R U OK OzBargainers? (2021)

R U OK?

R U OK? Day is an annual day in September (today, 9/9) dedicated to remind people to ask family, friends and colleagues the question, "R U OK?", in a meaningful way, because connecting regularly and meaningfully is one thing everyone can do to make a difference and even save lives.

We do this every year and have raised $19007 towards their cause. The last 2 years have been a struggle for many of us. I'm sure I am not alone in having numerous conversations over the past few months checking on the well-being of others (and on myself) in a meaningful way.


Hot Tip: Medicare provides free (or subsidised) sessions with a psychologist after a referral from a GP. It's free/cheap so you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Most mental health issues are very much treatable with professional help. Trouble is that most of us are too scared, embarrassed, or lack self awareness to seek professional help. If you have a broken foot, most people will have no hesitation in seeking a doctor because we know it can be fixed but for mental health issues (which can be just as well treated) we quietly carry on even though the pain and harm may be 1000 times worse. (credit: Bluberry)


The comments and PMs we received last year are part of why we are proud to support R U OK? Day by changing our colours and promoting their cause.

One of the biggest challenges to OzBargain and other online social media sites (e.g. Instagram, Twitter) is promoting an environment where everyone feels comfortable commenting and discussing issues (or deals). We should all recognise that our comments have consequences both positive and negative. People don't participate on a discussion site to be attacked or bullied. While some people may say 'suck it up' and that people should not be so sensitive, we should be aware that we don't truly know the people behind these accounts. Some are young, some may come to here to escape a tough reality, be mentally unbalanced, or they possibly could have thick skin. We just don't know.

On the flip side, a simple gesture such as thanking someone or sending a friendly PM can go a long way. We made a post about contributing to a more positive OzBargain environment and we've had some great results changing some users behaviour by thinking about the impacts of their words.


Over the years of running this initiative on OzBargain (and offline) we've also received some comments making jokes about RUOK? Day. While those people may be OK, many times they are not both in real life and on OzBargain. Keep asking, be meaningful in the way you have your conversation and don't ask just today but any day.

We have forums where you can discuss relationships or anything else off-topic. Also, if you see any comments where you think the person may be struggling, please report to us and we'll get in touch.

You can also feel free to chat with us in the private Talk with a Moderator forum if you have any OzBargain related issues. Or send me a PM about whatever you want (except moderation issues). Please see our Mental Health Page if you need to speak to someone including live chat.

For confidential advice and support call a crisis support line – such as Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Suicide Call Back Service on 1300 659 467.

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ASK R U OK?
  • Be relaxed, friendly and concerned in your approach.
  • Help them open up by asking questions like "How are you going?" or "What’s been happening?"
  • Mention specific things that have made you concerned for them, like "You seem less chatty than usual. How are you going?"

IF

  • If they don’t want to talk, don’t criticise them.
  • Tell them you’re still concerned about changes in their behaviour and you care about them.
  • Avoid a confrontation.
  • You could say: “Please call me if you ever want to chat” or “Is there someone else you’d rather talk to?”
LISTEN WITH AN OPEN MIND
  • Take what they say seriously and don't interrupt or rush the conversation.
  • Don’t judge their experiences or reactions but acknowledge that things seem tough for them.
  • If they need time to think, sit patiently with the silence.
  • Encourage them to explain: "How are you feeling about that?" or "How long have you felt that way?"
  • Show that you've listened by repeating back what you’ve heard (in your own words) and ask if you have understood them properly.
ENCOURAGE ACTION
  • Ask: “What have you done in the past to manage similar situations?”
  • Ask: “How would you like me to support you?"
  • Ask: “What’s something you can do for yourself right now? Something that’s enjoyable or relaxing?”
  • You could say: "When I was going through a difficult time, I tried this… You might find it useful too."
  • If they've been feeling really down for more than 2 weeks, encourage them to see a health professional. You could say, "It might be useful to link in with someone who can support you. I'm happy to assist you to find the right person to talk to.”
  • Be positive about the role of professionals in getting through tough times.
IF THEY NEED EXPERT HELP
  • Some conversations are too big for family and friends to take on alone. If someone’s been really low for more than 2 weeks - or is at risk - please contact a professional as soon as you can.
CHECK IN
  • Pop a reminder in your diary to call them in a couple of weeks. If they're really struggling, follow up with them sooner.
  • You could say: "I've been thinking of you and wanted to know how you've been going since we last chatted."
  • Ask if they've found a better way to manage the situation. If they haven't done anything, don't judge them. They might just need someone to listen to them for the moment.
  • Stay in touch and be there for them. Genuine care and concern can make a real difference.

