Queensland has suddenly had snap lockdown with 6 hours notice. It's supposed to be for three days but may last longer.
What's your thoughts? How long will the QLD lockdown last? Will the lockdown end in three days?
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Last year my parents were here from Sydney and had to do home quarantine. Police came randomly twice.
Extend and end just before big Ekka long weekend… only to have it lockdown again after ekka done.
Qld, probably, doesn’t need to be as long as Melbourne. Our problem is, like usual, our luck was wretched. Two days after the infected removalists went through we had infected people at the MCG and two days after that we had infected people at the Rugby and in a bar watching England crash and burn in the soccer. What are the f’ing odds of that?
Bloody COVID is drawn to Victoria like a moth to a flame and our, lemming, population, runs all over the city. We don’t even know what LGA’s are, let alone have any thought of staying within the boundaries of one. One of the drawbacks of a “liveable” city is people can, easily, travel around so they do.
Even now we are trying to put out spot fires. /Rant over.
My best wishes to everyone who is dealing with lockdown and restrictions. Let’s hope that vaccination will, eventually, be a way back to some normality. However, until the “strollout” gets us to the requisite vaccination level we are stuck with the short, sharp lockdown as the best option.
Fingers crossed for everyone.
And a traffic controller who somehow got the virus
But we have no idea how
This is proof of time travel someone needs Vic to get infected
There are going to be outlier infections. People are asymptomatic or don’t want to be tested. The best we can do is hope we can get ahead of pathways to bring the “spot fires” to ground; hence the containment levels we’ve put in place. We need to follow the drill to minimise our chances of getting infected. Frankly, I don’t think we can have crowds at our sporting venues until the vaccine rate is high enough. Unless we can find a combination of vaccination and testing that allows us to spot the infected.
It's definitely down to luck. VIC probably wouldn't have had to lock down if only that man didn't meet up with his friend to go to the footy that day.
You mean if some NSWers didn't seed a fifth wave?
Completely agree. We locked down the apartment as soon as we knew we had cases but, by then, the virus had already made it to the MCG. It would be interesting to know if they were wearing masks when waiting to go through the gate.
It would be interesting to know if they were wearing masks when waiting to go through the gate.
I don't think it was a requirement at the time.
@serpserpserp: I’m pretty sure if you couldn’t social distance you had to wear a mask. There wasn’t a lot of social distance at the gate.
Mid August. I think it will be extended another week or so.
There wasn’t a lockdown in place in Qld until yesterday afternoon. As for the big hoo-ha about the Qld premier going to Japan, that was just a News Corp / Sky News anti-Labor beat up. They totally ignored the LNP politicians going with her, and the thousands of other businessmen and politicians who’ve been travelling internationally during Covid.
Just ludicrous. They are, really, twisting now that NSW is having problems LNP at both levels.
If they are after zero covid cases lockdowns will be around forever ….
George Christensen.
1 to 2 weeks. It’s only 6 cases. If people now all isolate in lockdown then it should nearly all stay in those households. I’m in Melbourne the capital of lockdowns. Melbourne opened up last week with about 6 new cases. Sydney is a different beast. Nobody seems to have learnt there yet why lockdowns are for the benefit of everyone and to protect the community. Better to be in a lockdown when the virus is spreading to reduce cases and stay safe than the alternative. Lockdowns are for safety. If people follow the rules it should be 2 weeks.It also depends on how quickly QLD can really narrow down the number of people moving around. If not much traffic on the roads at all then it’s a good sign. There’s essential workers and there’s essential workers, for example - Post office = essential. Cafes = not really essential. No need for all cafes to stay open. So it depends on the community response working along with the the government response.
So it depends on the community response working along with the the government response
So in other words keep your fingers crossed. And hope that those doing the wrong thing dont meet up with the virus….
Depends on Qld’ers…. If anything like NSW you may be waiting a while.
SA went hard and fast and most folk did the right thing and we are out - with some strings attached, for now……
Things are going to be a lot less like normal until we all get vaccinated.
The origin of the virus genosequence is hotel quarantine travellers that got released two weeks ago.
Does that not mean virus has been circulating in the community undetected for 2 weeks?
They tell you. They spell it out for you so you can understand it.
Snap, look up the synonyms for "snap".
It’s away now. Buckle up!
One or two weeks, all things going well.
Word on the street is that grandma Jeannette saw a bin chicken sneeze so now she wants another four weeks. Better safe than sorry I guess.
