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[QLD] Surgical Masks $2 and N95 Masks $5 @ Hanaro Mart Sunnybank

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Seems to be a good price considering the current market conditions.

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  • -8

    Brand?

    Country of Origin?

    1000% price increase for potentially shit masks that don't meet certification?

    Yeah, no.

    • +2

      Sourced from Korea according to the staff in the store. Didn't notice any branding on them. Have you really seen these being sold for 20c/50c? Anyway, supply and demand I guess.

        • +17

          Because if you're an asymptomatic carrier, it will stop more droplets than just your elbow.
          It's just human decency.

          It's not perfect, but it doesn't need to be. Viruses require a level of concentration to infect.

          Edit: Someone negged me because they're embarrassed I'm right, lol.
          Even if it's just a fabric layer over your own face, I've never seen a medical professional say that using, for example, a tissue, is a bad idea.
          Covering your own cough\sneeze is critical.

  • +2

    These aren't medical grade.

    • +1

      N95 masks have a better seal than “medical grade” masks.

  • +2

    I think we should be wearing masks as it stops us transferring the Corona Virus to our face via our hands. We touch our face all the time and its a really hard habit to kick.

    I do not agree that we should be wearing surgical masks or better due to there being a shortage in this and other countries. Leave them for our health workers and first responders.

    Also you will have people thinking that you are being selfish even it pretend ones like we often see now.

    I suggest people buy those black ones that cyclist and motorbike riders wear that hook behind the ears, they won't do a good job of filtering the virus in the air but they will most definitely stop you touching your face with your hands.

    • +1

      Surgical masks aren't anything special. They are just designed to stop large particles entering your mouth (blood, pus, saliva, etc.) and to prevent the spreading of these large particles when coughing/sneezing. Also handy to help break the face-touching habit I guess.

    • -1

      Many health professionals caught SARS because they did not remove face masks in a safe manner. Don't think it's going to stop you touching your face.

    • +1

      Leave masks to health professionals? No, the best you can do is to protect yourself first, wear a mask or not. That way you do not get sick and become a ‘burden’ or patient - that is helping health professionals!

      If mask is no use in terms of prevention, why ‘health professionals’ wear them? Because they are afraid passing to the patients? It’s the other way around, right?

      • +5

        Health professionals treating COVID-19 patients wear these along with protective glasses or face shield. They are really the front line soldiers in this fight. Mask alone won't protect you from getting it. Don't be selfish and give useless excuses. Either surgical masks or DIY cloth mask will suffice for most people unless you're in a high risk job.

      • +1

        What an incredibly selfish thing to say. The health professionals are facing sick people, every day, they need to be protected. You might, if unlikely, come across someone who is sick but, if you are social isolating, you are unlikely to catch anything. Even if you do become sick the odds are you will be OK unless you are over 60. Leave the masks to the professionals and make your own, if you want cover. There are plenty of sites that give instructions.as a general rule health professionals wear masks to avoid contaminating a patient.

    • Your argument is flawed and illogical.

  • +5

    I'm now DIY mask to save it for medical staff, or for covidiot to buy this non-FDA approved masks.

  • +4

    You wouldn't buy surgical mask from an Asian grocery shop?

  • +1

    Wait, is that price per mask? Wtf, at that price i’ll just take my chances with carona

    • corona

    • +6

      Car owner

    • +1

      At that price you're prolly better of getting a couple of bottles of Corona and enjoy it.

  • +1

    Is this 1 N95 Mask for $5 from a grocery??

    How much would a 20 pack of Honeywell ones fetch?

    • $35-$50 USD normally so basically the same as this deal and of course there is no stock available from Honeywell at that price.

  • +1

    For all we know it’s a piece of tissue paper with two elastic bands stapled to the sides.

    More detail required.

  • -5

    N95 masks were $5.49 at chemist warehouse before the chinese wurus.

    https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/64710/proshield-n95-…

    $5 seems like a reasonable price if they are good quality and actually true N95.

