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25/5 Mbps Unlimited nbn FTTP or FTTN from $1.79/Day ($59.70/Mth) - New Customers Only/First 180 Days @ Launtel
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higherdestiny on 18/09/2020 - 09:55 residential.launtel.net.au (1781 clicks)
Last edited 18/09/2020 - 18:12 by 1 other user
EARLYADOPTER

Launtel early adopter deal is back. Discounted access for 6 months for new sign ups.

Use a referral code to get additional $25 credit.

Plus they offer a free 7 day trial and super rapid churn (it literally took me 20 minutes and I was connected with them)

For those who haven't heard of Launtel, this Tasmanian based company now offers internet to the mainland and is unique in the way that you can change your speed tier in literally minutes. Run at 25/5 during the week and crank up to 100/40 on weekends, for example.

You pay per day instead of per month and you can even pause your connection while you're away from home and not pay a cent while you're not using your connection.

Price varies depending on region so throw your details into their site to check pricing. Code earlyadopter gives you discounted rates for 6 months.

Fibre-to-the-Node (FTTN)

Residential Internet Premium - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 5Gb/Day 25/5 $2.28
Standard Unlimited 25-50/5-20 $3.15 $2.57
Fast 100 Unlimited 25-100/5-40 $3.58 $3.29

Residential Internet LoLow (plan 1) - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 Unlimited 25/5 $1.99 $1.79
Standard Unlimited 25-50/5-20 $2.28 $2.08
Fast 100 Unlimited 25-100/5-40 $3.00 $2.80

Residential Internet Premium Direct - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 5Gb/day 25/5 $1.99
Standard Unlimited 25-50/5-20 $2.86 $2.28
Home 100 Unlimited 25-100/5-20 $2.82 $2.75
Fast 100 Unlimited 25-100/5-40 $3.29 $3.00

Residential Internet LoLow (plan 2) - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 5Gb/day Unlimited $2.42 $1.99
Standard Unlimited 25-50/5-20 $2.86 $2.28
Fast 100 Unlimited 25-100/5-40 $3.29 $3.00

Fibre-to-the-Premise (FTTP)

Residential Internet Premium - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 5Gb/Day 25/5 $2.28
Standard Unlimited 50/20 $3.15 $2.57
Fast 100 Unlimited 100/40 $3.58 $3.29
Super Fast 250 Unlimited 250/100 $4.85 $4.56
Ultra Fast 500 Unlimited 500/200 $5.93 $5.64
Full Gig Unlimited 1000/400 $7.74 $7.55

Residential Internet LoLow (plan 1) - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 Unlimited 25/5 $1.99 $1.79
Standard Unlimited 50/20 $2.28 $2.08
Fast 100 Unlimited 100/40 $3.00 $2.80

Residential Internet Premium Direct - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 5Gb/Day 25/5 $1.99
Standard Unlimited 50/20 $2.86 $2.28
Home 100 Unlimited 100/20 $2.82 $2.75
Fast 100 Unlimited 100/40 $3.29 $3.00
Super Fast 250 Unlimited 250/100 $4.56 $4.27
Ultra Fast 500 Unlimited 500/200 $5.64 $5.35
Full Gig Unlimited 1000/400 $7.45 $7.16

Residential Internet LBNCo - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 5Gb/Day 25/5 $2.17
Standard Unlimited 50/20 $3.07 $2.17
Fast 100 Unlimited 100/40 $3.62 $2.89
Super Fast 250 Unlimited 250/100 $4.34 $3.98

Residential Internet LoLow (plan 2) - link to CIS

Plan Name Data Speed (Down/Up) Regular Discounted
Entry 25 Unlimited 25/5 $2.42 $1.99
Standard Unlimited 50/20 $2.86 $2.28
Fast 100 Unlimited 25-100/5-40 $3.29 $3.00 |]

Credits to Chazzozz for providing table of rates.

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  • yht on 18/09/2020 - 09:57
    +1

    Yeah right, existing customer has to cope with increase from mid Oct. I am jumping ship.

    • HardQuiz on 18/09/2020 - 10:13

      Damo is part of the OzBargain community and should address your concern.

      Most customers will chase these 6 months promotions.

      Why not make it permanent?

      • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 10:17

        Hardly. Hasn't been here for months and only commented on one deal.

    • justtoreply on 18/09/2020 - 10:16
      +1

      They also provision capacity.

      If you don't trust them to do that, up to you. It's a basic part of the isp business. They are a business and they need to grow.

