Overseas Travel - Are You Booked & Are You Still Going?

Hello =)

We have seen a dozen or so threads about upcoming booked travel and what should I do in light of this virus that is going around the world? We all have read, seen, or heard the news - multiple times per day - and have an idea what the coronavirus is, and then we reflect on how it could impact those who are travelling (or not). We could debate and argue this 'until the cows come home' and still have no resolution in what is still a dynamic virus situation.

The direction of this thread (well I hope anyway) is to see, in factual data, of who are booked, when and where are you going and IF you are still going? [prefer not to debate pros/cons of this virus]

Hopefully, we can use this format

  1. When I am going?
  2. Where I am going?
  3. Am I still going?

I'll start off with my situation:-

4 to 18 March
Thailand (Koh Samui / Koh Phangan)
Yes + wife

8-21 April
Thailand (Bangkok), Cambodia (Phnom Penh) and Singapore
Yes + wife

14-19 May
Melbourne
Yes

11 July - 3 August
France (Paris) and TBD european cities.
Yes + wife, however my parents may cancel if situation gets worse.

3 to 18 August
Singapore and Japan
Yes + wife

Comments

  • +17 votes

    I'd probably cancel March and April. By 2nd half of the year, the virus should've peaked and is dying off. Or we have a vaccine.

    Or zombies everywhere

  • +38 votes

    I'm still going because I'm sure I will get free extended holiday paid by tax payer at Christmas island at the end of my trip.

    • +2 votes

      I have already told work my plans to extend my holidays. I'm in Sweden for the next 2 weeks)

      At the last drink service on the plane on the way home I will order a hot tea - pour some in my keep cup and rub on my head when they are testing temperatures of people coming back from Europe.

      Unfortunately Christmas island is no longer on offer but they didn't have WiFi anyway so I'd prefer to go to Darwin where they are sending people now.

    • +1 vote

      Go later in the year and you might spend Christmas on Christmas Island ;)

  • +5 votes

    I've just received advice from Jetstar that they are cancelling all the flights to Incheon, South Korea from next week to June.

  • +4 votes

    I'm not even travelling interstate. I'll stay in Tassie and ride it out for now!

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    I booked a spain-milan flight last week before the whole covid19 thing went crazy. Meant to fly out milan-melbourne end march. Will see this weekend what the situation is like, probably will cancel that final flight, get my points back and rebook from a different european departure point - except it seems like things are spreading :(

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      Have a friend in the same position; was going to spend the bulk of their time in Italy and they will likely cancel this weekend.

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      last week?,… this thing has been crazy for a month…
      there were 10k cases by 31 Jan, now its 82,500.
      It was pretty much increasing in cases by 3 to 5k a day, its been this last week where its relaxed a bit to say 1 to 1.5k a day.
      https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...

      I booked a trip before this broke for a 7 night stay in July, if this had broken prior to when I booked, I would not have booked.
      At the moment we are just going to ride this out and see where it goes. I am tempted to ask about cancelling..

      All nations need to get tough on this to restrict its spread.

      Remember, most likely NO Insurance Cover for the virus unless you bought into cover before it became a recognised event,
      and even then what they might cover is restrictive.
      example: https://www.insureandgo.com.au/travel-alerts.jsp

      • +2 votes

        last week?,… this thing has been crazy for a month…

        It's been crazy in china/asia but not europe until a week ago. Thought we were fairly safe going to europe but obviously that's changed a bit. Not so fussed about the prospect of 2 weeks quarantine at home in australia, but can't handle being quarantined overseas.

    • +1 vote

      Anyway, yesterday cancelled our return flight milan-doha-melbourne, cancellation cost was 12,000 asiamiles points per person (had booked qatar J through asiamiles originally). I have a feeling if I waited another week or two, I could've cancelled for free given the increase in cases in Milan, but wanted the points back sooner. Possibly we'll rebook another flight somewhere else, but it seems the sh!t is hitting the fan everywhere and paranoia/travel bans are the way of the immediate future.

      Haven't cancelled our departure flight to europe this weekend, but will probably do that in the next 48 hours

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        Bah… cancelled our melb-dubai-lisbon flight too. Only lost 6000 points per person cancellation fee so escaped lightly.

