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Adler A110 12 Gauge Lever Action Shotgun - Walnut 20" $599 @ Cleaver Firearms

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Adler A110 12 Gauge Lever Action Shotgun - Walnut 20" $599 @ Cleaver Firearms
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dhoneybun on 05/10/2017 - 09:43 cleaverfirearms.com (3775 clicks)
Last edited 05/10/2017 - 14:18 by 2 other users

Cheaper than previous deals for the Adler and this time with Walnut stock

Adler A110 12 Gauge walnut stock lever action shotgun.
20" barrel, timber stock and forend
3 chokes 5 shot

New $599

Previous deals with synthetic stock. See these for comments, etc:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/318830
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/323510

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      • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 17:14

        Common factor is human intervention.
        Remove humans from both situations and no one dies!
        I know, logical over emotionally controlled thoughts is not a strong point of humanity in a time of trauma, yet are you not of suffice intellect to separate the two?

        • wyrmy on 06/10/2017 - 18:43

          What exactly is emotional about what I said?
          Once you actually address my response especially in relation to how your statistical comparison is irrelevant to the topic then maybe we can talk about your attmpted verbal jujitsu disguised as logic.

    • shaybisc on 06/10/2017 - 09:56
      +1

      Look at the top 10- South American countries + Swaziland + Jamaica. Now compare the US to countries you can fairly compare it to - off the scale.

      • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 22:10

        Now look at the number of guns per 100 people and you find that Australia has multiples more than 8 of the top 10 countries in that list.
        FFS New Zealand has more gun deaths per capita than we do!
        Perspective…

    • skrep on 05/10/2017 - 22:05

      didn't stop the newsletter hitting my mailbox.. world still spins.

  • mooney on 05/10/2017 - 22:29
    -1

    Don’t care if this is revoked. I’m downvoting because if it’s too soon to discuss gun violence then it’s too soon to post pointless bloody deals on them too.

    This posting is insensitive and the deal is pretty shitty too.

    • [Deactivated] on 05/10/2017 - 22:52
      +6

      No. You and others are downvoting due to your pre-existing moral beliefs, using the dead of the Las Vegas massacre to advance and promote your political agenda.

      • mooney on 06/10/2017 - 08:46

        You’re correct of course. I have a political agenda that people kill people so I’d prefer to try and restrict their ability to commit mass atrocities.

        I don’t know what moral belief I should have. Not sure less dead kids is a controversial point of view, but if it is then feel free to make me a revolutionary.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 08:59
          +1

          That's exploitation of an atrocity and the dead victims due to a pre-existing belief. The exploitation is concrete, so you rationalise it with a belief of righteousness. If atrocities have a mourning and respect period, maybe lay off the politics during the exclusion period rather than shamelessly getting on the soapbox.

        • mooney on 06/10/2017 - 09:05

          @Frugal Rock: Nope. I’ll exploit the atrocity. Damn right I will. If more people did maybe change would happen.

          Instead no meaningful change will happen because money.

          It’s not disrespectful, you don’t know the will of the families who just lost their loved ones. Nor do I. I’d wager a guess they’d be keen to see a change to gun laws tho.

          I just have a different view to you. I think less people having access to guns is a good thing. You have more confidence in humanity to not shoot each other than I do.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 09:23
          +5

          @mooney:
          The 'damn right' passion you show is interesting. You hold your moral belief strongly. You will use tragic events to strengthen and justify that belief, and you will dismiss any counter belief based on the righteousness of your present belief. That's pretty much also known as extremism. I am not particularly for or against guns, more against extremists projecting their moral beliefs on other law abiding citizens. I don't tell you what breakfast you must eat, so don't tell others what deals they can browse. If you have an objection to gun laws, contact your local members of parliament. Internet slacktivism is not the place.

        • mooney on 06/10/2017 - 09:53
          +1

          @Frugal Rock: Yep. Feel free to label me however you want.

          When it comes to guns, the consequences can be devastating. When it comes to breakfast (your false equivalency) I struggle to see the wider risk to the general public. No one, to my knowledge has committed mass murder with Weetbix.

          I am free to express my views in whatever way I deem appropriate. People are free to post gun deals on ozbargain if they feel it’s appropriate.

          Not sure why you’re against free speech?

        • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 11:11
          +4

          @mooney:
          Voting on a product you have no intention of buying is not free speech. If I don't like jerky, I don't click on jerky links. Voting the jerky deals down is antagonism. You are virtue trolling. Your first line shows you know you are breaching guidelines.