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Comments

      • That's the thing, I haven't got my first pfizer shot and I'm about to get my first one next Wednesday, so I'm worried it will get even worse.

        • If it makes you feel any better:

          I have tinnitus and got the Pfizer shot.

          While, the shot made me feel sick, it didn't make the tinnitus any worse.

          • @Haliax: Good to hear that! Thanks for the input

        • +1

          I have tinnitus (see linked post) and got Pfizer last week, it hasn’t gotten worse or better.

  • I'm ok, I'm my usual self, I just complain about everything (my favourite hobby)…… Am enjoying less traffic due to restrictions though.

    Hope everyone else is good.

    • That's like everyone in Hong Kong, everyone complains but food is awesome everywhere

  • +3

    I am not ok but I refuse to languish, for no matter how hard the world pushes against me, within me there is something stronger – something better, pushing right back. I will be ok.

    On a side note, does anyone know if we can sue a federal government for gross negligence….? 😑

    • you mean not getting a deal with pfizer last year?

      • +6

        Where do I even begin? Yes, not procuring pfizer vaccines when it was offered to them on a silver plater last year, but also the 655 people who died in federally-managed Aged care, the 1000s of Australians still stuck overseas without support , Craig Kelly undermining confidence in the vaccine rollout, the pattern of denying, minimising and dismissing women issues, their inaction over climate change, … etc

        And then, there 's the frauds, the gaslighting, the lies, the playing favoritism and the toll it took, and is still taking, on Victorians' mental health… I could go on and on….*deep breath 😤

        So, yeah gross negligence and dereliction of duty is only the beginning. Where's the GG, by the way? Do we still have one?

        Anywhoo, the sun is shining, the birds are chirping, I'm going for a run with my dog :)

        • They did try to do something about virus, they try to make China accountable and was probably hoping to get compensation, would they have done more for Australian by devoting resources and time on getting vaccine instead. Or could they multitask, and get China to pay and get lots of vaccine? Anyway let's look at the future.

        • +1

          I think you would appreciate this video and other videos made by the same hilariously talented crew.

          But try not to get too upset. Yes, there are many stuff-ups, but not everything has gone completely wrong. We're still better off than quite a few other countries.

    • Belle, your profile pic is hot!

  • +1

    I still have my job and income (I work in hospo and events in Melbourne…. the Industry is getting hammered by the lockdowns and seeing Lease signs everywhere is disheartening) whereas there are many Aussies and others overseas who are doing it tough. Counting my blessings and lucky stars.

  • +7

    Just found out we are having our 4th. Not planned. Should be fun. Now looking at minivans. :(

    • +1

      If you don't want a Carnival, then the Sorento (or Santa Fe) gives you 7 seats without losing the flexibility (and cool factor) of an SUV.

      Works well if your kids are closely spaced and are all small and can squeeze in the back

      Good luck! You've done this before, you've had practice :)

      • Just need make sure there are anchors at the back

        • Mine didn't, but we had the extras installed without any issue. Not sure if the newer models have them as standard.

          Unzipped the cover and installed the bolt directly into the seat frame, then poked it through the cover to add the bracket

      • We have a 7 seat territory, and tried to do some test runs, but once that 3 row goes up, not much space left for pram, also, the 2 front seats will have car seats, so folding down a seat doesn't work with the ford.

        The current lot of kids, 1, 5 and 7 years, so yeah.

        Hyundai Palisade 7 seat is the preferred vehicle, but spending $75,000 on a car is not an option right now. Last model Carnival seem to be the only decent option under $40K

    • +2

      Congratulations :)

    • Vasectomy?

      • +1

        I was putting it off until later in the year. Should have done it sooner, but I still don't mind having a 4th, just a whole level of change going from 3. We have a 4x2 house, so 3 was a perfect fit.

        Boys will bunk together for a few years, until we can extend the house, either up or out.

        I am hoping it's a boy, as we have 2 boys and 1 girl already. Makes the reno a lot easier, as our girl would take over the current master bedroom, and the 3 boys will be able to share the 2nd bathroom and have a room each.

