Seems to be the cheapest so far for the RTX3080 system. Eligible for CashRewards. Base system has a RTX3070, but the extra $350 is a worthwhile upgrade IMO. According to the Dell website it's on clearance while stocks last.
2/5 Update: Out of stock now, however R12 with 11700F + RTX3080 is available for $2,928.38
*Overpriced
..Have you seen 3080 prices lately?
* SFF gaming PC w
34 liters is not SFF
*with mediocre cooling.
Yes.
Didn't neg but are GPU prices really normalising? I haven't seen anything to suggest so
@AaronR: Go read about the latest NVIDIA driver released, and note the part about mid-May updates. You have no idea.
@jasswolf: What information specifically? The new potentially mining gimped SKUs for 3070, 3080 and 3080Ti?
I’m very interested in the topic so wondering if you know something I don’t. I believe I’m quite knowledgeable but always keen to learn.
@FireRunner: I have seem quite a few people saying GPU prices are normalising yet no actual examples from anyone.
don't know why you are downvoted for telling the truth. So many sheeps on ozbargain
Because in certain categories on this website, it's OzFanboi or OzWHEREMYGPU.
They don't like being told Dell, Alienware and generally buying a GPU at the peak of crypto madness is a bad financial decision. On a bargain website.
Can you build an equivalent PC for the same or less money?
Define equivalent… do you mean the same specs, or do you want the space-age looking case too? Subject to GPU availability, this price is easily beaten if you're not grabbing a GPU at any cost, and that situation is rapidly improving, which is why this price is rapidly improving.
For value for money from Dell, I'd rather look at 3070 and 3060 Ti G5 builds and spend $100 or so on a better CPU cooler, because this one really sucks.
Alternatively, go look at TechFast builds and do the same thing.
situation is rapidly improving, which is why this price is rapidly improving
I still haven't found any evidence to suggest an improving situation to the GPU shortage. This one case isn't proof of anything, my guess on lower price is clearing out the older gen CPUs.
Also the Dell G5 Desktops have increased in price. 3060 Ti version is $1799, 3070 is $1999 an increase from the last Dell 20% eBay sale which was $1699 and $1799 respectively
@FireRunner: GPU stock is definitely recovering. 3080s are in stock almost daily for around $1900 from Scorptec and Umart. Same with 3070s. 3060s are staying in stock for hours at Scorptec too when they used to sell out instantly.
@[Deactivated]: Thanks, that's good to hear. Still very pricey but if it's in stock it's at least beginning to recover
I still haven't found any evidence to suggest an improving situation to the GPU shortage.
Mate, get out of the OzB comment threads and actually read tech news, because you could not be more wrong.
You're so far off the mark that I'm not even going to actually provide source material. If you were actually checking this stuff you'd realise that's like saying the sky is red… do not speak with authority on the subject if you won't even do the elementary.
If you were actually checking this stuff you'd realise that's like saying the sky is red…
Doesn't the sky actually turn red in a lot of places at sunset?
@BROKENKEYBOARD: When there's smog, but yes, I should have gone with a better analogy. Reading OzB over the last 6 months is tandamount to watching people voluntarily melt their own brains for hours on end, and that's despite being able to google most of the analysis and answers they're looking for in a fraction of that time.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/10407316/redir
Have a look here to see what I'm actually describing in terms of supply and price drops. The mining craze is over, hopefully the OzB mania goes with it.
The mining craze is over, hopefully the OzB mania goes with it.
No it isn't. ROI on most 30-series is around 6 months even with the recent drop in gas prices. It won't end until eth 2.0 comes - and only then if there's not another profitable coin.
Have a look here to see what I'm actually describing in terms of supply and price drops
What you said in that comment amounts to nothing:
This monitor has a real world value of $400 max due to general prices and Dell's own sales
Same applies to this thread: if you can find better deals then post them instead of keeping them to yourself.
