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Super Soco TS Electric Motorbike $3990 Rideaway (Originally $4990) @ Super Soco
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Lilove on 03/09/2019 - 07:01 supersoco.com.au (11425 clicks)
Last edited 03/09/2019 - 14:11 by 2 other users

The all new SUPER SOCO TS - a saving of $1000
Breathtaking. Inspiring. Revolutionary. Or just simply fantastic. The new Super SOCO TS is a state of the art electric vehicle when it comes to e-mobility. After many years of conceptual design and development, it has finally been created. It will thrill you – without compromises, because e-mobility has become so enjoyable.

Finance also available, Payment options as well

Max.Power 2400w
Motor Type Electric Hub
Motor Brand BOSCH
Power Management FOC Vector Controller 2.0
Max.Motor Torque 120N-m
Max.Climbing Angle 15°

Colours: RED, Black, Silver, White, Orange

Though not on sale there is also a Scooter version.

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        • BluebirdV on 03/09/2019 - 10:27

          Hilly as in Hobart?

    • 22slurpee on 03/09/2019 - 22:15

      You realise that 10% slopes are seen as steep and that equates to ~5.7 degrees.

      Generally anything steeper is signposted warning motorists.

      15 degrees would be absolutely freakishly steep. Not sure about that claim

  • SteveAndBelle on 03/09/2019 - 07:19
    +5

    Nice local review here Basically the equivalent to a 50cc scooter so won't please everyone but definitely has a place especially for inner-city commuting and/or deliveries. Speed-wise it looks like it can be pushed to around 70km/h.

    • Salmando on 03/09/2019 - 07:29
      +3

      Does it need to be literally pushed to reach that spread? All other claims call it 20kmh lower than that.

      • SteveAndBelle on 03/09/2019 - 07:37

        Ha yeah, not sure. Just going by what the reviewer stated… and that was even on a slight incline!

    • alvian on 03/09/2019 - 07:37
      +7

      I found myself doing the old Flintstones routine, paddling my feet along the ground for a bit of extra grunt until the bike got moving.

      Haven't seen that riding technique on the road for a long while.

      • frewer on 03/09/2019 - 08:49
        +2

        You must be very ooooollllddd and wise ofc

  • edrift on 03/09/2019 - 07:42
    +4

    Does the 15 degrees max climbing angle mean it can't go up hills?
    How is thing road legal if it's much less capable than a regular scooter?
    I like the concept and the price, but it doesn't sound all that practical.

    • SteveAndBelle on 03/09/2019 - 07:55
      +1

      Apart from a few scattered around I'm pretty sure most roads are designed to be under 15%… but I'm happy to be proven wrong. I know of a few short 'goat track' type streets around inner-city Brisbane but they're the exception.

    • foonman on 03/09/2019 - 08:16
      +2

      That's what I wondered, it doesn't sound like much but 15 degrees is 26% When you see road signs warning of a steep descent of 15% I think 26% must be really steep.

    • Salmando on 03/09/2019 - 13:29

      For the price you can get a used 250 motorbike…

    • carnyturbo on 04/09/2019 - 10:22

      Steepest street in the world is 20 degrees ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ffordd_Pen_Llech ). You wont generally come across a street in Australia as steep as 15 degrees. Sydney's steepest is apparently 14 degrees (25% grade) - http://tiny.cc/rg65bz . Brisbane only has 4 steeper than 15 degrees ( https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/brisban… ).

      I have no idea about the capability of this bike on hills but if 15 degrees is accurate, you won't find that to be a problem.

  • brad1-8tsi on 03/09/2019 - 07:45
    +2

    Look at it as the equivalent of a 50cc engine that has reasonable torque to get off the line but as you "rev it out" power drops off considerably.

    Price wise it's a lot cheaper than a Fonzarelli or a 50cc Vespa. A bit more than the 50cc offerings from Lambretta and a lot more than a Kymco or Piaggio

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA2H8Uil6L8

    • macrocephalic on 03/09/2019 - 09:42
      +1

      And, sure, you're saving on fuel, but a 50cc scooter gets like 40+km/L anyway, so you're not saving all that much. You're probably not going to travel more than 10km per trip on this (because of the slow speed), so you're saving about 35c of fuel each trip.

      • brad1-8tsi on 03/09/2019 - 09:54

        But there the cost of charging the battery to think about…
        Virtually no servicing (possibly a bad thing in the long term as people don't tend to check brakes, lights, tyres very well).
        No oil leaks, etc.