        • mooney on 06/10/2017 - 12:37
          +1

          @Frugal Rock: I believe I’ve been extremely transparent towards my motivation throughout this interaction.

          You call it virtue trolling. That’s ok too. I happen to think it’s a very important topic so reserve the right to spout my own views in whatever form I see appropriate. I don’t think it’s worth the risk of being quiet on this subject.

          Remember you also have the right to ignore my ‘trolling’. It’s not your job to be ozbargain police. This site is already very well moderated. If they choose to remove my objection on the topic then that’s their call to make. And that’s fine as well.

          Anyway. I’m suspecting we won’t bridge the divide on this one. Hope you have a lovely weekend. I’ve enjoyed the chat.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 13:01
          +2

          @mooney:
          I think your energy would be better spent on the plight of the Rohingya people. Australia gives approximtely $60 million per year to each of Myanmar and Bangladesh. At least one of those countries is land mining Rohingyas. The Australian government sponsors direct breaches of the Geneva convention. Meanwhile you are here pressing the downvote button on bargain deals. In fact, the Nobel organisation funded Myanmar's leader Suu Kyi. The Nobel Peace Prize funded genocide.

        • Hayesy22 on 06/10/2017 - 13:37
          +2

          @mooney: Actually the meaningful change you want did happen many years ago and we haven't had mass shooting since. You must have confused this site with some American bargain site.

        • mooney on 06/10/2017 - 13:47
          +1

          @Hayesy22: Yep. Hayesy22, you’re right. Australia should be proud of the work done to eliminate mass shootings.

          That doesn’t mean people should sit back and think the job is done. Rules change and are changing. http://www.smh.com.au/world/australias-tough-gun-laws-have-b…

          And it doesn’t change my belief that there’s bugger all reason for the average Aussie to own a gun.

          @Frugal Rock- I’m completely confused by your last comment. There is a ranking system for issues and only the top one should be considered? So humans should forget about animal rights until all human rights issues are solved?!?

        • FabMan on 07/10/2017 - 23:13
          -1

          @Frugal Rock: When is the best time to discuss the subject? How much time should pass?

      • [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 17:18
        +1

        Apparently posting "HEAR, HEAR" is inflammatory, yet other members posting clearly politically motivated posts isn't!
        Glad the moderation team are remaining impartial in this thread and weeding out the politically motivated neg's!

        [Deactivated] on 06/10/2017 - 17:18 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
  • xordis on 05/10/2017 - 23:03

    Besides all the stupid "I love/hate guns" comments, has anyone actually assessed the deal.
    This is the gun that the government is trying to ban. Despite it's price, and the fact I have no need for a lever action shotgun, I would say it's a risky buy given it might be confiscated in the future.

    On the other hand if it does get banned, there could be a buy back for it, so at RRP you might make $250 from the deal, then it would truly be an OZBargain.

    • Spic3y on 06/10/2017 - 08:20

      Why buy gold bullion when you can buy Turkish shotguns!? /jks

      In all seriousness, there are and always have been other lever action shotguns on the market which most people believe are better built. I just think Adler is using their notoriety for publicity.

      Regardless I think they will end up simply banning future sales, not buy them back as they are totally legal to buy at this point in time, I imagine backdating a ban would cause all sorts of headaches.

      • xordis on 06/10/2017 - 10:06

        I did watch a guy shooting one to see how "dangerous" these things looked.
        Cycling the action was extremely stiff (yes it would loosen up over time) and on the fourth round the shell jammed in the chamber.
        Shooting a shotgun tiring enough (heavy gun, usually break action, fair bit of recoil), having to cycle a cheap action is not a fun thing.

  • Magpye on 05/10/2017 - 23:49
    +3

    So, any deals on popcorn ?

  • Miikeboyle on 06/10/2017 - 07:36
    +5

    I was genuinely interested in the Adler but was greatly disappointed when reading through the comments how little they had to do with this firearm. It’s mainly 5 pages of people winging about laws and feelings.

    • redcreek200 on 06/10/2017 - 08:20
      +2

      So you added another whinge ?

    • Spic3y on 06/10/2017 - 08:24
      +2

      Yeah, I guess there are lots of people living in their city 'bubble' and don't realise that people use tools like these for handling pests and vermin rurally on their farms.

      I personally find poisoning or snaring and bludgeoning pests to death far less humane than a clean shot with a firearm?

