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Gigabyte Brix GB-Bri5h-10210E Barebone Kit - Intel i5 10th Gen Processor - $379 + Delivery / Pickup @ Mwave

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Just bought one as my new Plex Server, hopefully it "serves" me well :-) there are also a lot of other options including combo's with SSD's and ram. Some examples:

Gigabyte Brix i5 10th Gen + 8GB RAM $415 - https://www.mwave.com.au/product/diy-bundle-deal-gigabyte-br…

Gigabyte Brix i5 10th Gen + 16GB RAM + 480GB SSD $519 - https://www.mwave.com.au/product/diy-bundle-deal-gigabyte-br…

Gigabyte Brix i5 10th Gen + 16GB RAM $455 - https://www.mwave.com.au/product/diy-bundle-deal-gigabyte-br…

Gigabyte Brix GB-BRi7H-10510 Barebone Kit - Intel i7-10510U Processor $629 - https://www.mwave.com.au/product/gigabyte-brix-gbbri7h10510-…

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  • +1

    Great price, very tempting. I'm also wanting to get one to run as Plex server, Sonarr, Radarr & Unifi Controller.

    How would the CPU go with Plex? i'm assuming it will play multiple streams and transcode without issue? mostly 1080p

    • +1

      Haven't tried myself (just ordered this morning) but I am guessing your assumption would be correct. From what I have read the older processors were capable of 2-3 streams/transcodes at 1080p so this will be the same https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/aykxi8/intel_nuc_as_p…

    • +3

      Depends…if you have plex pass you're golden because you can use hardware transcoding from the iGPU to do the heavy lifting (transcoding) especially at 1080p

    • +3

      QuickSync is the savior here. Without it you would have issues with multiple streams.

    • +1

      I havea N40L running my plex server. It's a 1.5ghz turn amd. Haven't done any transcoding but it can play everything I have downloaded through plex on Xbone

    • PLEX uses passmark as a means of gauging how effective a CPU is for server work: https://support.plex.tv/articles/201774043-what-kind-of-cpu-…

      The Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz comes in at 6,524.

      • Is this a good number compared to Nvidia Shield?

      • If you're using hardware transcoding (Plex Pass required), then your CPU requirements are lower and then become limited based on how many audio transcoding sessions your CPU can handle.

  • The 8gb kit was looking good until it I saw it said single stick only so no dual channel operation.

    • +1

      Just get 16gb like i did ;-)

      • 16gb is a single stick as well 🤣

        • +8

          haha oh damn! missed that part! oh well at least i can upgrade to 32gb now for no reason :-D

          • @drinkin-beer: It say's in the specifications down the bottom that is has 2 x SO-DIMM DDR4 slots.

            • +1

              @IG88: Yes it has 2 sodimm slots but the ram it comes with 1 stick of ram, either 8gb or 16gb. Silly me assumed it was 2 sticks of 8gb, pays to read fully!

              • +2

                @drinkin-beer: Yeah I knew what you meant the moment I posted the comment.

              • @drinkin-beer: Since you just ordered this morning give mwave a call and get your order changed to the 8gb package + an extra 8gb stick

        • +7

          People keep complaining about this, but I don't get it - this is a computer that is serving your media and doing other low-grade tasks.

          What exactly are you losing out on without dual channel RAM? I mean, in the real world. It's not a high performance gaming machine, so what's the problem?

          • +1

            @Droz: You're losing out on the chance on not being able to upgrade :D

    • +1

      I'd prefer that. Another $45 or so gets you another to match it next week…

  • +2

    Hope will have ryzen 4000 mini computer cheap.

  • Great price - but that COM port though :(((

    • +1

      suuuper ugly lol

    • +6

      The com port is a pretty good feature. Lots of legacy commercial equipment and peripherals still rely on com. I have no use for it, but I can see where a lot of businesses might.

      • +1

        yeah but like… $112-$180 for an ugly wart rs232 on the lid?

        why not just buy an usb converter?

        if you're business you either…

        a. dont care about the cost

        b. dont care about the looks

        • +17

          Usb converters are not reliable and not supported by all hardware devices, having native rs232 is the best.

          • @Agret: I do get you. I myself keep a few older laptops with a real rs232 and I know about that whole FDDI fake com chip thing.

            For my uses, the com port isnt a permanent fixture… ie you set up the device and once it works, disconnect.

            But I have worked where you need a permanant PC hooked up and then spending $600 on a Brix to work a $10,000 machine isnt a big deal.

            NOr how ugly it looks lol.

