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Victus by HP Laptop 16, AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (8C/16T), RTX 3060 6GB, FHD 144hz IPS, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD $1655.10 Shipped @ HP Store

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AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800H Octa-core processor
Windows 10 Home 64
16.1" diagonal, FHD (1920 x 1080), 144 Hz, IPS, micro-edge, anti-glare, 250 nits, 45% NTSC
16 GB DDR4-3200 SDRAM (2 x 8 GB)
512 GB PCIe® NVMe™ TLC M.2 SSD
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 (6 GB GDDR6 dedicated)
1 SuperSpeed USB Type-C® 5Gbps signaling rate (DisplayPort™ 1.4, HP Sleep and Charge); 1 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate (HP Sleep and Charge); 2 SuperSpeed USB Type-A 5Gbps signaling rate; 1 HDMI 2.1; 1 RJ-45; 1 AC smart pin; 1 headphone/microphone combo
70Wh battery (Up to 8 hours and 45 minutes)
1 year (1/1/0) limited warranty includes 1 year of parts and labor. No on-site repair. Terms and conditions vary by country. Certain restrictions and exclusions apply.

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  • localhost on 14/08/2021 - 21:42
    +2

    Very nice specs for this price!!!

  • Kelvin on 14/08/2021 - 21:48
    +24

    250nits 45% NTSC.. so garbage screen..

    apparantly the chassis is plastic..

    Good price..

    Best to wait for some proper reviews on type of 3060 installed and temperatures.

    Cant find any proper reviews that are done by any trustworthy sites..

    • plmko on 14/08/2021 - 22:04
      +14

      Not a good price if the screen is garbage.

      • Shammy111 on 14/08/2021 - 23:48

        True, but at least you'd be able to use any monitor you want with it - kinda defeating the purpose of the built in screen tho lol.

        • xrailgun on 15/08/2021 - 14:18

          How many independent external monitors can it link with?

      • TigerWoops on 15/08/2021 - 00:14
        +1

        I don't use notebook screen for gaming. If they use better screen the price will go up which is no point. I just wonder the temperature problem on notebooks and the GPU performance.

    • SaberX on 15/08/2021 - 11:58
      +1

      Newbie here. What's the lowdown on nits and %ntsc? What's considered middle ground vs high spec (and price) end?

      • xrailgun on 15/08/2021 - 14:23
        +3

        250 nits, 45% = garbage. it'd be horrible in most office spaces.
        400 nits, 72% = decent, you'd find this in most premium laptops, sometimes advertised as 100% sRGB
        ??? nits, 95% = incredible, generally only for color-sensitive niche laptops, though, so usually refresh rates stuck at 60hz or so.

        • corksta on 15/08/2021 - 14:39

          So if your gaming in a darker environment this is absolutely not an issue?

          • xrailgun on 15/08/2021 - 18:23
            +2

            @corksta: if you're playing mostly evenly-lit and bright-ish games it'd be fine

            if you play darker games, e.g. stealth games, it'd probably just be all black lol

    • entropysbane on 16/08/2021 - 12:37

      Yes, trying to find a decent 3000 GPU series 15 inch laptop with a good screen is very hard for some reason. Sub 300 nit screens are unacceptable.

  • reactor-au on 14/08/2021 - 21:51
    +5

    Screen would be deal breaker for me

  • inamberclad on 14/08/2021 - 22:09
    +2

    Can someone explain to me the primary purpose of this rig? Gaming? With the 3060? Seems odd imho as the screen is only fhd, albeit 144hz, "250nits only", 45% NTSC. For parts?

    • bdl on 14/08/2021 - 22:11
      +6

      Help HP get rid of crap screens :)

    • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 14/08/2021 - 22:12

      Yes, upper budget gaming.

  • Brrrrt on 14/08/2021 - 22:11
    +22

    Why wtf are people complaining at all about the screen? For ducks sake, find me another 5800h(or intels equv 11800h) laptop with a rtx 3060 at 1.65k?
    Because any rtx 3060 laptop you can at this price range all have a 6 core 5600h/10500h/10750h cpu, and they dont come with a good screen neither.