      • redcreek200 on 06/10/2017 - 08:45
        +2

        We never used a shotgun on the sheep and cattle station I grew up on. Always the standard rifle. 222, 243 calibre type. Other properties were the same.

        So don't kid yourself, whatever your stand on guns is. This is for 'having fun' and zero to do with farm management.

        • Adz81 on 06/10/2017 - 08:50

          We use shot guns on our property for pest control, a .410 & 12 gauge, so yes, the Adler could be used for vermin control… But as my da' said when I told him about the Adler… If you need that many shots with a 12 gauge to kill something, maybe shooting isn't the right sort of pest control for you.

          Unless… Unless… Unless, you're taking down feral pigs, those big bastards may need a few shots… Thank you Miikeboyle for the correction (below).

        • Miikeboyle on 06/10/2017 - 08:55
          +2

          @Adz81: On my parents farm there are mobs of feral pigs. Close range hunting with a standard bolt action rifle is no where near as effective as a shotgun. And unless you only plan on taking down one pig a day you often need more shots that the standard 2 a double barrel provides.

        • Adz81 on 06/10/2017 - 08:58

          @Miikeboyle: Good point, corrected my post to reflect it.

        • Spic3y on 06/10/2017 - 09:11
          +2

          My single shot 12ga and .22 pump action are perfect for me on my 'hobby' farm and this Adler would be excessive for what I need but that doesn't mean it's the same for every farmer or means its a bad deal.

        • redcreek200 on 06/10/2017 - 09:19
          +1

          @Adz81:

          Yes, but the standard reply by 99% on this thread that they'll use it for their own pest management is a deflection and a lie.

        • Spic3y on 06/10/2017 - 09:59

          @redcreek200: Very true. Unfortunately, these Adlers have been given some kind of 'god status' by the media when in reality there are some better options out there. I know a couple of people who have purchased them simply because they heard about all the media kerfuffle. I guess it just proves any publicity is good publicity?

          This is still a deal regardless…

        • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 14:47

          @Spic3y:
          And may be that is the reason behind sales. For what it is, is a good price. Price.

        • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 14:53

          (wrong place, sorry)

        • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 14:55

          @Miikeboyle:

          As you sound as having experience, I'll ask:

          Wouldn't a 7.62 bullet will be more effective?
          More practical?
          Less noisy?
          Smaller, lighter to carry?

          That is what I saw in use overseas.
          Hence my question, what would be better: a shotgun? single hi-velocity bullet?

          PS: Excluding/ignoring local/current regulation for firearms, of course.

        • Spic3y on 06/10/2017 - 16:41
          +1

          @LFO: It depends entirely on what you are hunting for.

          I mainly use shotguns for very small animals, birds or moving targets at close range like in the scrub and bush. Shotguns are noisier but that can be an advantage if you are simply trying to scare vermin or birds from a paddock.

          Rifles, on the other hand, have a much greater deadly range but also need more accuracy hence why I personally only use rifles for stationary targets in fields and paddocks or if some stock needs 'euthanising'. I never shoot at a moving target with a rifle as I try my hardest to shoot to kill. I really hate only injuring an animal instead of a quick, clean kill.

          I think shotguns are a bit misunderstood by non-gun users. They look and sound big and nasty but are pretty harmless. I know two people that have been shot with a shotgun, one is an old friend of my dads who had a shotgun go off into his armpit while climbing through a fence and one was a guy I knew from school who was shot at by a crazy person with a shotgun while he was riding his dirtbike near his property. Both escaped serious harm (although dads mate has some pretty severe scarring), the guy on the motorbike didn't even know he was shot till he got home and noticed he had a couple of pellets in him.

        • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 18:37

          @Spic3y:

          Thanks for the answer. I was actually trying to continue the chain of though that @Miikeboyle wrote about: feral pigs.

          As you put it, a noisy shotgun may sound scary but for a thick wild feral pig I want devastating penetration, hence the choice of 7.62

          Note: I couldn't put my comment in the thread, where I wanted before … but I got your balanced, informative answers. Cheers

        • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 18:43

          @Miikeboyle:

          Trying to get my query in the right place (sorry posters for all the extra unnecessary "noise"):

          Cannot get it to work, sorry again. Over and out

    • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 18:47

      One more try …
      As you sound as having experience with feral pigs, I'll ask:

      Wouldn't a 7.62 bullet will be more effective?
      More practical?
      Less noisy?
      Smaller, lighter to carry?