          • @Agret: So what do people use their com ports for these days?

            I still maintain an old PC for its parallel port but I've never missed the serials.

            • +2

              @gadget: obvious would be cisco hp routers etc.

              large pieces of industrial equipment from cnc to lab equipment… many are moving to usb or ethernet but many older pieces are still serial

              • @tonyjzx: CISCO / HP router is an example where a USB com serial cable is totally fine since you are just using it as a temp solution to program it, after you have setup SSH on it and loaded your access certificate you can just access it with KiTTY

                @gadget The COM ports are usually used for industrial devices like a CNC router, laser cutter, vinyl sign cutting machine. These machines are very expensive so not easily replaceable. Setting up something like a Brix is great since you can tuck it out of the way attached to the device itself and seutp remote desktop so you can access it from a laptop on your workbench and no longer have to have some clunky old desktop hanging out near it.

            • @gadget: In this particular context, it means you can issue commands to the NUC via serial console. This is handy as it means you don't need to hook up a monitor.

            • @gadget: I use serial COM port to interface with a projector.

    • +2

      50 cents for a black rs232 port cover. You might even have a vga port cover from an old video card or motherboard lying around. Problem solved.

  • Hmmm temping to get my plex, sonarr and radarr setup off my gaming PC seems kinda a waste if electricity to have it running 24/7 useing so much electricity (9900k/RTX 3090).

    • My gaming rig has similar specs (5800x/3090) and I cant bring myself to have my plex server and 'arrs on it, hence opting for this deal.

      • Ive had it on my main PC for years now, but have recently moved my HDDs out of my PC case (planning a custom loop plus too many HDDs now to fit plug into MB) and been thinking about a nuc like this.

        Think i might do it as well.
        Edit: Bought the $415 one with Ram, will throw an old Samsung SSD in it.

        • You weren't hard to convince! I ended up going with 16gb ram but same here going to slap an old SSD in there. With your drives, how are you handling them now that they are outside of your PC case?

          • +2

            @drinkin-beer: https://cplonline.com.au/orico-ns800u3-bk-8-bay-usb-3-0-hard…

            I use this with the fans replaced inside with Notuas which are a little quieter and higher quality.
            Currently got 3 x 12TB's 1x 10TB and a older 5TB in it.

            • +1

              @Axelstrife: Ah yes, I see. I also use a similar one to this but it is only 4 bays. Also did the same noctua mod to mine. What OS do you plan to run on the nuc and how to you plan to pool the drives? I was thinking Ubuntu desktop and openmediavault.

            • +2

              @Axelstrife: Interesting, was looking at a 5 bay nas to do that job

  • -7

    Correction: combos with SSDs

    Why is there such a horrible lack of basic knowledge of grammar in this country when it comes to distinguishing between the plural and the possessive?

    • +1

      you must be new here

      the aust. education system has been like this for decades

      • Sad but true

      • I keep my pens in my hallway draw.

        I made a bet with my mate that I would bet him in tomorrow's race.

    • Psss don't tell anyone but you didn't finish your first sentence with a full stop.

  • +1

    Unlike the Asus mini, it's got an RS232 port.

    I guess if anyone's still addicted to the old honeywell mice or hasn't updated the POS scanner for a little while…

    Nice price :-)

    • Actually integrated (connects to POS software in some way) eftpos is more likely than scanners :) scanners are all usb now .. hehe

  • +3

    what a price - i grabbed an asus vivomini with a 7th gen i5 for around this price september last year from mwave so this is a ripper of a deal.

  • -1

    Anyone interested to get in on a group buy for an Odroid HC1?

  • +1

    https://www.mwave.com.au/product/intel-boxnuc8i3beh-nuc-bare…

    With Plex pass, you'd be better off with something like this. The Iris 655 GPU will be far better. You can easily handle 10-12 transcodes on it. 8th Gen gpus on these were more powerful, Intel for some reason took a step back on them with 10th gen.

    • 8th gen i3 better than 10th gen i5?

      • +2

        CPU power is irrelevant for transcodes. Plex pass allows for Hardware transcoding, and in this case the Iris 655 is superior to the UHD 620 in the 10th gen. GPUs are the same across i3/i5/i7, in all NUCs.

          • +4

            @studentl0an: The 10th gen has a UHD Graphics 620. Not an Iris 655.

            Feel free to comb through the Plex reddit. It has been extensively tested. 8th gen with quicksync is far superior to 10th gen as a Plex driver.