    (make sure you keep the old masks so your widow can have them scientifically tested and sue the korean grocer if it turns out these are fake N95 and you cark it)

  • +4

    I am eternally grateful to ozbargain deal that I bought a pack of 20 Honeywell P2 masks at $11.11 at Amazon during the bushfire season.

    • +5

      So did I. We are also friends of an ER doctor and GP. They need it much more than us and will get it gratis.

      • +2

        But 20 masks barely last a week for 1 person….

        They are disposable and need to be changed at ~4hrs of wear time.

        • +3

          It's better than nothing. Hopefully others will donate if they can.

        • 4hrs? That's a bloody waste. The n95 ones I got say 8hrs on the box, and I'm taking that as a legal-mumbo-jumbo conservative figure.

          Especially if you're not a medico where you'll be fine even if it's working at a slightly used/degraded level.

        • I have been able to hand-wash with soap and water and re-use mine. Also, the 4 hours is for continual use, I wear mine only in areas where I am not sure I can keep others 1.5m away like while shopping for groceries, about 30 mins max. Amazing how many people dont get social distancing and intrude into your 1.5m envelope.

    • Likewise

  • +1

    Averagely expensive.

  • -1

    Western countries are not used to wearing mask, that’s why the Virus spread so quickly in Europe, US and AUS compare with Asia countries. So, masks definitely help.

    • +7

      Or could it be people actually stayed home in Asian countries and took it serious vs people here who thought it was a great idea to visit Bondi in large numbers?

      Correlation doesn’t mean causation.

      • Yep. Agree with you, in Asia countries, people still go out like night market, but most people are wearing mask.
        I think wearing mask is protect yourself and others. You never know who is infected around you.

      • Or could it be that their doors were welded shut by the Government?

    • +1

      You mean like China, Korea and Indonesia where is hasn't spread fast?

      • I mean like Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong,

        • Talk about cherry picking your point. Last i checked China and Korea are in Asia. And Japan was hiding their infection rate in the hope that the Olympics wont be cancelled. They have banked everything on the Olympics. Now that its been posponed. Suddenly theres an increase in report on infection. And if a culture of wearing mask and mask can 'protect' you from the virus. Then why did it spread like wildfire in Asian countries? Lots of contradictions there. I would say that the lazy and 'she'll be right m8' attitude by the west is the cause of the spread of the disease rather than not wearing a mask.

          • @Finarfin: j00828 was trying to sell masks in this Deal - they had a vested interest in promoting that view!

            • @INFIDEL: If so, why did j00828 not tick the 'associated' button?

              • +2

                @Finarfin: They're associated with their own wallet (private selling of masks), not this merchant hanaromart😉

    • +4

      masks definitely help… (me make money!)

      Just because people are seen wearing masks does not prove masks are effective at all in protecting people from this virus in social interaction.

      As gamemaster correctly stated Correlation doesn’t mean causation - something drummed into anyone studying higher level statistics & designing research! That's so they don't make a foolish & misleading claim like you do.

      Masks are worn for different reasons by groups. It's often the custom. Sometimes it's just polite to wear them when in crowds. I've done that in Tokyo. Just as not blowing your nose but instead snorting & sniffling is the custom in some cultures - which worries many visitors to Japan!

      25 million in Japan have hayfever, so wear masks every year at this time of year. Visitors were saying the masks were worn out of fear of this virus, which was wrong. Those masks are designed to filter the large particles of pollen from the Sugi trees.

      What works in one country or culture does not necessarily work elsewhere. That's a far too simplistic assumption!

      I've been through the H1N1 (swine flu) in Asia. Before that, Asia was the most affected by SARS. So they were better prepared to deal with this Pandemic than us. Singapore had a special hospital & clinic system in place - just waiting for this outbreak!

