Yet another deal on OptiPlex 9020 SFF computer.
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Thanks to alz for the Original 20% off Refurb Tech at Selected Sellers @ eBay Deal Post, and remember to use cashback.
That stench of quiet desperation you get when you open the box? That's a freebie.
Were you born a genius, or did you just evolve into one over time?
pre-smacked by office moms
These are well-built, dependable workhorse PCs that are designed to run quietly and reliably for many years, non-stop. They make excellent PCs for basic home use, and you can squeeze in a low-end GPU (1050 Ti works well) for cheap gaming if that's your bag.
Zotac is the way! They make mini version, some of which would fit in these
Agree - we bought one about six months ago, added a HDD and a 1050 and it runs really well. No issues whatsoever.
LP 1050Ti still in $250+ region
will wait for 1150 Ti
Does GPU GTX 550 Ti fit in this computer? Or it requires a special mini GPU? Thx.
Will need a low profile (half height) GPU
GTX550 isn't really much better than a current gen iGPU- you'd almost not bother with that IMHO unless you have it on hand
The 550Ti is much better than the Intel HD Graphics 4600 (the onboard in this PC) and would offer roughly 1.5-2x the performance. To my knowledge they didn't make a low profile version of the 550Ti though so you can't use it in this PC.
Hence why I said current gen iGPUs - the 550Ti comes up as only 18% faster than an Iris 540 integrated GPU on userbenchmark for example, where as the 1050Ti is around 215% faster than the 550Ti
Thanks for explaining that.:)
Will need a low profile (half height) GPU
Only if you want to close the door panel, without cutting a slot in it.
@manic: I have done this with the Dell Optipex 990's (appears to be same internal setup) and installed rx580's.
Why not just buy a bigger case?
Got one and its relatively quiet. Its indeed built for long running, the CPU and intake fan are sealed when I went to go top up the bearings with oil.
However the PSU fan is making a bit of a rattle, yet to get to that.
Nice cheap gaming PC with a gigabyte 1050 ti inside. Undervolted the 4670 by -0.10V in Intel XTU and the CPU runs a lot cooler and quieter under load.
Been running this as my media pc/game streaming/game playing/media streaming box for a while, fantastic value. I added a quadro 660 I had lying around.
Room for another hdd/SSD in these?
Yes I believe another SSD can fit ONTOP of the HDD tray. ALthough not made for it, it should fit.
See here https://www.dell.com/support/article/au/en/aubsd1/sln284518/…
https://kbimg.dell.com/library/legacy/kcswisdom/images/kcswi…
I stuck another SSD on top of the psu with double sided tape
Dammit !!! I only have single sided tape… :(
I presume you will need a splitter for the power plugs?
Yep and an extra sata cable, it has 3 sata plugs on the board
mine got 1 spare branch out from same cable as hdd
very short though .. like 3cm
This is a good value pc
Does this come with a COA? The description only states Windows comes preinstalled.
Anyone know if this is configured for wifi?
No wifi, need a USB adapter
Thanks
I don't believe so. Can add a PCIE wireless card but you would then have no room for a graphics card. Suggest just using USB.
Anyone bought from this seller?
I love these refurbished deals. Especially the deals with SSD. Great for anyone that is on a budget and wants a decent home PC.
Can i use 1080 ti in this machine?
The most powerful card you can buy in low profile is the ASL GTX1050Ti Battle Flag
How would this play PUBG?
It might play it better than some humans
Can you change the case and PSU and out something better in, or are the limitations more than this?
You'd need to make sure the motherboard is compatible with the GPU, other than that it would be fine. But you're really starting to move from "can I do this?" to "should I be doing this?"
Is the motherboard standard and can be relocated to a new case?
Here is a high res photo of the motherboard
I don't see an ATX power connector on it so it must use some proprietary nonsense. You would have to re-use the PSU it came with.
gc won't fit the bottom full pcie 16x right ?
have to slot on the top open ended 4x ?
The motherboard isn't standard, but it is compatible with atx cases. You will have no I/O shield as it is not removable on the case.
