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Intel i7-10700K, RTX 3060Ti, B560 MB, 500GB NVMe SSD, 2x8GB 3200MHz RAM, 650W Gold PSU $1799 + Postage @ BPC Tech

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HI OZbargainer
I almost Buy this Pc. it has an LHR version GPU.
I was looking for a good deal for myself Without an LHR version GPU.
Let me know if you found some good gaming/mining Pic. (budget2k)

CPU: Intel i7-10700K 8 Core/16 Threads Processor
GPU: RTX3060Ti 8GB Video Card
RAM: 16GB 3200Mhz DDR4
Storage: 500GB NVMe SSD
Motherboard: B560 HD3 LGA 1200 ATX Motherboard
Case: MSI Vampiric 100R Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case
Fans: 6x RGB 120mm Fan included
Power: In Win 650W 650W 80+ Gold ATX Power Supply

OS: Optional
Wifi: Optional


05-Aug-2021 Deal active again. Some aspects of the computer has changed, namely the CPU cooler (was originally a Deepcool cooler, now changed to "Tower Air Cooler with 120mm RGB Fan (brand may vary)", and the motherboard (was MSI B560 Torpedo, now a "B560 HD3 LGA 1200 ATX Motherboard")

The amount of RAM, RAM speed, storage size, storage type, motherboard chipset, GPU, CPU and power supply model is unchanged.

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    Does LHR have any effect on use as a gaming PC? What is the purpose of reducing use of these GPUs for mining?

    I did a quick search on LHR as I hadn't heard the term before and still a little confused.

    Looks like a great deal otherwise.

    Cheers!

    • +13 votes

      LHR halves the mining rate for Ethereum using the main algo or whatever its called. Makes it unattractive for miners.

      Makes no difference in performance for gaming.

      • -1 vote

        Thanks. Why does the manufacturer want to do this? What does the manufacturer not like about mining? They will sell the product regardless. Just curious, as I didn't know manufacturers would want to deter anyone from purchasing (profit wise).

        • +13 votes

          Pressure to do something by gamers who are their main customers.

          • -1 vote

            @FireRunner: Makes sense. Crazy to think we have a shortage of something that's been sought after for so long!

          • +5 votes

            @FireRunner: No miners are their main customers

        • +5 votes

          Because miners will non-stop keep buying GPUs which 1) drives prices up 2) makes gamers angry since they are always OOS

        • +2 votes

          Miners were taking GPU stock with the use of bots. So less went to gamers. The limited GPUs would take longer to recoup the costs.

        • +4 votes

          There is a significant shortage in GPUs as a result of multiple factors (including global chip shortages d.t. pandemic and crypto mining) the large number of GPUs being used by miners has made it difficult for gamers to get graphics cards - which upsets them and makes them think less of nVidia as a brand/company.

          It also has implications on nVidia when it comes to reporting their sales - i.e. if they were to sell all the cards to miners and none to players shows in their company results as a significant decrease of gaming revenue, given the volatile nature of the crypto industry, investors would probably prefer seeing growth/stability in the gaming revenue compared to that going to miners.

        • +18 votes

          A lot of people above said to get more cards in to the hands of gamers which is incorrect. Nvidia waited a very long time to do this even though they proved they could with the 3060 at the beginning of the year.

          They have only just pushed LHR now because they are releasing mining only cards for double the price so if miners want them they will have to pay nvidia loads more money.

        • +4 votes

          They say it's to ensure more cards go to individual gamers ethically, but it's more to reduce future used sales.

          Miners will always sell their cards when they are no longer profitable, it doesn't make sense not to for a business. Gamers are more likely to give theirs away or not go to the effort. It's also more likely that the gamer will use the GPU for much longer than it would be hashrate efficient, meaning the cards would be less competitive against new gens.

        •  

          So they can sell mining cards to miners. The mining cards are sold significantly more than gaming cards with virtually no resale value post mining boom. At least with a graphics card it can be reused and resold for gaming.

