R U OK OzBargainers? (2021)

R U OK?

R U OK? Day is an annual day in September (today, 9/9) dedicated to remind people to ask family, friends and colleagues the question, "R U OK?", in a meaningful way, because connecting regularly and meaningfully is one thing everyone can do to make a difference and even save lives.

We do this every year and have raised $19007 towards their cause. The last 2 years have been a struggle for many of us. I'm sure I am not alone in having numerous conversations over the past few months checking on the well-being of others (and on myself) in a meaningful way.


Hot Tip: Medicare provides free (or subsidised) sessions with a psychologist after a referral from a GP. It's free/cheap so you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Most mental health issues are very much treatable with professional help. Trouble is that most of us are too scared, embarrassed, or lack self awareness to seek professional help. If you have a broken foot, most people will have no hesitation in seeking a doctor because we know it can be fixed but for mental health issues (which can be just as well treated) we quietly carry on even though the pain and harm may be 1000 times worse. (credit: Bluberry)


The comments and PMs we received last year are part of why we are proud to support R U OK? Day by changing our colours and promoting their cause.

One of the biggest challenges to OzBargain and other online social media sites (e.g. Instagram, Twitter) is promoting an environment where everyone feels comfortable commenting and discussing issues (or deals). We should all recognise that our comments have consequences both positive and negative. People don't participate on a discussion site to be attacked or bullied. While some people may say 'suck it up' and that people should not be so sensitive, we should be aware that we don't truly know the people behind these accounts. Some are young, some may come to here to escape a tough reality, be mentally unbalanced, or they possibly could have thick skin. We just don't know.

On the flip side, a simple gesture such as thanking someone or sending a friendly PM can go a long way. We made a post about contributing to a more positive OzBargain environment and we've had some great results changing some users behaviour by thinking about the impacts of their words.


Over the years of running this initiative on OzBargain (and offline) we've also received some comments making jokes about RUOK? Day. While those people may be OK, many times they are not both in real life and on OzBargain. Keep asking, be meaningful in the way you have your conversation and don't ask just today but any day.

We have forums where you can discuss relationships or anything else off-topic. Also, if you see any comments where you think the person may be struggling, please report to us and we'll get in touch.

You can also feel free to chat with us in the private Talk with a Moderator forum if you have any OzBargain related issues. Or send me a PM about whatever you want (except moderation issues). Please see our Mental Health Page if you need to speak to someone including live chat.

For confidential advice and support call a crisis support line – such as Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Suicide Call Back Service on 1300 659 467.

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ASK R U OK?
  • Be relaxed, friendly and concerned in your approach.
  • Help them open up by asking questions like "How are you going?" or "What’s been happening?"
  • Mention specific things that have made you concerned for them, like "You seem less chatty than usual. How are you going?"

IF

  • If they don’t want to talk, don’t criticise them.
  • Tell them you’re still concerned about changes in their behaviour and you care about them.
  • Avoid a confrontation.
  • You could say: “Please call me if you ever want to chat” or “Is there someone else you’d rather talk to?”
LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND
  • Take what they say seriously and don't interrupt or rush the conversation.
  • Don’t judge their experiences or reactions but acknowledge that things seem tough for them.
  • If they need time to think, sit patiently with the silence.
  • Encourage them to explain: "How are you feeling about that?" or "How long have you felt that way?"
  • Show that you've listened by repeating back what you’ve heard (in your own words) and ask if you have understood them properly.
ENCOURAGE ACTION
  • Ask: “What have you done in the past to manage similar situations?”
  • Ask: “How would you like me to support you?"
  • Ask: “What’s something you can do for yourself right now? Something that’s enjoyable or relaxing?”
  • You could say: "When I was going through a difficult time, I tried this… You might find it useful too."
  • If they've been feeling really down for more than 2 weeks, encourage them to see a health professional. You could say, "It might be useful to link in with someone who can support you. I'm happy to assist you to find the right person to talk to.”
  • Be positive about the role of professionals in getting through tough times.
IF THEY NEED EXPERT HELP
  • Some conversations are too big for family and friends to take on alone. If someone’s been really low for more than 2 weeks - or is at risk - please contact a professional as soon as you can.
CHECK IN
  • Pop a reminder in your diary to call them in a couple of weeks. If they're really struggling, follow up with them sooner.
  • You could say: "I've been thinking of you and wanted to know how you've been going since we last chatted."
  • Ask if they've found a better way to manage the situation. If they haven't done anything, don't judge them. They might just need someone to listen to them for the moment.
  • Stay in touch and be there for them. Genuine care and concern can make a real difference.