        I think the buyers of this type of bike may have motivations beyond fuel economy.

        From the tests I've read, you can get 70kph in "sport" mode. More if you modify the speed limiter. I assume the speed limiter is there for a purpose - eg: The power cabling is at it's current limit and liable to overheat, melt, etc if pushed beyond 70kph.

        • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 10:50
          +3

          You speak as if scooter riders actually service their machines…

          • brad1-8tsi on 03/09/2019 - 11:17
            +4

            @ATangk: It's my vision of a utopian society

            • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 11:31

              @brad1-8tsi: Rusty chains are a dime a dozen in current scooter riders etc.

              • macrocephalic on 03/09/2019 - 12:30

                @ATangk: Chains? Most of them have the engine mounted on the swingarm with no visible final drive.

                • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 12:32

                  @macrocephalic: Sorry I meant cb125e’s. Not scooters. Scooters generally have no tread left.

  • maxwellian on 03/09/2019 - 07:52
    +6

    Good luck getting a dealer to return a call/email.

    • justdigi on 03/09/2019 - 08:21
      +1

      I had this problem. Had cash ready for their EOFY sale in June, there is only one dealer in Brisbane and I couldn’t get them to engage no matter what I tried. Sale ended and I never got a returned phone call or email. I would’ve just dropped in but being Team Moto, it wasn’t clear which actual storefront had the bike or whether they even had stock. They’re obviously not desperate to sell them.

      • maxwellian on 03/09/2019 - 11:21
        +1

        Same deal/dealer. Really jades your opinion of the brand if this is the retailer they partner with. I just wish Zero's were still about

  • Robc on 03/09/2019 - 08:02
    +3

    These will be the future. At the moment I can run a 2 stroke 100cc for pennies a week, and refill it in about 3 minutes. I think the tax at rego is very low for electric vehicles, but I don't think it affects the greenslip too much. I'd imagine a few dominoes fleets will be swapping though, you may get to see some in the wild.

    • Cluster on 03/09/2019 - 14:36
      +1

      The only catch is 2 stroke engines have horrendous pollution problems. Just follow one on the street and smell the exhaust.

      • Robc on 03/09/2019 - 20:12

        I'm on top, wafting. ;)

        That's my point though-2strokea are inefficient, but still cost nothing to run. Viva la future.

  • cchhiillyy on 03/09/2019 - 08:09
    +7

    "It will thrill you – without compromises, ", 50km/h isn't exactly thrilling, or without compromises.
    Definitely cool design and idea, hopefully better in a couple years.

    • dlovep on 03/09/2019 - 08:37
      +1

      depends on when you read this, before or after accident…LoL

  • ozeebee on 03/09/2019 - 08:14

    This interests me…

  • thorpef1 on 03/09/2019 - 08:16
    +20

    Max Power. 2400w

    My hair dryer at home is more powerful than this bike

    • RubenM on 03/09/2019 - 08:23

      Yet it would beat your car in a (very) short drag race!

      • John Dough on 03/09/2019 - 09:56
        +1

        You don't know what car he drives. Could be a P100D.

    • brad1-8tsi on 03/09/2019 - 09:57

      For some reason my brain was converting that to 24kw not 2.4kw. Your comparison suddenly turned on the light bulb.

    • cyssero on 03/09/2019 - 14:54

      Kids, there's three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way and the Max Power way!

  • Yaren24 on 03/09/2019 - 08:21
    +1

    Max Power. 2400w

    WTF

    • RubenM on 03/09/2019 - 08:27
      +1

      It's an 80kg bike, 2.4kW is plenty of power to ride in the city. Have a look at a 1000W bicycle, they're quite fast.

  • philmarcracken on 03/09/2019 - 08:23

    These look good but its honestly so hard to find an electric bike. Either your search is directed to a bicycle with a hub motor, some incredibly ugly shit or like this one, way too slow top speed.

    • hhuy837 on 03/09/2019 - 09:14

      Zero sells the electric motorbikes. They look pretty damn nice. I know someone who has an older version and he loves his.
      [edit] nvm, looks like they don't sell in Aus anymore.

      • macrocephalic on 03/09/2019 - 09:43
        +2

        Zero pulled out of the Australian market years ago.

    • [Deactivated] on 03/09/2019 - 13:22

      Wait for the Vespa Elettrica to launch here. It’s supposedly on the near-term radar.

      Then you can zoom around at an eye-watering 50km/h.

  • Viper8 on 03/09/2019 - 08:24
    +1

    2.4kW. Lolll.