            • +3

              @ONEMariachi: there's always the 8th gen i5 which i reckon is real value for money in this space

              https://www.mwave.com.au/product/diy-bundle-deal-intel-nuc-i…

              there's a lot of mileage there for the extra 70 bucks you'd spend, see

              https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i5-10210U-vs-Inte…

              edit: actually at ~33% off that's arguably a deal worthy of its own thread (but these boxes/kits are on special so frequently it hardly seems worth it)

              • +2

                @c-tho: Fantastic find. That's definitely a pretty sweet deal with those inclusions.

              • @c-tho: And no slimline GPU required for something like this? I don't do any gaming, purely Plex, nzbd server with some browsing (also connected by HDMI to TV).

                Not even too interested in multiple streams but do want to have a solid experience when playing in the household including 4K content.

                • +2

                  @timbo83: yeah the vibe on reddit seems to be that these are perfect for this but like @ONEMariachi said if you just want a media server you can go cheaper than the i5 8th gen, see

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/aykxi8/intel_nuc_as_p…

                  plenty of people on there happy with the 7th gen i3/5 or the 8th gen i3.

                • +1

                  @timbo83: It has an integrated GPU, called the Iris Plus 655. Will handle direct streams on a local network of 4k content no problem at all.

                  • @ONEMariachi: Cheers.

                  • @ONEMariachi: great info on the new v old nuc, i have a quick querie

                    if no plex pass is used, gen 8 or 10?

                    • @MaxSmaX: If no plex pass, then Gen 10, as it's a better CPU. But worth investing in the plex pass and going gen 8. Way better use of your money.

              • @c-tho: thanks, just picked up the i5 version with RAM but no SSD, and added a M.2 SSD instead. Has anyone tried using virtualisation to pass through the iGPU?

          • @studentl0an: I love how confidently this is said for something that's just factually untrue. In the links provided, it quite literally says Iris 655 for the i3 8th gen, and UHD graphics for the i5 10th gen. Did you even read your own links? lmao

      • if the transcode is not the sole purpose than no matter what gen, Mghz & Iris, in the link is 2C cpu vs 4c cpu here :)

        • +2

          Oh for sure, if your purpose is beyond a simple Plex server. Then the i5 is better(depending entirely on your purpose). However if you are only using it for the sole intent of driving a plex server and sharing it with several people. the i3 is a superior choice.

  • hey guys, would it be okay for playing GTA 5 and doing video editing?
    I've been using mac the whole life and need a second computer

    • I want to know this as well

    • YouTube "UHD 620 gtav" you will get a better idea if that's playable to you and not to someone else

    • +4

      I would definitely stay away from this for gaming and video editing. Better off with an entry level gaming rig, it will serve you better.

      • Are there any entry level gaming units that come in these mini PC sizes? Still cheap, not powerful, but quite able to handle simple gaming while having a small footprint and near-silent box? Is anyone making a range of devices like that?

        • Yeah, they're called laptops but they are a bit louder as cooling a graphics card is noisy.

          • @studentl0an: Yes I essentially want an entry level gaming laptop, but in mini PC form, so it is cheaper because it doesn't have a screen or keyboard, and because the case doesn't need to be as flat.

            • @Biggles266: Laptops are cheaper than mini PCs because they make and sell a lot more of them.

              Mini PCs with proprietary GPUs which can't be upgraded never really sold well, which is why no one apart from a few niche companies make them and they are expensive for what they are compared to a laptop.

              Small Form Factor (SFF) custom made gaming PCs that use off the shelf parts are very popular and is most likely what you are after. They are not this small though and they are generally as loud as a gaming laptop, although with a lower pitch so not as grating to the ear.

              You might be after a mini PC and then an eGPU breakout box. That also would work but again expensive.

              • @studentl0an: Thanks, that's useful info. I'll look up SFF cases to get an idea of how small they are. Are there any Aust companies offering SFF budget gaming, or custom builds through the internet, that you would particularly recommend?

  • How would one of these compare to an nvidia Shield? Just want a streaming box for 4K HDR

    • are you talking about just as a player or as a plex server?

      • Just a player. I have a bunch of 4K blu rays, and converting those to digital would be good but I don’t know (nor have I looked into) how. Would be good to have server power up the sleeve for the future.

        Looking at the specs I don’t think this supports HDR etc

        • +2

          My understanding is that is the operating system that supports HDR because it falls within the spec of HDMI 2.0 so the hardware is there, it just needs supporting OS. That being said, I have a shield and it is my current Plex server and I am upgrading to this. I will still be using my shield as a player. The shield is the best media player on the market and I was blown away with how good mine was when I got it.

