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[Back Order] Ubiquiti UniFi U6-LITE Wi-Fi 6 Access Point $161.10 + Delivery (Free over $200) @ Wireless1

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UBQ2021

ETA 10th of February. ETA of May 31.

Cheaper than my last post, which turned out to not be in stock until mid-Feb either. So if you’re going to wait a little you may as well do it for less.

EDIT: Now in stock (as of Feb 4th)

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    • +9 votes

      You are not going to get 6E and 160MHz for under $200. 6E isn't even approved by ACMA yet.

      • +4 votes

        & no Wi-Fi 6E clients.

        • +4 votes

          What are the negs for?

          Wi-Fi 6E clients are not out yet.

          • +3 votes

            @Twix: Flogs gonna flog

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        Well you kinda can https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_demos_its_wifi_6e_ax6000_router_by_pitting_the_xiaomi_mi_11_against_the_iphone_12_pro_max-news-46996.php

        Of course its an import, so at your own risk of course.

        Looks like it's still a 5ghz only router with some advanced aggregation and higher QAM.

    • +11 votes

      Your name is misleading.

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    Will this work with Airport Extreme as the NBN router and Linksys POE+ switch https://www.pclan.com.au/linksys-lgs108p-8port-unmanaged-swi...?

    Or I will need a Ubiquity gateway for this to work? If yes, what gateway is ok to use that can do FTTP NBN?

    • +1 vote

      You can use that AirPort and Linksys combo. Don’t need the Ubiquiti gateway.

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        Thanks!

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      EdgerouterX is probably what I need so my setup will be a lot simpler

      NBN box -> EdgerouterX -> UnifiU6

      • +1 vote

        ERX has rather cumbersome UI, and so you have set it and the UAP up separately.

        For simplicity - USG instead?

        USG can be adopted by Unifi Controller, so USG/UAP Lite 6 are both show as devices on the same screen.

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          So USG can do POE on LAN 1 and LAN 2?

          • +2 votes

            @xorprime: The USG has no PoE

          • +1 vote

            @xorprime: You'd need a PoE injector or PoE switch for the Unifi 6 Lite.

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    Anyway know how this compares to the NANO-HD?
    Am thinking probably to wait for the the equivalent product in this generation

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      It out performs the nano-hd on speed(YouTube video), but can't comment on the range in comparison.

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      Wait for the Unifi U6 LR.

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        Don’t get the LR if you don’t need it for super long ranges. Speed will be slower.

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          Let's wait for the Unifi U6 LR benchmarks. For now there is no Wi-Fi 6 Nano HD.

          • +1 vote

            @Twix: Makes sense! For my needs I have two POE points in my ceiling on each floor and the house ain’t big so these lite’s are perfect for my setup.

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          Unifi wifi 6 long-range is actually faster. It's a true replacement for nano HD.

          https://mightygadget.co.uk/ubiquiti-unifi-6-lite-via-unifi-6...

    • +1 vote

      Based on the following, it compares favourably. The person testing didn’t have the higher end 6 LR model which replaces the Pro/Nano to benchmark against.

      https://youtu.be/f5WUifimRcE

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        Is the Unifi 6 LR confirmed to be the Unifi Pro & Nano HD replacement or is this guesswork from guys on the Ubiquiti forums?

        • +1 vote

          There’s some rumours there may also be a Pro, but it’s being labelled that now based on some key specs around MIMO etc aligning fairly closely between the LR and those other models and the price tag matching the Nano HD exactly. It’s also weather rated, where the current Pro was also designed to support outdoor use.

          Given no other comparable model has entered their early access program, the LR is also the only model that’s available now other than the Lite that looks like a sensible swap out, with the 6 Lite obviously being a replacement for the current Lite.

          Something else may come along, but it’ll probably be some time until we can get it here if it does so for now it’s easily the best fit and upgrade path.

      • +1 vote

        Thanks all…
        Seeing as how the iPhone 12 Pro is my only device supporting it, at this current stage I’m probably best served with my 2 existing Nano HD.

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    Have stopped updating the firmware on my Ubiquiti devices for a bit. There's been a couple of real irritating bugs in the last couple (DHCP issues, APs that crash after a couple of days and get really hot).

    Guess I should check the Ubiquiti reddit to see if it's safe yet.

