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AMD Ryzen 5 2600 $159.20 + Delivery ($0 with eBay Plus) @ Futu Online eBay
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OMG just bought last week for 175.crying
dw. this is one thing where the best time to buy is always later. So everyone else in history is crying with you. :)
The problem is how later to wait? I lost 15 bucks Hahaha
Well in 10 yrs you will lose 175 bucks. Just wait forever. You will never lose if you never spend.
@mit: Noups. As good Ozbargainer I will actually sell my CPU in a year or so overseas for the same price as I paid. So technically if I got for 15 bucks less I could make more profit or sell cheaper. But still a good point haha
If you want monopolistic price stability, go intel, or a console.
If you go AMD, be prepared not to look at the prices for a month/year depending on your sensitivity to the sadness of missed opportunities
Has the code expired? Can't seem to apply at checkout
Just tried it now and it's still working for me. Will end later today though.
Would this be the best CPU available right now at <$200? I'm looking for the best price/performance CPU for my next build
Yeah the Ryzen 5 series presents exceptional value. Whether it's the 2600, 3600 or even the 1600. The 2600 and 3600 can give better overclocking and memory results, but the 1600 is a damn good CPU, I have one still on my main rig.
It'd be a toss-up between this and the i5 9400F. The 9400F will push more FPS in games, but lacks HT, so will lose to the Ryzen 2600 in more multi-threaded apps. I love Ryzen and I think the price/performance is great, but even my 3900X system still doesn't push as many FPS as my wife's 8700K, but of course for most of my MATLAB and R stuff (which actually pays the bills), there's no contest ;)
R stuff
You do porn editing?
And cooking illegal drugs?
R is a statistical analysis package. Used lots in data sciences
Wait for the ryzen 3500x. 6 core 6 threads.
may as well wait for the ryzen 3500
I would go for Ryzen nowadays with mutli tasking being a bigger and bigger thing these days.
People have a million tasks and programs open at all times now so Ryzen feels like the smart answer especially if you are streaming or recording anything.
Ryzen 3500 and 3500X are upcoming CPUs AMD planning to release to combat i5-9400F. Reason is that on the gaming side, right now i5-9400F is a sensible choice (because Ryzen 2600 doesn't beat 9400F in single core and quad core level). Ryzen 3500 will beat 9400F and will be priced lower.
If you can wait, Ryzen 3500 or 3500X is a better choice over Ryzen 5 2600… except the affordable motherboards will require a BIOS update which requires an old CPU.
@netsurfer: What would you pair with a RTX 2080 Super or RTX 2080 Ti?
Basically for everything gaming switching between 1080p and 4k.
Might just do amateur streaming on Mixer as Twitch is too strict and chaotic and I would probably get insta banned.
Would be only gameplay with my discord and mic in the background on stream.
32gb ram minimum.
SSD, mechanical HDD maybe a nvme if budget permits.
But yeah looking at my next upgrade honestly no rush as prices always get cheaper but when my current rig starts not being able to play the new games at minimum settings decently I will consider changing so trying to keep up with what is fresh and new.
@AlienC: if you're thinking of streaming at all, check out eposvox channel on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/user/EposVox/videos
there was a recent video on AMD ryzen 3600 settings for steaming, but it all depends on your upstream speed, resolution etc. a 3700x or faster is recommended from his videos. Also Nvidia GPU as NVENC2 is miles better than AMD's options.
@gizmomelb: Nothing major just some place where I can view my stuff again easily without having to record and hold all the data locally.
I did stream 720p Starcraft 2 to Mixer this year and it was ok with my setup pretty decent quality so I am assuming with much better hardware it should do 1080p quality fine maybe even 1440p or higher.
My upload is only 20mbps now but I can get 40mbps but my download maxes at around 60mbps sometimes spikes to 70mbps so I am just on 50/20mbps unlimited for now.
No idea if I will get access to higher speeds at this location so wondering what my streaming can reach with my setup network wise because hardware wise I can wait for stuff to become cheap.
@AlienC: AMD 3600 streaming - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYkVSMr3EAk&t=1s
AMD 3700X and 3900X streaming - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2CNbpboimE
if you can afford the 2080 Ti then go the 3900X, otherwise go mid range 3700X.
your bandwidth is unlikely to support 1080p60 streaming, 720p60 fine.