    • 3 on 03/09/2019 - 09:42
      +7

      Hey, that's equivalent of 3.2 horses pulling you along! Practically a Roman Chariot.

      • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 10:53
        +4

        Not true. A horse can actually produce ~15 hp. So it’s like, 1/5th a horse?

        • Salmando on 03/09/2019 - 13:34

          Miniature pony. mp for short

  • Meganinja on 03/09/2019 - 08:30

    There is a tank , may be a battery pack inside …I've seen in Sydney CBD some deliveroo bicycles fitted with 1000W motor hub , it can start and reach 50 Km/h faster than my scooter 150cc , so the driver can do more deliveries in a short time , but I will wait a bit more to see a better specs than this one .

    • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 10:53

      Are those 1000W bicycles road registered?

      • Meganinja on 03/09/2019 - 22:17

        No , it just a normal bicycle with a huge hub at the rear wheel , driven by an deliveroo .., there is no enforce for bicycle .

        • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 22:23

          You are wrong. 200W is the limit or 250W for pedelecs. $1200 fine.

          Next time you see one, call the cops. That’s highly illegal 1000W is a danger given that deliveroo riders pay more attention to their phones than their surroundings.

          • Meganinja on 03/09/2019 - 22:57

            @ATangk: 1000W because the size of the hub and due to weight and small Asian rider it accelerate same as car at the front ( from City Rd right in to Cleveland St ) , my 150cc honda pcx scooter is a tad slower on the start

            • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 23:34

              @Meganinja: If its 1000W and not registered (no number plate) its illegal. Your 150cc should have a rego plate so thats fine…

          • desync on 04/09/2019 - 02:05
            -1

            @ATangk: nanny state advocate… you're the reason this country is turning to shit… highly illegal…call the cops… you should be ashamed of yourself, pathetic

            • ATangk on 04/09/2019 - 11:04

              @desync: When one of them crashes into your car, have fun trying to chase up for damages from an unregistered uninsured rider.

  • mikkim4eva on 03/09/2019 - 08:38
    +4

    Expensive xiaomi scooter that needs insurance and rego…

    • desert eagle on 03/09/2019 - 11:42

      I’d like to see someone do 50km/hr on a Xiaomi scooter.

  • PurchaseAnxiety on 03/09/2019 - 08:44

    Got excited until I saw the top speed. I can't see myself having much fun on the uphill highway in my commute.

    • Salmando on 03/09/2019 - 13:35
      +1

      The cars behind you will push you

      • PurchaseAnxiety on 03/09/2019 - 14:00
        +1

        Sounds like I'd be better off buying a pair of roller blades then.

  • Zythyx on 03/09/2019 - 08:44

    Serious question: How much coal is required to fully charge an electric bike if it is fully discharged (7 hours to charge)?

    Is the total emissions from that better or worse than a 5L 50cc petrol engine?

    • ocoolio on 03/09/2019 - 08:58
      +11

      Serious answer: the conversion rate from source to energy in coal power plants is much better than in a tiny petrol engine, even if we take energy transport and storage into account.

    • frewer on 03/09/2019 - 09:00
      +1

      Battery Capacity 60V/26Ah

      Still less than a petrol fueled car, or its battery or a burning rain-forest. Seriously though, solar powered isnt that rare …

    • krisspy on 03/09/2019 - 09:26

      Petrol will always have worst footprint compared to electric. Sure electricity is mainly generated by coal here, and lithium batteries are hard to mine/refine but an ICE engine is only 30-40% efficient, you have to haul fuel from refineries all around australia by big oiler trucks.

      Electricity will lose about 5-10% only in conversion and transmission. Let alone being able to restore some kinetic energy back into power.

    • Ryanek on 03/09/2019 - 14:46
      +2

      That's where renewable energy comes to play. Iceland is close to 100% renewable.

  • sep1 on 03/09/2019 - 08:49
    +1

    Pretty cool, but practically useless given the mileage per charge and top speed.

  • lrntoplay on 03/09/2019 - 08:51
    -8

    Just hand your man card in now!

  • ChatCPT on 03/09/2019 - 08:58
    +13

    I dont see the purpose. This is basically a 50cc scooter - just get a scooter.
    Max speed 50km/h?? Seriously? I've seen scooters on the M5 doing 80ks
    If you think this is better looking than a scooter - then just get a Honda CB125E for $2800 ride away. 125cc full size bike that will do 110km/h and 400km in one tank!
    https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/details/2018-honda-cb…

    15 degree max climbing angle -_- do you know how many roads that makes this unusable on. Heck you cant even go up the Westfield ramp on this!
    this thing is a safety risk!

