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[NSW] Free Food for Socially Isolated, Elderly, International Students & Needy @ Guru Nanak Free Kitchenette Sydney

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GNFKS (GURU NANAK’s FREE KITCHENETTE SYDNEY) has decided to distribute freshly cooked vegetarian food in take away food containers and fresh fruit to the Homeless, Socially isolated, Very Old people and International Students on Friday, Saturday and Sunday (27th, 28th and 29th March 2020)
(See the attached flyer for place and time)

If you want to donate food or money or want food for yourself,
Please send a message on 0434 631 379 or 0414 262 830

Poster on the FB page - https://ibb.co/mSM7brp

*Please support and take care of yourself!
Thank you!

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  • +29

    Fully Sikh contribution.

  • +25

    This community never disappoint…they always rise when there is crisis!

  • -4

    Thanks, ordered 10.

    • +1

      Why the negs? How do people know he’s not a socially isolated neckbeard?

    • +11

      If you are in need, happy they could help you. Stay safe!

      • +9

        Thanks!

        My post was meant to be a joke. It just seems likes a very OzBargainy thing to say. Don't worry, I didn't order anything.

        I think what you guys are doing is very sweet. Keep up the good work!

    • +2

      Lol @ the negs - people need to know how to take a joke!!

  • +10

    Great initiative.

    Please put in place ground markers, witches hats, or similar to ensure maximum social distancing for everyone involved including people waiting.

    Be aware that failure to do so and strictly enforce it may result in $5000 fines for the organisers and $1000 per individual fines.

    These laws were brought into force as of midnight last Wednesday and are already being enforced with fines already issued.

    Please place markers and have masked social distance monitors, suggest in hi vis vests, as well as LARGE, CLEAR, social distancing signs such as:

    ALWAYS STAY AT LEAST
    1.5M APART OR FACE $1000 FINES IN NSW.

    Staff serving and preparing also need to maintain 1.5m minimums.

    Fantastic generosity.

    Don't want it jeopardised by any of the above.

    Maybe call local police for advice.

    People can notify breaches of social distancing rules by reporting them to Crimestoppers on 1800 333 000.

    Event organisers need to be extremely careful about all of the above.

    Good luck and thank you.

    Details on the social distancing rules:

    https://preview.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/public-health-orders

    https://www.google.com/search?q=nsw+police+social+distancing…

    • -2

      Most of them could be Sikh religion followers

      • +13

        When they hand out food, volunteers dont discriminate on any basis.
        That was one of the reasons the religion took birth !

      • +9

        "Serving without Boundaries" is their motto. While they have been inspired by Sikhism principle of "Wand Chakna" meaning sharing with others, they want to help everyone who is in need. Even volunteers involved with them are from different religions and communities.

    • +14

      They are one of the demographic most at risk of job losses ….

      • +2

        And also, since you know the economy is not looking particularly bright, and unemployment rate is rising, and university are now available through distance studying.

        Shouldn't it be better for international students to return home and thereby increase the chance of Australian finding jobs or retaining their current jobs?

        Very controversial views, let's see how it goes

        • +1

          Don't you think it is the point you made that makes you less employable than others who are more inclusive?

          • +2

            @gila24: Like if you have 20 jobs available with 20 Australians and 4 non- Australians, then who ever is best should get the job

            However, if you have 5 jobs with 20 Australians and 4 non-Australians, I think it is fair that the inclusive policy does not applied.

            It is the typical question you see in movies, if you see a group of people going to drown, and you could only save a few, who would you save.

            I would save the people closer (relationship wise) to me

            • +1

              @ln28909: Why should non-Australians get the job. International students are all self-serving.

              • @Emerald Owl: What does that even mean? They work to get money for themselves? As opposed to Australians who all work on a voluntary basis?

        • +6

          Well I doubt those views are that controversial - it's a deeply racist and xenophobic country.

