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A Bigger Picture - Malcolm Turnbull - Hardback $5.69 + Delivery ($0 with Prime & Min $49 Spend) @ Amazon US via AU

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This is selling for $30+ in stores so $9.85 is a great price. The price for the paperback is $34.99 from Amazon as well so not sure why the hardback is so much cheaper. Well and truly the lowest price ever for the hardback.

No matter which way your politics go, it's always interesting to read a book from the perspective of the highest office in the land.

In saying that I'm sure this will be subjected to partisan comments and negs.

Edit 930pm: Down to $9.78 from $9.85
Edit 8.53am 15/07: Down to $9.60
Edit 9.04am 17/07: Down to $5.69 (thanks daveozsydney)

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  • +99

    lol.

    • -10

      He'd better be giving ALL the proceeds from this book to charity as he hardly needs the cash himself.

      • +1

        perspective of the highest office in the land.

        And the shortest term.

        Also should've titled this book "Malcolm in the middle".

    • +7

      Funny how the book has a spine when the author didn't.

      • Nah, he just needed a marketing man, oh no, wait, he had one ;-)

        • He did… he had "Scotty from Marketing" ;)

  • +95

    Does it detail how he (profanity) the NBN?

    • +8

      Yes he did, but I don't know if it's included.

    • -52

      He did not (profanity) the NBN. He was all for it, and backed Rudd, Abbott and his chronies opposed it, so they threw him under the bus and made it out like it was not them who blocked it. Same as marriage equality, and same goes for renewables.

      • +65

        Well then in that case he capitulated to his party members and was a weak leader, therefore he actually did fck the NBN

        • +23

          It is a lose/lose situation honestly. He tries to progress within the Liberal party, and gets hung for it. Joining the Labour party is also tough, as it is near impossible to win a federal election, and if you do and try to implement change, you also get kicked out. Kevin Rudd for example.

          • +24

            @b0cky54: After progressing within the Liberal party, up to the highest office in the land, he could have done a hell of a lot to undo the shafting of the NBN he'd "had to" preside over meekly as Federal Communications Minister.

            He did no such thing.

          • -6

            @b0cky54: 'Joining the Labour party is also tough, as it is near impossible to win a federal election'

            Thank heavens for that.

            • +11

              @R4: I have voted Liberal and Labour straight down the middle most of my life, but Labour seems less nuts lately, the Liberals seem to be going down the Trump/QAnon path.

              • -6

                @b0cky54: I disagree. If anything they're moving more to the left - conservatism in the west is kind of failing at the moment - you see it in the UK & US. The Conservative party in the UK is conservative in name only as they increase taxes and the size of government. In the US, Donald Trump wasn't that right-wing (certainly compared to many in his party) and spent taxpayer money on a biblical scale - if a conservative is not fiscally conservative they may as well be a socialist. Western democracy works when there's tension between left and right and they reach consensus at the centre. Maybe we're heading that way right now.

                Morrison is lucky in that Albanese is currently unelectable. Unfortunately, many people base their voting intentions on look and image rather than substance and he doesn't come across well. He's also kind of hard-left - one of his biggest heroes is Jeremy Corbyn, the ultra-left nutjob that used to run the UK Labour party. Australia doesn't do hard-left having learnt a harsh lesson when Gough Whitlam was PM.

                • @R4: It's not about the personalities any more. A puppet to us is the same to us as a muppet.

                  Total control is established. Power is assured. The system makes it so. Like the convicts before you, you have no choice- your trust or distrust of the Leader of the day matters not. All your choices belong to us.

              • @b0cky54: So I'd guess you voted for Turnbull but not Abott/Morrison?

                What does your comment have to do with Turnbull? A moderate, surely?

                • @manic: Democracy in old colonial mining areas has been an illusory construct from the day from day one. Designed to keep some hoping, some desperate, but always the majority 'on the right track'.