    • macrocephalic on 03/09/2019 - 09:47
      +2

      A 50cc scooter will not do 80km/h. Firstly, unless they're heavily modified they don't have the power (wind resistance increases at the cube of speed). Secondly, 50cc scooters have to be speed limited to 50km/h in Australia - that is how come you're allowed to ride them without a motorcycle licence.

      If you've seen scooters going faster then you've probably seen bigger scooters. They come in all sizes; the Suzuki Burgman is reasonably common and is 650cc.

    • BluebirdV on 03/09/2019 - 10:34
      +1

      Actually my Honda CB125e struggles to do 99 km/hr on the freeway.

      • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 10:55

        Shoulda got a cbr125r then. Fairings make a huge difference at the upper end.

      • inherentchoice on 09/09/2019 - 09:06

        The Honda 125 I rode with the motorcycle school really struggled to do 80 km/h. I am 90kgs though.

        • BluebirdV on 09/09/2019 - 22:28

          I'm 60 kg. Had mine up to 99 km/hr on June Freeway. That's the absolute limit.

    • Godric on 03/09/2019 - 17:38

      Or a Grom, are they good?

      • pegaxs on 03/09/2019 - 20:58

        Around town and under 80km/h, they are sooo much fun. On open roads and in 80km/h+ zones, the Grom feels like a death trap. It is not fun to ride on a highway around much faster cars and trucks.

        • BluebirdV on 09/09/2019 - 22:29

          Had one come up the side of me while driving. So low you could easily miss seeing it.

  • customundo on 03/09/2019 - 08:59

    With a max speed of 50km/h this should only be allowed in the bike lane, not taking up a lane on main roads

  • Sage222 on 03/09/2019 - 08:59

    em3ev.com that is all.

  • [Deactivated] on 03/09/2019 - 09:06

    where can I learn how to ride a motorbike? I'm not a comfortable rider on a mountain bike.

  • hippyhippy on 03/09/2019 - 09:07
    +2

    Why not just buy a normal motor bike… I doubt there any carbon savings from this .

  • error619 on 03/09/2019 - 09:12
    +6

    Max.Climbing Angle 15°, My Driveway is 18° My Motorbike and Petrol Scooter does not have a Problem? WTF PASS

    • Herre on 03/09/2019 - 09:18
      +3

      the angle limit is totally not user-friendly in a city like Sydney

      • error619 on 03/09/2019 - 09:29
        +1

        Herre, Yes… pretty much unusable in every possible Urban environment.

    • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 10:56

      I’m pretty sure the 15 degree climbing limit is for some speed keeping limit, prob 40 or 50kph. Not that it physically won’t… as with any car the incline will decrease speed.

      • Salmando on 03/09/2019 - 13:44

        I don't know, says max. I imagine it's the point where the downwards force of the bike exceeds the torque required to push forward. You'll be scooting up the kills I think

        • ATangk on 03/09/2019 - 14:09

          If downward force exceeds motor at zero speed and max torque, that’s some effd up motor. At speed it would be just slowing. A small 50W motor on a escooter can tackle inclines so I don’t see how 2400W can’t.

  • CarnivalMonkey on 03/09/2019 - 09:15
    +2

    now for a good deal on eneloops…

  • Cataclysm on 03/09/2019 - 09:31

    do you need a plate number for this?

  • ctrlaltdel on 03/09/2019 - 09:31

    guess it will be very popular with those food deliveries company that are using e-bicycles at the moment.

    • ChatCPT on 03/09/2019 - 09:33
      +3

      no those guys are smart - they're all on Honda CB125's

    • macrocephalic on 03/09/2019 - 09:51
      +3

      The savings of this over a 50cc scooter (it's direct competition) isn't that much - as scooters already use hardly any fuel (less than 3L/100km). When the scooter does run out of fuel you can refuel it in a minute, this probably has a long charge time. Companies using electric bicycles aren't paying for rego and insurance, and don't require the delivery riders to have licences.

      If you want to commute to work in the city then this might be good for you, but this wouldn't make a good replacement for a commercial vehicle.

      • OzBestDeal on 03/09/2019 - 10:58
        +3

        License, Insurance, and Rego are the main disadvantage of registered vehicle (cost-wise).

  • DEvok on 03/09/2019 - 09:31

    Good to take them to use in the M4 and M5 tunnel

  • ozozoioi on 03/09/2019 - 09:32

    Super SOCOMO

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