        And also got an email this morning that iberia wanted to reschedule our bilbao-madrid-milan flight - called them and was able to get a refund for free - lucky outcome on that one too!

  • +1 vote

    Wait 48 hrs before flight if any flight changes you'll most likely get tickets fully refunded and if you booked through agent some are waving cancellation fees.

  • +2 votes

    If I was single I would be taking advantage of cheap fares to go on holiday, like this guy

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/coronavirus-empt...

    Unfortunately my wife has bought into the mass hysteria, so it won't be happening

  • +82 votes

    Is this thread about coronavirus or op showcasing all the trips they've planned?

    • +1 vote

      I could explain why I am still going but that's not the point of this thread;

      From the comments so far, it appears that those who are booked, many are concerned, some have cancelled. That's what I am trying to gather, rather than debating the good or bad point about this virus.

      If however you really want me to explain, there are many posts about my viewpoints on this virus.

    • +1 vote

      The number of people up-voting this comment and down-voting the OPs reply shows jealousy is rife on Ozbargain. FFS it's not like the OP is asking whether he should upgrade from business to first.

    • +1 vote

      Yes, OP is flexing.

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    April going on a south pacific cruise with Royal Caribbean.

    June going to Japan, Hawaii, Las Vegas and Los Angeles flying with Singapore airlines (China airlines from Tokyo to Honolulu)

    If it gets worse and the cruise/airlines/hotels offer refunds then i will cancel, otherwise i am still going.

  • +2 votes

    Singapore and KL late July. My mum’s worried … I’m not fussed (she wanted me to wear a mask at work too but I’m not the one who’s sick)

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    My plans was to travel this week, but mid of January I cancelled plans to travel to Guangzhou China and Finland.

    Im fairly certain it is safe to travel to China late March but I believe I wont be travelling overseas coming 2-3 months.

    • +1 vote

      Don't want to scare you mate, but you dont want that passport stamp on your passport bro.
      They will stop you everywhere.

  • +1 vote

    Was going to Japan, 20/3. Was = canceled. :(

  • +30 votes

    Just cancelled my holiday to Wuhan

  • +5 votes

    still going to asia, if i die then i die. 35 is a good age to die

    • +5 votes

      I think that is supposed to be 27.

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      Pretty low chance unless you have a pre existing condition. So far only one Aussie has died and he was in his late 70s. Still more likely to die in a car crash…

      • +1 vote

        Also, you are more likely to die in a car crash than: Fall, Gun Assault, Pedestrian Incident, Motorcyclist, Drowning,Fire or Smoke, Choking on Food,
        Bicyclist, Accidental Gun Discharge, Sunstroke, Electrocution, Radiation, Extreme Temperatures and Pressure,
        Sharp objects, Cataclysmic Storm,
        Hot surfaces and substances, Hornet, wasp and bee stings, Dog attack, a passenger on an aeroplane, Lightning, Railway passenger

  • +3 votes

    Still going to Peru in April

  • +3 votes

    My plans were to travel to HKG and Japan today.

    Me wife baby parents and brother - cancelled with full refunds (made it even sweeter)

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    Due to fly to Xian on April 6. Refunds are only until March 31.

  • +4 votes

    May
    UK & Italy
    Yes, I am going unless I drop dead beforehand.
    I reckon the media is misrepresenting the facts and causing mass hysteria.

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      Yes misrepresenting the facts aka way more people have it and have died, especially in China.

      China are locking up dissidents, journalist and anything else related to it, what does that tell you? There's still a lot that we don't know about, let alone long term side effects. I'm not saying we need to go in lock down but you know how can't give blood if you've been in the UK during the mad cow pandemic?…only to compromise your health because it's "not that bad". You breaking your leg isn't that bad either because less than 2% of people that do die. Lol pls. Good luck in your quarantine goals on the way back home, I'm sure work would be thrilled. Just make sure you have an extra 2 weeks up your sleeve.

      • +2 votes

        To be fair, what's happening in the current hotspots is largely moot. Once the world hits pandemic stage the efforts will likely swiftly switch away from containment. So no more quarantine.