          If you plan to keep lots files electronically this would be more suitable. But be aware it is a big rabbit hole to go down with large expense if you plan to host your own media server.

          If you just want a player go with the shield.

          • @drinkin-beer: Thanks! Will stick with the Shield :-) Aside from no native AirPlay music support it’s basically perfect for me.

            I have one already but Kogan are doing them for $310 delivered and I just ordered a second one for the bedroom.

            Using voice control rather than typing out searches is also pretty awesome!

  • Does anyone know if the USB c port can be used as a single cable to plug this into a monitor and charge?

    • quite sure the USB-C port is not capable of display.

  • +1

    Had one early this year. It's a good kit but I found a common issue with this mini boxes is the fan noise. Due to the small form, the fan has to spin very fast to dissipate heat, just like the laptops. making them not ideal for home theater set up. but for other application it might work. I ended up selling it and DIY a mini-itx box instead.

    • +2

      Happy to be corrected, but as far as I could tell this NUC is fanless? I deduced this after I already bought a fan to replace the stock one 😅

      • I had the i7 model its got a fan inside.

      • The i5 is not fanless and can be a noisy, revyy little fester if you run it with out of the box settings with Win 10. I undervolted mine and run it in power saver mode with passive cooling policy and it is now acceptable noise-wise.

  • Those of you looking to use it a Plex machine - isn't the storage capacity an issue?

    • Like myself, most will have their media attached via drive enclosures or elsewhere on their network.

      • So connected via USB? Or on a standalone NAS? Wouldn't it make sense to run Plex on the NAS? Sorry but bit confused. My 20 year old PC SSD failed recently and I used it as a desktop for browsing etc and a Plex server with 3 hard drives. Trying to replace it now but I feel like I have to buy a NAS + a NUC…

        • Likewise, have a HP n410 which is still limping along but is getting to be a bit hit and miss with streaming content via local wifi, particularly for 4k content.

          Was thinking perhaps I get one of these then repurpose the existing HP microserver as just a NAS but feel like that could be just pushing the bottleneck around…

        • +1

          Yes I will be using a 4 bay non raid enclosure with software raid. It's connected by USB 3.0 which is not considered to be the best option but honestly good enough for me. The reason it's not considered to be the best option is USB is considered to be a bit unstable.

          The best option is to get a good Nas with a good CPU that will handle all of the transcoding for you. It is also an expensive option.

          For people like me who don't want to commit to a full Nas this is an option. So with this connected to my drive enclosure it essentially makes it a NAS but also a bit more versatile because it doesn't always have to be a this way I can detach it and use it in another way if I wish.

        • +1

          Wouldn't it make sense to run Plex on the NAS? Sorry but bit confused.

          Yes and no. Plex doesn't run that well on most utility NAS boxes because of a lack of H264/H265 encoders. If you just want to stream, that's fine, but for transcoding, it'll be a royal pain.

          That being said, I tend to find that there's a huge obsession with transcoding in the Plex community that I don't seem to get. I've always just kept all my media at 1080p or 720p, depending on source and streamed with original quality and it's never been an issue for me. You can always pre-render alternative copies at different bitrates/resolutions as well.

          If you run something like FreeNAS, then yes, you can run Plex in a jail, but I don't think you'd be able to do GPU passthrough to take advantage of hardware encoding, which again, is a no-go if you want to do transcoding.

          I personally wouldn't get a NUC to just run Plex. I'd also double it up as a pretty capable VM host, HTPC, torrenting box…etc.

        • pretty sure no SSD existed 20 years ago, nor SATA interface to connect contemporary harddisc :)

    • Create a website in Germany for unlimited Google drive storage. Save all your movies there, use said website to set up search and downloader.

      Don't have specifics but I know someone who added me to his server. Said it costs him $10 a month to run, has all the movies under the sun. I'm sure you can find specific guide on reddit to set it up.

  • Are there any mini PC's like this, of any brand, that have a basic graphics card in them that can manage simple gaming (Fortnite etc.)?

  • +1

    Damnit, I just bought a hp elitedesk 800 G3 SFF with i5 7th Gen for $500 (16GB, 480GB SSD)… Whilst this deal doesn't support multiple 3.5" hdds, it's pretty decent spec for a Plex server (this will support 4k HEVC transcoding no problem!) or hypervisor with all home duties covered… Maybe run external Nas or something for storage and you're more than covered.

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