Windows. They are primarily for direct OEM manufacturers and system builders, and as such are typically sold in volume licensing deals to a variety of manufacturers (HP, Dell, Toshiba, etc.). Individuals may also purchase them for personal use (to include virtual hardware), or for sale/resale on PCs which they built.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/08/2016 - 18:55
          -1

          @perkinma:
          Sorry mate, I've only been a Microsoft licensing specialist for 10 years…
          The Wiki article isn't even close to describing the licensing correctly.

          You need to do some more research, I suggest you start with the Microsoft Product Terms, then the OST and follow it up by the SPUR….
          These are just the general terms…
          Then you'll want to read the terms of all the volume licensing programs like OLP, OV, OVS, EA, EAS, SPLA, Select, Select Plus, CSP, MPSA, Campus 3, Schools, etc. That covers the most common ones anyway.

          Enjoy the few thousand pages of homework.

        • perkinma on 16/08/2016 - 16:57

          @Drew22:

          omg. tla's op. wtftd? rip.

          btw OST, SPUR, OLP, OLV, EA, SPLA are all part of VL, but 10yr vet you already new that, right? OLVS I assume you mean OVS, np fixed that for you, odd mistake for veteran to make. EAS? Not sure. Plural EA? ES? dw, dm, idrc.

          jk! ggwp. wf.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/08/2016 - 17:04

          @perkinma:
          EAS is a subscription EA
          Yeah I meant OVS, congratulations.
          When did I say they weren't VLs?

          OST and SPUR aren't licensing programs though.

      • guidedlight on 15/08/2016 - 07:27
        +1

        The seller says they are OEM licenses, but there is no proof of this.

        The MSDN program allows product keys to be generated for free, and Volume keys can be reused unlimited times. This provides scammers with a proven method of selling keys that appear legitimate.

    • dosada on 15/08/2016 - 00:17
      +3

      Some of his feedback says that the keys are already in use and that they had to call MS to activate.

      • EightImmortals on 15/08/2016 - 09:32

        I've had that on new installs from time to time, with a brand new Windows/Office disc. I've had it plenty of times when moving old software to a new PC or reinstalling to a new HDD. Just saying. :)

    • StewBalls on 15/08/2016 - 01:26
      -7

      Everytime somebody installs Windows 10, God kills a kitten…
      Won't
      Somebody
      Please
      Think
      of
      the
      Kittens. :'(

      • Tal_Shiar on 15/08/2016 - 12:57
        +1

        Some people are so cold, how the hell did you get 11 negs 😔

        • StewBalls on 15/08/2016 - 13:42
          +1

          Well, I'm happy to take one for the team, now we know there's at least twelve sadistic kitten haters out there, the evil bastards.

    • guidedlight on 15/08/2016 - 07:23
      +1

      Microsoft product keys that are delivered digitally should be banned from OzBargain, as there is no way to determine their legitimacy. Microsoft itself says that all keys must be sold with a Certificate of Authenticity.

    • [Deactivated] on 15/08/2016 - 09:07
      +4

      Poor form Ozb. Poor form.

      These keys are clearly illegitimate and you continue to allow this to be up.

      All keys including OEM come with a certificate of authenticity sticker, and these clearly do not.

      https://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/antipiracy/Pages/…

      These are MSDN keys which will be deactivated when the underlying agreement expires (12-36 months).
      These are the same illegitimate keys peddled on reddit and everywhere else on the internet.

      Shame on you.

    • leftspeaker2000 on 17/08/2016 - 16:33

      Where are we up to on this ?

      • Moderatorneil on 17/08/2016 - 17:05

        Sure, firstly there are a lot of "facts" being thrown around here, some of which are true, some are false, and some grey areas.

        • The seller has been contacted but has not responded.
        • The seller is based in Germany.
        • German law allows for sale of keys which you can read in this comment.
        • This transaction is allowed to be sold on eBay Germany.
        • We reported this listing to eBay Germany but they did not take it down.
        • We contacted Microsoft and they couldn't comment on third party sites.

        So its legal and permitted to sell keys in Germany on eBay. As the transaction is done in Germany this is equivalent to flying to Germany, buying the software, and then flying home. So US & Australian laws don't apply.

        The issue here is if the keys were illegally obtained. Microsoft per their many pages tell you that if it's not sold directly by Microsoft or one of their resellers then it's probably stolen or counterfeit. But that's clearly not the case in Germany. On the other hand, you can download and use Windows 10 for free without activating it so it seems Micrsoft is hands-off when it comes to consumer licencing of Windows and has been for a while.

        So we have no evidence that the seller is selling illegally obtained keys. You can speculate all you want but if eBay, Microsoft and the German government are permitting it (or ignoring) then the onus isn't on OzBargain to imply some opinion.

        We've also had many CD Key shops here such as CD Keys where again we don't know the source of these keys.

        At this point given the decisions by eBay + Microsoft + Germany, there isn't any action warranted for this deal at this time. We will however monitor this deal to see if any members having issue with this product.

        P.S. I know there are lots of "experts" here but please be polite in discussion. :)

        • guidedlight on 17/08/2016 - 20:43

          I believe the "key" [might the pun] issue here, is that there are WAYS to generate seemingly limitless quantities of Windows keys.
          These keys are not licensed for retail use, but are intended for IT Professionals that have a specific need to either manage large fleets of machines, or for development/testing/training purposes.