@AlienC: Which gaming monitor you are going to get? A 4K 140-144 fps HDR monitor? If yes, then Ryzen 9 3900X (or if budget permits 3950X - that CPU is yet to be released).
Basically two approaches:
Dream PC approach: Ryzen 9 3900X/3950X. A primary NVMe SSD (512GB) + a secondary SSD (1-2TB for games) + a traditional HDD (for other large files). The secondary SSD, SATA makes sense, but some 1TB NVMe SSDs are quite attractive (i.e. Kingston A2000 1TB is priced close to SATA3 equivalent - $165) and they do perform at NVMe level (pity it is a huge overkill for gaming). Samsung B-die RAM modules.
Pragmatic approach: Ryzen 5 3600. Get a 1TB or 2TB SATA3 SSD for OS + gaming (try to get 2TB if budget permits). Any decent RAM modules which are DDR4-3000 or better (preferably Micron Rev E die based RAM modules). I would also consider 1440p gaming monitor instead of 4K.
Honestly, for gaming, the GPU and the monitor play the most critical role. You don't gain much in terms of actual core performance for AMD above 3600 right now. Gaming on traditional HDD is getting more and more painful (really slow loading) so get a large size SSD. Personally, I would probably go the dream PC route…
@netsurfer: I'm just trying to figure out if the Ryzen will do better on a system running a lot of programs in the background while gaming and possibly streaming / recording.
I know Intel wins 5-10% when compared $ to $ vs AMD but that is in like a gaming only environment.
If my ability to multi task I.e game, stream, record, chrome browsing, discord, all the other gaming clients and platforms, Spotify, avast, superantispyware, glasswire, gmail and maybe a few more all at the same time smoothly is more achievable with Ryzen then Ryzen it is but if all that will be more benefited from Intel then Intel it is.
I get confused weird multi core performance sometimes and multi task or multi program performance.
I think running all those programs would still benefit from Intel since they are mostly single core related besides the streaming and maybe game recording.
More research need to be done but yeah that is what a typical set up and usage would be for me with my next upgrade.. Just purely a gaming streaming recording machine not even editing just raw footage for now to mixer and YouTube and maybe twitch.
What would you pair with a RTX 2080 Super or RTX 2080 Ti?
Depends on what else you're doing. I'd say the 3700X is probably a good sweet spot. 3800X marginally faster, but I find it hard to stomach the price difference. 9900KF also a reasonable choice, it's dropped in price significantly and will still push more frames than Ryzen.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Intel-Core-i9-9900KF-CPU-5-0GHz-…
@netsurfer: most motherboards can be upgraded by the PC store you buy it from for $10, sometimes they'll do it for free.
alternatively if it's a newer board it'll have the newest BIOS with support for newer zen 2 CPUs on it alreayd.
@gizmomelb: The problem is the stores I visited want $20-$40 and they won't do the upgrade right away (so I need to come back in a few hours or the following day - they prefer the following day).
Newer board - if we are talking about Ryzen 3500, going for a new board means paying extra.
Looks like a great buy if you wanted to knock up a cheap little gaming PC
What would be the best motherboard to go with this?
Cheapest motherboard you can find - i.e. A320 board. For example: Asrock A320M-HDV R4.0
the cheapest from naming brand is more than enough for this. im on B350, and it is fantastic
If you have ebay plus this MSI B450M Pro VDH or the MSI mortar if you want some extra features (2xM.2, RGB light, better heatsinks and VRM for OC) will probably be the best value on Thurs with 20% off. Although won't be as much of a deal if you don't have ebay plus for the free shipping.
You're a good lad. I'm tempted to move on from bulldozer.
Thanks guys!
I got a 2nd hand b350 gigabyte d3h motherboard for 80$ off ebay. Don't consider the a320 you'll want to overclock the 2600 to 3.9ghz at least(most you can comfortably get on the stock cooler).
Disagree with people saying but the cheapest board you can find. Get a decent board and you'll be be able to overclock the 2600, drop in a faster chip in the future if you want, and get all the quality of life features you'd miss out if you bought the cheapest board (like USB-C, enough fan/RGB headers, 2x M.2 slots etc)
The ASRock B450 Pro4 is a solid board that costs around $135-155, has decent VRM cooling, and most features you'd want.
