All versions are OEM.
Have bought several times from this site before - I have never had any problems.
Here are the other links:
Windows 10 Home: https://www.hrkgame.com/games/product/windows-10-home-editio…
Windows 8.1: https://www.hrkgame.com/games/product/windows-81-oem-pc-cd-k…
Windows 7 Pro: https://www.hrkgame.com/games/product/windows-7-professional…
Enjoy.
EDIT: For cheaper price on Windows 10 Pro only see: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/293839 (thanks to cdaddy)
Can you still do the free upgrade from win 7 or.8.1 to 10?
Would be the cheaper way to get 10 if it's still possible.
You can still get it from here https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/accessibility/windows10upgra…
You just need to tell Microsoft you have special needs.
We all have special needs if we have windows 8 installed ;)
But if you've got vista you're beyond help.
Thanks, have been on the lookout for one of these sites that accept BTC.
you can actually just activate a fresh windows 10 install with a windows 7 or windows 8 key. did it a few days ago. no need to go through the 'accessibility upgrade' route.
It's also cheaper there for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1
Well, no it isn't.
i want to put that "brace yourselves" meme up that says brace yourselves the windows police are coming, in regards to the people that always have something to say about the legitimacy of these keys.
Yes, let the thousands of thousands illegal software sellers keep posting here, will be interesting to see what will happen
I'm one of those people who complains about these deals, however nobody seems to grasp what I am trying to point out.
As a thrifty person, I don't spend money on things where I don't have to. I don't like M$ and I have only ever bought ONE copy of Windows (XP Pro OEM Upgrade) in my whole life. I have lots of machines running Win7 and Win10.
If you feel that it's OK with a less than 100% technically valid licence, then that is perfectly fine with me. I agree with that.
However, if you are going down that route, then why would you pay a shady online seller $18.28/$15.66/$10.44/$13.05 for something that can be obtained for a significant lower amount?
It's the PRICE that I object to, not the morality LOL
However, if you are going down that route, then why would you pay a shady online seller $18.28/$15.66/$10.44/$13.05 for something that can be obtained for a significant lower amount?
Assuming you mean download a crack, there's a clear difference in functionality you're getting when you pay for an OEM key over using toolkit. Not going to go into it, but yes you can use windows with the toolkit but it isn't the same under the hood. A lot of people don't mind that, and that's fine. I just don't think you should equate it to piracy as though they are functionally exactly the same. One requires a toolkit, the other doesn't.
HRK is not really a shady seller. If you say those things, can you please provide some factual evidence?
I have bought from them before and they have always delivered. Every time the keys were valid and there was no issue whatsoever.
HRK is not really a shady seller.
I never said that they were. However:
A) they are either breaking their own licencing agreement with Nicrosoft,
OR
B) They are reselling goods that have "become available" as the result of somebody else breaking the MS licence agreement
For A) They are directly responsible, however I doubt this is the case
For B) They are basically reselling something that they don't own, and have no right to own.
So, either way that makes then "shady".
I have bought from them before and they have always delivered.
Errrrmmm - it's not just about you. The fact that they delivered something in exchange for money doesn't mean that they are 100% honest.
Every time the keys were valid and there was no issue whatsoever.
Well, the installation validated however that doesn't mean it's a valid key or licence.
Remember, a stolen coat you bought from a bloke at the pub will keep you just as warm as an identical coat bought at full price from a retailer.
There is also the issue that Microsoft almost certainly sells Win10 OEM licence packs at a much higher price than these guys are reselling them at. So, that's a bit suss.
Anyway it's semantics. They are selling something that you and me have no way of knowing where it came from. The only certain thing is that it didn't come from a MS-valid channel.
"They are selling something that you and me have no way of knowing where it came from. The only certain thing is that it didn't come from a MS-valid channel."
That is right and saying in a public forum that a business is shady is (a) morally and ethically wrong in my opinion, and (b) from my professional opinion is also dangerous as it could be taken as defamation (I work in that field) because (1) it is made in public and to the public, (2) it is a negative derogatory, and (3) you have no defense to prove that your statement is true as you have just conceded that you have no way of knowing what is happening behind the scenes. This is put in simple terms but nevertheless the key elements of defamation are there. You are merely working on guesses and assumptions.