    • SBOB on 18/09/2020 - 11:04

      I am jumping ship.

      same
      I'm on 50/20 FTTN at $2.28 a day (~$69 a month)
      I've had ABB and Superloop before and I find Launtel as fast as either of those two and their current availability on my POI has a heap of head room due to limited subscribers in the area so have zero speed issues

      But after the inital discount elapses and any referral credit I have is gone, $2.86/day (~$85 a month) for 50/20 is just too much of an increase when compared against the others.

      So ill continue the 6+ month round the suppliers hop but I would rate Launtel as excellent for anything looking to take advantage of their 6 month promo

    • gazer on 18/09/2020 - 11:47

      I've decided to stay after my 6mths as ABB is same price with its $10 off/mth on HFC 50/20. Can't fault the Launtel service. Content to pay a bit more than other ISPs for the speed change option. Just went off Vocus onto direct POI in SEQ too.

      • ShipShapeRC on 18/09/2020 - 13:09

        I've never jumped ISP before on NBN, how long is the down time? I just signed up to Tangerine on Aug 12 for a Sept 4th transfer from Exetel. Still not switched over and my Exetel service has ended. So far I have 9 instances of either direct lies or organisational incompetance from Tangerine. So much for working from home and homeschooling. Bloomin mobile data is taking a pounding now.

        • SBOB on 18/09/2020 - 13:18
          +1

          i have FTTN and have done ABB/Superloop/Launtel and all have been swapped over in pretty minimal time
          Best was maybe 15 mins, worst maybe an hour

          • ShipShapeRC on 18/09/2020 - 17:53

            @SBOB: Thanks so my FTTN swap over having 24 days down time is bad. Tangerine have a 15 day money back guarentee. Think I might ping them before they even connect.

            • SBOB on 18/09/2020 - 18:44

              @ShipShapeRC: Yeah 24 days would be 'its broken and no one knows why' kind of time frame

        • lexis999 on 20/09/2020 - 15:48
          +2

          Launtel often go the extra mile with customer service issues, it is worth switching just to get them onto nbn about whatever is happening, they may not be able to fix but they can chase up. Iv seen many stories of happy people get sorted who had orginally got the run around by another provider…

          Im currently with ABB but considering going back to Launtel when ABB put their price up on my 100/20 in a month or so as the price will be in the same ball park then.

  • String name on 18/09/2020 - 09:58

    How much is the discount?
    This post is vague on that detail and the hyperlink takes you to a generic sign up page.

    Ninja edit has been detected

  • mojadu on 18/09/2020 - 09:59
    +2

    My price just went up but realistically it's still less than what I was paying Exetel and I like the pause feature lol

    • dmbminaret on 18/09/2020 - 10:04

      I'm jumping from exetel too. Just looking for the right one. So far belong.

      • Ruprect on 18/09/2020 - 13:50

        If you know your usage and looking for a long term home at a reasonable price… Future Broadband have those data-banking plans….up to 5000G bankable so you can sit on a cheaper plans and use up data in the bank etc. They also offer a up to 8% discount if you pay in advance, shows up in the portal once you are a client…. so you can save that way as well.. There is also a referral voucher scheme…savings to be found for those that utilise that.

        I'm currently at Future and the network is as good as any of the top tiers at the moment. Belong have a really good 30 speed plan but I wonder about their support some times.

        If you are looking at 'unlimited' I think Superloop are probably the go to especially if you look at their 100/20 plan.

    • OZB Al on 18/09/2020 - 10:14

      I'm sticking with them too, like the fact that when I call support I talk to someone who is actually technical, not just following a script. And like the fact that they are a small company offering something more innovative than the big players.

  • dmbminaret on 18/09/2020 - 10:03
    +2

    How is this a deal? Isn't belong $55?

    https://www.belong.com.au/broadband/nbn

    • ShortyX on 18/09/2020 - 10:22
      +5
      • Daily billing
      • Ability to pause and resume
      • Ability to ramp up to a faster speed as needed then revert back to slower speed
      • dmbminaret on 18/09/2020 - 10:40

        So features, not price.

      • FLICKIT on 18/09/2020 - 10:41
        +3

        I love the pause feature, I regularly go away for a week or more at a time so it's nice to pause it and save the money, when unpausing it's usually active again in 10 mins or so…

        I'm on a grandfathered legacy plan, when I go away for months at a time I have to unpause once per month to keep my old cheaper plan active, I'm surprised they let me keep the old plan, lol …

        Launtel is kinda like Internode was in the early days, real people run it, good local support and such … Usual story, you get what you pay for…

      • Yabadabadoo on 18/09/2020 - 10:54
        -2

        Why would you want to be billed daily??
        With Belong you can move up and down (once a month) and you would need to need to pause for a week each month to save anything compared to Belong.
        This just seems very painful to manage just to save a few $ in rare instances.