GPU supply and price drops are coming, source:
This is not a source, it's an article that you're making big assumptions from. A driver update doesn't mean squat and if the 3060 is successfully crypto limited then this will do the opposite of what you're suggesting because this deal includes a 3080 not a 3060. If the 3060 is crypto limited then wouldn't miners go for a 3080 instead making it harder to find? Anyway this is ozbargain not predictthefuturebargain.
@BROKENKEYBOARD: The entire 30 series will get reissued with new SKUs that are tied to the mining limiter, and it will happen mid-May, with increased supply. There's already device IDs popping up.
Pay $100 to a charity of your choice when I'm right.
The monitor deals have already been posted.
@jasswolf: Mate this is legit the most facepalm comment I’ve read here. Every doctor has said so, even police officers. I’m not even going to provide source material because you are so far off the wagon
Equivalent would be same specs, within reason. Of course, the space-age case can't be replicated as that's Dell.
So I ran some quick numbers.
The absolute cheapest 3080 at RRP would be $1700-ish? If you can get your hands on one.
The CPU is about $350.
Allow $200 for the mobo, $200 for the PSU, $150 for the ram, $100 for SSD, and $100 for the HDD.
All those components add up to $2,750, excluding a case, excluding OS, and excluding assembly.
Obviously, the configuration of ram and storage could be tweaked to be better value/optimised. Further, the allowances for each those components can be tweaked.
You can choose whatever case you want, by that would be at minimum $50.
For operating system and assembly, you can always put it all together yourself. However, not everyone necessarily wants to do that.
I know Alienware cops a fair share of negative feedback, but you have to admit, once you break it down, it's not as bad as it seems. Buyers should know that it's certainly not the best configuration and know that Dell is not running an ideal cooling solution for the GPU and CPU. But there certainly is an audience for this rig and it definitely is a deal.
Those interested, I'd encourage you to do some research and know what you're buying first. Understand if it suits your needs specifically.
EDIT: I hadn't realised, but it's running liquid cooling, presumably a AIO, with a 1000W PSU. There's a couple extra dollars in that there.
@mudkipz: Try $120 for a better airflow case, $100ish for the motherboard, $80 for a PSU (750 W or higher), $90 for the RAM, $70 for the NVMe drive and $50 for the 1 TB. The AIO is super basic and worth no more than $70-$80.
The 3080 can be bought overseas at better rates, including Founders Editions at MSRP from BestBuy if you're super keen to chase down a good price via a monthly drop (though that will also improve soon). That would be about $1050.
@jasswolf: @jasswolf
Those prices per component are the absolute lowest end possible and may not necessarily be achievable without hunting around. But for the benefit of the discussion, let's go with that. If you add all that up, plus a locally acquired 3080, CPU and Windows 10; it really is coming pretty darn close to the cost of this pre-built unit. Doing that exercise, using the prices you quoted (on the low-end), plus $1700 for a locally-acquired GPU, plus $350 for CPU, comes to a total of $2,630. This is excluding the operating system, and I think the allowance of $1700 for the GPU is still on the skinny side.
Buying a 3080 overseas is not a fair comparison, considering effort and warranty. While this might yield a more favourable financial outcome; for the purposes of this comparison, I don't think it's fair.
Consider, one person could certainly hunt around and procure all these parts separately and even go to the lengths of buying overseas components. But on the other hand, someone else might not have the time, energy or ability to go through all that. It can be simply easier to just buy it pre-built and it just works. Also, consider warranty and troubleshooting. When you factor in that the cost of the pre-built is close (or, I'd say fractionally better, in fact) versus DIY; I think it's fair to say that this is not "overpriced" at all.
Again, those interested should always be researching what they're buying and see if it suits their needs. I am certainly not the target demographic for this machine; but I think that there's value in what it represents to others.
Those prices per component are the absolute lowest end possible and may not necessarily be achievable without hunting around
Some of these suggestions are not even achievable at all or would require months or years of waiting in hope of prices to fall. For example expecting to get a Z490 motherboard with wifi for $100? Nonsense.
@mudkipz: The problem with your entire premise is paying $1700 for a $1000 GPU.
If we can't get around that concept, I'm not interested in this discussion.