    • Ohh lockdown baby, there’s always a silver lining from these stay at home orders.

      • my 3rd was a lockdown baby. 4th is just dumb luck :)

    • +1

      Ohhh 4 is where people start asking "so, when are you having another?", "are you done yet?", "any more planned in the future?", "you're bloody mad!", etc. So be ready for that. I had a meeting with a peer and our manager and the first 5 minutes was them saying "NO! you can't have another one!" so, if we do end up in that situation, I'm using one of their names as the childs middle name!

      Minivans are actually kind of awesome - we have a Kia Carnival and Commuter, the versatility of the carnival in that you can pull singular seats from it to set it up perfectly and the creature comforts it offers like airconditioning for the rear seats or stacks of space to transport things (like a double pram, mattresses, etc.) makes it a really nice car to own and one that does not disappoint.

    • Get a HiAce. That way you can take your pick of the loading zones or the parents parks.

  • No really. Business still going but just so much uncertainty going around. The shipping cost is skyrocketing thanks to the American, and if this keep going sooner or later everyone will feel the pain, and the December is approaching too, 2021 is worse than 2020…and I don't think 2022 will get any better.
    Can't have the Pifzer because I am having this dry cough, lasted for months already.

    And life is getting boring and emptiness every single day, wife is…just being wife, the 4years old got some emotional issue, and then I have made a mistake to watch a godam anime which bought me a whole month of depression…just walk out of it recently.

    plus, the Ebay plus is getting bad, not much attraction there anymore. Wish I will find more awesome deals on OZB , especially on apple/google play gift card…to pay for my runaway realm…

    • What anime was it

      • +1

        First is the Violet Evergarden, beautiful drawing, but story is alright, and they gave me said it is a happy anime….Your Lie in April…yea, it was like a speeding truck ran over my chest again, again and again but just couldn't stop…

        • +1

          Oh yeah that'll do it :)
          Violet Evergarden nice to look at but sad when you think about what happened to the studio

        • Have you seen Angel Beats? heart strung.

          • @HeyHeyHeyIsItADeal: I rarely watch anime, but guess I got more spare boring time in the lockdown, and my "great friends" have watched them, then they just wanted to spread their "depression syndrome group" and decided to drag me into it.
            Well, they have succeeded…so NO! Swear to god I will not watch another "HAPPY" anime again! At least not until this pandemic is ended!

  • +1

    Even in a rut, I'm even-Steven. My loving wife of 26 years deserves most of the credit.

    Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't even have to ask the question? I remain optimistic for broader society. Research continues to strengthen the link between the "gut-brain" and cerebral brain, all down to gut flora type, diversity and balance. I firmly believe treatments for most mental health conditions will be dietary or FMT-based in the future.
    The question may then be How's ya gut?

  • R U Ok?

    Nek Minit gets negged

  • +16

    I used to look down on suicidal people and always thought "there has to be a way for things to get better, theres always a way right, your just lazy"

    Well I went through some shit in the last month that caused me to experience feelings I had never felt before, probably a combination of anxiety, stress and depression. During this time my mindset changed and for the first time in my life I actually understood how sometimes there may not be a way for things to get better, and the 'easy way out' can be the only option you feel you have of getting better.

    Now I don't believe I was ever in a position where I would have done something stupid, but it removed my mentality of thinking life is always perfect and being on a high horse.

    I'm better now and most of my issues have been resolved, but damage was done and I can't seem to get back to my old state, whilst life is good again there is times during the day i'll randomly feel sad and not really be sure why.

    • +1

      Life is a roller coaster, ups and downs abound. But being aware of them will help you deal with them. This is what I believe anyway. Acknowledge how you feel and even more so try and amit WHY you feel the way you feel.

    • +1

      Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts, I'm glad you're doing better.

      there is times during the day i'll randomly feel sad and not really be sure why

      I know what you mean, I get this too. I'm grateful my circumstances are good compared to many others, but having these random moments of sadness does make it just a little more difficult to get through the daily grind on top of the lack of drive, focus and energy.

      Hoping for less random sadness for the both of us, and anyone else who might be feeling the same :)

  • +6

    200 plus days in lockdown and I’m tired of the gaslighting by the mainstream media.

    Centrelink and the job agencies have been causing government induced mental health / suicide issues for years but now because it suits certain government and media agendas mental health is mentioned on a daily basis.