          Take a look at the 30Hx for example which is said to be a 1660 equivalent. Mining card $699, 1660 can be had for 500-600 and thats with inflated prices.

          https://www.mwave.com.au/product/gigabyte-nvidia-cmp-30hx-d6...

          Nvidia couldn't care less about gamers, anyone who thinks they do are deluding themselves. Its all for profit.

      •  

        Any recommendations for mining system? I am assuming that’s a whole new argument right?

    • +1 vote

      No issues with gaming. Will possibly impact resell value. It is meant to only affect ethereum mining but that should only be mineable to the beginning of next year.

      •  

        Pretty soon LHR cards are all that will be on the market. A year or 2 down the track this is unlikely to factor into card buying decisions.

      •  

        4 months left you think?

        Debating selling my 3080 from a techfast prebuilt and waiting for a good price on a lhr card.

        •  

          I thought it was meant to have happened by now but have heard proof of stake is sometime in the new year. I think you can keep mining and that would more than make up the difference. I'm getting $4usd per day on a 3070 so about $150aud a month.

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        LONDON hardfork is in like 24hours, that might impact block reward for ETH farmers.

        There might be other algorithms you can use with these LHR card if someone was keen.

    •  

      it also reduces the resale value

  • +4 votes

    This really isn't a bad deal.
    16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 3200
    500GB NVMe
    AND a 80+ Gold PSU.

  •  

    CPU Cooler is basic, and I assume the power supply is somewhat noisy, but overall decent value in the current market.

  •  

    B560 with a K CPU?
    I guess with 650W there's not much room anyway

    •  

      U don't need more than that with a 3060 TI
      I run a 6800xt with a 5600x and 650w PSU without any issue.

  •  

    Is this good for 4K video editing? Currently in the market for one :) TIA

    • +2 votes

      Depending on the footage size you are working with and how you plan to store it, may need more RAM (if you are working on large/multiple video files at once in the editing program) and more storage (SSD +/- Hard Drives to store the footage).

      Both of these could be upgraded later if needed and this system for the price would handle the editing well enough imo.

      •  

        Thanks opticalcog for your response.

      • +1 vote

        I second this, 16GB of RAM should be the minimum imo, and for video editing it's usually a must to have additional RAM.

        •  

          Thanks Zackeroo

    • +2 votes

      Short answer: Yes - as long as you're using proxy video (e.g., 720p) for complex timelines and then encoding in 4K OR you're only making a handful of edits on your timeline.

      Long answer: Based on my experience, it depends on the following (and probably other factors I'm missing):
      -software you're using,
      -bitrate/file size of your 4K video,
      -how many videos you're using in your timeline,
      -amount of cuts/edits/chops/changes you're making to the video.

      I'm using a Ryzen 2700 (8C/16T), 32GB RAM (3200MHz) and for 1080P edits on Davinci Resolve with ~30-50 cuts/edits/changes and multiple videos on the timeline, it gets pretty sluggish, so 4K will get sluggish quicker.

      •  

        Thanks Edgecate for your elaborate response.

  • +1 vote

    will this run BF 2042 in october?

    • +2 votes

      Yes, very well in fact

      •  

        hooray

    •  

      Yea man at epic settings

  • +2 votes

    Title says "2x16GB 3200MHz RAM", description says "16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 3200 RGB Memory" ???

    • That was my mistake. Should be 2x8GB

    •  

      Good catch.

      I don't think having non-RGB RAM will be the make-or-break factor for this build :)

      hopefully

      •  

        None RGB ram will lower the FPS of your gaming.

        •  

          Exactly, and it's the same speeds too so it wouldn't of been much of a difference. Either way it was a good catch tho

  •  

    Anyone know with this its possible to play New world without any issues on 60FPS+?

    • +2 votes

      It should run fine so long as the game does brick the GPU (jk, 3060Ti's aren't affected)

    •  

      i'm still rocking a 1080 and it ran it really well on 1440p 60fps.