      And in general the culture there is far more amenable to enforced controls, whereas we value personal rather than group outcomes. We don't like tracking of our location by CCTV & other surveillance that can ensure compliance with isolation / track who we may have passed the virus onto & certainly don't want our doors welded shut as reported in China… It's not just masks that make us different!

      We are a far less tightly packed culture here. Most do not live in small apartments with 3 generations of family as friends do in Italy. With few working, I hardly see anyone on public transport or at the shops - it's so dead. So almost no close contact to need a mask for most people.

      Leave the masks for the health carers!

      And as medical experts warn, wearing a mask can give the person a false sense of security - leading to lessened spatial vigilance & hygiene. Incorrect use of the mask can increase the potential for infection!

      But if infected - stay in isolation & wear a mask if instructed by medical staff.

      You've already been caught trying to sell masks in this Deal (below) - you had a vested interest in saying that!

  • 1.5 months ago, when real n95 face masks were still available on Amazon, I bought 40 those 3m n95 with valve. It was $200 for 40, sent from America. I thought it was expensive… Now i saw priceline selling 5 those doggy looking blue surgical face masks for $22?

    • +2

      Pity health professionals around the world have to lose out & risk their lives by people stocking up against health advice not to!

      I won't be buying masks.

      • -1

        i was on my way to japan. at that moment, this chinese virus wasn't spreading to the other european countries expect italy and japan was one of the high risk countries. now, if i believe the numbers reported by media, australia is just as miserable as japan.
        i'm back and have finished my isolation, thankfully no symptom, i wore those n95 everyday in japan, not sure if they've helped me. cool story, isn't it.

        • Trust you still enjoyed yourself in Japan. I've only worn a mask in Japan out of courtesy years ago, when I had a cold in Tokyo.

          Was in Japan & S Korea in 2009 during H1N1 pandemic. Lots of temperature checks, but lots less panic! Few wore masks then.

          • @INFIDEL: I was in China during H1N1, got myself nice and sick and spent a week and a bit quarantined in an infectious diseases hospital.

            Lots of needle stabbing by nurses and lots of boredom without any internet back in the day.

            • -1

              @MatthewTeng: Sorry to read that.
              In the last week at shops, I've met 3 people who had H1N1, most in S Korea. All hated the experience - so long ago.

              Yes - no internet then, but we didn't know it to miss it!

              Watched an older woman reading a book the other day - totally lost in the experience. I thought how lucky she was.

  • +2

    Wear any masks regardless it's cotton or surgical or any sort when you are going outside for necessary shopping in that way we can reduce infection rate. Look at those countries successfully handle the Covid19. Everyone on the street they wear masks. Don't worry too much of standard (ofcourse I don't mean tissue paper masks)

    Btw, it seems a little expensive to be a bargain.

    • +1

      googles too if possible

    • +1

      Anything covering the face does help to stop hands from touching face. Most people will catch this virus from touching droplets sitting on surfaces and then touching their face. I see supermarkets are closing self checkouts due to all the screen touching and button pushing. Transfer to mouth, nose or eyes is the biggest threat. Cover it and help protect yourself. (Just don't use surgical masks or better as our health workers need them more)
      I just use an old black cycling dust mask, useless for stopping virus in the air but it is very effective in stopping the hands from touching my face inadvertently. Carefully remove and wash it in warm soapy water, sun to dry… works a treat.

    • +1

      There were many other factors than just masks that led to differences in outcomes.

      I wouldn't trust that graph!
      You do not give any link to the original document or it's source. That is a worrying sign! There is no date or indication of where those numbers are drawn from.

      As previously commented - correlation (that 2 things happen at the same time) doesn't mean causation (that one thing can be shown to cause the other). Otherwise it's just snake oil - it sounds like it is true, so we want it to be true.

      And the Pandemic isn't over - it's the final outcome that matters. Only after it is over will we be wiser.

      In the past, early success in lowering the rate of spread of a virus has been followed by a dramatic spike in cases!!

      It's too early to draw conclusions!