    • +1 vote

      Edit: Yep, looks like the AC firmware that's buggy as hell is still the current. Acknowledged issue from UBNT but they won't pull > 4.3.20. I feel this is the death knell for Ubiquiti for me.

      They're fixing the more modern devices, but not AC-Lite / AC-LR / AC-Pro which are not end of support.

      Very disappointing.

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        It’s not like those devices are that old though….

        It’s a real shame, however I’m inclined to stick with them since the ecosystem and support in general for extensibility is among the best.

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        I'm using AC-LR with the firmware set to auto update and I've had zero issues.
        Have you got a link to these problems ?

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          https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/kaoco8/uap_firmwa...

          https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/klqu58/432411355_...

          A couple there. I've found 4.3.20 stable for me (apart from dropping to 100mbit uplink, but I'm guessing that's more my fixed cabling than the APs / switches)

          4.3.24 seems to be the most recent firmware available for my devices.

          Edit: there's now a link suggesting there's a 4.3.26 release candidate. Not super enthused about installing beta firmware, particularly when they've not fixed the issues in a couple of months. I get that it's likely they're just focused on the new Wi-Fi 6 hardware but seems they're not that interested in supporting older (still current) devices right now.

          Edit2: Nope, based on the first comment here

          https://community.ui.com/releases/UAP-Firmware-4-3-26-11358/...

          It's still eating CPU (which is the crash and overheat issue I was getting)

          Yeah I won't be upgrading and will need to look at something else when this stuff finally gives up. Such a shame, I really liked the ecosystem

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            @unique452: Thanks for that - just a case of waiting for new firmware to fix that particular issue or downgrade back to .20
            This has happened before (and last time the issue did affect me) and it will happen again 👍 Luckily they don't usually take long to release a fix…

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    Has a release date been set for the U6-LR in Aus?

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      It's on pre-order in the US. I guess a few months before it shows up here.

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    Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what is the different between this, a wifi extender, and mesh networks?

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      This is just a wireless access point (AP).

      Wi-Fi extenders are an AP that add additional range, usually by connecting to another AP that already exists. You can use some Ubiquiti devices as Wi-Fi extenders.

      Mesh networks are just a collection of APs usually with a central controller. You can create a mesh network with the Ubiquiti devices.

      There's a lot of confusion about these sorts of devices because some are what it actually is, some is how you use it. Google's mesh product for instance is actually some APs, a router and a switch, the remote nodes are effectively Wi-Fi extenders, but they aren't referred to as such.

      Trying not to go into too much detail because I'm worried I'll just confuse you more with the semantics of it all

      The general tl;dr is if you don't know what this is, it's very likely not for you

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        "The general tl;dr is if you don't know what this is, it's very likely not for you"

        I would emphasise the general part here. In a specific context yes, but it may very well be what they need. So others viewing this, it might be worth reading into unique452 response further and learning more about those concepts.

        Everyone's needs and circumstances are different and we no nothing about melbournedeals network requirements. I guess I'm just saying that people need to learn and start somewhere - be informed and know their options. As sometimes its exactly what they were looking for and just didn't know it before.

        As an IT professional for my organisation I find myself working with many non IT focused staff. They do things in such inefficient ways simply because they don't know any better.

        Once I explain to them an option or provide information on something, like you have for melbournedeals then sometimes they are amazed and say "I didn't know this was possible" or, "that will save me so much time" or that is a function I needed but cant find/confirm on other devices, or I have had this specific issue for ages and never know doing x,z,y would fix it etc…

        • +1 vote

          Agreed, I did add 'in general' specifically, but should have accentuated. I find suggesting people buy something like the Google mesh product is much simpler for them to cover the 'my Wi-Fi is bad in the bedroom' type issues as it's just a lot less headache for them. Trying to explain the semantics of the roles a router, modem, controller, APs etc play that are all separate devices in my home network frequently confuses people as their only experience is the device their ISP sent them, but then some people really do want some more flexibility in their home setup and these sorts of solutions might be more viable.