    •  

      I averaged over 60fps in New World with my rtx2060 and Ryzen 2600 on high settings. You'll be fine!

    •  

      Thanks guys

  • +2 votes

    anyone know what model 3060 ti?

  •  

    I was looking at this myself. Apparently the 10700k runs really hot and that cooler might not be enough, needs like a 240mm AIO for gaming I feel ?

    10700k performs ahead of 5600X from my research - but at higher power usage and heat generation (has 2 more cores).

    Got in touch with customer service via email to see if I could get an AIO upgrade and the response didn't really make sense.

    Research on case also suggest it has restriction on air flow.

    •  

      Slap a RGB AIO on that thing should be sweet

    •  

      Running 11700 on U12s tower cooler and it runs very cool. So I dont think a 240aio is required. Unless case has dell like airflow.

  • -1 vote

    Can confirm these cpus hot 100 degrees easily. Once it thermal throttles performance plummets. Need liquid cooling and open air case.

    • +1 vote

      wow, i was thinking of pulling the trigger. I guess I won't then.

      • +1 vote

        Not sure I'd trust a random Ozbargain comment yeah, do your own research

      • -1 vote

        He never said which unit of measurement, I'm sure he means Kelvin

    •  

      I run 10700K with Noctua air cooler. Works well.

    •  

      Air can perform well for cooling too, plenty of high performance air coolers around and if you build our your case well you should be fine

  • -1 vote

    5600x beats it in single core performance and runs at 65c-70c under full load so it's better for gaming in most cases. But the i7-10700k would be better for multitasking or if the extra cores are required.

  • +3 votes

    The gpu apocalypse is over so this kind of price is only good if you don't want to build one yourselves

    PCPartPicker Part List

    Type Item Price
    CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $398.00 @ JW Computers
    CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $59.00 @ PC Byte
    Motherboard MSI B550M PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.00 @ Amazon Australia
    Memory Klevv BOLT X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $123.00 @ Scorptec
    Storage Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $62.78 @ JW Computers
    Video Card Inno3D GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Twin X2 Video Card $850.00
    Case MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case $89.00 @ Centre Com
    Power Supply Deepcool 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $96.00 @ Device Deal
    Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
    Total $1776.78
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-04 14:57 AEST+1000
  •  

    How would something like this play Flight Simulator? I'm going through a messy separation and need something fun to do to occupy my time. I used to play flight sim when i was a kid, and would like to get back into it with my kid.

    •  

      better looking for 3060ti+ your Sim game benchmark videos.

    •  

      I have a 3060ti, and this is a great card for Flight Simulator at 1080p on high settings.
      If you don't mind lower frame rates, 1440p on high is still very playable.

      I might get shot down for this, but I like to play at 1080p connected to a 4K Sony TV. Sony (as do a few other decent devices) have great in-built 4k upscaling with no performance hit. I believe Flight Simulator may support DLSS now (which is basically 4k upscaling), so I should try it and compare.

      I used DLSS on Cyberpunk and found it superior to the TV upscaling, but older titles like GTAV that don't support DLSS I have found 1080p to look absolutely brilliant using the TV upscaling. Like when I test with 4k, I really can't tell the difference and not worth the killing performance.

      •  

        Thanks guys,

        I'm happy to go top of the range. I want something that will last me for a while. If you were spending 3k plus, what should I look for? It's been many years since I've been in the gaming PC space.

  •  

    I would suggest getting an Xbox Series X and a subscription to play for free.
    Cheaper and will be consistent frame rates.

    • +4 votes

      huh. didnt know that paying for something made it free

      • +1 vote

        Free house, you just have to buy it.
        Freebies section of ozbargain is about to filled after this revelation

    • +1 vote

      While cheaper (and far better value) both would deliver similar performance (without DLSS), with DLSS the 3060ti offers much better performance,
      Unfortunately, the Series X still takes a quality hit on the textures, shadows and reflections (could be addressed in the future but we can only go on what is out now).

      But again for the value, how could you dismiss the Series X for less than the GPU price alone for slightly less performance and less hassle.

