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50% off Panasonic Smart and Quick Charger $29 + Shipping (or Free C&C) @ Bing Lee

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PANASONIC - K-KJ55MCC4TA - ENELOOP SMART & QUICK CHARGER

Recharge up to 2,100 times
Long lasting power
Charges AA and AAA eneloop batteries
Comes with 4x eneloop AA batteries
Charger indicator lights

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    are Aldi rechargeable batteries better, or the Ikea ones?

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    Guys haven't got into the world of eneloop yet and wondering if this is a good buy?

    Also wondering how many cycles do these batteries roughly have?

    • +2 votes

      yes good buy

    • +3 votes

      These are some of the very best quality long lasting and longest charging batteries. I think shelf life is up to 10 years or something crazy like that. These particular type can be charged up to 2100 times and there are some that can be Charged around 500 times if they are the pro batteries. Depends on if black white and different types of end loops. The Ladda batteries from IKEA is the exact same quality from what I have been told or read about.

      • +1 vote

        Thank you.. How about the charger? Good bang for my buck or are there better units out there?

        How long does this charger take to charge up a battery?

        Also I assume I can use the Ikea batteries on this charger is it?

        Apologies for the basic questions!

        • +3 votes

          The charger is probably the lowest end "smart" charger you can get.

          Smart meaning it reads the battery levels and charges them until they're full rather than just charging for a set time period which lowers battery life. So it does the job.

          Any battery brand of same type can be used.

    • +2 votes

      I bought one of these in the last OZBargain deal since I'd never gotten into Eneloops before. Since then I've really enjoyed it. The batteries retain the charge very well which is good if you have an xbox controller that you only use every couple of weeks. The charger looks nice and is easy to use. This model is preferable since it monitors the charge of each battery individually and allows you to charge a battery at anytime. A charge from 0-100% will take around an hour and a half. Overall OP I'd go it. However while the Eneloop batteries are good, I find the performance to be nearly identical to the IKEA Ladda batteries that are much much cheaper, and yes you can use them in this charger.

  • +16 votes

    Bought in last deal, never opened, 10/10 OzBargain.

    • +1 vote

      So you made a Smart & Quick purchase?

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      Same and I just bought another

      • +1 vote

        Can make great gift lol.

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    Need 2400mha

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    +$6 delivery cost for me in SA.

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    Good deal - hope they update the eBay price for an even better deal

  • +3 votes

    Panasonic Eneloop Pro batteries also 50% off at checkout

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    Is this a decent charger? I have the original Panasonic one and it's slow and unable to eg charge 3 at a time.

    • +1 vote

      i got one of the Nitecore D4 chargers, and that thing is 100x better than the ones that come with the eneloops

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      Some of the Panasonic chargers are crap. The "10 hour" one is regularly listed here on OzBargain, and it's a dumb charger. This one is substantially better, but in my opinion the 1.5 hour charge with two batteries is too fast, the possibility of overheating the batteries and damaging them is much higher than some of the other Panasonic smart chargers.

      Have a look at the Nitecore D4 and LiitoKala Lii-500 chargers. Similar price to this one, but much better features. However you'll need to manually select the current for your batteries, I recommend 700-1000mA for AA batteries and 300-400mA for AAA batteries.

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        I'm new to the rechargeable battery world, looking for a reasonable charger. Does the Nitecore I4 rate well against the Panasonic one in this deal? They are roughly the same price.
        I have a bunch of LADDA batteries already.

        • +2 votes

          You can't go wrong with the Nitecore I4. It'll do 18650, AA and AAA and it's pretty much the cheapest, entry-level hobbyist battery charger that isn't garbage (stay away from the La Crosse BC-700, it's a fire hazard). The I4 did used to get posted on OzB a lot more back in the day when Eneloop deals were the flavour of the month, every month.

          I've had my older model I4 for probably more than 5 years by now. It still works just fine and it never saw an Eneloop it couldn't charge up and believe me, I have enough of those across all of the different generations and in all of the different capacities released, to truly put the Nitecore I4 to the test.

          The only knock against it is when it comes to charging completely flat batteries, which does take several hours, but it adjusts the charge voltage/amperage intelligently to protect battery life and to avoid overheating.

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    are these Made in Japan?

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      China most probably

    • +1 vote

      Bought a set in the last deal. Made in China.