EKKA probably will be cancelled this year… repeat of last year make it a long weekend?
Yeah, I'd prefer that… just make it a 5 day long weekend to encourage more people to stay home. And for those of us who WFH, having a few extra days to rest up would be good.
Yeah I wish but ain't gonna happen. Free food delivered as an incentive from the government would be nice.
They are still setting up the Ekka as of today 1st August. If the Ekka goes ahead with covid, it will bring a whole new meaning to the typical Ekka flu
Yeh let's call it the Ekka variant
The Ekka is famously where you go every year to get a Dagwood Dog and a seasonal flu; it would be a nightmare if they let it run in the current environment. I feel bad for the people who spend months preparing only to have it cancelled, but I think it's the right thing to do.
Yup everyone know it's the place to get sick
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Since lockdown is happening for a while according to consensus maybe you might want to play? What are you doing to keep entertained otherwise?
Can we play pandemic?
Yes it will be setup in the next day or so.
Prior to this lockdown did these areas have an indoor mask mandate especially for public transport and shopping centres ?
Yes, Mask mandate has been in place for weeks.
Great that will help big time :)
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It'll probably be between one or two weeks. 3 days doesnt really achieve much. I always figured the point of lockdown was to control the spread, but you don't really know how aggressive the spread had become because of the incubation period and just people might not even get tested. So at least in Vic, our first lockdown was extended from two weeks, but at the two week point was when we started to see the numbers drop. So to me that made sense, cos we had gotten through the initial spread, and were preventing further spreading at the exact same time. But at the same time i can understand the apprehension to extending it, because business need to survive and people need to eat. Its iffy, but itll likely be one week at the least.
Given the number of exposure sites they are adding every few hours it is gonna be a while:
https://www.qld.gov.au/health/conditions/health-alerts/coron…
Dying isn't the worst outcome, that's why. Chronic lung conditions are common
Literally no age group has a better chance at winning lotto compared to death by covid. What conspiracy nut site are u using for your dodgy math?
If he bends over you can see where the numbers came from!
If the fact that covaids has a 99.9% recovery rate causes you anger instead of relief then maybe you are in a doomsday cult and don't even know it. As for your chances of winning the lotto, well you are right, some vaccinated people have a greater chance of winning the lotto because in some places they are given a free lotto ticket when they submit to the injection!
You need to stop reading conspiracy theory websites or learn some basic math. Even the least affected age group (under 25 is 0.2% death rate), average overall much much higher. Even if you use twisted arse stats to try and make the numbers sound better like using entire US population vs US deaths it is 0.2% death rate. Even if your number was right which it isn't, 1 in a 1000 chance is NOT lotto territory and then you are ignoring all the long term affects of the virus for those that do recover.
@EightImmortals: Just tired of liars like you that will do anything for your anti vaxx crusades to kill people.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_…
@gromit: A quick look tells me those sites are quoting 'all mortality' deaths, in other words, people who died WITH (allegedly) covid as opposed to those who died FROM covid. Was looking at the CDC the other day (I'll see if I can find the link) where they stated that 94% of alleged covid deaths were in people who were over 85 and had 2-3 co-morbidities (cancer, COPD, heart disease, obesity etc), around 60% of them had 7-8 co morbidities. As we learned last year, people are dying from the normal things (mostly) but using the PCR test (which even now the CDC finally admits is useless for this purpose) government is claiming they died FROM covid. Around 400 children have allegedly died from the covid in the last 15 months. According to a recent Nature article almost all (if not all) of them were high risk individuals who had underlying conditions.
I know who the liars are and it's not the people who are speaking out and resisting.
But hey, I wouldn't try to stop anyone from getting the injection if they wanted to get it, your body, your choice as they say. So knock yourself out, but don't think you and your type have the right to force this junk on anyone who chooses not to take it. And never forget what's going on, by the governments latest admission all of these lockdowns and tyranny will continue until they have conned 80% of people into getting injected. It is not about stopping a fake pandemic anymore but 'getting people injected'. And it goes without saying that if you are injected then you have nothing to fear right?
@EightImmortals: You don't die from Covid, Just like you don't die from AIDS or various other virus's, you die from the secondary effects they induce, i.e. heart failure, pneumonia etc etc. hence it gets listed as a Covid death as they likely would not have died without Covid. likewise a large portion of the population has 1 or more co morbidities (depending on country and measurement it ranges in the order of 45-70% of the population). e.g. 2 3rds of Australian population is overweight.