        Belong is $55 for a nbn 50 plan while normal price of this is almost $70 and discounted $65 a month

        • ShortyX on 18/09/2020 - 11:07
          +3

          Belong is a 12 month contract so I guess there is more flexibility with Launtel.

          very painful to manage just to save a few $ in rare instances.

          This is OzBargain after all! :D But agree… flexibility aside, Belong would be cheaper.

          With Belong you can move up and down (once a month)

          From Belong CIS…

          Can I change my speed plan at a later date?
          You can change your speed plan at any time during the month.
          The costs of the speed plans are detailed in the tables above.
          Once you purchase a speed plan, you can change to another
          speed plan after the 1st of the next month, but only twice per
          calendar year.

        • higherdestiny on 18/09/2020 - 12:03
          +6

          With Launtel you can change speed within minutes.

          Real world example: had our connection on 25/5 for a few weeks because we were hardly using it. Brother in law came over for a new PC build and we wanted to download his steam catalogue, so I ramped speed up to 100Mbit within 20 minutes, downloaded all of teh Gamez, then dropped the speed back down again. Literally only paid 80c extra over the whole month for the ability to download at those speeds.

          On belong, you would be stuck on whatever speed you chose for that month.

          I prefer the flexibility of Launtel. Ramp it up to 100 when I need it, only pay for 25 or 50 the rest of the month.

          • DevlicK on 11/12/2020 - 12:14

            @higherdestiny: Doesn't Launtel charge you for the highest speed per day? So if, and when, you do ramp up the speed, wouldn't it make sense to only ramp it back down before the new day starts?

    • SBOB on 18/09/2020 - 11:06
      +2

      Isn't belong $55?

      for what? shaped 50/20 thats actually only 30 down?

      • dmbminaret on 18/09/2020 - 11:29

        The title of this post is:
        25/5 Mbps Unlimited nbn FTTP or FTTN from $1.79/Day ($59.70/Mth) - New Customers Only/First 180 Days @ Launtel

        actually only 30 down

        Isn't this comparable to 25/5 Mbps?

  • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 10:07
    -6

    25/5 Mbps Unlimited nbn FTTP

    Haha you call that NBN. That's not much faster than what ADSL2 was producing. I can get 1000mbps down on my FTTP connection.

    Tangerine for example will do 42mbps for $59.90 a month for the first 6 months. A much better deal.

    • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 10:18

      Well, no, they called it "nbn" and you are talking about best case ADSL2.

      • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 10:22

        It's still hardly "nbn" speeds. ADSL2 in Launtel's city of Launceston achieved 20mbps quite consistently. Especially when everyone started to be moved over to FTTP back in 2012.

        Still 25 being considered a normal "nbn" speed is crap but that's more NBN than Launtel.

        • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 10:35

          It is most definitely "nbn" speeds given it is one of the speeds that nbn™ offers. 'NBN' may have been a different story now but here we are.

          That is great that the city of Launceston achieved close to the theoretical maximums but that is not the case broadly.

          • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 10:39

            @bargainpersona: Entire state rather. Though as expected once more people were moved to FTTP, ADSL as a whole improved quite significantly. Far less congestion on the overloaded exchanges.

            • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 11:04

              @Clear: The primary problem with ADSL is distance, not congestion, as far as I know.

              Here is some recent data ADSL speeds, which show that the national average peak hour download speed for ADSL was 7.3Mbps (I understand the nuances of peak download speed but that is the data I found):
              https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/internet-landline-services…

              Unfortunately it is not broken down by state or incarnation of ADSL. Although if we are to factor in how well Tasmania is apparently doing, the rest of the country is fairing much worse given TAS must be bringing up the average.

              Interestingly if you compare the numbers from February to May you will see that the average speed has actually gone down for whatever reasons.

              • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 11:21

                @bargainpersona: Yes I'm well aware. Thanks for the extra well researched info 😉

                • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 11:27

                  @Clear: Where can I find the data you have on ADSL speeds in Tasmania?

                  And no worries, I didn't have to search hard for the ACCC stats.

                  • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 11:36

                    @bargainpersona: I once worked for a multinational ISP who had Telstra as a client 😉

                    • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 11:46

                      @Clear: Did Tasmania have some big push to put exchanges everywhere so that no one in the state is further than 1.5km away from one?