      • +1

        Generic masks aren't anywhere near 100%, but combined with social distancing washing hands and other measures, it will help immensely.

        The West are already starting to change their tune on wearing -anything- over the mouth and nose. I'm sure you will soon hear the US etc officially announce this. I believe it's now being enforced in Austria and the Czech republic in enclosed public areas.

        Besides, WHO said that masks don't help. With their track record on advice since this started it's safe to say doing absolutely the opposite is a better idea.

        • Yeah, go out and party. Mingle with a lot of people. Given the WHO advice is social distancing I, sure you will be fine by ignoring it. WHO is trying to save masks for the people who really need it. If you want a mask make your own, there are plenty of web sites. I’m going to find it interesting if it turns out a bunch of infections are due to people taking off their contaminated masks, incorrectly. The number of selfish people here is incredible.

        • +1

          It was on news last night the WHO brainiacs have done 180 and encourages ALL people out in public, infected or not to wear mask or any other face covering like scarf, bandanna will greatly reduce the risk of directly inhaling airborne saliva or snot particles from an infected person.

          • @deltakilo: The overwhelming message is make your own mask and let the people who really need them have the disposable ones.

        • WHO just says whatever they are paid to say from the top contributor countries.

          They even said don't wash hands if not visibly dirty. What a bunch of crap

          • -1

            @Poor Ass: https://www.institutmontaigne.org/en/blog/fighting-coronavir…

            A nice timeline of their splendid work.

            It's important to note that WHO condemned the Aus/us/world for banning entry from Chinese internationals, just stopping short of calling it racism themselves.
            Now that china are doing it, that's ok.

            • @fusion17: Ya stopping the spread isn't racist it's logical. Just happens to be a certain region this time that is targeted.

              But I still wouldn't trust every word of the WHO

      • -1

        I hope you don't discriminate against people who wear masks

        • -1

          Absolutely not. I often talk reassuringly to people wearing masks, recognising they may be fearful & feel more isolated. My background is in Social Psychology & Mathematics.

          Besides, most I've seen are using basic masks that may be useless for medical workers.

          But when we've calmly chatted they usually say they are only buying & wearing masks because others are. Much the same reason for buying loads of toilet paper, because others are & they may be affected if they don't. That is referred to as social contagion!

          Their use of masks is based on their own fears. It is not based on any evidence for effectiveness of use here. Given that it is extremely unlikely anyone is infected close to them.

          The probability of infection given good hygiene & social distancing in uncrowded spaces is almost 0. But people's fear is never based on probability.

          Use of those very limited masks now is unnecessary outside of health care & some essential workers, unless in close contact with an infected person or you are infected.

          When production is ramped up to a level where health workers have adequate supplies, it could make sense for others to wear masks.

          If health care workers get sick or die due to lack of masks - that just raises the risk for all of us!!

          • -1

            @INFIDEL: This fear is pushing people to steal masks & sanitizer from a hospital

            Just leave the masks for health care workers - their lives & our health depends on them!

          • -1

            @INFIDEL: If health workers die it's because the federal government over spent $225 billion on submarines rather than provide or manufacturer basic supplies that everyone needs. With that sum of money, everyone can get masks free. Even n95s.

            Heard a few things about TP which was interesting:

            1. Someone in Japan posted that due to tissue material being used to make masks, toilet paper might be in short supply. Then it spread like wildfire and everyone is panic buying world wide. But Australia actually makes their own TP so the panic buy doesn't make sense. Besides, can always use water and hand or courier mail.

            2. Have you notice woolies and Coles sell more of the 8 pack at like $8 rather than the bigger 24 and 36 packs which are like 50c a toll vs $1 a roll. They are really refusing to sell the big packs.