@gromit: Yes, (maybe) IF you are already very sick or very old or both. People who are that close to death can be pushed over by all kinds of things. That's just the way it is and the way it has always been. I'm more concerned about the damage being done to young healthy people who are getting injection TBH honest with you. It's WAY more than what the media are telling you and in another thread I posted links on how to find the TGA adverse events database. Even as underreported as it is , it is still very scary. Or plenty of heartbreaking vids by covid injection injured people trying to get recognition and medical help I can link you to as well.
(Written before you edited your post.)
@EightImmortals: see again with the conspiracy BS. Time to stump up the facts for this world wide conspiracy that all the worlds press, governments, scientists and doctors are all in on to hide the truth about vaccines. Vaccines have issues, but compared to the virus they are nothing, a fit young person has more to fear from Covid than from the vaccine.
@EightImmortals: Please…your spouting non-evidence. "heartbreaking vids by covid injection injured people" is not evidence.
People that have died from the COVID-injection are so low - I believe in the low thousands at most.
People that have died from COVID - in the MILLIONS - this doesnt even factor in those who have long term adverse effects from contracting COVID.
Whilst a comorbidity increases your chances of dying, there are still PLENTY of people without comorbidities who have died (see the 30 something year old in Sydney last week).
Just because they die of secondary pneumonia, doesnt mean COVID wasnt the cause. As gromit has stated, without COVID, they never would have got to that state in the first place, hence it is covid-related.
@dmcneice: That is all pure speculation and…as you yourself said 'belief'.
"I believe in the low thousands at most."
So what does the official data say as opposed to your 'beliefs?
I have already explained above how they concocted the covid death count including the claimed 'millions' that you refer to. One woman in Sydney is not 'plenty' as from what I can tell they are being very cagey about if and when she took the injection. To me it looks like another vaccine death until I hear any proven evidence to the contrary. Like a statement from her doctor for e.g.
""heartbreaking vids by covid injection injured people" is not evidence."
really?
What is it then? My imagination?
Tell your naive theories to this woman.
https://stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/07/23/minnesota-wo…
Tell it to these people: https://www.covidvaccinevictims.com/
Tell it to these nurses who have been damaged for life: https://www.bitchute.com/video/lXklzKsCCwmf/
And the best anyone can respond to cases with is 'correlation doesn't prove causation' or 'those cases are 'rare'' or some such patently insipid programmed nonsense then I really have nothing more to say.
@EightImmortals: Because "correlation doesnt prove causation". If you dont believe this phenomenon - look it up.
Tell your theories to my fellow doctors and nurses in the ICU where we see people dying from this retched disease, whilst you spout your ignorant beliefs.
Tell your theories to the millions whom have died of covid.
""heartbreaking vids by covid injection injured people" is not evidence."
really?
What is it then?
It is evidence that there are risks to interventions. No one has said the vaccines are risk-free. But on a global scale, the amount of lives/morbidity they save VASTLY outweigh the small proportion whom get side effects. The side effects get magnified (all you have to do is look at the media's reporting of every single case of TTS earlier in the year).
"To me it looks like another vaccine death until I hear any proven evidence to the contrary. Like a statement from her doctor for e.g"
Where is your proof of this?
@dmcneice: "Tell your theories to my fellow doctors and nurses in the ICU where we see people dying from this retched disease…"
I would but they're all out making tiktok videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLlftdEwyq4
Yeah I'm calling BS on that one unless you can provide me with all the relevant medical history for each case you are referring to.
"Where is your proof of this?"
At this point it is just logical deduction. If she was unvaccinated the media would have been blaring it all over the headlines.
@EightImmortals: You seriously expect case reports of every single death in the entire world, and every single side effect for each vaccine…..Yeah thats not going to happen. Then when people cite official numbers - you believe its a conspiracy and "made up".
BTW the 38 year old was unvaccinated. The media have been blaring that she "couldnt access a vaccine" because she's in the young group.
Again. Where is your proof this is "another vaccine death" - there is no evidence of this.
@dmcneice: Yes the 'official' numbers are made up, I have addressed this in detail previously as have many MANY other people, some of them quite qualified to do so.