You will also need an adapter to use a standard atx power supply, readily available on ebay. Search for Dell 9020 atx adapter it is a 24 to 8 pin connector.
Also note: the fan connectors on the motherboard are a different 5 pin connector. You can also get adapters for a few bucks on ebay, search dell 5 to 4 pin fan adapter
Can it run Crysis?
With a 1050Ti you can run through original crysis pretty damn well at full HD.
I know this is an ongoing joke for many years but I have never played Crysis. I bought the game at an EB Games sale last year and I am actually looking to buy a PC that will run Crysis. This joke has now become a real issue for me!
This, with a 1050TI, will run crysis at 60FPS 1080p.
Awesome machines, chuck in low profile 1050 and you have decent gaming machine.
I'm in need of a new Windows machine, and am interested in something like this.
What would be the next step up from this? Can you get these things with SSD's already in them?
All I really want to play is PUBG, most gaming is done on my PS4 Pro now.
These has SSD's. You could just get a low profile GPU like cdundee said and you can play PUBG
Is this using ddr3 or 4?
ddr3
Dang oos
back in stock
Damn, there were 6 in stock a minute ago, quickly came back here to read comments, two minutes later went to buy and GONE, all SOLD OUT!
There's usually one seller or another with these on eBay.
back in stock
you got ozbargained! :)
Big word of warning here: we have around 100 of these in circulation at my workplace, along with optiplex 9010, 7040, 7050.
Right around the 2 year mark, the Optiplex 9020 SSDs have started failing like clockwork. Failing completely- as in they suddenly get a BIOS error: 'No hard drive detected'.
We've now lost about 25 this way, they're failing at a rate of 2-3 per week, and Dell is refusing to proactively replace the obviously dodgy drives.
The "dodgy" drives are Samsung MP871 2.5 7mm 128gb sata. I'd recommend checking with the seller whether these units contain these drives and if so, considering the high risk of data loss and need for replacement.
2 years of a constant use 128gb sata disk is pretty much the expected lifespan of that disk, 256gb would make it 4 yrs, and 512gb 8 years.
The constant use in an office environment is what makes it fail, if its a read only disk it lasts much longer.
Of course dell is not going to retroactively replace a disk you have used for the majority of its life.
2 years of a constant use 128gb sata disk is pretty much the expected lifespan of that disk, 256gb would make it 4 yrs, and 512gb 8 years.
The constant use in an office environment is what makes it fail, if its a read only disk it lasts much longer.
Could you expand on this? I always thought that SSDs would last longer than HDDs because they aren't relying on mechanical components - how much longer do I likely have left for my 2 year old 256GB SSD with an OS and games installed on it and why does the capacity directly scale with lifespan?
Just google SSD lifespan/endurance and you will get many explanations in great detail.
Short answer, a ssd has data writing/overwriting lifespan limit, the smaller the hhd, the more deleting and re-writing/overwriting.
Yeah i understand what you're thinking but i don't think it's the case in this scenario, they'd start getting read/write errors rather than failing suddenly to such an extreme that they no longer 'exist' in the BIOS
We have many other machines that use this size of SSD and have been in circulation for longer- latitude 7240, 7440, 5440, 7250, 7450 laptops… none of others are failing in this way at all
Dodgy batch I'd say. I've had about 40 HP ProDesk 400 G1's have their 500GB HDD die this year out of ~100. All PCs from the exact same batch.
I have one sitting next to me if anyone has questions about pcie slot configuration or spare ram slots etc
Confirming, this unit definitely has a PCIE slot for a wifi card? Have ordered 2 of these and about to pull the trigger to buy 2 PCIE wifi cards for it.
I have been out of the loop with desktop PC's for many years now, so some advice much appreciated here.
Would the Optilex 9010 SFF be of similar good unit but obviously with less ram and older/slightly slower CPU listed from same seller?
http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&…
Looks fine to me, 3rd generation CPU so decent support for Spectre patches too.
Yes. Older models lack usb3, but 9010 is fine.
Thanks for replies. On the listing it does list USB3, so might have to ask the seller that question to be sure.
CPU is a little slower with older on board graphics, but looks like it uses a bit less power at 77 W instead of 84 W for the i5 4670.