                      All I can find on Tasmanian speeds specifically is this:
                      https://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au/heatmap-state.php?State=TA…

                      Nothing official but there are quite a few spots that are greater than 8Mbps and less than 15Mbps.

                      • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 11:50

                        @bargainpersona: Quite the opposite. More suburbs and streets were being created but the number of exchanges wasn't changing so the existing kept getting overloaded past their designed capacity. In some areas there would be a single exchange in an 8km radius with only half being able to get ADSL2.

                        It was only when nbn was first introduced back in 2011/12 that more exchanges were built, the existing infrastructure was upgraded and so forth. The FTTP rollout took about 2-3 years and in that time a lot of suburbs started receiving faster ADSL2 speeds.

                        Tassie was caught right in the centre of the FTTP to FTTN change. Fortunately most of the state had received FTTP and the existing contracts were honoured.

                        • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 12:08

                          @Clear: How are they getting 20Mbps+ at greater than 1.5km from the exchange then?

                          Or are you saying that the completion of the new builds starting in 2011/12 you refetred to did result in <1.5km away exchanges for all?

                          Or is there some technicality where they didn't offer ADSL2 to people who couldn't get 20Mbps+?

                          • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 12:16
                            -1

                            @bargainpersona: During the transition period from ADSL to FTTP people were able to get the max speed of ADSL2+ due to the infrastructure being upgraded at the same time and more people coming off ADSL.

                            • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 12:26
                              +1

                              @Clear: Why would they upgrade ADSL infrastucture at EOL? And we are talking about installing new exchanges not just upgrading.

                              You can only get "max" ADSL2+ speed at less than about 0.5km from the exhange.

                              You keep talking about reduced congestion but I have no idea why.

                              • Clear on 18/09/2020 - 13:19

                                @bargainpersona: I could write an essay. Can you remember what happened when the government shifted from Labor to Liberal? FTTP ended so FTTN, VDSL and others which use the exchanges came into place - not everywhere received FTTP.

                                The exchanges were falling apart so they upgraded the existing and with all the new subdivisions popping up (Tassie has had a huge residential development surge in recent years) they built new ones. It's worth mentioning that a lot of exchanges are also the location of 4G towers which were being constructed/upgraded in the same timeframe. B28 ftw!

                                Now as for reduced congestion? It's really simple. NBN upgraded people from copper to fibre street by street, suburb by suburb and what happens when say 90% of the suburb are now on fibre and only 10% are left on copper with the exchange? Less congestion, more stability, faster speeds. An exchange that had 1000 people suddenly only has 100 (made up number but you get the point). They also didn't upgrade entire suburbs to FTTP due to the Libs winning. You could be on FTTP but the bloke across the road FTTN or even in some cases… wireless.

                                • bargainpersona on 18/09/2020 - 17:54

                                  @Clear: You could write an essay but it probably wouldn't include citations and wouldn't even address my actual question.

                                  You know what is simple - the fact that ADSL speeds drop off rapidly with distance from the exchange. No amount of upgraded copper or reduced congestion will change that (yes, I know about crosstalk). A connection quality is limited by line length - the lack of congestion doesn't make the line any shorter, just doesn't make it worse.

                                  Given the NBN rollout is "complete" why are we not seeing similar ADSL improvements across Australia? Tasmania isn't the only place with exchanges that were disrepair, residential development, 4G towers and MTM. Mine (14Mbps down) didn't get any better even though I waited 15 months after my nbn was RFS.

                                  In the absense of any supporting evidence provided for your claim and my inability to find any in my searches myself, I had a quick look at Whirlpool and found numerous cases of poor ADSL speeds in Tasmania. Anecdotes, I know, whingepool, I know…

                                  Conversely, I found nothing about how their ADSL speeds are absolutely towering over the rest of the nation. Surely someone find that noteworthy, i.e.Tasmanians/Politicians/Tasmanian Politicians.

                                  Just today on OzBargain we have someone complaining about how bad their ADSL is in Tasmania and there would be virtually nobody else on it now:
                                  https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/566690

                                  @FLICKIT in this thread reports bad ADSL and distant exchange also.

                                  Even if you convinced me (which you have not), it would still mean that despite a belated, herculean effort by the telcos and relying on the NBN being rolled out and most people moving off, the national average ADSL download speed as of May this year was just 7.3Mbps, under one third of 25Mbps (and it is likely even worse in the case of uploads). Yes, this lumps in ADSL2 with ADSL but that is a moot point really.