So you have have no proof that she wasn't vaccinated yet berate me for assuming she was? Like I said, I'll accept some kind of official statement from her doctor but main stream media articles are about a credible to me as Pravda. Also, is she died only 10 days after getting diagnosed with the covaids then what treatment was she receiving (or not) from the medical system?
More info here, seems she was killed by government and the medical establishment and 'may' have been vaccinated. Her doctor wanted to treat her when she was diagnosed but was prevented…..hmmmm "Yet her doctor is adamant that had she received treatment at diagnosis, she would be alive today." Full story here: https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/07/chronicle-of-a-covid-de…
@EightImmortals: There's quite a few medicos on Ozb actually.
The trouble is, I'm getting awfully tired of it. I spend a good period of time writing a long response to every little erroneous detail spouted by the tinfoil hat brigade. I go read the studies. I read the CDC, the TGA, the haematology society, the GP society, ATAGI, etc statements. I provide explanations of how pathology tests work. How medical statistics work. But at no point has one of them ever admitted they might be wrong about something. They just move onto the next nonsense. So why waste my time anymore when it accomplishes nothing in the tinfoiled mind?
I wonder if the other docs are feeling similarly tinfoil fatigued?
Because "correlation doesnt prove causation". If you dont believe this phenomenon - look it up
Ironic.
@EightImmortals: You keep demanding official data from everyone else, yet you yourself NEVER provide any data for the crap you are making up and worse you provide links to anti vaxx sites for your alarmist articles. Perhaps if you tried reading something other than anti vaxx and conspiracy sites you might learn something. FYI, you are free to make a choice (though many disagree with that), but it is a truly dog act to try and use fake data and made up stats to convince others to take the same high risk approach you wish to take as some form of self justification.
@gromit: Yeah and you are all talk. As I said before I have previously provided links to official government data sources and I'm sick of reposting the same stuff over and over again, especially when the statist faithful simply dismiss it for no other reason than because it goes against the government narrative. And in a world where most of the relevant information along with literally thousands of qualified doctors and scientists is being banned and censored in a huge way your further bleating about 'hurr dur anti vaxx 'conspiracy' sites' is also meaningless as alternative (i.e. not state controlled propaganda) news sites are where the information is located these days. Try to keep up.. Try addressing the data presented instead.
@EightImmortals: you did no such thing. you have not provided one link from any sort of reputable source around your conspiracy thoery that vaccines are killing far more than the media is claiming, you tried to downplay some of the deaths as comorbidity which as has been explained is a stupid approach as most people have 1 or more comorbidity. I can see your tin foil hat is likely never to be removed, the fact you use such unadulterated trash for your "science" and news is just sad. The conspiracy sites you use have long been conspiracy sites even before covid so you don't have an excuse that you could not have known they were such and should NEVER be used for any medical related information, especially on covid.
Either put up or shut up, seems you are willing to do neither.
PS: would love to address the data presented, however you have not presented any.
@gromit: I'm pretty sure I said that I posted in a 'previous thread', I think it was all merged into the covaids megathread, but yes, I have not bothered to repeat it all here for the reasons given above.
@EightImmortals: All your links are from BS non-news websites with unverifiable "stories" on them. This should tell you something that's obvious to everyone else.
Antivaxxers are trash.
@jorf: The vaccine victims website they linked lists the rapper DMX as a vaccine death. The guy was coked to the eyeballs and had a heart attack. There is no point even expecting a rational thought from someone who presents stuff like that as evidence.
@downbythecreek: yep, he demands proof from everyone else which an abundant amount has been provided, yet he can't be bothered to provide proof for his insane conspiracies but is happy to spend a heap of time linking anti vaxxer and conspiracy sites. says it all really, if he had proof he would be linking it everywhere.
funnily enough I have a friend just like him, nice guy but with the exact same mindset, any piece of info that seems to support his views is presented as fact no matter the source and anything that contradicts his view is a conspiracy or manipulation by the government. You can't really win an argument against that sort of thinking, so really all you can do is try to ensure others are aware of just how out of this world their views are so perhaps they can make informed decisions.
@gromit: Yep:
Provide Proof: "here you go"
"Not from mainstream sources, or official sources, they are all made up"
I mean the woman who died's partner put out a statement saying she was "trying to get vaccinated" - but none were available. I dont know where his information is coming from.
DMX as a vaccine death. The guy was coked to the eyeballs and had a heart attack.
Even more irony.