                  It doesn't matter who either of us vote for, because the majority will vote for what they think suits them. Those with the reach to control the majority win each round. The populace keep losing. For them the odds remain worse than beating the house at a casino.

                  • @resisting the urge: What's the alternative?

                    • @b2dz: mmm. apart from ranting and trolling? Hmmm I dunno.. now that does stretch me!

                      It would probably start with candidates having to usher in transparency and accountability, and wrapping every gov effort (inc all gov services) in a lifecycle whereby it is publicly measured and reviewed on a regular basis, ensuring continuous improvement and quality as defined against (what would need to be)very finite aims of public service. Thus automation over bureaucracy where it counts, and careful attention to everything beyond that otherwise.

                      Also, free sharing of all public data unless by a very public process of judicially managed secrecy. No individual in public service being empowered to silo knowledge, and something to ensure that lawmakers remaining personally responsible for every law they write, refuse, or amend. Including the constitution, which should be regularly re-written by the people and popular vote- and of course a proper commission to measure and prosecute corruption whenever the smell of it arises.

                      Maybe a more monastic approach to public service, whereby teachers, scientists and nurses get support and encouragement ahead of miners, developers, religious groups, lawyers and doctors…

                      Start there, and it wouldn't be long before society manages itself more effectively and comes to terms with the risks we face. I'd say the States and Territories would be abolished in short order, the number of politicians and public service would plummet, and everyone else would find there is a lot of very important work to do getting life on track before the 21st century wipes it out.

              • @b0cky54:

                I have voted Liberal and Labour straight down the middle most of my life, but Labour seems less nuts lately, the Liberals seem to be going down the Trump/QAnon path.

                Well it probably depends on you media source. When I watched ABC I thought Libs were nuts, then I watched Sky news and thought Labor were nuts.
                Maybe stop watching the news…

        • +9

          Or in this case Aussies are a great bunch of idiots and voted against their own interest.

          So the general public demonstrated the frustrations of democracy and fckd themselves. Don't blame it on Turnbull when you did it to yourselves. Deep down you all know who you are.

          • @fuzor: Do tell who is representing me, when after votes are counted, the bottom choice gets elected? I am one of the million voters that are not represented. If you say I am represented by the outcome, therefore I, and millions are responsible for the NBN despite putting the representative last. Lovely.

            Its a safe seat too, with free Australian at every cafe.

      • +26

        Having actually read this book, Turnbull thinks he did the right thing with the NBN. I'm paraphrasing, but he says that he took a poorly organised GBE that was failing to come up to speed with the rollout and bleeding cash, and turned it into a smoothly running professional business that hit its delivery targets. And there is a certain amount of truth in his statements.

        However, he is still utterly wrong in insisting that the MTM method was a valid and suitable choice, and history has shown that the copper and HFC segments of the network (the bits that differed from the original ALP plan) have cost far more than projected, require significant and costly maintenence, and generally are not fit for the purpose of a national communications network.

        • +11

          I haven't read the book but what delivery targets is he referencing there? He failed to deliver key election promises on both cost (~$30 billion) and on time (All premises by 2016). Instead the cost doubled to ~$60 billion and it was declared completed in 2020.

        • +5

          Not going to buy the book although I am curios about some events. I think it was also him who took the credit on the wave of successful LIGO experiment parading CSIRO participation, while the exact lab that participated and polished the optics was closed due to luck of funding. I remember talking back then to a lady who was working at the CSIRO and how upset she was. Also, my memory could be wrong, I think, it was under his "management" when one of the promising research groups on corona virus vaccine was de-funded just before they started clinical trials. Did he write here about his peculiar (cough, cough, GBR charity donation choices in his bigger view for Australia?

          • +1

            @a1oka: A random selection of facts there. Not sure what the corona virus research has to do with it..,

            • +1

              @opilot87: During his time it was a push from his Gov to end a "curiosity-based research" and to do a business-oriented research. At that moment, researches were encouraged to do so. To a degree that people like Prof Petrovsky even did not bother to apply for funds to finalise almost finished projects. Because it was for small probability/high impact event and not for the papilloma virus, I guess.