          But:

          1) What about their financial obligations in Australia like property leases? Should they continue paying for that, or should their landlords have to suffer a sudden loss of income?
          2) How are they supposed to get home? Will you be paying the exorbitant prices for a flight? Will you be covering them if they get stuck in a transit point given borders are rapidly closing with zero notice?
          3) What are they supposed to do when they get home? Should they campaign to expel Australians so they can try and take their jobs?
          4) When the distance learning ends, do you expect them to come back - or should they just ditch the qualification at that point? When they get back, are you going to help them start all over again in a country most likely in a deep recession or are they on their own?

          • -1

            @callum9999: All valid questions and of course can't be answered to everyone satisfaction, but let's give it a go

            1) should not be funded by Australian government, if they could cut a deal with the landlord, I.e. lower cancellation fee or etc. If they can't, there's currently more for the government to worry about, so bad luck I guess.

            2)the COVID19 is uncertain, dependent on your risk appetite, you believe the suffering of loss of income is manageable and things will get back to normal in reasonable timeframe, then stay. Otherwise, cut your losses and leave now before things get worse

            3)it is assumed that these people have lost their source of income so when new opportunities open, it should be prioritised for the country's citizens, which they could also choose to implement

            4)it is too far ahead with little of information to make an informed judgement. However, think of it this way, studying abroad is a form of investment, there is a potential to fail and if you fail that means there is a lack in your preparation or simply bad luck, and you have to be able to accept that

            • +2

              @ln28909: 1) Not how a civilized country (or person) acts.

              2) Well yes, that's exactly how it's working right now - how does that support your argument?

              3) Why is that assumed?

              4) You absolutely do not need to expect a foreign country to deport you half way through your course because they've decided they don't care about foreigners. Nor is it simply a "lost investment" - how callous! Even if you have no morals, damaging the educational sector - a huge source of income for the Australian economy - is hardly wise, is it.

              I find it especially amusing that this country is so full of racists and xenophobes when it's literally built on immigration. Perhaps white folk should be banned from getting a job until Aboriginals achieve full employment first?

              • @callum9999: You miss the argument I suppose, I didn't argue that international students should get deported but rather receive no support or support only after Australians have been taken care of first.

                It is up to them whether to stay or leave however, they shouldn't be able to claim for financial hardship,as that is the probable risk of studying abroad which is originally directed at the comment that they are a population at risk of losing their jobs

                • @ln28909: I didn't miss the argument, you've completely changed it from "they shouldn't be allowed to work" to "they shouldn't get financial support".

                  They aren't claiming for financial hardship, nor are they allowed to, so what on Earth are you objecting to?

                  And no, financial hardship is not a "probable risk" of studying abroad.

    • +13

      Most of International students are also affected due to job loses. It's about whoever is in need without judging them.

    • -1

      Working at a university which has about 50% international students . I can see your point as a lot of them drive in with fancy cars and parents have bought them homes in Sydney right next to the University. When I say fancy I mean I have seen Ferrari’s and Maserati’s.

      • +10

        Also alot of them (namely from India/Nepal) are also out doing UberEats at 2AM and working 40 hours in less than min. wage jobs to get by.

        • Yeah, also true, so I wonder what would be the proportion, at my uni it is probably 50 50,

          and also apparently, food delivery pays better than some jobs i.e. have a mate quits domino and Ubereats instead

          • +2

            @ln28909: It would be a fraction, no way it would be 50 50

            • +2

              @Baghern: nah, I'm fairly confidence with this assumption for the bigger Sydney uni, there is about 25% international students as my uni and pretty much anyone with a few thousands dollar of clothing and accessories on them is an international student, and you actually see them quite often in the uni, so it definitely wouldn't be a fraction

        • +2

          I am not sure how thats possible at least in my uni where they are paying 10s of thousands of dollars per semester, my understanding at least with my university is majority will have to come from extremely wealthy parents. Now as a side job to pass the time and make extra cash its possible they are doing this plus also doing jobs where they dont need to claim income since they may not be allowed to work more than a certain amount of hours. But whether they need to do it to survive, i struggle to believe that, again at least from the costs of being a student at my university.

          Plus are they allowed to work 40 hours on a student visa?

          • +1

            @lonewolf: the work restriction for uni student would be 40 hours per fortnight, and the type of students that are at uni on a scholarship then maybe they will struggle, but as lonewolf said, the fees is on average 3 times more expensive for international students non-deferrable.