    With that said, this 3060 card is far from full powered. If it’s the same as the Chinese version-which it should be-its a 95w variant. Of course, it will still beat most if not all 2060 and 2070 cards even given the lower wattage.

      • Nadder on 14/08/2021 - 22:19
        +5

        It's probably good for old people like myself with horrible eyes.

        • techie8055 on 14/08/2021 - 22:21
          -2

          From personal experience if you're sitting close to a laptop screen, I recommend at least 200 ppi. This one comes in at 136.

          • FireRunner on 14/08/2021 - 23:23
            +3

            @techie8055: 200ppi is very high. For example, a 13.3inch display at 1920x1080 is only about 165ppi

      • Brrrrt on 14/08/2021 - 22:25
        +10

        1080p on a 16inch is pretty mediocre

        first of all, this laptop cost only 1.65k with such a spec, i dont see how you want to ask for a good panel at this price point. secondly, while the legion’s and the zephyrus’ 2k/1440p panels are very good. They are far from mainstream, most gaming laptops still ship with 1080p panel, top of the line rog and alienware ships with them. Are they not as as good as the higher resolution? Yes. Are they just somehow mediocre? No! You are hella exaggerating the difference on such a small panel. Plenty of desktop gaming monitors are 1080p. They aren’t just somehow bad monitors because they are 1080p. Heck, most gpus cant work games at high settings on 2k smooth enough.

        • techie8055 on 14/08/2021 - 22:37
          -5

          For workstation use eg. CAD software, it's better to have a higher resolution panel for less jagged edges

          • TigerWoops on 15/08/2021 - 00:19
            +3

            @techie8055: When I do CAD job I never use notebook monitor. It is for use when only traveling.

        • FireRunner on 14/08/2021 - 23:18
          +2

          I agree resolution is fine and probably optimal for gaming.
          Other aspects of the display like brightness and colour accuracy are disappointing though

        • Zackeroo on 14/08/2021 - 23:38
          +5

          Idk why someone downvoted you but I threw you an upvote cause I definitely agree with this. As someone who knows a lot of competitive gamers personally, they would much rather have a 1080P 144Hz panel over 1440P 60Hz.

          144Hz targets competitive gamers who play high-paced games. Some gamers don't give a crap about the bad colour accuracy as they just need a panel which is sharp enough (1080P is good enough on 16") and which has high refresh rate (144Hz is good).

          You make a good point about the commonplace 1080P gaming monitors. This is overlooked quite often as 1080P works just fine even on a 16" laptop. I say this only due to the 144Hz which makes up for the lower resolution.

          Personally, I'm not a gamer, and I see the perspective of you non-gamers out there. I own a Zephyrus and have a beautiful 1440P 60Hz panel - 60Hz is fine for me. I know for a fact that if I played more games, I would be wishing I bought the 1080P 120Hz variant of this laptop if I played more games :)

          • techie8055 on 15/08/2021 - 00:04
            -5

            @Zackeroo: I think it's just just the fact that you're getting essentially the same ppi as a 2011 macbook air. For games it might not make a difference but for most other tasks (except web browsing and other light tasks) I would argue it is noticeable. I think it comes down to what you use it for.

        • RecklessMonkeys on 15/08/2021 - 00:22
          +1

          Yeah, but no sd card reader makes this a really bad bad deal.

        • MuddyClear on 15/08/2021 - 01:35
          -1

          What I don’t get is how you guys use a monitor behind the laptop screen? Surely it would obscure the view.

          • Techhit on 15/08/2021 - 09:08
            +1

            @MuddyClear: Plug in external monitor.
            Set the lid close action under Power Settings to 'do nothing' in Windows 10.
            Close the lid
            Plug in an external USB Keyboard and Mouse or connect to a dock.
            Profit.

