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Apple iMac Pro with Retina 5K Display 27-Inch 3.2GHz 1TB 8-Core $6569.10 @ JB Hi-Fi (10% off)

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Apple iMac Pro with Retina 5K Display 27-Inch 3.2GHz 1TB 8-Core $6569.10 @ JB Hi-Fi (10% off)
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LMitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 09:55 jbhifi.com.au (1816 clicks)
Last edited 26/01/2018 - 17:27 by 2 other users

This is the first local discount I’ve seen on the new iMac Pro.

10% off the base model with the 8-Core CPU, 1TB SSD and Vega 56 GPU.

From the listing:

Overview

Now everyone from video editors to 3D animators to musicians and software developers can turn big ideas into amazing work like never before. iMac Pro is powered by an Intel Xeon W processor with 8 cores for incredible performance. Its Radeon Pro Vega graphics chip lets you build and render amazingly lifelike special effects and VR worlds. And with 32GB of memory and 1TB of flash storage, projects load and save almost instantly. Introducing iMac Pro, the most powerful Mac ever.

Key Features

27-inch (diagonal) Retina 5K display
5120‑by‑2880 resolution with support for 1 billion colours
8 Core Xeon W processor
Radeon Pro Vega 56 graphics with 8GB of HBM2 memory
32GB of memory
1TB of storage
Four Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) ports
Four USB 3 ports
SDXC card slot
10Gb Ethernet
3.5-mm headphone jack
Stereo speakers / Four microphones

Technical specifications
Go to www.apple.com/au/imac-pro/specs for a complete set.

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  • atleeit on 26/01/2018 - 10:00
    +38

    Lol you would never waste this much Money ha

    • gummibear on 26/01/2018 - 10:10
      +5

      Any explanation for why this is too much money? Or a waste of money?

      Or is this a trolling post?

        • haydio on 26/01/2018 - 11:17
          +10

          Find an equivalent better valued workstation then.

        • Mitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 11:26
          +67

          Once you factor in the included 5K display, ongoing support and running costs it's much better value than you give it credit for. This is a machine for making money, not posting clips to Facebook from iMovie.

          If you're running a post production house time is money. You'd make the cost of this machine back in a single job.

        • OzBrogains on 26/01/2018 - 11:33
          +37

          @Sir Casm: No you were just part of the anti-Apple circlejerk but got called out on it with reasoning.

        • Hunter80 on 26/01/2018 - 11:33
          +10

          Found someone who doesn’t believe in rational discussion, would rather disparage others and go with mob mentality…

          I don’t know much, don’t have good point to make, but will still open my a** and spread stink..

        • t25 on 26/01/2018 - 11:53
          +1

          @Mitch889: Even for a home power user, you might consider this over the 27" iMac. Sure it is overkill, but Macs do last a fairly long time. My last mac lasted me 3 years until I maxed out the RAM, another 5 years before I upgraded too SSD and almost had a clean run with a machine that cost roughly the same as a windows PC back in the day.

        • Mitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 12:01
          +7

          @t25:

          Not sure I agree, most home users would be more than taken care of with a base 27 inch iMac, possibly with a RAM (and maybe SSD) upgrade. This is almost three times the price, you could literally buy a whole new iMac every 3 years.

        • Pornboy69er on 26/01/2018 - 12:37
          +13

          @Sir Casm: Just stop.

        • gummibear on 26/01/2018 - 12:47

          PC or Mac users can equally ask the same question. Nothing 'fanboi' at all about my post.

          Posting opinion without evidence to back it up doesn't serve the wider community. If atleeit doesn't think it's good value then getting a valid explanation would benefit everyone in their purchasing decision.

        • The Araldited Wallet on 26/01/2018 - 12:55
          +2

          @Sir Casm: "As an apple user"… Translated. I once borrowed my little sister's iPod shuffle without her consent.

        • giventofly on 26/01/2018 - 13:20

          @Mitch889:

          Yup, it's a niche product.

          My main gripe is for the money they could have made it more of a pro machine but reducing the bezels. Would prefer that over space grey

        • gummibear on 26/01/2018 - 13:49
          +1

          @Sir Casm:
          I think the number of deals posted is irrelevant to validity of points made.

          If you don't agree with someone make your point, then back it up with facts. If your argument is good there's no need to resort to attacking the individual.

        • [Deactivated] on 26/01/2018 - 14:03
          -5

          @gummibear:

          GB, the point is those who pretend to be forum police quite often haven't posted many/any deals, but want to call others out for their particular brand of shit/posting - whatever - while that's not explicitly disallowed, it reeks of hypocrisy.

        • Bloo5869 on 26/01/2018 - 14:32
          +7

          @haydio:

          https://www.pccasegear.com/wish_lists/790521

          There you go.. 1 terabyte more of storage, M.2 SSD, dual 4k 42 inch screens, faster processor, everything else more or less equivalent.. and you get change from your $6500, that build coming in at $5799.. so you arent paying for a half eaten piece of fruit logo..