                      • FLICKIT on 18/09/2020 - 11:55
                        +1

                        @bargainpersona: Not that I'm aware of, I was 7.5km from my exchange and I had to put up with shocking ADSL speeds and reliability issues for a LOT of years…

                        On Fixed Wireless now thankfully, but that's kinda flakey at times..

    • OZB Al on 18/09/2020 - 12:37

      Clear if I was on FTTP and needed to download a few TB of data as quickly as possible with Launel I would:

      Log on to the web site
      Select 1000mbps
      Wait 20 minutes just to make sure it applied
      Download my TBs
      Change it back to 50/20 when complete
      Total added cost around $5 for the month

      With Tangarine if you need to download a few TB of data quickly as possible how much extra would it cost you?

      • Russ on 21/09/2020 - 02:02

        Select 1000mbps

        It's not guaranteed you can get 1000Mbps. The system used by FTTP is 2.4GPON, which means 2.4Gbps goes to your local splitter, which is typically shared by 16 connections, and possibly up to 32 connections. At most there can be two 1000Mbps users on your splitter, and maybe not even two if half of the remaining customers are on 50Mbps or higher.

    • Turd on 22/09/2020 - 00:18

      Tangerine resell a Vocus layer 3 service aimed at retail resellers.

  • RogueWolf on 18/09/2020 - 10:13
    +1

    re-signed with tpg other day they were offering nbn12 told them was rubbish speed so they gave me, 25/5, unl, no lock in, no set up fee, free modem, $59.99pm + $10 for calls, not the greatest deal but only needed a basic package with no lock in, might want to try tpg if 25/5 is what you're after

    • Nousernamehere on 18/09/2020 - 12:03
      +1

      So you got a speed that isn't advertised on their website and also got around a charge (18 month contract for $0 connection fee/no contract for a $99.95 connection fee) that is advertised on their website.

      Not really an apples to apples comparison as there's no guarantee anyone else could get that same offer.

      • RogueWolf on 18/09/2020 - 12:09

        just putting it out there, maybe someone might want to try, especially if you are already with tpg changing over to NBN, was barely even a negotiation offered it without hassle

        • Nousernamehere on 18/09/2020 - 12:18
          +1

          So you were an existing TPG ADSL customer connecting to the NBN for the first time at the same place?

          You probably should have mentioned that. Anyone looking to sign up with them won't be able to get the same offer coming from a different provider.

    • Oofy Doofy on 18/09/2020 - 12:48
      +1

      Flip Connect is $49.90 pm for 25/5

      • Russ on 18/09/2020 - 13:07
        +2

        More details about that 25/5 plan:
        - unlimited data
        - no setup fee
        - no contract

        But, the $49.90 price includes a $5 discount if you pay one month in advance. If you want a plan you can leave in one month (i.e. no pay-in-advance), the cost is $54.90/month.

        I've been using FlipConnect since April on their 12/1 plan, no problems. Didn't have NBN previously. Did have a hiccup when ordering, their system spits out irrelevant dates for NBN installation. Had to ring them to get the actual NBN installation date. The 12/1 plan is $44.90/month (when paying one month in advance).

        • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 16:09

          Flipconnect, also have various fees for disconnection like.. non refundable advance payment fee etc…

          • Russ on 18/09/2020 - 18:44

            @Turd:

            have various fees for disconnection

            There are no such fees. The advance payment is non-refundable, but if you give at least one month's notice, you can use it up.

            • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 19:12

              @Russ: In 2020 we have to give notice to NBN Providers… geez…

              It's like being on 18 or 24 month contracts. rofl so landline days.

              • Russ on 19/09/2020 - 22:42

                @Turd: Two months is like being on "18 or 24 month contracts"? Methinks you exaggerate. And you can have the "freedom" you desire for an extra $5/month.

                FlipConnect's "Pay In Advance" simply reflects the way NBN charge. NBN charge in whole-month blocks, so anyone who cancels their credit card won't be discovered until the following billing month has started, and NBN has charged FlipConnect for another month.

                Other NBN providers who don't have a "pay in advance" policy have higher fees and therefore higher profit, so they pay the "extra month" out of that profit.

                Also, given that people moving to a new NBN provider will usually move again if they are unsatisfied, the $5/month fee for avoiding pay-in-advance actually shows that less than one in ten customers are unsatisfied. And if you want to be ultra-cautious, you can probably start on the plan without pay-in-advance, and when you are sure you're happy with FlipConnect, I think you can then change to the pay-in-advance plan and save $5/month.