            Then, it would be fair to assume that these students' parent would have saved up a chunk of money before sending their children abroad. If they are to be living month to month, then what if they run out of money half way through their study, then it would have been for nothing. So from that, it seems reasonable to say that the people doing UberEats don't fall under the "normal" student category.

            Most likely that they could be mature students doing a master or postgraduate with the intention of obtaining Australian citizenship, then, I don't feel bad for them. This would be the price that they have to pay if they want to be a citizen of a country with such a high level of welfare in Australia.

            • +2

              @ln28909: I agree with this. Working on the professional / admin side of the University, besides what a lot of the academics tell me / gossip about. I am also privy to more detailed information on the students side of things, my experience has been they are either very wealthy or at least come from a very wealthy family. In most cases far more wealthier than the local students doing the same course. They are usually upper end of the income levels from their countries that come as international students. The exceptions i have seen are where some of them may not have wealthy parents but wealthy uncles / aunts who live here who then pay for them to come do their studies here and live at their homes. Some of these students do try to do extra hours / more work than allowed so sometimes go for jobs which are cash in hand, because they may feel like they want to have their own income and not have to rely on their extended family. But i wouldnt put them in the same category as someone who is living from paycheck to paycheck and if they lose their job they lose their home / university degree.

      • +1

        But you don't notice the "lot of them" who look like any other student, do you!!

        Living in shared housing, working hard for a bit of money in often totally crap jobs (which have now mostly evaporated), sending money back home if they can.

        • +1

          I'm just saying why put the description of international students when it is arguable that there is a high percentage of them being quite wealthy, if it is aimed at international student in need, then why not just put people in need

      • +1

        A lot? or just a visible minority….

      • I think you're only thinking about this in the context of your Uni. I agree that there might be one or two demographics where it is true that they have a lot of money and are looked after, but I would argue that the majority of International Students are studying in those pseudo-colleges that teach English, accounting, etc and are basically VISA re-sellers. The vast majority of them work in the Hospitality industry, which at the moment is one of the hardest hit. Some may be able to keep their jobs, but a lot have been let go.

        Those students, whilst may be from better off families overseas will be unable to get support from their families here, the exchange rate won't help them, also the cost of goods and services here is much higher than overseas, so if the family is able to send them some help, it won't be very much.

        WARNING: Many people won't like this.

        The problem is that most people are only looking at this as an economic problem. Where in fact its a problem that's hitting us from many different angles. We need to start putting people above everything else. It's the basis of everything we do. Without people, there is no economy, no businesses, no consumers, no tax payers. We are the base of it all.

        The PM finally said something that makes sense, we all need to share the burden of what is to come. But they're still counting on the little people to shoulder it. The thing to understand here is that the people, businesses and Gov. that for a long time have made millions/billions are now the ones that need to take on that burden (whether they like it or not), because they are the only ones that are financially able to, the working poor have no chance. This, as ironic as it is, will be how they save themselves, as when things start taking on a semblance of what they used to be (the old way of doing things is now long gone!), people will recognise the fact that they helped and continue using their products or services, else people won't have the money or just choose to forego those products/services essentially signing a company's death.

        It's a complex situation, but we need to take care of all of those that are now inside of our borders. Humans first! In the international students context they were good enough to be here to study/work and pay taxes, they are good enough to be taken care of! In the end, most will pay rent to an Australian landlord, they purchase their goods from an Australian business, they LIVE here.

  • Aren't we all "socially isolated", or meant to be?

    • +3

      socially distanced not isolated.

  • +5

    It is the spirit of a lot of these Indian communities that makes it a unique country in Asia. I was just reading about the current lockdown there and a lot of community-run organisations and NGOs (non-government organisations) have come in forefront to help the needy with free food, groceries and fruits/vegetables on a daily basis. A lot of people and corporates have started free food kitchens and grocery delivery services to help the community. Their working hand-in-hand with the government is making the shock much more bearable for the country of that size and that level of income disparity. I believe there is something to learn for many other countries from this model.