          I understand some people think building a rig from scratch is difficult and they just want an out of box experience.. but really can you put a square peg in a square hole?? If yes, then you can build a computer…

        • AustriaBargain on 26/01/2018 - 14:46

          @Mitch889: though if you can afford it then it’ll make a fine Facebook machine too.

        • eggboi on 26/01/2018 - 15:08

          @Mitch889: super simple to build a hackintosh for a quarter of this price. They are 100% reliable if you get the right parts. The only reason i ever moved from hackintosh to an actual macbook was portability.

        • Mitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 15:39
          +1

          @bohdud:

          I’m running an i7 8700K hac with an LG 38UC99…

          But if this had been out when I built it I would have seriously considered it.

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 17:03

          @Mitch889:

          Yeah, sure.
          That's the normal step-up for people. From a $3000 machine to a $6500 machine.

        • gavincato on 26/01/2018 - 17:33
          +5

          @Bloo5869:

          That is not the same Xeon as the imac.

          They may be larger screens but not as good.

          The SSD is nowhere near as fast as the imac one. You are talking 500mb per sec vs 3000-3500.

          it's not ECC ram.

          There are other bits as well. and don't forget resell.

          I'm not a apple guy, I have a pretty serious PC I built but don't hate on the imac for the hell of it. It's a pretty damn good piece of gear.

        • Mitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 17:56

          @smuggler:

          Bit over $4k actually. The display alone is $2k.

          If you'd read my comment, you would have seen that I said I'd have considered it if it was out when I needed my machine. It wasn't, so I went with a different option. My system is pretty stable, but still a bit more finicky than an iMac Pro would be, and if I was buying today I'd go with the iMac Pro, and earn that $2.5k back on the next job.

        • Mikeer on 26/01/2018 - 19:22

          @gavincato:

          Xeon W-2145 clocks more than double over the old E3 in benchmarks…

        • deadpoet on 26/01/2018 - 20:39

          @bohdud: which guide would you recommend for building a reliable hackintosh? The fiddliness and unreliability is what has put me off in the past, if it's true that you can make a rock-solid Hackintosh nowadays then I'd be keen to try it.

        • OzBrogains on 26/01/2018 - 21:00

          @Sir Casm: I found some deals on cow manure at Bunnings but you're giving it away for free with your comments.

        • srhardy on 26/01/2018 - 21:22
          +1

          @t25:

          I built a tower, 8 core ryzen, water, 32gb, 500gb SSD 1080ti (more stuff) and a 30" wide screen with audio, the whole lot $3500

          hard pressed to see the value but I do agree a 24/27" can be bought cheap and with 16gb and a SSD upgrade its still good for years and I cant say that for my other computers

      • AustriaBargain on 26/01/2018 - 14:45

        For the specs the price is about right. And factor in the screen quality and form factor, then no one else even offers the same package never mind selling it for less. Plus it’ll let Crysis on high settings.

      • Icecold5000 on 26/01/2018 - 18:32

        Really depends on how much money you earn.

      • supersabroso on 27/01/2018 - 00:06

        Lol are you trolling or just brainwashed? This is the worst deal ever, you can get a better Windows computer at less than half this price! What does 5k have that 4k doesn't? Worth having it when you can buy 4x 4k monitors? 3.2Ghz? Intel released this "cutting edge" speed last decade in 2008! 1TB SSD? I got that 2 years ago for $360 delivered, you can bet that Apple is easily charging double that, enough to buy a 2TB SSD now.

        Bottom line, don't buy this ancient, outdated piece of tech just because Apple decided that their computers should remain 4x the cost of their most expensive phone.

        I still remember when Apple claimed that Samsung was crazy and that 3.5" is the perfect screen size. 3 years later….hold on a sec, I know we're way late to the party but maybe we should start doing what everybody else was doing 3 years ago. We'll slap an apple on it, bam! Now we can sell for double what it's worth! They are at least 5 years behind on computers, selling at minimum, double the value of equivalent tech.

        • gummibear on 27/01/2018 - 01:18
          +3

          you can get a better Windows computer at less than half this price!

          Some people have specific needs to use MacOS. How would a windows PC at even half price benefit them?

          What does 5k have that 4k doesn't?

          4K = 3840 × 2160 = 8,294,400 pixels
          5K = 5120 x 2880 = 14,745,600 pixels

          I'd say it doesn't have 6,451,200 pixels. plus the ability to view 4k content with tools palettes on the same screen simultaneously, as other have pointed out

          Worth having it when you can buy 4x 4k monitors?

          No idea, you'd have to ask someone that makes their livelihood from content production to answer that question.

          3.2Ghz? Intel released this "cutting edge" speed last decade in 2008!