    • +1 vote

      Eneloops haven't been made in Japan since Panasonic acquired Sanyo (the original developer of the Eneloop LSD battery) back in 2013.

      The 3rd generation Eneloops were the last to be made in Japan and had superior charge retention rates and higher charge-discharge cycle counts compared to the modern made in China-loops. Most of them were cleared out of inventories by 2015/2016.

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    Does the charger have an AU plug?
    Mine is US with a convertor, pisses me off…

    • +1 vote

      It's Australian stock, has Australian plug.

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    Great deal! I've literally bought some eBay cheapies to try out because I couldn't get to an IKEA and couldn't wait for an eneloop sale, doh!
    I hope the eBay ones will be decent… can anyone comment? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-20X-BTY-AAA-Rechargeable-Batte...

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      Kati, your Ebay link looks impressive; I combined 20 AAA and 20 AA. Got 10% discount for two items and then 20% off with code PYLON.
      40 rechargeable batteries for $24.66
      62c per rechargeable battery

      20xAA: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-20X-BTY-AA-Rechargeable-Batter...
      20XAAA: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-20X-BTY-AAA-Rechargeable-Batte...

      No replies as yet. So I wonder about the battery quality. But they may be a good option for my rarely used, loaned and gifted items. My Eneloops progressively keep disappearing. Probably some are in forgotten toys, rarely used tools etc.

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      Hey, Kati - I managed to solicit some comments and strong opinions on the quality of the BTY rechargeable batteries in your link.

      See https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/464630

      So now we know. Seems they are not decent batteries. In fact far from descent it seems.

      The 3,000mAh claim for the AA is probably the clear giveaway one should pick up on.

    • +2 votes

      NiMh batteries come in two varieties: standard and low-self-discharge. The ones you found on ebay are standard type.

      The difference between the two types is how fast they go flat. Standard type will be down to about 50% of their charge a month after you charge them, even if you haven't used them. Low-self-discharge type retain about 80% of their charge a year after you have charged them.

      Low-self-discharge type are the better type, but it depends on how you use the batteries. If you are using them all the time and charge them every week or two, then the standard type are fine to use, you probably won't notice the difference. But if you want batteries that can sit in a drawer and still be ready to use, low-self-discharge are the way to go. If you want batteries for a remote control or a wall clock, you don't want a battery that you will have to charge every month or two, low-self-discharge type are preferred for these applications.

      How to identify low-self-discharge batteries? They will tell you on the packaging and usually on the batteries too, but different manufacturers use different terms. Eneloops are low-self-discharge, and they say "Ready to use". Other batteries say "pre-charged", "ready to go", "always ready" or similar words, indicating that you can use the batteries without charging them first. Some just say "low self-discharge".

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        Thank you everybody for your feedback! I'm sorry anybody has purchased them based on my link. I put a link to the 1000mAh version though not the 3000 mAh one if it makes a difference. Seems like they're going to be duds regardless. Sorry!

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    Ha ha, was just about to order some AAA and AA, delivery to Brisbane, $60 no thanks

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      That sucks, I'm only seeing +$6 for Melb Metro

      Is this a good deal on the 4xAAA Pro's?

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    Damn. Bought it full price a week ago. Any chance to claim back the difference?

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  • +4 votes

    People don't credit eneloops enough, it singlehandedly united the OzB community en mass and brought the love of rechargeable batteries to people who never really had use for them.

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      Maybe it can be an excuse to break out the old Wii system

  • +2 votes

    Finally pulled the trigger after 3 years Ozbargin

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    What are the absolute best AA cells you can get? Sorry I had a whole set but they ended up missing.

    • +2 votes

      Rechargeable? Eneloop Pros i'd say. Keep in mind they're widely faked and top end rechargables will always have crap single charge life relative to top non-rechargeables. For non-rechargeables, we use Duracell Pro-Cell Alkaline at work (mostly A/V stuff for live shows) and they're great for the price.
      Worth keeping in mind too for anyone not savvy with electronics that voltage drop will stop devices from working before the batteries are even close to deplete in many use cases, so the difference between top and mid-range batteries may not be that significant depending. If in doubt, just make sure they're alkaline.

      • +1 vote

        top end rechargables will always have crap single charge life relative to top non-rechargeables.

        Not true. Unless you have a device that can't handle the lower voltage, which are pretty rare nowadays, NiMh is pretty close to the capacity of Alkaline batteries, and in some cases higher.