              The guy with a bigger picture in mind would have been a national hero by now. Imagine, work from home - reliable and fast internet. Check! Deeply researched topic for creating a vaccine for a current outbreak? Check! What I am trying to say is in his book has he any reflection on how he did not see a bigger picture. Or is it mostly jerking off on how great he was?

              • -1

                @a1oka: I was going to tell you to read the book, but sounds like you have some pre-conceived and deranged views already in place so probably don’t bother

                • @opilot87: Nah, I think, I'll pass on it, thank you. There are way better books in my long to-read list.

                  Although, In case I am wrong and you are right, I might read it. Could you say, that it worth it and there are some thing would help me to change my deranged opinion? I am aware of confirmation bias.

                  edit: Looks like I negged your comment, apologies, it wasn't intentional I can't remove it now :(

      • +1

        I've seen him on podcasts / interviews within the last few years thinking he did the right thing with this shit-show of an NBN lol

      • +3

        Yet he was all too happy to tell me and the Armadale constituents he came to visit how good 25/1 was going to be on our fixed wireless and talk over the top of me when I stood up questioned him on that.

        I think he's a dick.

        • -1

          Ahh, someone in the crowd stood up and talked over the top of him, and he dared to continue speaking and talk over an obnoxious crowd member. Yeh total ****

    • +1

      Why do you think this is a hardback copy?

      • +18

        It's hard to back that 12 Mbps is enough.

      • +30

        Because it take too long to download the ebook.

    • +5

      Him and Tony Skull-****ed the NBN

    • +1

      Try downloading the e-book and find out first hand!

    • -3

      The NBN was (profanity) by 2012. It had completely stalled.

      The options weren't between the perfect option and the bad one, they were between two bad options.

    • -4

      I got FTTP under a Liberal government. Wait how does that work?

    • -1

      He is the guy who practically invented the internet…

    • +4

      Not really, he just talks about how Rudd was an incompetent dullard and talks about how he's literally the only person in the country that knew the right way to fix the NBN, regardless of whether that's true. Absolutely no mention of their original commitment of 25Mbps for all Australian's by 2016 that was quietly abandoned and completely misses the entire point of why a high speed broadband rollout is important.

    • -10

      The NBN was frigged from the moment it was conceived - it's business and implementation models were deeply flawed - Rudd basically made it up on the fly.

      The NBN is business school fodder for how NOT to do a nation-building infrastructure project.

      • +3

        Speaking of making shit up on the fly ………

      • Next you’ll tell us that Scotty is an exemplary prime minister.

        • -8

          No but look at the alternative

      • +1

        I don't think your comment is fair. The Rudd government had a policy of FTTH (fibre) for the vast majority of Australians. This was changed under a Liberal government to use MTM (Multi Technology Mix) where feasible instead, basically re-using existing copper and coax lines.

        This is a major reason as to why the NBN is in a shambles. Recently the Liberal government backpeddled on this and said they would now look at doing the original FTTH model for most Australians. https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/09/23/nbn-backflip-liberals/

        • -2

          Nothing wrong with the tech that Rudd wanted the NBN to use - it was the best available at the time. The problem was the business model that he used - it was deeply flawed and directly contributed to what the NBN has become. It's cost as originally envisaged was also way undercooked.

    • @ChilloBro … didn't '(profanity) the NBN' … Tony Abbott (as opposition leader) appointed Turnbull as Shadow Communications ('Minister' is a misnomer) and told Turnbull to sell the dog with fleas (Coalition' s NBN model). It is alleged that Abbott actually thought that Turnbull had invented the internet (he didn't, he was just an initial investor in OzEmail and sold out of it just before the Dot.com Bulle burst in 1999) hence given the job to sell the Liberal's dumbed-down NBN policy.