        • entropysbane on 16/08/2021 - 12:39

          It isn’t the resolution, often a decent trade off for a gaming laptop in favour of higher refresh and battery life.
          But brightness is too poor even at $1.6k.

      • shabaka on 14/08/2021 - 22:51
        +3

        probably depends on what kind of games you're playing?

        running a 17.3" screen here with 1080p at 144hz and very happy (1660ti)

        no, I can't see individual pixels.

        I would say that 1080p is good for 15.6 or 16" easily

        external 27" and up yeah go 1440p

        hi res panels in gaming laptops are a gimmick unless you are what an eagle or something?

        I had a mobile workstation 15.6" qhd before and guess what it just makes your battery go flat quicker, that's it

        • Doge420 on 15/08/2021 - 06:52

          It's a freaking laptop, literally has higher PPI than a 27" 1440p 240Hz alienware monitor. Only shitty thing about this laptopscreen is the brightness, not because its 1080p..

    • seerious on 14/08/2021 - 22:22
      -2

      Because a gaming laptops display is almost as important as its graphics card.

      $1650 is a lot of money. Spending that much for powerful laptop with a shitty display should be a conscious decision.

      • Brrrrt on 14/08/2021 - 22:30
        +13

        Hard disagree. Specs are still more important than the panel, since you can change the screen with external monitors but not gpu or cpu.

        1.65k is a lot of money, but laptops with good panels cost far more than that. 144hz 72%ntsc gaming monitors deal are regularly <150$. Even you take that into consideration. 1.8k total is a pretty good price for this kind of specs.

        • p1 ama on 15/08/2021 - 01:47
          -4

          Hard disagree. Specs are still more important than the panel, since you can change the screen with external monitors but not gpu or cpu.

          Great - so you buy a machine that has good specs and a shit panel and someone else who values a good panel more can buy something with lesser specs.

          Who knew having choices is a fantastic thing!

          • FabMan on 15/08/2021 - 06:34

            @p1 ama: They literally start with "Hard disagree', as is, this is my opinion. They are giving an alternative to the one telling everyone how shit this deal is.

      • shabaka on 14/08/2021 - 22:56
        +2

        agree. panel is letting this machine down a lot

        yeah out can run external monitor, but that defeats the purpose of having a laptop

    • Ryugen on 14/08/2021 - 22:28
      +11

      Cause for some reason, SCREEEEN is like the mating call of Ozbargain when it comes to cheap gaming laptops. It's like one of those things where hardly anyone will notice a difference until someone goes "err hrrr it's shit cause numbers are low, look at this detailed comparison chart of how the 45% NTSC screen is a slightly different shade to 72% NTSC screen, should have gotten a better screen"

      I get shot in Apex all the same, doesn't matter if they are blue or slightly better looking blue.

      FYI, here are comparison shots:
      https://i.imgur.com/ic8tZfj.jpg
      https://i.imgur.com/kQ5X2Uu.jpg
      https://i.imgur.com/WPG7i2m.jpg
      Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianGaming/comments/i4tck6/is_45_…

      I've got a 250nit / 45% NTSC screen that I game, youtube and read reddit one. It's great and was within my budget, no regerts.

        • Ryugen on 14/08/2021 - 22:44
          +2

          Absolutely would make a difference for CAD, photoshop, paint.net, video editing and all that. But this is advertised as a gaming laptop first and foremost, so shitting on it's value because it doesn't fulfil a role it's not being advertised for is kinda of weird.

          WITH THAT SAID, I don't know any semi serious person that uses a gaming laptop for workstation stuff to not have a dedicated monitor where hz is reduced however has insane colour reproduction / brightness etc etc etc.

          • techie8055 on 14/08/2021 - 22:50
            -6

            @Ryugen: I know a lot of people who use gaming laptops for workstation stuff without an external monitor, myself included. I think most professionals will have a semi-decent monitor at home, but when you're not using a monitor it will make a difference. For example, I use my laptop for Rhino/Revit and when I'm out with clients or at the office, and the 1440p screen makes a significant difference.