        Alkaline batteries typically try to hide their capacity. And the manufacturers make it difficult to find the datasheets, you won't find them if you go to Duracell.com.au. Here's where they are for Duracell: http://professional.duracell.com/en/product-datasheets

        Have a look at the discharge curves. You implied that your devices won't work with rechargeables, so let's set the minimum voltage at 1.1V. At that voltage, Duracell Ultra Power AA batteries, discharged continuously at 5mA, have a life of 550 hours. So that gives a capacity of 550hours x 5mA = 2750mAh. At 100mA this drops to 2250mAh, at 200mA it's about 1750mAh, and at 1000mA you'll get under 1000mAh.

        Compare this with an AA Eneloop Pro, datasheet available from this page: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/aa-rechargeable-batteries/812...

        At 1250mA continuous discharge, you get better than 2200mAh from the Eneloop Pro. At lower currents you get closer to the rated capacity of 2550mAh. And NiMh batteries with 3000mAh capacity aren't hard to find, but admittedly they aren't the low-self-discharge kind.

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          It is true though. Comprehensive write up by the way and I appreciate the sources; totally agree with your figures too, except there's no way I'd call alkaline cells top end batteries haha. Show me some rechargeable that compete with lithium cells (excluding cost value, of course) and we're talking.

          • +2 votes

            @flopsy:

            there's no way I'd call alkaline cells top end batteries

            Ahh, in your previous post, straight after you said non-rechargeables are better than rechargeables, you mentioned Duracell Pro-Cell Alkalines. Hence my disagreement.

            If comparing against 1.6V Lithium batteries, you are correct, nothing in AA size beats the 3500mAh from an Energizer L91 Lithium battery: http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/l91.pdf They don't "fade" as they discharge either, like alkaline batteries do.

            But for most people, lithium non-rechargeables aren't in consideration due to their high price, and 3500mAh is not substantially better than 2500mAh for most uses.

            I am always amazed at how good NiMh batteries have become. They really are a serious contender against Alkaline batteries.

            • +1 vote

              @Russ: Totally agree with the last part; I love my Eneloops (not as much as my high capacity 3.7v lithium rechargeables but I digress). I knew I said "for the price" but I guess it's confusing structure following the first sentence. I didn't mention lithiums because they hardly meet OzBargain approval, and for the sake of comprehensiveness, obviously even alkalines are still terrible value compared to current NiMh options for most applications but apparently putting batteries on charge before a show is just too much to ask from some people XD

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    damn the shipping kills the deal. $18 to ship 2 x 4 AA eneloop pro.

  • +1 vote

    Excuse my ignorance - these will work ok in a Nerf laser?

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    AFAIK if you charge a battery in one hour it won't last a long time and if you have a ready replacement you should charge it overnight in one of these.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000RSOV50

    Check out the comments on ozbargain

  • +2 votes

    You aren't a true Ozbargainer if you don't have a drawer full of these ready to go whenever a TV remote goes down needing new batteries!

  • +2 votes

    meh, just wait for an IKEA family sale on Laddas then buy a whole bunch of them. Eneloops are poor value these days.

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    Anyone know why after decades, they still can’t make 1.5V rechargeable batteries? I know there are 1.5V rechargeable Lithium (or Li-Ion) batteries out there but they are expensive and not popular. Thanks guys

    • +1 vote

      It is a limitation set by the chemical composition.

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      There is a rechargeable battery that is comparable in voltage to alkalines, but they're pretty rare. As indicated by King Tightarse, the chemistry is different: these are Nickel-Zinc batteries, shortened to NiZn. Their voltage when fully charged is 1.65V, which seems high, but it's the same voltage as Energizer Lithium AA batteries.

      Here's where you can buy the batteries and chargers: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WTRSTAU

      Not available from Amazon AU.

      Their disadvantage, according to Battery University, is that you'll only get 200-300 charges out of them: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/nickel_based_bat... (scroll down to "Nickel-zinc (NiZn)")

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    Guys is the Ikea smart charger as good as this one? Or how about the ALDI charger?

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      Aldi does not keep a regular battery charger all the time do they? Maybe various models on those special buys only, can vary model and specs from sale to sale 6 or so months later.

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        How about the Ikea charger?

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          No idea. Only been there twice. Is it online?

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    $51 delivery for charger and 3xaa & 3xaaa packs to
    Melbourne. Hmmm.

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    A reminder for me to get IKEA’s