          CPU frequency is not everything, do you remember the days when the pentium 4 was up against the AMD opterons? The Xeon W is quite different from any xeon from 2008 I would imagine judging by a brief read of https://www.anandtech.com/show/11775/intel-launches-xeon-w-c…

          1TB SSD? I got that 2 years ago for $360 delivered, you can bet that Apple is easily charging double that, enough to buy a 2TB SSD now.

          I had a quick look for work stations that have 2Tb SSDs and only found dell and HP going up to 1TB. I'd say when comparing this Vs other workstations storage options it's not any worse. Is your home computer a workstation?

          Bottom line, don't buy this ancient, outdated piece of tech just because Apple decided that their computers should remain 4x the cost of their most expensive phone.

          I'd say most of your points aren't fact based, I'd be happy for you to put up some facts to backup your opinion.

          I still remember when Apple claimed that Samsung was crazy and that 3.5" is the perfect screen size. 3 years later….hold on a sec, I know we're way late to the party but maybe we should start doing what everybody else was doing 3 years ago. We'll slap an apple on it, bam! Now we can sell for double what it's worth! They are at least 5 years behind on computers, selling at minimum, double the value of equivalent tech.

          Do you remember the early days of portable MP3 players? Apple came late to the party with the original iPod and bam! killed the market within a few years. You can stil buy iPods but no creative Nomads, Microsoft Zunes, iRiver anythings.

          Do you remember when all the tablet vendors were fighting for dominance until Apple released the iPad? Bam! they walked in and became the dominant vendor in terms of market share. I think they were around 90% at some point.

          Do you remember when people were rocking brick phones or semi smart phones with poor touch interfaces, then Apple dropped the iPhone? Bam! they killed the market and everyone was scrambling to work out how to make a decent smart phone immediately afterwards.

          My point is, being first to market with anything isn't the be all and end all.

          By the way I run windows 10 and have never owned a Mac. I do like to follow the tech industry though.

        • gummibear on 27/01/2018 - 03:04
          +2

          @jackary:

          You’re an idiot - and before jumping down someone else’s throat; make sure your own drivel contains some semblance of fact.

          I wasn't jumping down anyone's throat. I was putting up some facts.

          Jumping down someone's throat would probably require me to label them and idiot and accuse them of drivel.

          I'm glad you put up some examples as that's what discourse should be about. By the way, what was factually incorrect about what I wrote?

        • jackary on 27/01/2018 - 05:35
          -1

          @gummibear: No you weren’t putting up some facts. You were being rude and a smart ass. Do you feel validated berating a complete random on the internet? But sure thing, as requested I’ll gladly mull over each factual inaccuracy from the top (and with the same level of vitriol you directed to the earlier commenter):

          Some people have specific needs to use MacOS. How would a windows PC at even half price benefit them?

          Like what in 2018? Logic Pro X? It’s shit. Apple Pages? Also shit. Any more straws to clasp at?

          CPU frequency is not everything, do you remember the days when the pentium 4 was up against the AMD opterons? The Xeon W is quite different from any xeon from 2008

          Why yes they are different! After a decade you’d hope so, but Apple do have quite the penchant for using old processors (as they do on the Mac Mini and MacBook Air with almost decrepit 5th gen Intel processors - so it was a fair question to ask)

          Too bad the Xeons have already been comprehensively bested in every measurable way (including CPU freq.) with the Intel Core i9, before the iMac Pro was even released. Oh well, only $6500 wasted.

          You are absolutely right though, CPU frequency isn’t everything. In fact, when you make a $6500 Xeon-filled “Pro” computer, such as this, and then half-ass the heat dissipation, it may as well mean jack shit. Google “thermal throttling”, or just ask any Microsoft Surface owner what I’m on about.

          Do you remember when all the tablet vendors were fighting for dominance until Apple released the iPad? Bam! I think they were around 90% market share at one point.

          No, I don’t remember that because it simply never happened.

          Do you remember when people were rocking brick phones or semi smart phones with poor touch interfaces, then Apple dropped the iPhone? Bam! they killed the market and everyone was scrambling to work out how to make a decent smart phone immediately afterwards.

          Nope I dont remember - I don’t remember Apple “killing the market”, because, again, they never did - What I do remember is that they took an original idea from Motorola (the ROKR E1). The original iPhone wasnt even available here. Nor do I recall the poor touch interfaces - are you referring to the LG Prada which was released 3 months before the first iPhone? Or are you making an unfair comparison to early versions of Windows Mobile, which had been on the market in that form for years before the iPhone was even as much as an FCC filing? More things I remember is Apple stifling the rest of the market, every year after the initial release, with frivilous patents which were either too broad to be granted, or were outright stolen from other products. Examples include Multitouch, swipe scrolling, and the home grid layout of square icons - yes, Apple either has, or previously held, patents on each of these. This is not to suggest other companies aren’t patent trolling, but Apple are particularly fierce.