@jasswolf: And your entire premise is saying it's a rip off based on your unrealistic prices. Even at launch the 3080 was over $1100 and steadily kept rising. Similarly with the motherboard I have never seen a Z490 motherboard that cheap. You really should start posting these deals instead of keeping them all to yourself, that's the whole point of ozbargain.
@BROKENKEYBOARD: Exchange rates have dropped since then, and process yields have gone up. Of course GPU prices are a rought, and NVIDIA is responsible for none of it.
The motherboard discussion was just a vague figure, I'm not interested in quibbling over $30. I'll leave it there, since we've both marked out where we're at with the facts at hand.
@jasswolf: I don't care about exchange rates, yields or who is responsible. The important thing is how much it costs and a 3080 does not cost $1000. If you could buy them for $1000 why haven't you opened up your own shop? You could make thousands of dollars for minutes of work.
The motherboard discussion was just a vague figure
Yes just like most other figures you come up with. Even this quibbling over $30 is another vague figure. Like always if you can get Z490 motherboards for $100 or even $130 you should be posting these bargains instead of keeping them to yourself.
The problem with your entire premise is paying $1700 for a $1000 GPU.
If we can't get around that concept, I'm not interested in this discussion.
I have allowed $1700 for the GPU, as that is the general price cheapest models listed from local suppliers in Australia. The bulk of the overall cost is related to the GPU. While we all wish for GPUs to be cheaper, they're just expensive and hard to source right now.
If you are able to find 3080s for the price range you describe, please do share and post a deal here.
A mate ordered one of the R12 models a little while ago which came with a 512 NVME and a 1tb HDD. Does anyone know what (if any) additional storage he'll be able to add to the unit when he gets it? Will it fit another NVME or SSD? Cheers.
There are 2 x 2.5" caddies on the bottom of the case but no more M2 slots on the motherboard. He can use a PCIe M2 NVME adapter though.
It will fit another NVME if you use a PCIe adapter. There is only one NVME slot on the mobo.
Hows does warranty work for the card if I put it in my custom built PC, sell the rest of the system, and I have issues with the card 5 months down the line?
Good question. Wouldn't want to find out the hard way.
If we throw a twin fan 3060/3070 in this system, it will fit and sell easy. But if we keep the 3080 and it runs into any issues, that is a lot of trouble.
You'll have to read through the fine print, but at a guess I'd say you'll have very little chance of getting the card replaced under warranty. I pretty sure there will be some exclusions for not using the product "as intended"
With great difficulty - in reality, it won't.
Basically, your warranty is on the entire system, not specific components as individual items. Thus, if you need to call it starts with the entire system and running diagnostics and explaining the issue. If you no longer have the system as you've sold it, then the warranty is also gone. To repair in case of real fault, you'd need to put it back in the original system, then they'd troubleshoot and resolve from that, which involves repair the whole system by their own technicians. They're not just going to send you out a replacement $2500 card cause you say there's a fault with it, and leave it for you to install and report back.
This is what is stopping me from buying this system, I hope it goes OOS soon lol
I just cannot buy Intel. AMD or bust for me.
$4.5K? Tell him he's dreamin
I'm sure he will get plenty of offers from people who want to pay by bank payment… Of course the payment will clear in 24 - 48 hours and they park their cars a few streets away and walk to the house for unknown reasons.
Does anyone know if I can upgrade the RAM on this system with non-OEM RAM? I've heard you can't do it on the HP Omens as the clock will fall down to 2400mhz, so you are stuck with upgrading it only through HP.
OEM rams are HyperX Fury so the safest way is to upgrade them with another set of Fury.
The motherboard seems not support 3600mhz and above. You’d better pick another set of 3200mhz rams, otherwise you won’t be able to enable XMP and the rams will run at 2400mhz.
Another issue is the thickness of the rams. The ram slots are pretty close with each other. If your new rams are thicker than 7mm (e.g HyperX Predator), they might touch each other and put pressure on the slots.
Cool deal. Really tempted but all the games I've been playing lately can be played on potato pc.