            • Ryugen on 14/08/2021 - 23:14
              +1

              @techie8055: Ok great, so for people like you you would want to spend extra for that 1440p / better screen. Say the Acer Nitro 5 15.6" QHD 165Hz 300nits for $2,199 with pretty much the same specs.

              Edit: Oh wait, no no my bad that's most likely got the 45% NTSC defect.

              • techie8055 on 14/08/2021 - 23:37
                -2

                @Ryugen: I think most people would rather pay a bit more/ wait for another deal (such as the OMEN range) for a better screen. I think that most people will also tax-deduct their purchase so a $150-300 price difference for a model with a better screen would be smarter in the long-run.

      • shabaka on 14/08/2021 - 22:58
        +3

        this is not exactly cheap

        you could get a Dell G7 recently for $1600 with full power 2070 and 72% 144hz panel

      • shiny1 on 15/08/2021 - 00:12
        +2

        Thank you! Someone with some sense. It pisses me off to no end that idiots on OzB will flip out at 250nits / lower Adobe RGB % etc, totally forgetting it is actually fine to use.

        • shabaka on 15/08/2021 - 06:28

          chill out, shiny, we'll educate laptop manufacturers to install good screens in ALL their laptops yet!

          and btw it is almost impossible not to notice that color space coverage on your laptop screen sucks: if you have a half decent mobile phone, its screen ccovers more than 100% srgb already!

          mobile phone industry is miles ahead in color space coverage (color accuracy isn't always great but that's another story), and it's about time laptop manufacturers catch up. after all, cost of good lcd panels and crap panels like this one differ by at most $5, so there shouldn't be any reason for HP not to install a good panel here for $5 more

          crap panels exist for one reason only: to make a laptop feel cheap. so that's them flipping the bird in our face and we just smile back and say yeah what do you expect at this price. that's what they want you to think

    • FreddyMerc on 14/08/2021 - 22:41
      +3

      The nitro 5 with the 11800h was $1599 the other day and didn't even get a post.

      • congo on 15/08/2021 - 15:36

        Nitro have poor build quality.

    • p1 ama on 14/08/2021 - 22:43
      +9

      Why wtf are people complaining at all about the screen? For ducks sake, find me another 5800h(or intels equv 11800h) laptop with a rtx 3060 at 1.65k?

      Wouldn't see it as "complaining" about the screen, more so pointing out where the compromises are so that buyers can make a more informed decision. Obviously at $1.65K, there are going to be compromises somewhere, it's good to recognise where those compromises are so that you can buy the machine that makes the most sense for you.

      • stenchlord on 15/08/2021 - 04:06
        +2

        This is exactly it. Pointing out things that others may miss is just doing a service but I think it's also all too common on this site that people just assume a 250nit brightness is not going to be good enough for everyone when it's more that it's likely not good enough for some.

        People are all too quick to point out a brightness issue but then don't even mention how the device performs thermally or in games which in my opinion is a far more important thing in a gaming laptop.

    • OzzyOzbourne on 15/08/2021 - 11:30

      @brrrrt You asked why people are complaining about the screen then followed with a statement about the value of the laptop. They are 2 different things. Nobody said it wasn't reasonable value, they were simply commenting that the screen isn't good. Personally, I think this is useful feedback so I can research more information about the screen and make a more informed decision.

  • hackups on 14/08/2021 - 22:23
    +6

    I was thinking pulling the trigger but:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_la1rFDM2U
    This lad did an amateur video editing but honest review of the his so-called good for nothing laptop

    • AlienC on 15/08/2021 - 07:51

      Yeah this changed my mind from a possibility to a hard nope.

      Thanks really appreciate it and that guy did a really solid in depth review and was very succint and straight to the point.

      Really liked it wish he would do more for other laptops but I don't think he has the budget or is a full on gaming laptop tech reviewer which is a pity tho because that video answered all my questions easily besides actual benchmarks for specific games.