You misread. The 9010 is great. But avoid models before that, e.g. optiplex 990.
@manic: No it says USB 3.0 on the website, and Dell's data sheet mentions USB 3.0 as well.
http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheet…
As you noticed, it says USB 3.0 on the website, and Dell's data sheet mentions 4 x USB 3.0 as well, 2 on front, 2 on rear. My 1st generation i5 system had USB 3.0, would be surprised if the 3rd generation didn't.
http://i.dell.com/sites/doccontent/shared-content/data-sheet…
If the price is right, that machine looks good. With 4GB of RAM I imagine you are not doing anything intensive so you won't worry about speed of the CPU which is still decent. With SSD, you'll find it very snippy.
Oh yeah, your right lol. I thought he meant that the 9010 is an older model to the 9020 but is still a fine unit. Thanks for clarifying.
I got one for my mum while back for $180 with a 256GB SSD, added in an old 4TB hard drive and was very impressed with it for the price.
Do you have the 9010 with the i5 3570 / 4GB RAM model, or the one listed with the i5 4670 and 8GB RAM. Wondering what this would run like with only 4GB RAM for mainly internet browsing with up to 20 tabs open in Chrome?
Sounds like you got a good deal getting the 256GB hhd model after reading the above comments re-120GB SSD failure rates on these.
Get at least 8gb. Chrome is very memory hungry.
Yes, I have similar experience with laptops using windows 10. Was asking question for "Kegsta" who might have same system and also running windows 7P , hoping to get some feedback. Can always upgrade ram in this unit as it's cheaper than the listed one here and sold out anyway.
This or the cheapest Ryzen 2200g you build yourself?
If you can build it yourself for $242, then definitely get the ryzen.
Wouldn't 8GB of DDR4 already be 60% of the cost of this box?
Missed out
back in stock.
I bought one last year still haven't set it up yet, but will eventually make it a PLEX server
Great machine. The only downfall to these are the PSU's die a lot and also the 120GB SSDs seem to fail too. In my experience I've seen quite a few of them die. I'm using an old one. Threw in 16GB and two SSDs and now its my VM test lab machine. 1050TI would be nice but for $200+ probably not worth it.
If anyone is looking at running two HDDs, you can remove the cd drive and place it ontop with double sided tape or velcro. There is just enough room for it to fit but the cabling will be a slight problem but do-able. You'll also need a sata y splitter cable to power both hard drives. You can get yourself a dvd rom hard drive caddy where you slip the ssd in it and replace the dvd drive with it so it fits nicely.
There is enough room for 1x2.5 and 1x3.5 without removing the CD Rom
How often do these PSU die??
I've only ever seen a single PSU failure for these machines, have worked on 500+ over the last few years. Maybe we just had a good batch, but I don't think failure rates are that high.
Our machines don't have the SSDs so not sure there.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9010-SFF-i5-3470-3… model down is insanely cheap ($165 before 20% off), only 1 in stock though.
Also https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-790-SFF-i5-2400-3-… 790 SFF, I believe 2-3 series down but still isn't too bad…
Why don't people bid at office/business auctions to get this kinda stuff rather than eBay though? You can do it online then pick it up if you win.
Interested. Can you please tell me the name of some reputable ones? I only know of Grey's Online and often it's a huge waste of time as people bid the prices up far too high where you could get brand new version of the item for less than they bid for a 2nd hand one.
Usually is larger lots?
Anyone know if the supplied version of Win 7 Pro is 64bit (x64)?
I would assume with 8GB of RAM that it would come with 64 bit.
You can re-install it with 32bit easily although you will be limited to 4GB RAM.
Just head to: https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows7
Just checked the listing and 2 units were back in stock, so I grabbed one. One left!
Can ASUS Strix GTX1060 Nvidia work with this PC?
![[Refurbished] Dell OptiPlex 9020 SFF Core i5-4670 8GB RAM 128GB SSD $242.44 Delivered @ Comptrdude eBay](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/40/394340.jpg?h=4d8f9e20)
LOL - this PC was probably used in a corporate office. I'm guessing it was pre-loathed.