            3. Because of supply. TP prices will go up so people are stocking up now. Every one for themselves

            • -1

              @Poor Ass: If there is very limited worldwide supply of N95 masks (reportedly primarily because of shut down in manufacturing in China), how does forward spending on submarines in future years buy masks now at any price?? That makes no sense…

              But decisions on maintaining stockpiles are difficult. Singapore learnt from SARS to be prepared. It has a very different centralised control with restrictive powers over it's people we wouldn't ordinarily stand. Deng Xiaoping is said to have modeled reforms to China based on Singapore's systems!

              We tend to see pandemics like this as rarities not worth spending the time & money on. Governments are cautious of spending they can be easily criticised on.

              So preparing for wars that may never happen is OK (wins them votes), but spending in preparedness for natural disasters is rarely adequate.

              It's an aspect of the complex division of powers under our Constitution - war is solely a Commonwealth issue, health & natural disasters are primarily a State issue.


              Face masks generally sold in Japan are not N95 masks. I have a few here from my frequent trips. They are sold to the 25M sufferers of hay fever there to simply filter sugi tree pollen at this time of year. Toilet paper like material could be used on those non-medical grade masks.
              So no likely effect here!


              Woolies sent out an email this week stating sales of toilet paper: Just this week, that was over 20.5 million rolls.
              Given continuing panic buying, it would make no sense to distribute rolls in large packs - to make hoarding simpler!
              Even with restriction of 2 per purchase, 2 x 8 rolls is enough per purchase. That is if you can find supplies!


              Bubbles burst! I love the simplicity of the supply & demand curve.
              I think there is only so much tp people can hoard. Once that point is reached, demand will drop, & hopefully the supermarkets will begin discounting the oversupply!


              I haven't bought tp since late last year - always bought up large packs when on special. My bum has always been a tight arse when it comes to tp😉

              And as you say - we can survive without it. (Long ago I lived with Hindu Monks in the Himalayas - there were just the paddy fields to fertilize, & water to wash with. If I asked for tp - shop keepers would laugh at me.)


              I miss those days of incredible specials here - Ozbargainers posted photos of their mountains of toilet rolls. A simpler time before it became "panic buying"😉

            • -1

              @Poor Ass: How Surgical Masks are Made… No TP!

              The material most commonly used to make them is polypropylene, either 20 or 25 grams per square meter (gsm) in density. Masks can also be made of polystyrene, polycarbonate, polyethylene, or polyester.

            • @Poor Ass: As always, people should do a bit of basic research rather than create panic! Unfortunately there are people who enjoy spreading false information online. Others do it without thinking first.

              Best not to believe gossip on social media or information about different products used in different countries for a different purpose - for example the construction of hay fever masks in Japan.


              Social contagion (eg panic buying of tp) is easy to start but very hard to stop!

              We are social creatures, looking for clues in others behaviour - following the mob. It's our survival instinct. And it sometimes endangers others!

              We are often unaware of our motivation to behave or think in certain ways. It's an interesting field of study.

              My University research into different behaviours of recently arrived Chinese uni students & similar aged Australian uni students showed a significant difference in behaviour studied. That would surprise few, but little research has been done anywhere.

              Long ago, I designed an experiment to examine the cultural effect on behaviour of volunteers from a traditionally collective culture (China) vs a primarily individualistic culture (Australia).
              The experiment involved tasks performed with a group or individual measured outcome.
              Chinese students had a higher output in a group task whereas the Australians had a higher output on the task if working individually in a group setting.
              (The phenomenon studied was Social Loafing, where people put in less effort in group tasks. But that was found in non-Asian cultures. My study showed it varied with cultures.)

              Our culture & those around us influence our behaviour without our knowledge.

              So reduction in the spread of this virus in different groups or cultures is far more complex to determine than just if they wore a mask or not!

              We may never know if mask wearing actually helps protect people in this Pandemic - in Australia.

              Behaviours & motivations are complex to measure, whereas health statistics of confirmed cases & deaths are easy to record.

              People jump to simple conclusions to complex problems - which are usually found to be wrong.

              • -1

                @INFIDEL: FOMO

                Buy first ask questions later is the ozbargain spirit

                • @Poor Ass: Not when it may endanger others!
                  That's what can lead to shortages for those who need them the most.