What I never understand about these points of view is what's your end game? What exactly are you suggesting we do? Just ignore it and hope it goes away? At least be honest with what you're espousing.
The entire world has already moved against whatever it is you're espousing. Today, we're already reaching 50% vaccine coverage amongst OECD nations, we're probably going to reach 80% by the end of the year, if not in a matter of months.
You sound just like the anti-gay marriage, flat earth, conspiracy crowd who have just hitched their identity to some fringe viewpoint and are now inseparable from their past views.
It's no different to the gambler's fallacy - you're just continuing to bet bigger and bigger on a horse that is losing by more and more each day and praying for some miracle where the entire 90% of the world who have been vaccinated drop dead so you get to be king of the world for 4 days. Just give it up my dude.
Jeez, seriously hope this is not what the other 30% of the population is thinking or comparing covid with……
shhhh cant tell the truth like that
Skynews viewer?
I run a pressure washing biz - I'm literally never locked down. Essential af. Come at me.
Been extended till Sunday now
No more Ekka hey
From what I can understand, the wearing of masks in Brisbane haven' prevented the spread…
For the n'th time - Masks DONT prevent the spread, masks REDUCE the spread! Lets get that clear.
I am in QLD and I have been wearing a mask:
- during my workouts everyday for the last month at the gym
- when I go out for a walk with the dog
- when I out and about including grocery shopping!
I can say, atleast for now I haven't gotten the virus because I can only do what I can do in terms of the right thing.
back off the soy protein
Off your high horse princess.
Oh look…. Another anti masker. Funny how a mask hurts all your little egos. Wonder what excuses you all will come up with to not wear a mask that might potentially save someone else's life, if not yours.
Do you watch prepper shows much?
Na! Can't see myself spending millions on a bunker.
I like to live a reasonable life with what I can do to help people around me because my definition of freedom, govt control and conspiracy theories are different to a small majority of anti lockdowners and anti vaxxers :)
@mdavant: Na. But when I ride a motor bike, I certainly do. Coz you know.. Its SENSIBLE.
I also do wear a Seat belt, coz it's SENSIBLE. And I stick to the speed limit, coz… Drum roll again.. Its SENSIBLE.
On the same line, I wear a mask, coz its SENSIBLE.
None of those infringe on my personal rights, freedom… Just saying. I do what I can is right and sensible, based on expert/scientific advice.
@aspirepranesh: So you were wearing a mask when there was close to zero risk of covid in qld and you think that was sensible?
I get wearing one with an outbreak etc but to wear one when there is no circulating covid isas extreme as wearing a helmet on public transport.
@mdavant: Lets start with the facts since you are slow getting the updates.
Maybe if you did follow the guidelines and the news, you wouldnt be asking the question :)
Or maybe it is because you are just one of those people who spreads the crazy anti vaxx/anti mask theories!
@aspirepranesh: Please provide a quote where I said zero risk. Stop strawmanning.
I don't live in Brisbane, NOR did you say YOU live in Brisbane. I have no need to follow the guidelines over the past month.
Stop trying to tar me with an antivaxxer statement.
As a doctor, I am responsible for positively influencing public health around covid vaccines than you ever could.
Don't wear a mask if you don't need to.
@mdavant: Statements like this coming from a doctor!
And to top it off, you question the validity of my "Sensible" response without knowing the guidelines, after I have shared that I live in QLD, which you clearly missed?
Since you said "close to zero risk" doesnt make it "zero risk", I didnt calling you an anti vaxxer, I used the word "Maybe" :)
@aspirepranesh: You are a special case
You did not mention as per guidelines. Quote it for me.
I know you live in qld. You said that. Could be in Rockhampton or Mt ISA.
As for the close to zero risk. I did say that. Thanks for acknowledging your mistake. Well done.
I also didn't say you tarred me with antivaxxer. I said you tried to.
See. You just keep making stuff up
We should learn from the mistakes of NSW and Vic. Police will need to check that people with isolation or quarantine orders to stay home are actually where they need to be.
It is arrogant to assume that our government will get this under control within 3 days if we don't put in steps to stop the rubbish that has happened down south. Their protracted lockdowns are a result of close contacts of infected people defying isolation orders.
We potentially have thousands of close contacts for our contact tracers to work through. Can they contact them all within 3 days. I believe they can. Can we ensure they all stay at home? I doubt it. Doing what has been done in Southern states will result in an extended lockdown with the risk of failure as experienced in NSW.