          My point is, being first to market with anything isn't the be all and end all.

          It should be if said company patented the product; and own the IP. Ask LG how that worked for them…

          The iMac pro, much like the equally eternally horrid Mac Pro, are overpriced, outdated flops. To summarise Apple in 2018: It’s overpriced, usually proprietary hardware, almost always behind a force field of pentalobe screws, glue, built in obsolescence, “warranty void if removed” stickers, and soldered I/O. Then, it’s shoved into a chassis far too small, with absolutely zero room for further expansion, with somehow even less room with which to dissipate heat.

          SO, can all of you “creative professionals” get your rocks out of your friggin head? I have worked as a desktop publisher for over a decade and have never seen an iMac, or Mac of any variant, sitting on a desk in any office I’ve worked in, ever. We use HP Z1’s however Xeon Dell’s are pretty much the standard issue in most firms. Macs don’t play nicely in windows-only networking setups, particularly where printing or using group share folders are concerned. At the kernel level OSX has a seriously flawed implementation of NTFS. All of the above make them entirely useless in a corporate or business environment. These ridiculously priced computers are bought by three groups of people: Those who don’t know any better, those who just want the most expensive Mac available for the status, and the “creative want-to-be professionals” - think Fan fiction writers, barely amateur photographers, buzzfeed journalists, and the soon-to-be-18 “DJ Jazzy Zazz” getting ready to drop his heaps sick new banga mastered using a set of beats by dre from his $6500 iMac. That kinda thing.

          Real professionals have common sense. And an IT purchaser who knows better. There is nothing that makes this computer special.

          OH, and to also summarise my own computer preferences: I own several macs, a 2017 15” rMPB, a slightly older 27” 5K iMac, and a 2015 (I think?) BTO 11” MBA which I use in lieu of an iPad. I made my purchases based on perceived build quality and value, nothing more - both the MacBook Pro and iMac that the new ones replaced were from 2009 (and still functional) making for a very favourable total cost of ownership. No other reason really, not particularly invested in the OS or any of apples exosystems.

          The fact that there are no other all in one systems with reasonably comparable hardware to this iMac Pro should not be seen as an indicator that Apple are breaking new ground, filling some kind of niche in the market - it shouldn’t, and they aren’t. It’s all 2017-era hardware. I’d argue that the niche simply isn’t there. OEMS like Dell, HP and Lenovo/IBM have competed in the supposed “business/professional” segment of the market for decades, and if none of the above will sell you something comparable… it suggests it’s a computer nobody really wants.

          Take care.
          Jack

        • gummibear on 28/01/2018 - 01:59

          @jackary:
          Alrighty then, time to get back to the discourse.

          berating a complete random on the internet?

          If I disagree with someone and back myself up that does not equal berating. Sometimes I get into internet disagreements and the other person learns something, sometimes I learn something. So long as the discussion is fact based then we all benefit (including those that only read the comments).

          Like what in 2018? Logic Pro X? It’s shit. Apple Pages? Also shit. Any more straws to clasp at?

          I'm sure there are people out there that have different Mac specific needs to you, which might even include apps other than Logic Pro X or Apple Pages. That's their business what they use it for. My point still stands. If such people need specific Mac apps, how will a windows PC benefit them as supersabroso suggested? Should they buy a PC and be happy to not use their desired apps?

          Too bad the Xeons have already been comprehensively bested in every measurable way (including CPU freq.) with the Intel Core i9, before the iMac Pro was even released. Oh well, only $6500 wasted.

          From the anandtech link I posted regarding the Xeon W used in the iMac Pro I read this
          "In essence, these are Xeon versions of the current Skylake-X (Core i9) processors with all the pro features enabled, such as the extended memory support, vPro, Intel’s AMT, and the standard enterprise Reliability, Serviceability and Availability (RAS) features"

          You are absolutely right though, CPU frequency isn’t everything. In fact, when you make a $6500 Xeon-filled “Pro” computer, such as this, and then half-ass the heat dissipation(iphone.appleinsider.com), it may as well mean jack shit.

          I'm not really keen to start second guessing Apple's reasoning for their engineering decisions as we start to stray away from facts. Though i'd say the "Pro" term is to suggest the iMac is better than the standard iMac. When the Mac Pro eventually arrives I'd guess that would be focused on raw power and less focused on low fan noise and we can assume faster than the iMac Pro.

          I don’t remember that because it simply never happened.

          I remember reading the headline about 90% years ago and had to dig a bit to find where the headline came from. I found this Make of it as you like.

          I don’t remember Apple “killing the market”

          I think I might have been a bit generous with that one. They certainly had a lot of hype and a lot of copycat interfaces as you alluded to with regards to patents.