    • Not just the media. It's the government and the public service too. Not chasing down $100 million+ from businesses because of "honest mistakes", but they're happy to harass beneficiaries with unlawful debt collection practices.

  • +7

    To everyone out there having a rough time, things can and will get better, keep moving forward, better yourself, give yourself a purpose to make the world a better place.
    It could be something as simple as picking up trash on the footpath. We all have a part to play, your story has not come to an end just yet, so until then tough it out with the rest of us, make the most of it try and make something cool, improve on something in some small. After that you can work up to bigger and better things, everything will fall into place.

    I have been to very dark places and never saw an end to it. What changed you ask? I started trying to make things better, started learning a new skill programming, started reading books, I stopped isolating myself, started going outside bumping into strangers which eventually became friends. It wasn't for me back then, I was feeling horrible at the time but it was for the person I am now.
    I can't thank myself and the others that helped my on my journey to recovery enough.

    Do your future self a favor start trying to make things better now rather than later.

    Don't choose a permanent solution for a temporary problem.

    • +3

      There is a saying, tough time don't last, tough people do.

    • +1

      give yourself a purpose to make the world a better place.

      That's quite an intimidating recommendation for many, depending on how they interpret it. Even the "things can and will get better" statement is something you should be careful with. For many people, what contributes to their state of mind is that some/many of the things affecting them are totally outside of their control (e.g. other people's behaviour, chronic illness, worldwide issues etc.) and nothing they can do will realistically make any difference to the issue.

      What may help is changing how they react to what they can't control. The old "accept the things I cannot change" is a bit trite, but there's an element of truth in it. I'm not saying stop caring about things as caring about things is often a really core part of an individual. I'm also not saying it's the way of dealing with it, just a way that may help a bit. I know changing my attitude to some things that were dragging me down made things a bit easier.

    • +1

      I agree, very small changes can contribute to better mental health.

  • So not to exactly complain…..but…… Am I the only one who finds that colour painful/agitating to eyes every year the theme changes?

    Would be cool to know if their is a manual override to change the colour back as it strangely makes my eyes wince….. May use a addon to override the page if not available :)

    • +3

      You can use dark mode in profile settings and it changes to the colour of diarrhoea if that suits you better

      • +1

        It will do, thanks :)

      • Did it and its fairly cool but it didn't change the big sign above .
        Even my chat colour looks great .

      • Ah, so it's dark mode. I know the OzB colour scheme changes for RUOK Day, but I couldn't work out why it was the shade that it was. Thanks for explanation 👍🏻

  • +2

    Doing fine myself and hope other OzBargainers feel the same.

    I could be homeless, or a woman in Afghanistan under Taliban rule, or a Uyghur being held captive in China, or in Hong Kong seeing my country being destroyed by the CCP.

    But I’m WFH, still have a job and income, have a social connection, am healthy, of sound mind and body living in a relatively good and safe country and have access to OzBargain.

    Sometimes when you put perspective on your situation you realise that things really aren’t that bad.

    • +2

      or a Uyghur being held captive in China,

      Or a wigger in a US prison.

  • +1

    Every year R U OK day I will play this song again
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRU-fwS6aAU

  • +2

    Been struggling for years. Came close to doing it a few times, did it in December, woke up at 3am to discover I was still alive :(. I keep comparing myself to other people - I'm behind in life. I also have no family, and not much of a future :(

    • +12

      I keep comparing myself to other people - I'm behind in life.

      No such thing mate, everyone runs their own race. Never compare yourself to others, especially in the age of social media like we have now. What you see is likely not the reality of people's situations.

      I also have no family, and not much of a future :(

      No family here, or at all? We all have a future, it's just hard to imagine at times when it seems like you are going nowhere. Do you have hobbies/friends?

      • +2

        Hi brendanm,

        I know.

        Comparing myself isn't the cause of my mental health problems. It's just something I do. I actually am very behind in life.

        I have no family at all. Well I do have couple of friends, not close friends though, never had friends until a few years ago. And I do have a girlfriend now, we got together a couple of months ago.

        • +4

          Hey Wystri!,

          Always nice to see you on Ozbargain (I feel its not that often these days i must say) but sad to hear that you've been struggling.

          I actually am very behind in life.