Lol yeah I have a great PC and find myself playing indy games on Switch
Bought another PC. Because…
What do you guys think of the Aurora with Ryzen instead of Intel?
Much worse value right now. All of the configs are very overpriced.
good to know, going to wait for better prices, thanks
Nice deal, is this eligible for cash back if paid through PayPal?
Yes.
Respect to all the people buying this just to play LoL.
Yes i am really surprised how many adults play computer games. I used to play as a kid but don't really have the time or interest anymore. Not criticising anyone who does, we all have different hobbies. Yet still shocked how big the adult gaming market is
I was referring to League of Legends. A computer game that does not require a powerful computer to run.
I bet you’d have the time if you had the interest.
Yes definitely
What hobby has taken its place? Or is it more that between work and family any downtime is for rest not gaming?
Photography would be my hobby. I also feel a bit guilty playing games like I'm wasting time and I should be doing something more productive. Then again I waste time doing other trivial things. To each their own
There's always other things you can do with a pc, which make them so great
Yes but this GPU heavy system is mainly for games, unless you do video encoding or machine learning but I think such users would be in the minority.
lots of people in IT game
looks huge!!!!!
Can you cancel for a full refund before they ship these? I'm on the fence but might buy it and mull it over for the next week.
Yes - but you need to call them. I had about 1-1.5 weeks between my order and cancelling - prior to it being "in production".
Wasn't any drama but they did say it had to be internally approved over the phone, they sent an email confirming cancellation a few days later.
From the FAQ
Can I cancel my Order?
Before Production/Packaging: It may be possible to cancel your order before the production and packaging process starts.
Check your Online Order Support for the current status of your order is listed as “In Production” or “Shipped” it is not longer possible to cancel your order.
After Production/Shipped Orders: Orders that have already started the production process or that have shipped cannot be cancelled. If the order is no longer needed you will need to request a Return by contacting Customer Support from the “Action Menu” on your Online Order Support.
https://www.dell.com/support/order-status/en-au/order-suppor…
Thanks for this. I'm definitely interested now
So I wonder if these will come with the new mining crippled skus since the long lead time suggest that the GPUs may be fresh off the press when they ship?
Excuse ignorance but what mining crippled skus?
Oh basically just new revisions of all of the rtx series which have been deliberately speed limited when used for mining
My understanding is the 3080ti is the target but happy to be proven wrong.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-lite-hash-…
Just fyi… Not vouching for the credibility of the source
I was hoping to mine…
Same, I wonder if it's possible to confirm whether these will be crippled
What statistic would tell us if these were crippled? I just ordered but I’m worried now…
I also heard Dell do a ‘restock’ charge if you send it back
@cc23: If you mine and get less money than expected. You get paid daily so you’d find out pretty early
You can't confirm it, one of the goals of the new mining limiters is to make it so you can't tell, since the last time they did it where people could tell, people found workarounds for it super fast
Looks like these might be safe. 3060 RTX cards start shipping with the cripple mid-May with new revisions of 3080 RTX sometime after
https://amp.hothardware.com/news/nvidia-confirms-upgraded-ge…
It does seem that why from this article.
Hope so!
valid concern
As tempting as it is, I don't need one right now. Not sure if it's worth waiting until EOFY or perhaps Black Friday later on in the year.
Just gone up in price??
No
My bad had wrong spec
No RGB, No thanks. RGB is useless, but I love it.
Light it up: The new AlienFX RGB LED lighting adds an instantly iconic look to the Aurora. For our Lunar Light option, we’ve added a new front-facing lighting ring and extra Alienware workmark lighting zone that’s unmistakably unique to Alienware engineering.
Alienware have been pimping their computers with RGB for decades lol, it's kind of their thing
OOS for me.
In stock for me
Seems to be back, previously when I went to cart it was telling me it was no longer available.
Good upgrade for a 7700k/1080ti pairing for 4k gaming?
Huge upgrade
Thanks, I usually on research when I build and that's how long ago I built. :)
This is great value. Looking to upgrade from a 580 myself
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