      • hackups on 15/08/2021 - 09:08

        All good! We are on the same page. For $1600~1700 I expect a reasonable decent laptop. If screen/bulid quality doesn't matter, I would go for the ACER NITRO which was 30% cheaper (Binglee sale)

      • imcold on 16/08/2021 - 00:23

        Laptop is so back heavy under fan load the screen wobbles. Not gonna to be easy the fix.

  • paloverde88 on 14/08/2021 - 22:29

    hmm no 4Gee does HP do now pay forever?

  • ifreddo on 14/08/2021 - 22:29
    +2

    So if I'll have this connected to external monitors 95% of the time, it's a good deal right?

    • corksta on 14/08/2021 - 22:35

      I'm interested in response too… as can this replace tower and connect keyboard and mouse

    • plmko on 14/08/2021 - 22:55
      +1

      Unless you're a fly in fly out type worker shouldn't you be buying a desktop instead?

      • Andysjunks on 14/08/2021 - 23:09
        +1

        I think they are like myself looking for an upper budget gaming computer but there isn't any desktop offer around this spec with win10 included at the moment.

        I will also be interested to know if most of my use will be connecting this laptop to external monitor for gaming…

        • techie8055 on 14/08/2021 - 23:14
          +2

          Should be fine for connecting to an external monitor as it has HDMI 2.1 and USB-C, so you're covered. Probably just want to keep in mind that gaming laptops will get loud when the fans ramp up under load

        • sk3iron on 15/08/2021 - 01:48
          +3

          Being a stalwart desktop gamer, it pains me to recommend laptops as a viable alternative but given the current economy of graphics cards, for people that require both a laptop for day work or study and a gaming computer at home, this fills both roles at a price point considerably better than buying an Ultrabook and an over rrp graphics card for a desktop, at least until the prices settle out again. This advice would've been the opposite 2-3 years ago.

          • stenchlord on 15/08/2021 - 04:01
            +3

            @sk3iron: I used to be the same and would never advocate going for a gaming laptop considering a performance upgrade path is pretty much non-existent but I picked one up about a year and a half ago and I got rid of my desktop a couple months later. Having the convenience to just unplug and take it where I want is just such a luxury.

            It spends probably 80% of the time connected to a dock which is connected to a monitor, mouse, keyboard, DAC/AMP, Headset/Speakers/Microphone setup but being able to unplug a few cables and take it to a friends on the weekend for some lannage sessions without needing to worry about syncing any data between devices or having to adjust to different performance in games is great.

            It's not for everyone I'm sure but I'm also sure there are a lot of people out there who would appreciate it.

            • xdigger on 15/08/2021 - 09:16
              +1

              @stenchlord: So much this. Especially for FIFO workers a gaming laptop + home setup is the ideal setup, having all your files in one place and no need to change in gaming settings on a different desktop PC.

      • corksta on 15/08/2021 - 00:25

        Casual gamer.. already have 32inch curved and razor Mechanical kb and mouse. Waiting for graphics cards to go down fo lr my build but might bight with this.

  • OMGJL on 14/08/2021 - 22:36

    what's the weight?

    • RogueLord0 on 14/08/2021 - 22:39
      +4

      the website says 2.46 kg

  • cawfee on 14/08/2021 - 22:52
    +1

    HP Omen for $1500 was a better deal - 5600H / 3060 with better screen

  • utsc on 14/08/2021 - 22:57
    -1

    Does anyone who why HP still uses the smart pin power delivery in 2021 instead of of USB C even for the non power hungry laptops that sells for $1500 plus. Even the cheaper Lenovo's selling for 1/2 the price comes with USB C power delivery

  • muzzakus on 14/08/2021 - 23:02
    +1

    The dropping of maxq and maxp labelling means the GPU credentials in a laptop are a complete crapshoot these days

  • imcold on 15/08/2021 - 00:18
    +2

    Screen is no big deal if you intend to use an external monitor. Don't pay for more expensive screen and get better fps to external monitor.