I'm currently running a i5-6600 Skylake cpu and recently installed a Gigabyte 5700 XT.
Should i opt for this or should I wait it out for something better? my computer is currently bottlenecking because of my cpu.
Current motherboard is a Gigabyte H270 HD3 which I can replace if I have to as well.
Depends on your budget. The 2600 is a great CPU and all but depends what you will be doing with the system.
You will have some issues getting your RAM to clock over 3200MHz with the Zen+ processors but the newer Zen2 are much better.Which gaming monitor? What resolution and what's the max refresh rate?
Anyway, changing your setup to this CPU setup for gaming doesn't make sense. You get at most 5% boost in single core and up to 4 cores performance. You need to look at at least Ryzen 5 3600. I don't think your CPU is bottlenecking, it's just you want to buy a new CPU and motherboard.
The GPU upgrade you did was smart. Upgrading to this CPU because it is cheap (for gaming) is unwise.
My monitor setup is a bit dated.
Right now. I'm currently using a 32" AOC. 1440p I think and 75hz. I can upgrade this as well if I have to.
When I try to run any games on high/ultra CPU usage stays at 100% (eg. Battlefield 1 or the decent COD:MW beta).
Battlefield 1, I see… In that case, go Ryzen R5 3600.
Gigabyte 5700 XT, pair it with the current gen CPU.
I have the same it 6600k? I don't think this CPU is much faster though…..I highly doubt the 6600k is the bottleneck, I don't notice any lag and it's still a lot speedier than corporate work desktop and high end laptops I use.
CPU usage is always going to say 100% though, it means it's actually doing work?
is it really supposed to be maxed out though?
Are you playing games on your computer with the 6600k? And what games are you playing on what settings?
hmm
$160 for this or like $275 for the 3600$275 for 3600. Get the shinny new toy.
Where is the 3600 that price?
Extra $100+ to spend on a gpu or higher refreshrate monitor can make a bigger difference in your experience.. just depends on budget
Can anyone tell me why?
I have an amd A9-9420 cpu laptop, although clock is much higher, but my i3-2310 laptop 7 years, seems operate much smoother on win 7 64bit.
because the i3 is better
My guess would be i3-2310M laptop has SSD inside. Your A9-9420 has a HDD inside. That's the most logical explanation.
Otherwise, another scenario I can think of is anti-virus running in background for A9-9420, with 2 cores/2 threads, antivirus can hog the CPU resources. Honestly, both CPUs are not that good in today's standard. A9-9420 is not really an upgrade of the CPU to be honest.
i3-2310M has hyperthreading (so 4 threads vs A9-9420's 2) and higher IPC. The A9-9420 was a really low end laptop processor designed more to compete against Intel's Pentium and Celerion range rather than the core range.
Can I still buy Win7 ? I dont like those spying features in win 10
You will need to hack around it to install Windows 7 as officially Microsoft blocks CPUs from AMD Ryzen and Intel Kaby Lake onwards to run Windows 7.
Just turn those spying features off and create an account for John Doe and use that.
Remember, your smartphone spies on you even harder…
Just turn those spying features off and create an account for John Doe and use that.
I my have to do that.
Remember, your smartphone spies on you even harder…
Yep, hence I use it rarely
Great value CPU
Ryzen 3 2200G with 16gb and rx580 on a b450 msi mortar mainboard. PC is a secondary machine for light gaming and web browsing with a 2560x1080 75hz monitor.
Worth upgrading to this or not really gonna see a difference?I think your ryzen 3 is bottling neck your graphics so in your case will be a nice jump. How fast is your memory?
Depends on the game. I can run Gears 5 on my i7 2600K from 10 years ago and have no issues or frame drops. But other games are more CPU intensive.
Witcher is also butter smooth so that CPU is still crazy good.
Anyone found the link for i9-9900KF @ $639.20?
Thanks mate
The 3xxx series uses less power and is significantly faster per core. I'd avoid the 1 and 2, period - unless it was $99 for granny - it'll be an excellent processor for that.
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