  • +3

    He can afford to drop the price after he netted 30k from half the LNP pirating it.

    • Could be a pricing error TBH as the only place it has dropped is Amazon.

      • +3

        Is it still more expensive than toilet paper?

  • +32

    I am surprised the printers could find a book cover big enough for his head to fit onto

    • +54

      This book has more of a spine than he did while in power

      • -20

        Says someone who's hiding behind a moniker ;)

        • +22

          Says someone who’s hiding behind a moniker.

          • +1

            @datsuzei: Says someone who’s hiding behind a moniker.

            • @idonotknowwhy: Says moniker who's hiding behind someone.

              • +4

                @b2dz: This isn't Reddit I'm gonna have to ruin this chain of responses. We are adults, no fun allowed.

                • +1

                  @ozbjunkie: … says someone not having fun behind a moniker.

  • +27

    Firewood can be found much cheaper at servos and on Gumtree.

  • +10

    It is a good read, no matter your opinion on him, he is way better than his predecessor or his successor in many aspects. I hoped he could last longer but well… if you can grab the audible one it is even better.. I enjoyed it.

    • +8

      He polled significantly worse than both.
      https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/malcolm-turnbull-les...

      He's just another rich inner city lefty, which is why he polled well with other rich inner city lefties while everyone else despises him

      • +12

        Turnbull a ‘lefty’? Lmao

        • +1

          Are you aware that he only joined the Libral Party because Graham Richardson blocked his application to join Labor?

          • +2

            @elektron: He was offered by Keating to join the ALP but turned him down.

            • @crawfs: That was a long time ago, while he was busy making his fortune and didn't yet have an interest in a career politics. Once he was ready, he knocked at the door of the Labor party.

              • +1

                @elektron: Isn't the sole source of that claim Graham Richardson who now works for Sky news? Not sure if I'd trust the word of a guy who works for the Australian equivalent of Fox news, not to say that Turnbull is particularly trustworthy either just to be clear.

                • -1

                  @crawfs: Graham Richardson is a lifelong member of the Labor party and has never tried to join the Liberals.

                  This is from wikipedia and if this doesn't prove that Turnbull is a lefty, I don't know what would. I would also suggest that calling sources that don't reflect your view of the world "untrustworthy" makes you one as well - but you're in good company with Malcom and Kevin.

                  Turnbull has had a long affiliation with the Liberal Party of Australia throughout his career. During his time in the Australian Republican Movement however, he considered running for preselection for the Australian Labor Party. In 2015, it was revealed that Turnbull had held talks with Labor state politician John Della Bosca during the 1990s on a possible party switch, and that he had harboured aspirations in his youth to head the Australian Workers' Union, which is linked with the Labor Party. The accusation, made by former Labor Foreign Minister Bob Carr, was cited by Labor Leader Bill Shorten during the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption.

                  Those considering buying this book would also be well-advised to read this.

                  • +3

                    @elektron:

                    This is from wikipedia and if this doesn't prove that Turnbull is a lefty, I don't know what would. I would also suggest that calling sources that don't reflect your view of the world "untrustworthy" makes you one as well - but you're in good company with Malcom and Kevin.

                    I don't see how what you've cited here backs up your claim that Turnbull is a "leftie". You're basically saying that because he (i) was interested in joining the ALP in the 90's (i.e. over 20 years before he was PM), and because (ii) he had harboured aspirations in his youth to head the AWU (i.e. probably like 40 years ago) that he's somehow a "leftie"?

                    So anyone who might have been interested in the ALP and/or union movement at some point in their life is a "leftie"? Sorry, but that's just complete and utter BS.

                    I also find it weird to call someone a "leftie" - policies are left-wing or right-wing, people are not inherently left or right wing - to reduce someone down to a "leftie" or a "rightie" is just absurd reductionism that leads to the sort of partisan hackery and bickering we're seeing all around the world right now.