          It should be if said company patented the product; and own the IP. Ask LG how that worked for them

          I am not a guru in this area, but anyone reading can jump in.
          patents are for things like manufacturing processes, trademarks are for products. I'm guessing you are referring to LG OLED patents.
          Your point about LG suggests they are benefiting because they pioneered a technology? Which is a different topic to my examples which were about products.
          My point was in response to supersaboro might be better posed as a question. "why aren't apple allowed to come late to the party?".

          The later paragraphs I won't comment on as that's your own opinion and arguing opinions tends to go no where.

    • bchliu on 26/01/2018 - 21:13
      +1

      Just thinking what six and a half grand will get you from MSY? hmmm..

  • ipiok on 26/01/2018 - 10:05
    +11

    I'm not an apple supporter, but to be fair, being able to fit all that new hardware into an all in one form factor is quite impressive.

    • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 10:11
      +21

      What's so impressive? All those components are fairly small anyway.
      The GPU is the biggest part and it's fairly thin to begin with. Strip off the cooler and it'll sit nicely under a fan.

      $6.5k and only a 1TB storage drive. They must be smoking something

      This may be an error that won’t be honoured, but it’s the first discount I’ve seen on the new iMac Pro.

      Really? It's already overpriced to begin with.

      • maxwellian on 26/01/2018 - 10:25
        +11

        Sure, you can fit it into an even smaller chassis if you never turn it on. The components within this all operate stupidly hot and require far more than a simple fan to keep it cool.

        1TB would be plenty enough storage for many who use this level of machine, the sort of people who have the cost of this computer again in external high speed/high density storage.

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 10:27

          1TB would be plenty enough storage for many who use this level of machine, the sort of people who have the cost of this computer again in external high speed/high density storage.

          Now that I think about it, this type of computer would have access to network storage.

          The components within this all operate stupidly hot and require far more than a simple fan to keep it cool.

          Then why do they only use fans and thermal pads? It's not water-cooled.

        • maxwellian on 26/01/2018 - 10:30
          -2

          @smuggler:
          No it isn't, but I'm sure that a lot of effort was put into engineering the chassis to permit/promote appropriate airflow for the most efficient cooling involving component placement, fan/air routing etc. Maybe I wasn't elaborate enough, I was more meaning just grabbing a fan and pointing it at the chassis wont cool it.

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 10:38

          @maxwellian:

          https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Pro+Teardown/101807

          Doesn't seem like they did anything new. Very much the same design as other all-in-ones with big GPUs. Dual fan coolers with exhaust at the back.

        • RedHab on 26/01/2018 - 11:27
          +2

          @smuggler: Thanks that teardown is informative, especially:

          Intel Xeon W-2140B (Skylake, 14 nm—likely an underclocked W-2145 to keep the temps in check)

          Perhaps a another Apple victory of style over substance?

          Still it is an Apple, so it looks cool and runs OSX which is nice.

        • jaypick on 26/01/2018 - 12:28

          @RedHab:

          macOS

        • JoJoker on 26/01/2018 - 21:07
          +1

          @smuggler:

          Unlikely to be cutting from the network. A multicam 4k project requires 10G network (that's expensive) and 10G storage accessible from multiple points by multiple users (VERY expensive). More likely to be external, local, high-speed storage.

      • Andrew-Rox22 on 26/01/2018 - 10:44
        +1

        1TB flash would be SSD https://www.pccasegear.com/products/30450/samsung-850-evo-1t…

        Too rich for me though haha

      • Mitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 12:25
        +2

        “Really? It's already overpriced to begin with.”

        Get over it mate, it’s obviously not for you.

        I see endless deals on this site that I’m not interested in. I don’t bother commenting, interesting that you do.

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 14:43

          Get over it mate, it’s obviously not for you.

          On the contrary, we use these at work for certain purposes. They're still expensive and hurt our budgets for what we get in return.

          I personally don't use them a lot.

      • daven1985 on 26/01/2018 - 14:32
        +1

        No actually.

        Because anyone who actually uses this for production work would have it's 10GB Ethernet connected and save to a NAS or SAN.

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 14:45
          +1

          Yes, true.

          I just thought about it and the only thing I save to my local hard drive at work are downloads from the web and attachments in emails.

        • daven1985 on 27/01/2018 - 08:15

          @smuggler:

          Downloads yes, email attachments, they save into a OneDrive location for me. I believe in working in a way that if my computer die's I loose nothing.

      • no not me on 26/01/2018 - 17:00
        +1

        It’s a workstation. You’ll find Dell’s and Lenovo’s at high price points too. Buying a PC like this isn’t a big deal for a big photography/videography studio where people spend $40K on a video camera. It’s not for the average Joe browsing OzBargain and watching crap on YouTube.

        • jackary on 27/01/2018 - 02:54

          Oh really? Because that’s sure now how Apple are marketing it - as per Apples iMac Pro page: “For everyone from photographers to video editors to 3D animators to musicians to software developers to scientists, iMac Pro is ready to turn your biggest ideas into your greatest work.”