          Know that feeling all to well.
          Sounds like you have it worse than me.
          It's hard to make new friends except for few periods in life (school, starting uni, new job maybe)

          I feel the same with being very behind people. But I've come to accept that's just me. I also am someone who compares myself but as brendanm says you gotta run your own race with your own goals. Easier said than done!

          Comparing myself isn't the cause of my mental health problems.

          You're probably right but make sure you get as much help as you can.

          • +2

            @gimli: My life has gone down the toilet. I spent a lot of years being angry about what’s happened and the fact when I reached out to the medical profession for help it simply wasn’t there. I’ve come to accept that this is my life, there isn’t a thing I can do about it. So now I try to just to get up, take one day at a time and try to make that a decent day. I have good days. I wish things were different but I’m not superhuman.

            I used to have a shitload of extended of family. Due to utter pettiness and lies on their behalf most of them are not in my life anymore. Nothing I could do about that. I wouldn’t have chosen for them not to be in my life. I was sad for a while. Then I realised it was so much better without them. You don’t realise who’s bringing you down until their gone. Family isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Remember you can’t choose your family but you can your friends. My world is smaller in terms of people but much much better.

            • +1

              @barghunt1: That's sucks. Medical profession may not have all the answers and sometimes its hard to get help. Never easy to ask for help (at least for me) but you will never know if you don't seek help. Some times life sucks and its not because of "mental health" issues.

              Everyone's situation is so different and that's one thing I keep learning. I'm lucky to have some great extended family. So when they say you can't choose your family I feel lucky in this instance. But that doesn't equal happiness gotta find your path in life.

              • +2

                @gimli: For family I just wanted to give another example cause people always think the grass is greener. I’m glad you have a great extended family.

            • +1

              @barghunt1:

              My life has gone down the toilet. I spent a lot of years being angry about what’s happened and the fact when I reached out to the medical profession for help it simply wasn’t there. I’ve come to accept that this is my life, there isn’t a thing I can do about it. So now I try to just to get up, take one day at a time and try to make that a decent day. I have good days. I wish things were different but I’m not superhuman.

              Sounds like me, how I feel. I wasted a few several years, angry, struggling with mental health, no family, no friends. I haven't fully accepted my life, I keep a dream that when I finish uni I'll have the high paying accounting job, house, family, friends etc. Everything will be better.

              I'm not sure what state you live in, but I'm SA there's LETS (Lived Experience Telephone Service), they also do web chat. Maybe there's a peer support service in you state?
              LETS is the only service were I've experienced really helpful support over the phone, web chat. I've tried Mental Health Triage Service and most of the time they were just useless. Last December I phoned them in a crisis situation and they were just useless. Shortly after the phone call I made an attempt. I've never used them since.

              If you'd like to chat anytime barghunt1 just shoot me a pm :). Maybe we could play some multiplayer video games at the end of the uni year :)

          • +1

            @gimli: Hi Gimli,

            Sorry for the long delay in my reply, I've just been so exhausted with uni and work.
            I'm looking for a new job, something that's not rewarding, either in social work or peer mental health. I'm honestly just waiting for the end of the uni year, I'm so exhausted.

            Always nice to see you on OzBargain too :). Missed you when you left for quite some time, hope you were ok.

            Sorry that things haven't gone as well for you as you would have liked, hoped.

            It's definitely hard to make new friends when you're older. If you'd like to chat anytime just shoot me a pm :)

            Yeah, brendanm is right, can't compare yourself, just gotta run your own race. It's definitely easier said than done.
            I think surrounding yourself with positive people is important, I mean if you're constantly comparing yourself to others you must be getting the idea that you should be achieving X level from somewhere, be it the media or people around you.

            At the end of the uni year I think I'll play some video games. Maybe we could play a multiplayer game, put together a R U OK OzBargain gaming group or something?

        • +5

          I actually am very behind in life.

          It doesn't matter though. Being "behind" is just because of what is expected. Everyone does life differently, different does not mean good, bad, behind or in front. You do you.

          Well I do have couple of friends, not close friends though, never had friends until a few years ago. And I do have a girlfriend now, we got together a couple of months ago.

          Do you want close friends, or just feel like you "should" have some? I personally find it hard to find people that I would want to spend any decent amount of time with.

          Having a girlfriend sounds like something that can go somewhere in future? I know you've also mentioned finishing uni, that would also be something good to look forward to?