      PS: Lots of talk though of Microsoft working hard to improve the performance of Flight Simulator on older hardware. Optimizations and more processing off to Azure.

  •  

    If it was 11th Gen Intel CPU and actually took full advantage of the B560 board it is in this would be a great buy. Weird they didn't just put in a b460 to match the 10th Gen CPU.

  •  

    Low hash rate cards won't really affect re-sale, people will assume the GPU wasn't used for mining. Many studies have shown GPU's used for mining lower the GPU performance by 10% per year. (Yes there are exceptions where someone undervolts and takes care, but not the bulk of the miners who have been buying all the GPU's)

    Miners want the most profitable cards, typically the latest, but not always. Ethereum moving to POS will do more to lower GPU prices (new and old), so expect any GPU re-sale to be lower in the future LHR or otherwise.

    LHR cards can still be great for mining, plenty of other algorithms where their performance is not lowered.

    TLDR, don't be put-off by LHR if the price and quality of the card is good.

    •  

      Yes there are exceptions where someone undervolts and takes care, but not the bulk of the miners who have been buying all the GPU's

      Every miner will undervolt the card

      •  

        I can tell you the pro's don', they overvolt. As profitability reduces by the day they run them extremely hard. Only a home miner or someone with power concerns.
        But even in Australia miners use cheap power, undervolting is leaving too much money on the table.

  • +1 vote

    Might just get this tbh. You would struggle to build this yourself for the same price given the current market and I'm pretty sure if I wait until prices are more reasonable I'll still be using my current 2014 era rig in 6 months time,

  • +2 votes

    I think it's all pretty decent really, keep in mind.

    Case is meh, it's closed at the front and the MSI upgrade might be worse, definitely don't go for it. Buy with budgeting for a proper case and a couple of case fans in mind.

    Motherboard is a B560 chipset, won't allow you to overclock the 10700K, I don't think that matters too much but you're paying for a K chip and won't get that feature from it, it'll probably still boost ok on it's own.

    Which RTX 3060ti is it? Might be answered here in another comment but can't find it easily on the website, good luck. Picture shows MSI so it's an MSI card, why not say that?

    650W PSU, by a bigger oem like Inwin is more promising than a no name, but I'd still want to know who makes it and how it performs, also it's "only" 650W, would be great to have a 750W option for future upgrades as the next gen of CPUs and GPUs are likely to be in the higher wattages still.

    Which ram? What are the timings? Is it low profile, RGB? What is it? Again picture shows T-Force RGB so why doesn't it just say that?

    500GB NVMe SSD… PCIe Gen 3 or 4? Who makes it? This one isn't pictured (afaict).

    So lots of questions, but if the answers are fair enough, then the value seems, fair enough.

    •  

      I asked them about the 3060ti and they said its either "msi gaming X or gigabyte eagle oc"

    • +1 vote

      I was told the MSI case upgrade has decent airflow. What’s wrong with it?

  •  

    I purchased this PC yesterday. Hoping it’ll come in sometime this month.

  •  

    still waiting for a 3080 build under $2300

  • +1 vote

    Got relisted https://www.bpctech.com.au/kp-msi-dragongaming02-kraken-powe...

    But I can’t see the ram on the new listing?

    •  

      Specifications state:

      16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 3200 RGB Memory

      Not clear on brand/model. Corsair Vengeance if I had to guess.

  •  

    Good deal. Reasonable upgrade prices as well.

  •  

    PayPal isn't an option for payment? Says they have PayPal at the bottom of the page

  •  

    Yea couldn't wait and just wanted a working a PC that can handle some games but mainly premier Pro, photoshop.

    Was hanging for Techfast where who are awesome but couldn't wait any longer.
    I'll report back on findings .

  •  

    Is anyone aware of what the standard shipping times are for desktops that are listed as 'in stock' on BPC?

    •  

      I called them the other day and they said there's a 10 business day turnaround time before they even look at the build.