Also, just keep in mind that MS has a large number of employees monitoring the web for sale of their products. MS will be aware of HRK and if HRK was in breach of their licensing regulations I think it would be fair to say that Microsoft would stop the sale. But of course that is also an assumption. I will notify MS and then if HRK continues to sell the keys you know MS is OK with it.
That is right and saying in a public forum that a business is shady is (a) morally and ethically wrong in my opinion, and (b) from my professional opinion is also dangerous as it could be taken as defamation
I work in that field)
No, you don't.
I didn't say they were shady. However YOU said "HRK is not really a shady seller."
[wink]
I will notify MS and then if HRK continues to sell the keys you know MS is OK with it.
How noble of you LOL.
You can be sure that HRK are not a client of Microsoft. Put another way, they didn't get the keys from Microsoft.
As a "legal professional" you would know about licence agreements, etc.
Read this PDF and learn, rather than being an argumentative ass.
https://www.msregrefurb.com/RRPSite/Information/ProgramGuide…
The keys cost USD $6 each direct from MS or less if you buy them from a reseller.
However, these keys cannot be offered for sale separate from a PC, It's all there, get one of your legal secretaries to read it and summarise, while you are at golf on Monday..
And you know how that the keys are those keys from that program?
Anyway, just because MS writes something in their terms and conditions or license agreements for that matter, does not mean they are valid and enforceable - courts decide that. Maybe MS knows this and rather than a test case and a legal precedent being established (effectively invalidating their licenses having certain stipulations as a whole MS is fine with this being done.
See http://www.linklaters.com/Insights/Publication1403Newsletter… as an example when a company's license terms are being held invalid and unenforceable.
Or this: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-196_en.htm on what can happen when MS is being stupid (although as of 2014 this commitment has ceased for various reasons but nevertheless MS had to pay in 2013 and 561 million Euros is not pocket change, even for MS)
MS has learned to avoid legal precedents and either pays if they have done something wrong or MS is not willing to test the terms they have written hoping that most people are intimidated enough and take their terms face value and obey - I can tell you from personal experience regarding forced updating to Windows 10.
So, unless you know where those keys come from it is pure speculation. Maybe MS offloaded a huge load of old Windows 7 keys before they stop patches in three years. Or they want to entice people to go to Windows 10 by offloading cheap keys (after all, at least they get some money as opposed to it being free before - so now is much better for them). Of course they cannot do it as Microsoft but need to do it indirectly to avoid cannibalising MS sales.
But all of this is speculation. Given MS monitors many websites and they have not shut down HRK for piracy I think it would be reasonable to assume the keys are legal and fine.
P.S.: Why do think legal secretaries summarise case law, legislation, or license documents? That is what trainees are for! Never burden a legal secretaries with tedious work - you will pay for it eventually with long hours, missed memos and meetings etc. ;-)
So, unless you know where those keys come from it is pure speculation
So, what you are saying is that I am not allowed to speculate, however you are.
It's impossible to prove a negative.
I am saying neither of us should speculate. However, what I am saying is that if they were doing something illegal MS would have shut HRK down as clearly HRK is not hiding in some far away or difficult to reach jurisdiction but is openly doing business.
And until some hard evidence is there that those keys are not legit I think it is only fair to say that without such evidence HRK should be given the benefit of the doubt.
And until some hard evidence is there that those keys are not legit
They are INHERENTLY NOT LEGIT. The evidence that proves it 100% without a shadow of a doubt is that they are being offered for sale.
Jeeze, it's not hard.
(Disclosure: I don't actually care)
Until now I thought you were a reasonable person.
Just because you say so does not make it so.
Equally, just because MS write whatever they like in the T&Cs/Licenses does not make it valid, legal and/or enforceable.
If I was allowed to compile a book of T&Cs I have seen and had to correct (some by large international companies) it would make an entertaining, shocking and hilarious reading as some of these companies try to get away with the most ludicrous things - of course all dressed up in nice legalese language that no normal person without a large pain threshold could ever comprehend.
Well, if you are right, MS will shut down HRK soon as they have been notified.
illegal
[citation needed]
Only illegal if the keys were obtained with stolen payment details and then on sold to an end user.
Breaking TOS for selling OEM without hardware, I think Microsoft really doesn't care.
Good one, I need windows 7 64 bit so I got one.
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Win10 or Win7? hmmm