        Once a virus progresses beyond the point that it can be contained, quarantining people becomes largely futile. The focus shifts to things that slow the virus's spread through the population.

        This is a good read.

        … what’s about to change: the end of most quarantines, travel restrictions, contact tracing, and other measures designed to keep “them” from infecting “us,” and the switch to measures like canceling mass events designed to keep us from infecting each other.

      • +7 votes

        Yes misrepresenting the facts aka way more people have it and have died, especially in China.

        Yep, CCP are a bunch of lying commie c**ts who cannot be trusted.

  • +3 votes

    I was meant to be on my cruise which which left last Saturday from Perth to Asia. The cruise line cancelled our cruise about a week before sailing thankfully. We will receive a complete refund from the cruise line.

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    Trips booked;

    Philippines March 18 - 7 days
    Japan May 16 - 16 days

    Have no intention of cancelling either. I will be going to Europe (Poland, Germany, UK) in October but not yet booked as expecting very cheap flight options to become available.

    Went on a cruise from Feb 16 - 23. Returned unscathed except for a lighter wallet.

    • +1 vote

      Update - no longer going to Philippines. Local airlines there seem to have halted all internal flights to / from Manila under a government order whcih completely messes up our island-hopping schedule. Citizens of countries with Covid-19 local transmission banned (not clear if Austrlia is included or not) as are citizens from countries that have travel bans on Filipinos.

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        Yep, the Philippine domestic aircraft travel ban to/from Manila has killed our trip too.

        Originally was scheduled to go to Cebu via Hong Kong on April 6th - 28th on Cathay Pacific, but they cancelled our flight and agreed to refund when the Hong Kong travel ban was announced by the Philippine government.

        Rebooked with Philippine Airlines to go direct to the Philippines for the same dates to bypass the Hong Kong ban, but now this has occurred, I'll take it as a sign. Will be contacting PAL tomorrow and see if we can get a refund, if not, then a voucher for future travel. Hotels were pre-paid and non-refundable so worst case that's a loss, but maybe they'll give a voucher for future use, considering we can't get there now because of this.

        • +1 vote

          All international flights into Manila cancelled from March 20 for I think 30 days (not sure of exact timing).

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      Update - no longer going to Japan as Virgin has cancelled all international flights until mid-June. I will try to reschedule trip to the UNSW mid-semester break at end of August. I like to support Virgin but hope they make a cash refund rather than a future credit as I would prefer to book the best flight option rather than be tied into a Virgin flight as I really doubt they will be making daily flights by August. I suspect that they will launch the service at 2 or 3 times per week.

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    I'm meant to be flying out to Thailand in few weeks.

    Still undecided whether to cancel or not. I'll likely make a call within the last week.

    I used my Amex flight credits for this trip, apparently the credits don't get refunded on cancellation.

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      I pulled the plug yesterday and cancelled three days from heading off.

      In the end, it wasn't the concern that I my catch corona while away. Rather, the uncertainty around the escalating restrictions on both ends and flight disruptions.

      As of yesterday, the thai government had announced withdrawal of visa on arrival for all 18 countries that had that arrangement. For countries like Australia that are visa exempt, we were unaffected, but the situation was way too volatile to stomach.

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        I’m going on Wednesday, wasn’t really worried before but these last couple of days have got me sweating a bit. Wondering if it’s going to be a bit of a ghost town in Phuket next week.

        Seems like the visa suspensions might me on hold though? Although I can only find one other reference besides this one https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/coronavirus-thaila...

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          We weren't impacted by the visa changes since Aussies are via exempt, but if you've been following various announcements, there's understandably been a lot of confusion all round - mainly driven by a rather scatter-gun approach to policy.

          That we a deal breaker for me. Having to deal with written policy vs random interpretations thereof vs what is actually happening on the ground was way too much for an already difficult situation.

          (For the 18 countries, the change was off for about a day, then on again.)

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          Oh… I meant to mention.

          One of the more recent additions to policy is the addition of a new form that you may have to complete before going through Thai customs.