    • +1 vote

      General advice these days, at least what I give is
      1) small house/apartment, use a wifi router
      2) medium house, 2 node mesh
      3) large house, 3 node mesh
      4) IT junkies go ubiquiti
      5) granny flat? Mesh network across the gap if it has line is sight
      6) never use wifi extenders

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    Hey guys, quick question on NBN HFC. If my suburb has existing cable network (eg foxtel) and I want to connect to NBN, do I need the NBN technician to come and install anything? Or can I just buy a NBN connection box like the one here -> https://www.commander.com.au/sites/default/files/2018-12/nbn and that would suffice

    • +1 vote

      As far as I'm aware, yes, it is likely that you'll still need to arrange for your ISP to get the NBN technician to visit your premises. Even if you have the actual HFC cable (e.g. foxtel cable, or old cable internet) already in your home, the NBN technician will need to program/link the HFC box to your premises/address.

      This is why there is typically a sticker on the NBN modem/box that says to leave the box at the premises if you leave/move-out of the property.

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      Don't purchase a 2nd hand HFC connection box online. It won't connect to the NBN.

    • +1 vote

      Can confirm that you will need to be home for a 4 hour window waiting on an NBN tech even if you already have Foxtel/Telstra cable installed and operational.
      I'll be at my Mums' watching the NBN tech do exactly this on Monday.

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    Just waiting for the dream machine pro to go on sale… :/

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        just saw in another post on here! it, thanks for this.

        Finally getting my DMP and this AP.

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          Any thoughts on the benefits/differences of this vs the ac-lr access point?

          I too am looking at the dream machine pro and some access points

          Lindsay

          • +1 vote

            @Lindsayr: Hi Lindsay,

            It really depends on your use-case.If you require a long-range model right now, and since there isn't a WiFi 6 version of LR, then you might need to go for the AC-LR. However, if your home or small office does not require long range signal, it may be a better future-proof idea to get the U6-Lites. Also, the price difference between the U6-Lite and the AC-LR is not that significant.

            Besides the technical differences of WiFi 6 (on U6-Lite) and WiFi 5 (on AC-LR), the LR does have a 3x3 wifi configuration on the 2.4GHz and 2x2 wifi configuration on the 5GHz.

            What's the environment that you're planning to set your UDM-Pro and access points? and do you have any specific requirements?

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              @viewfinder: Hi @viewfinder

              This is for a house. Currently 3 bedroom lowest brick house. Adding an extension on the front at the moment, an extra 48ish sqm bottom floor and similar top floor extension (existing house remains 1 storey). Was looking at putting one access point upstairs, one downstairs and one at the other end of the house. On hfc nbn at the moment and potentially looking at adding Ubiquiti door bell/cameras in the near future. Will be setting up small cabinet under the stairs to hold patch panel etc.

              • +1 vote

                @Lindsayr: Cool, those building extensions sound exciting. Perfect timing to wire-up the infrastructure with Ethernet cables and outlets, which is particularly handy if you plan to have POE switches and etc.

                Since this is for a home environment and you plan to have a few access points scattered around, it sounds like the U6-Lites should suffice.

                You may also want to try out Ubiquiti's wireless heat map tool that you can use to upload your floorplan and insert the access points to see coverage and other wireless details (e.g. recommended channels and etc). - here's a article about it - https://tdsheridanlab.com/ubiquiti-unifi-adds-useful-wireles... or here's a youtube demo about it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZy0Qww7h0

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                  @viewfinder: Thanks @viewfinder. I will check that out, looks useful! Thanks for your help

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                    @Lindsayr: All good, no worries. Enjoy the renovations and building out your network :)

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                @Lindsayr: Unifi Dream Machine Pro paired with a couple Unifi 6 Lite would be sweet!

                Purchase a 3.5" HDD for cam recordings.

                • +1 vote

                  @Twix: Thanks @twix,

                  That could be a good option. Thanks!

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              @viewfinder: There is a Unifi 6 LR coming.

              • +1 vote

                @Twix: Thanks mate, yes, there'll likely be WiFi 6 revisions for many of the Unifi wireless line-up, which is why I mentioned that if long range is needed right now, then AC-LR is the only option for now.

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                  @viewfinder: There also is a Wi-Fi 6 rev of the FlexHD. I guess a few months before it shows up here.

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    Thanks OP. Been holding off until a sale on the Wifi 6 versions for my New Reno!!

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    Unlike the AC products, this doesn't come with the PoE injector I believe?
    I'm pretty sure this is the one you'll need for an extra $35
    https://www.wireless1.com.au/ubiquiti-unifi-poe-48-24w-g-poe...

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    Just an update, these have come into stock ahead of schedule. I ordered from them two days ago and it’s already been dispatched.

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      Looks like that first batch is sold out, new ETA is now May 31.