        • no not me on 27/01/2018 - 03:16

          @jackary: they’re not really wrong though. Sure those groups can use it, but it’s massive overkill. Just like buying Alienware for playing something like CS:GO, yet it happens quite a lot. My point is really that having a 5K display with 10 bit colour and wide gamut are not for the average piss taker. It’s for skid colour reproduction and you’ll pay a pretty penny for it. (I’m pretty sure it’s 10 bit, I expect so since the 15” MBPs are)

          Additionally, this is one of those pretty rare times where Apple is delivering really good value for money, compared to competitors. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6g2wkb/imac_pro_is_n…

        • jackary on 27/01/2018 - 07:10
          +1

          @no not me: Sure. But an Alienware laptop is what.. 2k? This is 6.5k…

          Anyway. First and foremost, this is not a workstation. It’s an All-in-One. I don’t care what Apple call it (it they do indeed call it that) - It is an all in one despite their best efforts to reinvent a (profanity) form factor.

          So evidently this is a game of perceived value, one that I, and I’d like to think any other objective human being on earth, would recognise is simply not there.

          First, you tried to establish value by talking up that 5K 10bit display. Sure OK. Now stop for a second and remember you can get the exact same 5K panel in a regular 27” iMac for a third of the price. Never mind that the 2017 model 13 AND 15 inch MacBook Pro displays are almost 20% brighter, even denser per square inch of display, and have the exact same 100% P3 gamut coverage over the iMac Pro. So nothing new here. If anything, a step backwards. Moving on…

          Then, you tried to establish value by saying it was priced better than its competitors. Well I’m not sure I’d take a reddit user posting a build to order summary… from god knows where…in a forum… in a currency not even my own as gospel. Yeah nah thanks. As I said above, I think a Windows PC with similar specs is hard to find because it’s a niche in the market that doesn’t exist IRL. Who needs all of these full on specs in an all-in-one chassis?

          I won’t even go into the woeful heat dissipation specs but strap yourself in for a ride on the thermal throttle! I dare say this problem is in part the reason why no other OEM has shipped something similar. A processor hovering around 93°C at idle, and throttling back after less than 10 seconds at full load is unacceptable.

          The iMac Pro will be bought purely by people with more money than sense, who’ve convinced themselves they need more power without any real world use case for it (as you suggested) - OR by the ever faithful “Apple devotee”, who really just wants one because it’s the only way to get a Space Grey magic keyboard and mouse. We all know one.

          But hey if you can find value in a $6500 computer, containing the display from a computer half its price, despite it throttling the CPU almost immediately, and despite the fact that it’s foolheartedly advertised as a “Pro grade Mac with server grade CPU and ECC RAM” despite carrying Apples regular old poxy 1 year warranty, then I think you are a fool.

          And I say all of this as what I would imagine to be the target market for one. I work in the print industry, and I already own an iPhone or 50 and have the usual slew of macs. And yet I never gave this a second look. Because I just don’t care. Much like the iPhone X, the price (to me anyway) is not equal to the sum of its parts - rather it’s a reflection of status - “oh hey look at the notch on my iPhone X”, “hey guys, check this iMac Pro out its space grey so it’s cooler than a normal Mac”

        • no not me on 27/01/2018 - 09:33

          @jackary: I think you’re overlooking things.

          If you’ve ever built a workstation, you’d know it’s easy to fork out $1K on ECC RAM. I spent $300 on a single 16GB stick and that was the best price anywhere in Australia and indeed better than having it shipped from Amazon, RAM which is slower than what’s in the iMac Pro. When you need ECC, as many do on a workstation or fullproof storage server, you’re then limited to a Xeon or an i3 (there’s also a few Pentiums to throw into the mix). Obviously, nobody is going to build an Pentium/i3 workstation. This means you’re stuck with Xeons, which also have a premium because they allow for features such as dual processor (not cores), ECC, etc. you cannot use an i5, i7, i9. It also comes with a PCIe SSD, research the prices on those and you’ll see that’s what, another $800 for 1TB, slightly more. Now have a look at 10 gigabit Ethernet, find an Intel card that’s cheap - they don’t exist, in any brand, let alone Intel. Realtek, if they make one would be totally unreliable, like all Realtek Ethernet controllers. 10 gigabit Ethernet cards all drive like $500+. So there’s almost $2K spent and there’s no GPU (let alone a non-gaming GPU with ECC), motherboard, display, power supply, etc. covered.