  • Anyone seen Proshield N95 anywhere?

  • -2

    I find it mildly annoying when I see people wearing these these days. The fact we got to this stage saddens me. I mean people in their cars are wearing them. It’s ridiculous.

    • Why is that?

      What do you think about taxi and uber drivers wearing them?

      Or people that are sick wearing them with passengers?

      • No i mean people in their own car on their own wearing a mask. Why?

        • +1

          I think you're not supposed to take it off and on all the time.
          That constitutes using it incorrectly.

        • +1

          Ya once you wear it you're supposed to limit the amount of touches and when you take off it's bin time. Disposable ones.

          I mean you don't know where they came from or going to or you could think like as if they are sick but needed to go out and don't want to spread it around the car or later to people.

        • These masks are single use only. They’re not designed to be taken off and put back on.

  • +1

    What people can buy what is left over in masks and hand sanister at the shops in no way affect the supply to hospitals and ambulance as they have dedicated supply chains. Small fry businesses that sell protective items to the public don't affect them.

    I do feel bad for GPs as they have to find their own masks and they play a big role in flatting the curve. Majority of people buy them online and shipped from overseas which is fair game.

    Wear a mask or not. Just don't discriminate against people who wear them or pass judgement.

    • -1

      Once again, get your facts correct.

      ABC TV other night showed hospital Drs at hardware store in Brisbane buying masks & supplies to keep urgent medical treatment of sick happening in 2 hospitals & protect their workers

      GPS are trying to find masks to be able to see patients

      My GP has run out of hand sanitizer & can't source more. His receptionist is in isolation awaiting test outcome. My specialist had their toilet paper stolen.

      Majority of people buy them online and shipped from overseas which is fair game.
      Border Force are intercepting imports of fake masks etc flooding Australia! They've seized 800,000 masks.

    • -2

      As I wrote - get your facts correct.
      This is not a time to make up stories to support your own beliefs!!

      The Deputy Chief Medical Officer for Australia today strengthened the directive for the public NOT TO WEAR MEDICAL MASKS! He said those masks (N95 etc) are RESERVED for use by front line medical workers! (on TV today - should be available later online)

      Previous press conference including directive for public not to use masks Also reported in the media - But you claimed they mislead on these important Government announcements!

      The States may start enforcing that directive with fines, as they have with social distancing.

      State Health officials have been saying for weeks there is a shortage of masks to protect health workers in Hospitals when there is peak demand on health services due to the virus. But you say buying up medical masks no way affect the supply to hospitals. That is not correct according to Health Departments.

      If all of us were to use medical masks, that would be about 25M per day just in Australia! That 1 day use would keep hospitals going for ages during this crisis!! That will help protect front line medical workers we need to keep us healthy if we contract covid19😷

      But in your attack on me (removed by the Mods below) you claim I am the one who is misled - by the media. Your "facts" are made up from your mind, not based on evidence.

      Even the graph you offered earlier as evidence of the effectiveness of masks is doctored, unsourced, undated & out of date! It was pointed out it proved nothing. Singapore has since had a spike in covid19 confirmed cases, which you conveniently ignored.

      You attack Australians military spending as the reason we lack enough masks to protect health care workers… If health workers die it's because the federal government over spent $225 billion on submarines That's future spending - it hasn't been spent! How does that even equate in your mind? That's pretty disgusting.


      You ask people to Just don't discriminate against people who wear them or pass judgement.

      But that's exactly what we are told by the Government - people should not to wear medical masks. Same as we are told to social distance. It's for the good of everyone!

      (Basic cloth masks are ok, but not recommended by the Chief Medical Officer.)

      You are asking people to ignore a directive of the Australian Government?? And condone others breaking that directive!! That would not be accepted in most of the counties you praise for "controlling" the rate of spread of the virus!! Would it?