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Comments

  • +19

    Despite the lockdown, I'm OK, thanks for asking.

    How is everybody else, R U OK? 🙏

    • +33

      R U OK?

      NO. It's past 9pm and I have to wait until 5am to take my bin out !!!

    • I'm not OK. My grandparents came to this country to escape totalitarianism, now I'm considering returning for the same reason.

      • +30

        You aren't experiencing anything like totalitarianism.

        • +7

          Police diddling kids at music festivals with no public resistance. Politicians engaging terror units on public political criticizers/comedians.
          NSW alone seems to be certainly making good progress in getting there.

        • +5

          What is it then? Taking away everyone's rights, which everyone had beforehand, and only giving them back under threat of being excluded from society and discriminated against if you don't. I didn't agree to lockdowns, I didn't agree to restrictions, I didn't agree to any of this, but I have to get a vaccine under duress or I will continue to be kept under lockdown long after most people are allowed outside? That's textbook coercion and extortion.

        • +4

          I think one of the things to remember is to not minimise or compare someones feelings. Feeling something is a fact, whether or not we believe it, that person FEELS like that.

      • +17

        My grandparents came to this country to escape totalitarianism, now I'm considering returning for the same reason.

        Most people don't seem to see it because they've never had to fight for their freedom. It was handed to them on a plate and they treat is as some disposable thing of little value. They will learn the hard way, just like too many generations before them.
        "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

        • +4

          💯

        • +1

          Username checks out.

        • +3

          Let it rip, am I right boys? Who cares how many will die so long as you can get your haircuts!

          • -5

            @firecaller: Well perhaps. An issue is with the vaccine, you now need a 3rd booster shot and the problem is that close to 70% of the Israelis' in ICU right now have had two injections, some three. Apparently Israel is saying if you have had two shots, (and no Booster) they will consider you unvaccinated!

            It seems natural immunity is 13x more resistant than taking the vaccine.

            So rather than all the lockdowns (even though there has never been an outside transmission), rather people get it off their relatives, partners and children (if your child gets it, there is a 50% chance you will get it).,l we work out practical examples that actually are effective such as temperature checks.

            I mean part of the problem is the Government has botched it many times- for example in Victoria the people who were washing infected sheets, etc had to go on strike just to get PPE, and lets not mention security guards again. You also had weird examples of far out country towns being in full lockdown without recording a single case. Well let a whole lot of foreign students in just before shutting down airports (basically forced to because USA did it and the Government didn't want to look like morons).

            And finally we have tracking apps now, but no one is doing temperature checks before you enter stores, workplaces, etc (well perhaps some are). We had someone who was sick and working in an aged care facility passing it on to the Elderly and a simple temperature check could of prevented that.

            Sweden didn't have lockdowns, and not even mask mandate!
            But screwed up because they didn't protect their old people well enough (neither did NY, which was also very pro COVID restrictions).

            So….

            perhaps inoculate the elderly (3 injections), give everyone just 1 injection (Moderna, which seems to be effective in preventing hospitalization as two (96%)) and let it rip…..
            (It also interesting to note the EU covid passport app shows room for 8 injections…. is it going to become like the yearly flu injection?).

            Finally there is Zero chance we can put the genie back into the bottle either through lockdowns or injections. Humans have never, ever successful stopped a respiratory viruses, as they mutate too quickly (there is a new strain in India now).

            • +1

              @Other: "is it going to become like the yearly flu injection?"

              From what we can currently tell, yes. Covid is here to stay and hopefully we can get to a point where simple yearly boosters can cover us.

              "70% of the Israelis' in ICU right now have had two injections"

              True, but they would be much, much worse off without those vaccinations.

              From the ABC - https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2021-09-09/covid-19-israe…

              When US researchers dug into the Israeli data and broke it up according to age groups, they found the vaccine was more than 90 per cent effective at preventing severe disease in people under 50, and more than 85 per cent effective in those over 50.

              "The benefit of vaccination is that it reduces your chance of hospitalisation and death by about 90 per cent, but it's not 100 per cent," Professor Lewin said.

              • -1

                @firecaller:

                and hopefully we can get to a point where simple yearly boosters can cover us.

                Hope is not a strategy…

                True, but they would be much, much worse off without those vaccinations.

                It's not that simple…

                • +1

                  @1st-Amendment: Nice quippy one liners that provide no depth to your argument

                  • @firecaller:

                    Nice quippy one liners that provide no depth to your argument

                    Heh, ironic…

                    • +1

                      @1st-Amendment: Classic anti-vaxxer, challenged with real facts responds like a child

                      • @firecaller:

                        Classic anti-vaxxer,

                        Lol, when you have no argument, just make one up, then argue against that…

            • @Other: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-isra…

              @Ihatepeople who uso data without being able to interpret

              The basic and obvious concept is… If 80% of population are vaccinated, you will see a big number of vaccinated individuals in hospital. If 100% of population was vaccinated, everyone in hospital would be vaccinated.