          I’m in the same boat as you though – I’d never even consider purchasing this. But it’s just like the Mac Pro, people gave it shit about the price point, despite it being good value at release when compared to similarly configured hardware from other OEMs. I also wouldn’t buy a Mac Pro. I don’t need a workstation nor do I need GPUs with ECC which also cost a tonne more. I also wouldn’t buy an iPhone X, because it’s simply not worth the money. I’m still using a 6s without issue for the third year now and don’t have plan to change that. But there’s a market for people who need these machines. I don’t think professionals want throw $7K on a workstation for a laugh. When you need ECC, 10 gigabit Ethernet, etc. you need it. And you need this things in scientific applications, statistics and when handling large amounts of sensitive data, among other things.

          There’s always going to be some clown who buys this to browse Facebook or watch Netflix. Just like here’s the guy who spend $5K on a home server with 128GB of ECC RAM, these are the people with more money than sense. But I don’t think they’re the target market, if they were, things like the $18K Apple Watch Edition wouldn’t have been a major flop, but it was because nobody thought it was worth it, excluding a few money wasters.

      • no not me on 27/01/2018 - 03:18

        It’s cheaper than competing products. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/6g2wkb/imac_pro_is_n…

    • imahapyboy on 26/01/2018 - 11:22

      not really, you must new to IT

      • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 17:01
        -1

        You've added a whole lot to the discussion. You must find words hard to use.

  • Wokstar on 26/01/2018 - 10:10
    +6

    Hurry someone broden it!

  • ONEMariachi on 26/01/2018 - 10:12

    What supports 5K at the moment?

    • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 10:14
      +5

      Big photos and those cinematic cameras used for film.

      You don't buy a 5k screen to watch 3rd party content on it. This is meant for content creators.

      • tromboc on 26/01/2018 - 10:21
        +3

        content creators who aren't paying for their own hardware**

        FTFY

        This is meant as a tax write-off only… You can put together all those parts for less than half the cost it just won't have an apple logo.

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 10:25

          This is meant as a tax write-off only… You can put together all those parts for less than half the cost it just won't have an apple logo.

          This is meant for developers and business. It's not a machien consumers would readily buy. A lot of equipment for R&D and business use is tax deductible.

          You clearly don't understand that a lot of content creation companies use software only available on Apple computers. A silly gaming computer running Windows 10 is useless to these people.

        • maxwellian on 26/01/2018 - 10:27
          +4

          Proof? And tax-write off =/= free. At best a tax write off for this would get them just shy of 50% off if they are claiming 100% business usage as a private business expense. Y'all really enjoy talking out of your Arses

        • tromboc on 26/01/2018 - 10:31
          +8

          @smuggler:

          You clearly don't understand that a lot of content creation companies use software only available on Apple computers.

          Well you clearly don't understand that Apple software is not limited to running on Apple computers…

          This is meant for developers and business.

          Thankyou for clarifying my point.

          A silly gaming computer running Windows 10 is useless to these people.

          This is a silly gaming computer running OSX

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 10:33

          @tromboc:

          No, it isn't. Who would buy a Xeon computer with Vega graphics to play games?

          Well you clearly don't understand that Apple software is not limited to running on Apple computers…

          What's the alternative?
          The industry-standard HEVC (H.265) is able to be encoded much faster and rendered better on the MacOS platform.

        • tromboc on 26/01/2018 - 10:34
          +5

          @maxwellian:

          Yeah. I've NEVER claimed a deduction or have ANY idea how the tax system works. Thanks for making a general assumption about my intelligence.

          Irrelevant.

          There are very few valid reasons this sort of cash and it's either
          1. Lazy and wealthy (rare combo) that just wants a turn-key solution that'll be out of date in a few years anyway, or
          2. It's a business expense anyway so it's not as expensive as it seems…

        • tromboc on 26/01/2018 - 10:35

          @tromboc:

          i'm tapping out. why the (profanity) am i wasting time arguing about "who will buy this computer".

          ciao

        • Namesareapain on 26/01/2018 - 11:49
          +3

          @smuggler: What software?!
          Last I checked very little was macOS only (the only ones I can think of are Final Cut and Logic).

          Also hardly a smart move putting a RAID 0 array in it.

          "The industry-standard HEVC (H.265) is able to be encoded much faster and rendered better on the MacOS platform."
          BULLSHIT!

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 11:59
          -4

          @Namesareapain:

          "The industry-standard HEVC (H.265) is able to be encoded much faster and rendered better on the MacOS platform."
          BULLSHIT!

          oh please all it takes is a youtube video to show you the comparison between Adobe Premiere and Final Cut

        • ONEMariachi on 26/01/2018 - 12:46
          +4

          @smuggler: Mate you're living in the early 2000's if you think there is any performance difference between MacOS and Windows now. IT's been been irrelevant for a long time now. Congrats on trying to use Youtube as a relaible source for anything though!

        • smuggler on 26/01/2018 - 16:40
          -3

          @ONEMariachi:

          Mate you're living in the early 2000's if you think there is any performance difference between MacOS and Windows now

          It's not the performance of the OS. I am talking about rendering and editing software which is exclusive to MacOS.