          These keys are provided as a CONVENIENCE to the IT community, and reselling them damages the software industry… and is in effect theft.

          TO PROVE MY POINT. I WILL PURCHASE ONE KEY FROM THIS DEAL, AND DEMONSTRATE IT'S ORIGIN.
          I will capture on video the whole experience (the website says keys will be delivered within 30 seconds), at the end I will post the outcome here. I do not know what will happen!

        • guidedlight on 17/08/2016 - 22:12
          +8

          Okay. It looks like this deal is legitimate and everything that the seller claims is true.

          I purchased a key, and it is an OEM license of type:

          Win 10 RTM Professional OEM:DM

          FYI, the DM part means that it was provided by Microsoft, Direct to the Manufacturer.

          My video proof is here: https://vimeo.com/179177143
          p.s. I'm a bit bummed because I really wanted to prove a point and was willing to part with $15 to do so. Anyway, it was an interesting exercise.

        • goamax on 18/08/2016 - 12:27

          @guidedlight: Key status reported by me on 15.08.2016 <G> "Stay connected at all times"

        • guidedlight on 18/08/2016 - 13:41

          @goamax: I know. I should have read all the thread comments. Doh.

        • goamax on 18/08/2016 - 14:04

          @guidedlight: Np, many hands……

        • leftspeaker2000 on 19/08/2016 - 11:42

          @guidedlight: How do you know how to check that stuff ? I assume you work as an IT Pro ?

        • cwongtech on 20/08/2016 - 00:01

          @leftspeaker2000:
          Volume Activation Management Tool, or VAMT for short, it's a tool where admins are able to activate microsoft products so they don't have to copy and paste each one (say if you're dealing with 100 comps). I used it before (not an IT pro), it's not that hard once you've got the database thingo set up.
          Have a read. You can download it for free direct from Microsoft :)
          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/itpro/windows/deploy/vol…

  • epicttiimm on 14/08/2016 - 23:31
    +2

    There's a reason why eBay/PayPal has a policy against software keys and digital goods. Good luck getting a refund when Windows becomes unactivated. Edit: PayPal does protect digital goods, but only lets you claim a refund 7 days after your purchase date. It is highly likely any problems with the key will occur after a week.

    • Garagesale on 15/08/2016 - 05:38

      dont bank on paypal refundng even a day later.
      bought a code off ebay, seller never sent and pp said bad luck and i had to contact my bank.

  • butter on 14/08/2016 - 23:32
    +5

    Can still use the build 10130 trick. Free Windows 10 legitimately.

    Edit- Before the barrage of "how?" posts, see this video: https://youtu.be/2gUu7ANPwj8

    • Kranbone on 15/08/2016 - 03:44

      I have windows vista on an ACER machine. Still unsure of how the above works. Do I need to buy a new key or are the upgrades free and genuine?

      • butter on 15/08/2016 - 04:59
        +4

        Free and genuine. You install an early build of windows 10 which Microsoft has publicly shared keys for. Then you upgrade to the latest copy of windows for free

        Only dodgy part about this method is that the early build expired in September 2015 and you have to trick your computer into thinking it's before this date. You still activate windows through Microsoft so as long as you are OK with changing the clock in your BIOS you should be ok.

        Disclaimer: I'm not here to discuss the legalities of this, just telling you its possible. You'll have to find a 10130 iso and be savvy enough to follow instructions. As always, read the fine print.

        • Kranbone on 16/08/2016 - 04:47

          I think I can manage that but do I need any vmware to do accomplish this?

    • lostn on 02/09/2016 - 11:32

      The video has gone private.

      Do you have to join the insider program to get it? And do you have to stay an insider?

  • KBZ on 14/08/2016 - 23:52
    +2

    Illegal is a bit harsh, prices are about what reddit softwareswap is selling it for, against terms of use most likely.
    As it's probably volume licensing keys.

    • jv on 14/08/2016 - 23:54
      +1

      As it's probably volume licensing keys.

      Which would make it illegal

      • dazweeja on 15/08/2016 - 00:09
        +6

        Not necessarily. Violating terms and conditions does not equate to breaking the law. Circumventing geoblocking is one example of this.

        • jv on 15/08/2016 - 00:24
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          Violating terms and conditions does not equate to breaking the law.

          Selling something that is not yours to sell is illegal… Similar to theft.

          very different to geoblocking.

      • noshopping on 15/08/2016 - 00:24
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        If you use a VPN in the UAE, you are a criminal. The fine is $725,000 or jailtime. Any criminal using VPN to watch Netflix or Skype (Yes, Skype is illegal to use in many countries because the government cannot listen in or control it), you should be jailed. (sarcastic). Anyone buying a key should do their dilegence as to whether or not it's worth it. For example, before you buy a key, Google up the seller to see if people have left them bad reviews on other forums. If thousands of people buy these keys, there should be thousands of negative reviews after a certain period of time. I ALWAYS pay FULL price for indie games, music or software (e.g. small developers). I believe they should receive as much support as possible. For big corporations, I don't think they'll lose sleep over an OEM key being resold….. I mean if you look at it right now, Microsoft is GIVING AWAY Windows 10 for people with Win7, 8, etc.

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