                • Turd on 20/09/2020 - 00:29

                  @Russ: Who does flip use for backbone and transport? Own POIs?

                  • Russ on 20/09/2020 - 08:58

                    @Turd: I don't know, but it looks like they are a very small company. When I was comparing providers, they had a promotional offer of $40/month available "for the first 1000 customers", which had been running for a year or so. I just missed out on that offer, suggesting they are signing up fewer than 3 customers per day.

                    I can't remember how I discovered FlipConnect. I don't think they advertise. I think I saw an announcement on Whirlpool, they called themselves FlipTV originally.

                • Nousernamehere on 20/09/2020 - 13:45

                  @Russ:

                  NBN charge in whole-month blocks

                  You’d better tell Launtel that then as they must be losing a bucketload of cash allowing people to sign up for only a single day and also allowing others to change their plan speed daily..

                  • Russ on 21/09/2020 - 01:40

                    @Nousernamehere:

                    they must be losing a bucketload of cash

                    I doubt that. Considering Launtel's lowest-cost plan is $1.99/day, that's $726 per year. Compared to Flipconnect's 25/5 plan for $599/year, Launtel are making an extra $127 per year, or enough that every customer can "turn off" their internet for more than two months per year, before their profitability drops below FlipConnect.

                    Sure there will be some customers who use the "turn off" feature a lot, and some who will connect for shorter than a month, but they must be in the minority, and are easily balanced out by customers who rarely or never do this. Businesses only have to make a profit on average, they don't have to make a profit from every customer. Launtel have undoubtedly "done the numbers", and have priced their plans accordingly, expecting that they will make a loss on some customers.

                    • Turd on 21/09/2020 - 12:25

                      @Russ: Launtel also have invested heavily in their own POI and having infrastructure at the POIs
                      Currently just over ~50% of POI's are own by them others are just vocus for submission/activation.

                      Launtel have been around much longer too based in Tassie back in the day setting up Wifi access routers for business to share internet.

                      Big thread on FlipTV - https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2631284
                      They are just a reseller with poor support it seems.

                      • Russ on 21/09/2020 - 13:36

                        @Turd:

                        Currently just over ~50% of POI's are own by them others are just vocus for submission/activation.

                        Sounds like Launtel is being funded by someone with deep pockets, planning on long-term profitability.

                        FlipTV … just a reseller with poor support it seems.

                        I've read through that thread. Seems they were having some teething problems when they started up in 2017, but pretty much everything after that is people blaming Flip for couriers losing modems, NBN's varied attempts to discourage lower speeds by jacking up prices, and unrealistic people complaining that $40/month is too expensive for NBN. Almost everything dated 2020 is positive, and that's pretty rare for "Whingepool".

                    • Nousernamehere on 21/09/2020 - 14:31

                      @Russ:

                      I doubt that

                      It was a joke to highlight you’re clearly incorrect with how you think NBN charge RSP’s.

                      Launtel are making an extra $127 per year, or enough that every customer can "turn off" their internet for more than two months per year, before their profitability drops below FlipConnect.

                      Different RSP’s have different overall costs, who would have thought? Would explain why ABB charge on the higher side for NBN but haven’t made a profit in years.
                      Just because Launtel have revenue of an ‘extra’ $127 a year, their costs could be $200 a year higher than Flip, so who is more profitable?

                      So explain it then what NBN charge Launtel for this fictional customer (based on the FTTP pricing table):

                      Day 1-10 they’re on the 50/20 plan: $2.57 a day ($25.70)
                      Day 11-13 they’re on the 1000/400 plan: $7.55 a day ($22.65)
                      Day 14-20 they’re on the 100/40 plan: $3.29 a day ($23.03)
                      Day 21-25 they’re on the 25/5 plan: $2.28 a day ($11.40)
                      Day 26-30 they’re disconnected as they’ve gone away.

                      So in total Launtel have charged $82.78 (including GST) for the month. The AVC cost for the 1000/400 plan alone is $150/month (excluding GST) and doesn’t come with any bundled CVC and can’t use the ‘bundled’ CVC that’s included in the other plans (AFAIK).

                      So explain how the AVC pricing works in this scenario if you believe NBN charge it only in a monthly block (yet charge CVC on a daily basis for overage) and how Launtel can still keep their lights on?