                    • -1

                      @p1 ama: And the fact that he first tried joining Labor before eventually running for Parliament as a Liberal - this has not been disputed. And the fact that he's funded and otherwise supported left-wing "independent" candidates running against the Coalition in the last election and in every bi-election since he left (no pun intended) politics.

                      You mention policies - Turnbull was overthrown as the leader of the Coalition twice, precisely because of the left-wing policies he wanted to take the the election in 2009 and 2019, especially the carbon tax. The same carbon tax that also cost leadership for Gillard, Rudd and Shorten and helped Abbot and Morrison win the unwinnable elections.

                      • @elektron: I think you need to learn the difference between moderates and left-wings. Factions are well-established in our parties and have had significant roles - they contributed to the leadership spills, for one.

                        The "unwinnable" elections were won through constant smear and fear campaigns. Want to drive an EV to your campsite on the weekend? You can't, according to the marketing buffoon.

      • +21

        Far from me to defend Turnbull but your argument is a complete red herring.

        The original argument is that he is better than Abbott/ScoMo, and your response is that he polled worse than both at one point in time. I don't see how that has anything to do with the original argument.

        Polls are stupid IMO. If someone you don't like is unpopular, you cite the polls. If someone you like is unpopular, you will say they are standing up for their principles despite the polls.

        Not to mention that polls taken at one point in time are hardly a reflection of someone's entire political career.

        Similar to your argument about him being rich. If someone you like is rich, they are successful. If someone you don't like is rich, they are out of touch…etc.

        Just astounded by the lack of sophistication in your reasoning.

        • -11

          Truly spoken with the exact elitist cerebral cadence that only someone who Malcom would appeal to.

          • +5

            @studentl0an: It doesn't change the fact that your argument is a logical fallacy, but doesn't seem like you're bright enough to figure that out.

            • -10

              @p1 ama: Actually it makes my point exactly. If only you could have seen the irony of you cementing it with your analysis.

              • +2

                @studentl0an: Oooh, using sarcasm to appear smarter now are we? Level up! Still logical fallacies everywhere though.

      • +4

        To be fair, his approval rating took huge hits when Abbott would make statements to the media to undermine his position. Abbott was never going to let him off easy. I think Turnbull underestimated Abbott here - after Abbott lost the power struggle, he had less to lose, and was never going to give up on revenge.

        I find these forum posts quite fascinating to see the partisan bickering. But at the end of the day what happened, happened, and it's great to get this level of insight.

    • +11

      Is that you Malcolm ???

      • +15

        I hoped he could last longer

        No, that’s Lucy.

    • lol, thanks for your review Kev.

    • +1

      he is way better than his predecessor or his successor in many aspects.

      Turnbull was the worst PM we've had in decades. Hawke, Keating, Howard, Rudd, Gillard, Abbott and Morrison are all better because they had a vision and pursued it with passion. ie what leaders are supposed to do. Turnbull just said what he thought people wanted to hear, the worst possible option.

  • +32

    That's pretty expensive toilet paper, not a bargain.

    • Not really compatible to bum, at least not the covers, lol.

      • +1

        At least you thought it was funny.

        • +2

          Excellent burn . +1 ,sir.

  • +5

    Is "Sky-high opinion polls" a Murdoch reference?

  • Wouldn't be free shipping with prime since it's US, would need the $49 min spend regardless

    edit: oops never mind, misread title

  • +5

    Waiting for the bigger picture with Donald Trump.

    • Replace picture with head.

    • +4

      you mean the Picture Book ?

    • Making America Great Again: An Illustrated Guide

  • +2

    Ohhh the irony of the title.

  • Expensive toilet paper.

  • -2

    IIRC I didn't finish this one, was a bit meh. Chris Pyne's book was a bit more enjoyable if you can ignore his smugness, but even that was just OK.

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