              I'm a bit tired of having to convince people. Everyone should be able to make choices with the information that they have.

          • +3

            @firecaller:

            Who cares how many will die so long as you can get your haircuts!

            Who cares how many people lose their livelihoods and sanity as long as we are seen to be doing something that follows no logic…

      • -4

        for the same reason

        You may like to be mindful with your consideration, as Correlation is not causation.

      • Starts somewhere… being told you will be terminated from your job for not receiving the CovID jab, after 20yrs of service, is a start of a slippery slope.. WA government employee.. for a virus that has killed in Australia not even half of what the influenza does every year..
        so yeah, GG our rights.. what happened to my body my choice movement hey?

        • People no longer want to apply "my body, my choice" and the basic concepts freedom of movement in Australia.

          I'm against forcing people to get the vaccine but I understand why they want to do that in some areas (health, age care).

          I'm against forcing people to stay at home. I am vaccinated and I want to have my vaccinated friends over. I want to be able to go to restaurant and do some shopping. I'm sick of "walks in the park" as the only option for social contact.

          What happened with go hard and go fast snap never-ending lockdown?

  • +53

    By the way, that feeling you are having with the pandemic (and moreso the lockdowns) that's bleh… Not quite depression, not burnout. It's called languishing.

    Languishing is a sense of stagnation and emptiness. It feels as if you’re muddling through your days, looking at your life through a foggy windshield. And it might be the dominant emotion of 2021.

    Video Explainer
    New York Times

    It's OK to feel it and it's OK to talk about it.

    • Statement of the day

    • We have the diagnosis, now let's treat!

  • +11

    Hope everyone's doing OK during these times.

    Feel free to ever PM me if you want to chat :)

    Friendly Neighbourhood OzBargain Cameraman'

    • +3

      Aww soo sweet! ☺️

  • +9

    Love the support by the OzBargain mods and community. Thanks team!

  • First in to say about the guys that ruin this as they did last year and the year before….

    • +19

      In my experience, many who make jokes or on the flip side are angry may be struggling the worst on the inside.

      • I just ended up burying stuff last year, and I'm sure many others did too.

      • +3

        It is a good way to cope, to see lighter side of things. A better way is to talk to someone about it.

  • +5

    Hope everyone's doing well.

    Lockdown was a bit of a novelty to me last year, got through it fine.

    This year is a bit different, not quite depressed, not quite burnt out.. just like OP said (TIL).. languishing. Stay safe and take care of your mental health, reach out to your friends and family if you're not coping too well.

    • +1

      Me too, exactly this!

    • +1

      I'm with you on this one, even more difficult when all family are overseas

  • +3

    I'm in Sydney currently WFH and enjoying it. Last year I didn't get a chance to WFH because our prick boss forced us to come into the office.

    So I'm glad I got a 2nd opportunity to wfh this year and have a chance to truly experience it like everyone did last year.

    • just watch out for that covid fat

      • +1

        True, however my laziness is also my advantage. I'm too lazy to go out and buy food therefore I normally eat 1 meal a day or sometimes two.

  • +5

    I was wondering why Ozbargain turned gold

  • +6

    Still as cynical about this day as I was last year but overall, a definite improvement. Not there yet, but at least I feel I'm going in the right direction now.

    Lockdown has again hampered plans and moods but I've got ample food, money, entertainment and an easy going landlord. Things could be a lot worse.

    • +2

      Hey mate, sorry to hear you feel this way. I can understand why some people might see it the way you do.
      For me, I'd agree and say that we shuld be looking out for each other all times, however today just acts as a reminder for people who might not reach out normally. If that helps people to thinking about reaching out more often, then thats a win I think!

      Either way, hope you're doing ok

    • +2

      I was really cynical too in previous years but I feel this opens peoples mind up to spectrum of suffering that others experience (its small gain but i feel its real).

      Still hate the "fakeness" of it but I am someone who absolutely hates any small talk.

  • +9

    ~31 years old and still virgin, anyone?

    • +14

      You're on your own there bud. R U Ok though? Think of the positives, one day you may be able to sell that virginity for $$$.

    • +2

      How important is this to you?

      Are you seeking to have sex or to have a romantic relationship?

    • +5

      Is that you or are you looking for one?

      At least you are prepared after your last post

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/602582

    • +2

      Your socks must stand on their own.