                      Does NBN charge it as the highest AVC the customer has been on for the month, so if someone uses the 1000/400 plan for a single day then goes down to the base 25/5 plan for the other 29 days Launtel only charges $73.67 for 30 days yet are charged $150 (ex. GST) for that one day for a single customer without any other costs included.

                      They must be working with some massive margins on all their other customers to make up for it considering their biggest selling points are daily plan changes/disconnections when not needed.

                      • Turd on 21/09/2020 - 15:32

                        @Nousernamehere: Those prices from the PDF for NBNCo are out dated. So yeah Just saying…

                        • Nousernamehere on 21/09/2020 - 15:44

                          @Turd: Which one? The 1000/400 pricing I quoted was from 2018, but found a media statement just now which says:

                          The new up to 1000/50 bundle discount is $100 less, or 55 per cent cheaper than the previous $180 effective charge for the 1000/400 bundle discount. Additionally, an almost doubling of the CVC inclusion to 5.75Mbps

                          https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/…

                          So the price of the 1000/400 AVC is $180 with ~3Mbps CVC, so yeah I was slightly out but the thinking that NBN only charge AVC as a whole month still doesn't add up. NBN really don't make it easy to find up to date information on their site it seems.

                      • Russ on 22/09/2020 - 01:44

                        @Nousernamehere: NBN isn't very forthcoming with information, but all of the websites that explain AVC and CVC show AVC as a monthly charge, for example https://infinititelecommunications.com.au/nbn-business-prici…

                        can’t use the ‘bundled’ CVC that’s included in the other plans (AFAIK)

                        That assumption is wrong. CVC is charged on the aggregate of users, I think it is all users on each POI.

                        I don't know how Launtel are doing it, but they obviously are. Perhaps for every 100 users on a POI, they have a "spare" 1000/400 plan not allocated to anyone, that they switch to customers who want the higher speed for a short duration. Although that plan costs them maybe $300 per month (that's how much Launtel charge for it), it works out to $3 for each of the 100 customers. It would most likely cost them less, they wouldn't have to allocate CVC when that plan isn't being used by anyone.

                        For your fictional customer, they could indeed make a loss. But your fictional customer is far from being an average customer. I just had a read through one of the Launtel threads on WP, and only one of the commenters said they had ever changed speed, and they only changed once: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2679838

                        In that thread, the Launtel CEO says he's never had to actually contact any of their customers about excessive data use, and that they've changed the rule for excessive data use. If everyone behaved as per your fictional user, I reckon they would create a rule about changing speeds too often, or make the highest speed tiers unavailable except on special request.

                        Also, your fictional user could only have that usage pattern if they are on FTTP, because 1000/400 is only available to FTTP (or so it appears, I just entered an address where the technology is HFC and 250Mbps was the top speed offered). So roughly 80% of premises can't get 1000Mbps.

                        • Nousernamehere on 24/09/2020 - 14:25

                          @Russ: Really can’t be bothered trying to continue this, you believe what you want to. Your entire argument basically centres around the fact AVC is advertised as a monthly amount therefore it must be charged monthly to RSP.

                          CVC is advertised as $/Mb, yet go look at AussieBB’s CVC charts and tell me the amount they move up and down by (hint: it isn’t in single or double digit amounts). ABB also give pro-rata refunds when you disconnect or churn, guess they just enjoy losing money on customers who have left them too.

                          Even Launtel themselves work it out on a daily price for costs

                          We don’t have many 250/100 services – around 15 – so that’s $240/month per connection – around $8/day. This is just the CVC! Add in the AVC charge and it’s about $11/day just for the NBN component. So yes we are making a big loss on 250/100 services!

                          No idea what thread you’re reading, the last 2/3 pages have a number of people mentioning speed changes and pausing the service (as well as how often you can, Damian even says something about it as well).

                          I’ll be moving to Launtel early next year when I move from my house but keeping it empty as I’ll be back for 3/4 days every month or so, so based on your assumptions about pricing I’ll be expecting to get an email from Launtel pretty quickly when I’m literally losing them money every month I’m connected for only those few days :-)

  • ShortyX on 18/09/2020 - 10:18

    Remember that removing CGNAT will cost 15c/day or you can pay a refundable deposit for a static IP - see here

    • Bob81 on 18/09/2020 - 13:45
      +1

      Or $100 refundable once-off fee.

  • BlueMM on 18/09/2020 - 10:54

    Has any one worked out the regions? Why is one area more expensive than the other (& do they provide the same service)?