  • raptormesh on 15/08/2021 - 00:40
    +2

    Ya'll arguing about the monitor but what's the thermals like? Spec don't mean crap if the heat design is so bad you can barely make use of it.

    • stenchlord on 15/08/2021 - 03:52
      +1

      When I bought my laptop, the one complaint most people gave was it getting super hot when playing games but I have no idea what conditions people are testing under cause all I've done is a minor undervolt on the CPU and I can play games for hours without issues. The fans definitely ramp up but I'm usually wearing headphones so don't hear it over the game sounds.

      I was playing Forza Horizon 4 for like 2-3 hours and my CPU/GPU maxed out at 77/71 degrees with ambient temps last night being on the cooler side (around 18-20C in my apartment) and game ran great at a stable 100-120fps @ 1080p/Dynamic Scaling with Ultra preset.

      I'm running an ASUS Zephyrus M GU502GW - i7 9750H, 32GB 2666MHz DDR4, 8GB RTX-2070, WD Black SN750 500GB SSD (System), Intel 660P 1TB SSD (Games).

      The reviews around the Ryzen chips and the RTX 30 series has been they're more efficient, so I wouldn't expect them to have many issues if my system can run everything fine.

      • xdigger on 15/08/2021 - 09:17

        Good to know about the lower temps on Ryzen chips and the RTX 30 series

      • crentist on 15/08/2021 - 11:01

        I have the AMD version of that laptop. It's good, but there is a weird throttling issue that basically prevents gaming unless you install something that kinda undervolts it. Basically the CPU snap throttles to 400mhz for a second when it's hot, so everything stutters.

        But the weirdest thing is that the vents right above the CPU and gpu fans were covered up. With a piece of plastic just stuck over the grill. Apparently similar gimping of only AMD thermals is common across a few laptops at the time.

        Anyway with all that it's mostly good now, just a bit hard to fully trust it.

      • corksta on 15/08/2021 - 14:59

        What dock you using with your laptop

        • stenchlord on 15/08/2021 - 15:39

          I have a Wavlink USB 3.0 one.
          Currently only using it for USB and Ethernet ports.
          I still plug into my laptop - Power, HDMI and USB (for dock).
          Can purchase them off Amazon for like $150ish.

          I do plan on adding another monitor to my setup but since it won't be used for gaming (likely just chat/discord, browsing and video playback) it can just be connected to my dock.

  • stenchlord on 15/08/2021 - 03:34
    +3

    I think this is a pretty awesome deal. If I didn't already have a laptop with similar specs I'd have jumped on it.

    Performance would be a little better than my 1.5 year old ASUS Zephyrus M (i7 9750H/32GB/2070MQ) that I paid close to $2800AUD.

    I would say 70-80% of the time it's connected to a dock so I can use it as a normal desktop and then (at least before lockdown) the remaining 20% when I'd take it to a mates on weekends for some lanning sessions. Has served me really well and while I'm always upgrading my desktop setup, having the ability to unplug and just take it on the go with me is super convenient.

    This is what my setup looks like…

    https://i.imgur.com/47d6h9J.jpg

  • gviddy on 15/08/2021 - 05:42

    what is hashrate on this 3060 ??

  • Wampus on 15/08/2021 - 12:47

    The reason why we're seeing so many gaming laptops let down by average screens is that the screens themselves are the pain point for suppliers. So they can either sit and wait for 60 days for decent screens, or start cranking out sales this way.

    • DASHCAM NOW DUDE on 15/08/2021 - 20:29
      +2

      Budget laptops use budget screens. While $1600 is a lot of money, it's not in terms of gaming laptops. If you want a good screen, you can pay more for one.

    • bazingaa on 17/08/2021 - 14:18

      you can easily swap a screen but not a GPU

      • corksta on 17/08/2021 - 15:19

        Silly question but is upgrading laptop screen my swapping it out a "thing" that's done by gamers

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