      But you use a highly offensive Cantonese term to attack me for pointing out you are not correct - which would mislead people.
      My Cantonese speaking friends were appalled by your rudeness! So maybe it's your attitude to others that causes people not to respect you?

      • -1

        "Previous press conference including directive for public not to use masks(youtu.be) Also reported in the media - But you claimed they mislead on these important Government announcements!

        The States may start enforcing that directive with fines, as they have with social distancing."

        sure mate… sounds like a bunch of crap

        • -2

          So you think Australia's top medical officers are not to be believed, but believe you? Who are you??

          (I've been in a major disaster in China where 80K people died - the Government there were saying only 4 were dead. Locals told me not to trust the Government.)
          I think we can trust our Government. Too many people are involved to allow a cover-up. But there will always be differing opinions on our approaches.

          Question is why you are misleading people during a serious health crisis??

          Encouraging people to buy up medical masks against a Government directive not to do that, as they are reserved for front line medical workers!

          And almost a million fake masks confiscated of those imported!

          Posting a comment attacking Australia's purchase of submarines? Some sources say China is not happy about the purchase.

          And why post an abusive Cantonese comment in Australia??

          What is your agenda??
          Why should anyone listen to your stories?

          And you call for people like you to be treated decently👎
          You're not one to help people treat mask wearers with respect.
          You've certainly changed my opinion.

          • -1

            @INFIDEL: Quit clogging up the page wth your long comments explaining the meaning of life

            No one is going to be fined wearing a mask. Bloody ridiculous

            You are kinda of obsessed. Let it go.

            • -2

              @Poor Ass: Have you run out of negs?

              Now you want to silence anyone who has a different view to yours.
              With nearly 18k comments, I don't silence easily😉

              Seems very familiar tactic from some groups!


              No one is going to be fined wearing a mask. Bloody ridiculous

              As ridiculous as current $1K+ fines for eating a kebab, sitting in a car, being with 2 others, etc. State Police forces are enforcing Commonwealth directives over social distancing. They can do the same if too may people waste the short supply of masks - under expanded State Health Directives.


              You are kinda of obsessed… selfishly pushing your own agenda, ignoring the health needs of others like front line medical workers as we are told to do by the Government… Let it go.

              Making up stories like you do is easy & short. Refuting them with facts is always a far longer process!

              I've hidden your useless self serving comments. Doing that reduces the size of this Deal!
              You can always do the same😉

              • -1

                @INFIDEL: not anyone just you

                wearing mask is completely different

    • Hee I've seen people wear them. Better than nothing hey but scary if the virus was trapped inside the shield

  • +1

    People can have the virus without symptoms, but spread it, therefore surgical masks are not that good at stopping you getting the virus but great at stopping you giving it to others… people wear surgical masks to ensure they are not spreading it to others AND these surgical masks are NOT USED BY HEALTH PROFESSIONALS…the N95 are supposed to be for health professionals… The normal retail price of the surgical mask is about one dollar per mask not two…Use them, it's not selfish to think that you may be a carrier and be giving it to others…Health care professionals do Not use these, quite a few chemists and discount stores are selling them right now and you are being unselfish if yiy wear a surgical mask.they also might assist the tiniest little bit, not very much, in protecting you. sigh

  • -2

    I researched and genuine N95 masks is the way to go not fake ones . Everyone needs to shop eventually and I would recommend buy from a safe place like Amazon with a 1-2 mth wait . It’s safer out there with it than without it proven on much slower curbs on graphs of countries that wore these masks .

  • +2

    The City of Miami Beach issued an emergency order today requiring all grocery store, pharmacy and restaurant employees and customers to wear face coverings to cover their noses and mouths.

    The mandate also applies to delivery service workers, according to a press release from the city.

    "Acceptable coverings may include a face mask, homemade mask or other cloth covering, such as a scarf, bandana or handkerchief, and should complement — not substitute for — social distancing practices," the statement said

    • I see only home made mask now on ebay…. will those actually work?

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