    • theg00s3 on 18/09/2020 - 14:22

      It's because in some areas they're directly connected to the nbn's infrastructure, and in other places they have to use a 3rd party company called Vocus

      • Ruprect on 18/09/2020 - 16:24

        But I think they are other variations in price as well. There seems to be two different prices for each.

      • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 17:23
        +1

        ~50% of Launtel infrastructure is Own owned POI.
        The rest will eventually be under Vocus.
        They only use Vocus for the provisioning part.

        List of Own POIs - https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/3rpq6jx3?p=11#r212

  • SupeNintendoChalmers on 18/09/2020 - 11:13
    +2

    cries in Telstra Velocity

  • wfdTamar on 18/09/2020 - 11:25
    +2

    I'm actually in their neck of the woods (near Launceston) and much as I'd like to use them, the price for me is $3.50 - 4 per day! ($105-120 pm) I don't get why locals have to pay more than other people.

    • Wally on 30/09/2020 - 01:29

      Does that price come down with the EARLYADOPTER code?

      Seems strange, as they appear to have their own 1000mbps POI -> 7LAU Launceston, TAS

      • wfdTamar on 30/09/2020 - 08:07
        +1

        Not for me as I've used them before to trial them. That's fair enough, but I don't understand why the 'normal' price I pay is so high.

        • Turd on 30/09/2020 - 09:44
          +1

          Tassies pay more unfortunately.

  • sunyuanxin on 18/09/2020 - 11:37

    Since they calculate the bill daily ， if I go on vacation for two weeks, can I suspend it? only pay for the days I use?

    • FLICKIT on 18/09/2020 - 11:40
      +2

      Yep… you can pause/suspend it at your leisure, even if you're just going away for a couple of days…

  • higherdestiny on 18/09/2020 - 11:59
    +5

    These plans are great for FIFO workers (pause for two weeks while you're away) and also for AirBNB hosts (only pay for internet while the home/apartment is leased).

  • Oofy Doofy on 18/09/2020 - 12:10
    +1

    Great company, been using for the last 6 months. Highly recommended.

    Though I will probably give Future Broadband a shot soon.

  • RubenM on 18/09/2020 - 12:58

    5GB/day<<150GB/month!

    Actually 5GB/day is probably worse than 75GB/month.

    Glad I'm on $55/month for 50Mpbs!

    • SBOB on 18/09/2020 - 13:19
      +1

      Glad I'm on $55/month for 50Mpbs!

      with……?

      • RubenM on 19/09/2020 - 07:14

        No longer available, unfortunately.

        • Turd on 19/09/2020 - 11:20

          Nice RSP name.

  • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 14:15
    +1

    If you have forgotten to enter a user referral code when you have signed up, you can do so after you are signed up by going to the portal and my account and enter the new referal code there.

    • Wally on 30/09/2020 - 01:36

      That is different to the EARLYADOPTER code is it … and gets you $25 credit in your account?

      So you can set up an account and Trial for 7 days THEN add the code and referral when you decide to continue and add cash to the account??

  • sunyuanxin on 18/09/2020 - 15:53

    the price for me is still $1.99 not $1.79 ,I'm on FTTN

    • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 16:06

      $1.99 is the NEW low discounted price now.

      $1.79 was the old one (Not offered now).

      • sunyuanxin on 18/09/2020 - 16:45

        but the title is $1.79/Day ？

        • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 17:20

          OP's title is a copy and paste of an old post.

          Zero thinking. Chasing the referral boost

          • higherdestiny on 18/09/2020 - 21:18

            @Turd: Moderator selected title and updated content. And yes, reposting because Launtel are offering the early adopter discount again after a small hiatus.

            • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 21:26

              @higherdestiny: They've been offering this for like over 1-2 months.

              Yes ive been checking and yes im a user already.

  • Turd on 18/09/2020 - 17:24
    +1

    OP You forgot to mention that users get a free 7 day trial!

    The idea behind this is to give them a go. Free of charge. If you like the service speed stay on and recharge and continue to use the service. Like buying a cup of coffee, upgrade if you want extra or not.

  • ShipShapeRC on 18/09/2020 - 17:53

    Do they do phone number as well? You know unlimited calls for $10 kind of thing? I could not see it on their site.

  • PissLUR on 18/10/2020 - 10:35

    is there a minimum charge per month? I am thinking of activating and leaving it inactive for months.. is this possible?

    • higherdestiny on 19/10/2020 - 21:20

      I'm not aware of any such restrictions.

    • Turd on 21/10/2020 - 02:11

      If you keep the connection not active for 2 months it reverts to the new pricing.

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