    • -1

      The govt of India has taken a break from bigotry and sending out people of a particular religion due to Cvid-19.

      I wish more of the Sikh brothers and sisters helped to run that nation.

      • sending out people of a particular religion due to Cvid-19

        The infection of virus is widespread across the country I believe and not limited to one region. Sending out some people to where? From whole country? Also, aren't the porous borders now locked? You got to be kidding.

        • -1

          I am talking about their plans before Covid-19? Are you ignorant being an indian? They want to use CAA, NPR and other draconian measures to deport ppl from India..Covid 19 interfered with their plans/.

          • -1

            @axlfan: While it's a different topic to this thread and not very suitable, I reckon you are being ignorant of the whole border infiltration issue which has been long standing. Like many other countries, India has had its share of pain from porous eastern borders and I will let the democratic state (fairly large that is) decide how to best fix the damage that has already occurred.

            'Sending out people of a particular religion' comment is very naive and immature from any sensible person, irrespective of your knowledge about the issues in question and government's actual plans (or 'draconian measures' in your terms), if you knew what numbers you're referring to and the feasibility of that thought in your own wild imagination. Please stop spreading fake and misleading news if you don't know the reality, is what I would advise. We are talking of unreal stuff here - it's not even worth debating. I appreciate your comment above and I rest this topic to peace.

            • @virhlpool: 'Sending out people of a particular religion' = The CAA actually doesn't allow people of a particular religion citizenship. So it is your ignorance here. This is not my imagination but fact so save it please. The last time a government tried such logic was in the 1930's by nazi Germany and we know how that turned out.

              • @axlfan: So you mean 300 million people? Get real, mate. At least try to be honest to yourself.

                Also, for your info, CAA isn’t meant for Indian citizens in the first place. You need to learn more about it before spreading the baseless rumours.

                • @virhlpool: 300 million people? Where did you get that number from? Is it actually distributed among the offshore sleeper cells?
                  The CAA has been called discriminatory by many human rights groups so there is no argument there. Excluding refugees of one faith and combining the NCR to "weed out illegals" when your country is a 3rd world developing nation where people dont even have their own documents let alone documents of their parents. How will anyone determine who stays and leave?

                  I hope you can see this atleast. India is throwing bleach at its own poor migrants. Such a pathetic and terrible thing to do. Now lets see you try to spin this in a positive light.
                  https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/coronavirus-india-lockdown-d…

    • +4

      The 12-2pm - All social distancing measures are being followed strictly. People looking after this event wear masks and gloves and maintain distance. Disposal containers were packed and kept outside their house to be picked up maintaining social distancing and given to people who have specifically requested only to avoid any queuing up.

      In the evening 5-7pm - They are only supporting the food drive by the meals on wheels organisers.
      And I believe Meals on wheels will have strict social distancing measures in place.

      There are many restaurants doing the same allowing people to pickup food containers from the site.

    • +1

      So did you call that number on everyone you see not following the rules or do you have any underlying problem with just this post?

      Also do describe us precisely how you are isolating yourself or how are you maintaining that 1.5 meter distance?

  • +15

    The Sikh/Indians do this all the time. You never see this in mainstream media though.

    Someone gives free coffee to those lining up at Centrelink and it is headline news.

    • +13

      Well said. Being a Sikh myself, the reason is because of compassion rather than publicity.

      The food has been free for over 500 years hail,rain or shine they serve food 3 times a day regardless you are a Sikh or not!

      • +4

        +1 from another Sikh brother

  • +1

    Thank You

  • +5

    Sikhs are awesome, they live by their motto that goes like victory in war & victory in charity.

  • +4

    I love Australia. So many migrant communities, as well as local Born and bred generational Aussies, coming together to lend a hand.

    I too come from a family of migrants - and cannot be more proud of calling Australia home.

    No wonder they call it God's Country - Fair Dinkum!

  • +3

    Great job and hats off to the Sikh community.

  • Sometimes I find myself being critical of religion. But so many religious people are engaged in acts of service.

    Of course, not only religious people engage in acts of service. But it does affirm my faith in humanity to see religion bring people together, rather than encouraging separation.

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