      That is what I saw in use overseas.
      Hence my question, what would be better: a shotgun? single hi-velocity bullet?

      PS: Excluding/ignoring local/current regulation for firearms, of course.

  • Stab on 06/10/2017 - 09:12
    +8

    We have a highly regulated licensed legal firearms industry who uses this class of firearm for competition and conservation. Don't buy into the rhetoric being spouted by our very powerful anti-licensed-firearm lobby. There are millions of legal licensed firearms in Australia used by constantly police-vetted shooters and statistically they are no threat to anyone. In 150 years there is no record of a lever action shotgun being used in a crime in Australia EVER! Illegally imported firearms used by criminals are a different kettle of fish and are the real problem that you see on the news daily. While we carry on about the Adler, criminals are laughing their heads off buying illegally I ported handguns…
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-02/arrests-made-as-police…

  • mobius on 06/10/2017 - 09:35

    These should be taxed heavily like alcohol and cigarettes.

    • nocure on 08/10/2017 - 12:30

      I don't smoke and I don't drink, but I LOVE to shoot.

  • redcreek200 on 06/10/2017 - 09:48
    +1

    I'm sympathetic a little to some wanting guns, but that time has just passed. I used rifles when I was young. We even had a .22 pistol on our property in the pre-regulation days as a "toy".

    Problem now is too many people with issues walking around who are walking timebombs. Just look at the road rage now versus 40 years ago. Far more people around unable to cope and go nuts on others.

    • smux on 08/10/2017 - 02:59

      What do you want then? Ban all firearms?

      • redcreek200 on 08/10/2017 - 12:24

        My own opinion is keep the rules similar to now. That's a reasonable compromise. Personally, yes, I'd prefer even tighter regs but I can accept others feel differently.

  • LFO on 06/10/2017 - 14:44
    +4

    It is quite sad to read the intolerance against firearms shown by most posters.

    So now you cannot advertise items not meant to be "politically correct".
    And who on earth chooses what is politically correct?????
    Mod: Name calling removed.

    We are going the wrong path.

    • [Deactivated] on 08/10/2017 - 23:16

      No, i am not going down the garden path towards gun equality with you.

  • plague69 on 07/10/2017 - 09:25
    +4

    Don't get heated over guns or no guns… Deal or no deal more important. We are OZB, please don't forget.

    It's a shame to see the mods allowing some of these negative based on personal preference… I thought there where regulations on negs

    This is a good price. Buyers of other states please note shipping fee and your local broker fee applicable as well.

    Eg. $20 ship and $75 broker (at Clayton Firearms Victoria)

  • neil aus on 07/10/2017 - 12:12
    +1

    I've selected hide deals from Cleaver Firearms, and this OP, AND NSFW deals, yet it shows up. I'm using a search, last 3 days and hide expired deals. Should I see this in my results still?

    • payton on 07/10/2017 - 17:12

      do you have too many people/entries in your block lists?
      For me that was the reason hidden deals didn't get well, hidden
      IIRC max of 50 entries each

      • neil aus on 07/10/2017 - 21:30

        Would have less than 5 people on my block list.

        Less than 5 stores blocked.

        Does it only block from the home page? I wonder.

    • Moderatorneil on 08/10/2017 - 13:59

      It should block it from new deals and homepage. It won't block it from search or directly coming here.

      In future, please use Talk with a Moderator forum or Site Discussion where we can answer these questions. I only happened to see your comment in passing. Thanks.

      • dealman on 09/10/2017 - 10:24
        -5

        It is obvious that the gun lobby is stacking this vote, can you please check the logs and votes to make sure the vote on the discussion is a true reflection of the community and not just because he encouraged q bunch of people from. Gun crazy mailing lists to up vote the vote.

        MOD: Answered here

  • pixxelpusher on 07/10/2017 - 23:24
    -2

    Any deals on Bazookas and Apache helicopters?

    pixxelpusher on 07/10/2017 - 23:24 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
  • dealman on 09/10/2017 - 00:10
    -7

    OzB should have an official policy about this, you often take a stand for RUOK day and other days, why not take a stand against GUNS !

    Do you like guns ? BAN THESE A$(&^@)$%

    • smux on 09/10/2017 - 09:30
      +3

      I think I'll take a stand against people who have an irrational fear and hatred of firearms and law-abiding firearm owners instead. Why don't you take a stand against criminals and leave firearm owners alone?

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