          The preferred way of filling it out is via a smartphone app - the theory is that you fill it in, submit it and show the customs officer the acknowledgement screen. (I have no idea how the app is meant to work if you have more than one person in your party and not enough smartphones to go around :| )

          If you don't have data roaming on your smartphone, you may wanna pre-download the app. Search for the "AOT Airports" app in the AppStore/Google Play Look for the big red COVID-19 button.

          Good luck!

  • +2 votes

    Yes + wife

    I see what your doing there…

  • +1 vote

    was going to hong kong Taiwan in april but the airline already cancelled our flights so we didn't have a choice

    will be going to japan in june unless they cancel my flights on that as well

    and LA and vegas in November too early to say what will happen

    need to think about
    - not about catching the virus but who you could potentially spread it to. eg if you had a close family member that you live with that has a respiratory illness, I think its irresponsible for you to go putting that person at risk even though they themselves didn't go anywhere.
    - potential for quarantine, time is money not everyone can afford to stay away from family and work for extended periods of time.
    - going on holidays but the destination your going to suddenly turns into a ghost town, or is suddenly affected by the virus the vibe and environment may not be a pleasurable experience.

    on the flip side, depending on location and style holiday

    • being quarantined in a seaside resort cant be that bad
    • less tourists in certain places
    • accommodation and travel is cheaper
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      Yes personally I am not concerned if I catch this virus - chances I feel are slim in any case.

      My biggest issue/concern is 1. people judging/ worrying about me (if I do / don't have it) and 2. actual having it and not knowing it and may be passing it.

      • +1 vote

        a friend of mine pulled out of a boys trip recently only because his wife has pretty severe asthma if she caught the virus the likely hood of her being really ill is a high chance. you just got to pick your battles.

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      being quarantined in a seaside resort cant be that bad

      I'm more concerned about one of us actually catching it and getting slugged with a huge hospital bill that travel insurance won't cover.

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        nobody wants a bill like that.

        having said that being quarantined is different to being ill requiring medical care

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    Japan mid April for a week, still going at this point.

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    August 14th to the 29th.
    Greece
    Only just booked 2 weekends ago and got travel insurance through covermore so we can cancel anytime. So yes we are still going. Flying bne - sin - ath

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    Getting married overseas - Italy - Travelling all over Europe as part of a Buddy/ Honeymoon. All going ahead.

  • +1 vote

    Japan in June for 18 days.. Not sure what's going to happen.. We booked business seats on points and paid taxes.. Don't really know if Qantas will refund the points? Assume we will pay a 5k points cancel fee? Can't even get them on chat to ask them.

    If they cancel the Olympics we will probably cancel the trip :(

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    KUL in July
    I'll make a decision in June
    Right now it looks OK

  • +1 vote

    I’m also going to Thailand on the day you leave. Thinking it should be ok.

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    Koh samui in May
    Italy in September

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    Private jet to my private island so no problems here

  • +3 votes

    2weeks from now going to Europe then Canada/US then Japan/Taiwan on our way back to AU. Flights has not been cancelled by our airlines so husband and I are still going. Who know what will happen during those 5weeks. No kids so if we get the virus at least we lived our lives to the fullest.

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    Arrived in Tokyo 2 days ago after Cathay Pacific flights cancelled 25/2 and rebooking with Air Malaysia. I am out of the way in Hakuba snowboarding though.

    Had a good laugh at all the nuffies wearing face masks on the plane. Not too worried.

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    I arrived in Korea last week just a few days before it started to get really bad. Honestly it has been pretty good, I've never seen Seoul so empty. Usually you have to wait up to a few hours or have a reservation to get into the popular restaurants and attractions but I've been able to walk in easily everywhere. If the airlines weren't cancelling services and you're young and healthy, it would've been a great time to visit. Sadly I have to return two weeks early from my trip because my airline has cancelled services.

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    Booked a flight to Japan for the fam in Sept school holidays, hope it should be cleared out by then…

  • +1 vote

    Auckland - April 2-6 YES
    Bali - May 20-27 NOT SURE
    Kuala Lumpur- Oct 13-20 NOT SURE

    I have a 19 month old, I initially wasn’t worried about it but after all the media coverage regarding the virus it’s starting to freak me out plus my family chiming in. Bali will be our first family holiday plus celebrating hubby’s 30th so I hope everything’s ok then.

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