          I have both MacOS and Windows. The MacOS renders videos faster. Fact…

          Youtube is a reliable source, especially when the video creators are professionals in their field. Stop acting like you know better than the people who work in this area of work every day.

        • corbz on 26/01/2018 - 17:13
          +2

          @tromboc:

          You expect a company with deadlines and high stakes to be using hackintosh machines without reliable updates or support?

        • gavincato on 26/01/2018 - 17:35
          -2

          @tromboc

          Less than 50% the cost for a xeon / ecc ram / 1tb crazy fast ssd / 5k screen / decent graphics???

          good luck with that

        • ONEMariachi on 26/01/2018 - 20:32
          +2

          @smuggler: Can you name any of this supposed software? I actually work in a production environment. People here use whichever ecosystem they want, based on whatever they are comfortable and no one is mentioning any issues at all. Provide the evidence or shut up mate. Cos so far you're talking out of your arse.

        • JoJoker on 26/01/2018 - 21:12

          @ONEMariachi:

          We have a lot of editors that greatly prefer MacOS and work faster on it because every other production house uses it so they're familiar with it.

        • ONEMariachi on 26/01/2018 - 21:36
          +1

          @JoJoker: That's completely fine I have several people in my organisation that say the same thing, not what I'm arguing though. If it is a preference thing, that's completely a valid choice- what I've yet to see evidence for is that they work "better" on a mac, compared to a PC that has the same specs. This hasn't been true for several years now.

        • jackary on 27/01/2018 - 03:07
          +1

          @smuggler: With the exclusion of Logic Pro which is absolute rubbish anyway, please name one piece of software aimed at “content creators” that is only available on a Mac.

        • Namesareapain on 27/01/2018 - 10:26

          @smuggler: Those are video editors, not h.265 encoders!
          There is much more to video exporting than just basic encoding (and do those programs even use the same h.265 encoder and quality?????).

    • hammo on 26/01/2018 - 11:56
      +8

      5k is for editing 4k content and still having room for the toolbars around the edges of the content.

      • supersabroso on 27/01/2018 - 00:26
        -1

        That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard when you can get 4x 4k monitors for the same price. Unfortunately they probably won't be compatible with Apple computers due to money grabbing issues.

        Even basic office folk use 2 monitors. Professional video editors should be using 4.

        • hammo on 29/01/2018 - 16:28

          Pro-tip: Save time by not getting annoyed at things not aimed at you.

          This machine has a narrow focus for certain people. Just be happy that it's for someone, as it's obviously not you. As best I can see, it's not for me either, but I can see that it's a good thing, well packaged and presented and is fully supported by one company.

        • supersabroso on 29/01/2018 - 17:22

          @hammo: Not upset, just dumbfounded by the money people will waste due to good advertising by Apple.

          However I needed to let people know that buying a 5K monitor at $2k for the purposes of editing 4k content is absolutely crazy and that they should definitely know the professional world operates on 2x $400 monitors.

    • Usernames on 26/01/2018 - 12:48
      +3

      This machine is 5K so that people can edit 4K video in full resolution, and still have screen real estate to accommodate editing menus, etc.

      Edit, missed comment above.

    • Danthemanz on 26/01/2018 - 18:07

      Ozbargains…

  • billy bass on 26/01/2018 - 10:16
    +34

    headphone jack, nice nice.

  • webtherapist on 26/01/2018 - 10:19

    friend of mine got one, quick tested with light tasks so far and very impressed with its quietness and low tempt, he's gonna test heavy tasks soon and see would it be any issue(s) as the power supply is only … 500W!!!

    • webtherapist on 26/01/2018 - 10:20
      +4

      by the way, you can cut down cost by selling the black lightning cable + keyboard + mouse lol

    • Mitch889 on 26/01/2018 - 10:22
      +6

      Most people massively overestimate their PSU needs when building a machine.

      • webtherapist on 26/01/2018 - 10:24

        I agree, but Apple is very good with integrate all powerful parts into a slim body and still could make them work efficiently lol. the air vents are wider than the normal iMac though, probably for better ventilation

      • MikeKulls on 26/01/2018 - 13:06
        +2

        That's fine because most manufacturers grossly overestimate the power output of their supplies.

      • Autonomic on 26/01/2018 - 13:33

        This one is an all in one though. You're not powering your monitor with your PC's PSU

        • [Deactivated] on 27/01/2018 - 19:12

          The 27" LG Ultrafine draws 140W (of a 200 PSU) and it can throw 85 W of that out to power your Macbook pro.. Realistically the iMac Pro isn't going to draw more than 400 W fully upgraded and packed. It's more likely to thermally throttle before it runs out of power. The big power users in the box would be the CPU and the graphics card, no spinning disks means not much else is using power.

          Most PC's can probably get by with a 300W PSU, 450 if you've got a power-hungry graphics card or TWO. But marketing has convinced people…

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