      • +1

        Not helping in a thread like this man

    • +6

      Ever heard of loveless and sexless marriage? Just few week ago, maybe the lockdown has impacted his life, my mate just open up to us, and I was shocked by listening to his story and found that this kind of living hell is actually not that far away.

      And I am lucky didn't fall to that pit but there is not much I can do, as a friend. So just don't rush your life, mate, find the one that you truly and be 100% that you want to spend the rest of your life with.

      I don't think my friend will or can get out of sht easily, not sure if he will end up better or worse…mostly worse I think, basically his marriage is like a living hell that trapped him and everyone that in his family.

      So you can worry about it, but just don't rush your life decision.

    • +3

      Don’t worry sex is pretty overrated, especially when you can’t be bothered but the partner wants it.

    • Not an issue. Get on the no fap bandwagon, if you're not already on!

      • No fap sounds like a good way to get prostate cancer (assuming no sex)

      • +2

        No encouraging people to get into cults

    • If you're struggling with dating, work on yourself, take up a new hobby, go out more etc. My guideline for being healthy socially is to never let a single thing define you.

      I do Latin dance, I work on my house, I work on my car alot, Gym twice a week, I love Movies & Anime, I love birds. Even with all of this it still took me 26 years to get a girlfriend.

      Finding someone to date (Or bone) is just a dice roll and even if all your things are in check, sometimes you're just unlucky. But you have to keep rolling the dice to be in the game at all.

      Consider E-Harmony also, deleted it after 2 weeks and got more out of the $150 than 8 years of tinder.

    • Maybe it's time to sudo su and get that root access, if you know what I mean 😏

  • +3

    No, not really. Hate myself and wish I could die. But thanks for asking :)

    • +7

      That must feel awful. I hope your experiences improve soon. I would talk to a GP about a referral to a specialist if I felt like this.

      • +1

        Thanks. I got anti deps which makes me keep surviving until the inevitable.

        • +6

          It doesn't have to be inevitable. ADs might be only a part of what works for you. Have you looked at other options? A decent GP can really help on this front by referring you to an appropriate service.

          CBT on https://moodgym.com.au helped me when I was at my lowest. It was developed at ANU and has a good reputation.

          • +1

            @banana365: Wow I just learned CBT has another meaning!

            Thanks though.

            • +1

              @DrScavenger: I'm a big believer in CBT, whether formally or informally. When you feel uncomfortable, question it and push the discomfort a little. I'm also a believer in changing the environment when you feel like crap. Go out, do something different that requires you to concentrate, do something new that'll make you feel like you had a win or just distract you with a short term positive experience.

    • +2

      Hey mate, hang in there. Life is not always good, but the bad can feel heavy, so much so, that it doesn't seem worth it. I know one thing though, you have a life, that's a miracle. We don't know what's on the other side. So try to enjoy this life as much as you can, with as much shit that's in it.

      • Thanks for your good wishes mate. I don't really see me having life as a miracle though. More like a coincidence at best. I wasn't asked to be born and if I was you can be sure I would have declined :P

        There is something that's going to happen, if it happens I might give this life a chance, if it doesn't I really dont care about living further.

    • Have you tried meditation? It helped me greatly through a period of terrible anxiety. Still suffer from it some times, but meditation and a very small dosage of medication keeps it in check. I hope you feel better man.

  • +2

    I saw the yellow banner and I thought "oh ma gawd it has been an entire year already". Big oof.

  • +3

    We're about to become lockdown world record holders here in Melbourne and every day feels like groundhog day.

    Groundhog says - long winter, outlook is bleak.

  • +4

    Lifeline I believe also has a text message service and an online chat service from 12pm to 2am (AEST).

    https://www.lifeline.org.au/crisis-chat/
    https://www.lifeline.org.au/crisis-text/

  • +17

    No, I am not.
    But I remain confident that one day I will be.

    • That in itself is a great thing. The confidence that things will improve. Hope is important. Keep on keeping on, we're all on this page for a reason :)

  • +6

    I'm doing ok, sad I can't see my family for a little while.

    In talking about the "positive" environment of OzBargain, I felt that the other day when I got my first "popular deal" badge, and comments that said "good job OP" that made me feel good.

  • +4

    R U ok is nice, how about ozbargain change the rule and stop users from negging others for a day or even eliminate that function, negging deal is ok, not negging a person is not ok.

    • +4

      not negging a person is not ok

      Double negative. Also it's negging a comment not a person.

      • -1

        thanks, should be negging a comment from person is not ok.

