I'll be waiting for the drop :(
For those in need they report as in stock, have yourselves a feast!
MSI RTX 3080 VENTUS 3X 10G OC LHR Graphics Card $1,884.14 Shipped @ Rosman Computers
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If you pay that much for a LHR your gona lose a lot of money in a few months with card prices declining just wait it out man!
You only lose money if you sell it though. If you just want to use it to play games and you want it now then it's fine.
This
Except if you just want to game, this price is bananas. It wasn't long ago you could build an entire, good system with a gaming card for this much.
Sure, I agree with you that the price is bananas, but if you want a powerful gaming PC right now then you've got to work with the options available to you.
@Jabob: Can't disagree with that, but damn you know? Just a terrible time to do it.
If I was in the market I'd just be looking pre-built I think.
@Sxio: Yeah, prebuilt systems seem to be the best bang for buck option right now. Getting a disassembled Techfast build and replacing the case, PSu and cooler is probably the best bang for buck option.
Almost 2K for an LHR is not a deal.
Sorry to say it, but it's the truth. No, I'm not downvoting, but just want people to be aware and don't put their feet in their mouths.
Rossman are dodgy
This practice has been covered here before but they still haven't changed their ways
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Do not buy from them !!! I had same issue just last month, advertised instock, waited 3 weeks still no shipping. I wanted to cancel, and charged me $35 cancellation fee!!!
That is some bullshit. Did you try cancelling through your bank instead?
I don’t know if other people feel the same way, but the more I see LHR slapped on these GPUs, it makes me angrier and angrier. If we are going to get absolutely ripped off, at least let us offset our purchase with mining.
I'm not really for deliberately cooking the planet to make a few dollars, but I can't help feel these cards are a cop out; as though we the retail consumers don't know how to responsibility use their devices.
They're the ones who sold full powered 3080s to miners by the crate load.
Anyone know the actual price for the 3000 series cards?
If you are asking the msrp of the 3080, the FE sold for $1139, and I think I recall the 3070 $879
Ok thanks. I’ll probably get the 3070 when it’s near or at msrp. Some day.
Probably after the 4000 series/3000 supers launch hahahahahhh I'm going to go cry in a corner now ><
Yep, I got an evga xc3 ultra 3070 for $950 from PLE in December.
This is one of the lowest quality/lowest power 3080 cards you can buy, because of that it's too much money
They are already talking about RTX 40-series late 2022 launch. These cards will depreciate quicker than you thought.
AMD coming in with new cards too.
What about people that need a card now? Late 2022 is a long time away…
The question is: Do you really need a 3080 now, when you can pick up a 2070/2080 at more reasonable price.
Can you? A 2070 super with possibly dubious warranty off ebay seems to be about $800 something, ish. Hard to tell. The 3080 out performs it by about 40% in a random 1440p benchmark…so yeah it's a bit better $/flop, but older tech, probably no warranty…i personally wouldn't bother with either!
If you were on 4K gaming, 2070 isn't enough, while 2080 is old + relatively expensive considered with no warranty.
3080 is still expensive now, and we can expect the price is dropping.
If you were not in hurry, just wait.
Otherwise, a new 3070 is still better than 2070/2080 imo.
msi cards are rubbish if its not gaming x trio at least….
Why post this if you don't think it is cheap enough to purchase yourself?
Clearly the demand here in Oz is sustaining the higher prices, and I love the rants posted here, they are great to watch and they provide an educational service for those needing a thought adjustment.
Do you mean the rant posts provide entertainment service? XD
I genuinely don't get why anybody would purchase an LHR card for a ~10% discount on a non-LHR 3080. A 3080 will generate around $8 per day if you mine 24/7. In a month, that's already $240, i.e. more than what the discount of the LHR. Even if you only mine for half of each day, you're still better off getting a non-LHR.
FWIW, I think this just backs up what I've been saying all along, which is that crypto/mining was always just a distraction. The real problem was that Nvidia chose to partner with Samsung, as opposed to TSMC, who are likely all backed up with supplying AMD, and yields from Samsung's fabs were always low and stock was just hard to come by. On top of that, increasing GDDR6X prices really did a number on Nvidia (hence the 3080 Ti, which is just a 3090 with half the VRAM).
My feeling from the start was that this was always going to be a tough generation for Nvidia because they went with Samsung. I think it really shows given that AMD stock has improved dramatically, both their CPUs and GPUs are in gear and that's all of course TSMC.
For those of you who think GPU prices are going to come down significantly, you're going to be in for a very long wait (I feel you guys) because demand is still ridiculously high… Also LHR is unfortunate, but if it's the only way we can get these cards in to the hands of actual Gamers who these cards were intended for, so be it. I ordered my card last November at MSRP ($1200 EVGA 3080 XC3 Ultra), 9 months later it's finally shipped, but it's #$%* I missed out on the non LHR cards by a month q-_-p
but if it's the only way we can get these cards in to the hands of actual Gamers who these cards were intended for, so be it
Not thinking of this from a mining vs. gaming perspective, but what makes gamers "who these cards were intended for"? What about video editing, 3D rendering, compute acceleration, 3D modelling, machine learning, weather simulations, particle physics simulations…etc. all of which benefit greatly from the parallel processing power of GPUs.
The use cases for GPUs as a general purpose computation tool is only going to increase over time, so my concern is that this sort of behaviour will lead to increased market segmentation which is just good for Nvidia and bad for everyone else.
E.g. Nvidia charging 4x as much for a Quadro card vs. a GeForce card because artificial driver limitations were put onto the GeForce card for certain CAD applications. My fear is that this will just turn into a "microtransaction" model that we're already seeing with Tesla - e.g. want ray-tracing? $400. DLSS? $250. Support for Premiere Pro? $985…etc.
Oops, was not thinking about designers and engineers (I'm a former Industrial Designer, just wasn't thinking 😅), but you are right, not just gamers… I guess the gripe with miners is unlike most people who only ever need one card maybe two at the most, they buy all the stock using whatever means possible and don't share with other consumers. One only needs to see that photo of all those limited edition Gundam cards getting ready to be sold in mining rigs to get what I mean (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/limited-edition-asus-gunda…)…
I guess the gripe with miners is unlike most people who only ever need one card maybe two at the most, they buy all the stock using whatever means possible and don't share with other consumers. One only needs to see that photo of all those limited edition Gundam cards getting ready to be sold in mining rigs to get what I mean
The only issue I have with that (I'm coming from a computational economics and distributed computing background) is that the exact same argument could be made about gamers as well.
If you game for 2 hours per day, on average, then you are only making use of less than 10% of your GPU's total potential. If anything, gaming is probably one of the most wasteful uses of GPUs because it is decentralised. When most are making use of less than 10% of a GPU, it only makes sense to move towards centralised computing (e.g. streaming services) to be able to load balance - instead of a ratio of 1 GPU : 1 gamer, you can probably hit closer to 1:6, which is cheaper for everyone.
Let's not kid ourselves that many gamers are just buying expensive GPUs as showpieces to put on their desks (which I have no issue with, it's no different from buying expensive art). It's just hard to use any morality-based arguments to justify that this is somehow "good".
(FWIW, I'm a gamer and I enjoy having a pretty PC sit on my desk as much as everyone, but let's not kid ourselves that this is some good use of hardware).
Dodgy retailer is dodgy.
2k for a Ventus.Personally waiting for a decent game to drop first.
A complete scam!
Don't be stupid, guys serious!$1000 more than it should cost
Gosh dang it, price now jacked into $2999. Rosmancomputers, you've done it again, lol
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