        • +4

          I disagree, negging can be useful on comments that don't belong i.e. completely irrelevant, poor taste, contains misinformation, etc.
          People neg the comment not the commenter so it shouldn't be taken too personally

          • +1

            @FireRunner: I also disagree, the person should be told why someone disagree. As you listed above, there are many reasons why a comment is not liked but wouldn't it better if the person is told the reason. See we are having a discussion about this matter. Had I been negged, that could be the end of the conversation and I would not have found out your side of story. If a comment is offensive or inappropriate, yes, tell mod to remove it.

            • +6

              @htc: Change your prospective on negative votes on comments. To me if I've been downvoted then I know I've made someone really really mad. It's a good feeling.

              • +2

                @Clear: A lot of time, it was not intentional to make people mad, I don't mind getting neg if I was intent on making people mad but a lot of time it wasn't intentional and I am not happy getting neg on comments where I was trying to be helpful. You will often find quite a few members complaining why am I getting neg, people do care what other people's opinion. It does take time to desensitize yourself. I just felt to encourage more people to contribute to forum or even to speak out, getting rid of the neg is the first step. I do agree try to change perspective about neg but it takes time to change. BTW, great job in posting a lot of deal, I do like getting stuff from Aliexpress when the price is lower than ebay. I got some item recently from Aliexpress, I was surprised it took less than a month.

              • +3

                @Clear: Red is the colour of love. ❤️

            • @htc: Yes, I agree that conversation is more important but you don't need twenty people commenting the same thing. If someone has covered the reason then a simple neg to show your disapproval is appropriate. And occasionally a comment is just bad that it doesn't need an explanation.
              Taking a neg isn't enjoyable but when is criticism enjoyable? The commenter should maybe re-evaluate what they've said.

              • -1

                @FireRunner: I got a neg a few days ago for saying thanks op. Not sure why. Yes agree about twenty people commenting the same thing, often I find a lot of comments repeat anyway in a forum, just shows a of people were thinking about the same thing and sometimes it is unavoidable because it could be one person posted the comment a few seconds before another person. In a perfect world, yes, comments in a forum should be unique but I think it is hard to achieve. When a forum lasted 10 pages, hard to go through each page, I don't mind reading an important comment more than once as sometime it can be missed amongst all the other comment. We are on the same page about taking a neg is not enjoyable. Criticism is not enjoyable at least I know why, neg can mean many things. If I can find out why my comment is bad instead of neg, I can stop making certain comment, otherwise I will take it as let's not make a comment at all which is what we try to avoid on are you ok day, is to express yourself.

                • +2

                  @htc: Negs are cleaner for showing a general consensus on a comment. We'd get far more repeated comments bunched up to convey a similar consensus.
                  As for a single random negs, probably best to ignore. If there's no comment and nothing is obviously bad then you can safely assume it was a vote misclick or someone being stupid.

                  • +2

                    @FireRunner: That explains it. I guess there is no perfect system, probably this is the best way so far. Although a better way is to also show the list of people who negged.

          • +1

            @FireRunner: Unfortunately it can be taken personally, don't think majority of people don't enjoy getting neg. Although I would be very interested if a poll is taken and show whether the majority of members don't take neg personally.

    • +3

      One thing we all can do (if we want to) is be more generous with upvotes.

      If negs make some people sad upvotes might make them happy!

      • Agreed. We can sometimes be quick to find fault but much slower to acknowledge a positive contribution.

    • -2

      Who gives a toss about negs.

  • A forum where people can expressed themselves without being judged by others.

  • +5

    I am not ok. I check ozb 1000 times a day and wait for any cracking deal.

    • +1

      Fomo

  • +2

    I am not okay due to politicised chronic disease and medical negligence. Depressed. horrified by Australian doctors.
    hope they go to hell one day

    • +5

      I agree some Australian doctors should go to hell, I went to the doctors complaining about tinnitus and Hyperacusis, some told me that Tinnitus is no big deal, that I was being oversensitive and that to man.

      Quoting one doctor:
      "Why are you complaining?

      There must be something wrong with you.

      One of my other patients has had it for years and never complains".

      Hell, I'm not joking, when I say that those were actually the nice doctors.

      • Doctors from Australia need more training and more practices I believe. Although living in one the best environment and educations, they're quite bad and lack of knowledge and sympathy.

      • +1

        That’s gaslighting and is not ok. It should be reported.

        Get the f*** away from that doctor and never go back.

        • Granted, while my comment shows that some doctors need to improve their bed side manners, what he said is pretty tame when compared to the actions of some of my family members.

  • Not OK, for some reason my tinnitus got worse since three weeks ago literally out of nowhere and ENT said there's nothing they can do and this is slowly driving me insane

    That being said, R U folks OK yourself?

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