          Comparing myself isn't the cause of my mental health problems

          What do you think the cause is? I have my own issues, just don't normally talk about it.

          • @brendanm: Hey brendanm,

            Sorry for the long delay in my reply, I've just been so exhausted with uni and work.

            I do want close friends, friends like a family. Just hard to meet people.

            Not sure if things are going to work out with my girlfriend :(.

            I'm really looking forward to finishing uni and starting my career, it's the only thing that keeps me going.

            What do you think the cause is? I have my own issues, just don't normally talk about it.

            A lot of trauma. Lot of stuff happened to me. Keep experiencing severe flashbacks, images and sounds.

            Sorry to hear that. If you'd like to chat sometime just shoot me a pm :). Maybe we could play some video games at the end of the uni year?

      • +3

        Never compare yourself to others, especially in the age of social media like we have now. What you see is likely not the reality of people's situations.

        Absolutely 100% this. People like posting the positive highlights of their lives. Getting a positive response to those posts makes it that little bit better. People don't often post the bad aspects that get them down every day and if they do people don't respond in a helpful way or even at all.

        I know that for the few times I post on Facebook it's usually something that's happened in my life that's made me laugh (hard to find at times). Anyone looking on would see almost totally positive posts. The reality of my life (and most people's) is far less positively skewed.

    • +11

      My friend took his life at the start of August.

      Please don’t do it. I play video games if you wanted to reach out there and unload. Let me know

      • +1

        That's the shit thing about it its permanent . And no coming back .
        Anyway this OZB initiative I have no doubt having people wonder why the colour is yellow and stumble across the reason and people will follow Neil advice .

      • +3

        I am very sorry for your loss.

      • +1

        Hey giventofly,

        Sorry to hear about your friend :(

        How are you traveling?

        Video games sounds great! I haven't played for a long time though. However I've currently got too much on my plate, but if you wanted to catch up at the end of the uni year, that'd be great, maybe we could put together a R U OK OzBargainer gaming group or something?

        • +1

          I'm doing alright, cheers.

          Looking forward to get back a sense of normalcy

  • +1

    It’s okay not to be okay 🤭😷

  • +3

    I am far from OK.

    I am also furious.

    Please wear a mask (properly) and please get vaccinated.

    • So you're saying that people could be faster to get their vax and that you're furious about the delays?

      • Yeah, so - furious about how the federal government have handled things, continue to handle things.

        I see a lot of non-compliance in my area. People not wearing masks, generally not doing the right thing.

        A delivery driver walked up to my door with his mask around his chin. Neighbour had visitors to buy something, none had masks.

        Know people that are still hesitant to get the damn vaccine. It's just frustrating.

  • +4

    I say this every time but if anyone needs someone to chat I'm always down. Shoot me a PM. That applies to any time of the year and not just today.

    We all have our problems and sometimes it's good to vent.

  • I'm doing much better after I reduced my spending. It was all temporary happiness. That new package every day would give me the kick I needed. That can only last so long.

    Another issue was that I had no room to store all the items I was buying for my gaming collection. Too much clutter in my room. Became toxic.

    Thankfully I only spent money I had and was not in debt, but still, useless spending. Now I think 5 times before jumping on a deal I find on ozbargain. The question is, do I really need it.

    Just took me awhile to realise that spending was a temporary fix and it just bottled up the real issues.

  • +5

    This feels like:

    ——————————————-
    Working Class: Help Us Please

    Republicans: No
    Democrats: No ❤🏳️‍🌈#blm

    ——————————————-

    Organisation’s need to practice a behaviour rather than using empty platitudes or painting their sites yellow.

    • because it is. nothing more than corporate virtue signalling.

      • +1

        For some it is and for others they genuinely act on shareholder values.

    • -1

      Republicans: No
      Democrats: No ❤🏳️‍🌈#blm

      I don't think these parties exist in Australia.

      • I think most people know this. But thank you for pointing out the obvious.

        Also, it was an example of how this all feels. The world must be so hard for people who are so literal

  • I had a couple of days off work recently. Feeling ok now. Thanks for asking. Are you ok?

  • -8

    Not OK with poisons
    Not OK with lockdowns
    Not OK with travel restrictions
    Not OK with masks
    Not OK with 2 weeks to flatten the curve
    Not OK with 18 months + of bullshit
    Not OK with coercion and intimidation into vaccinating
    Not OK with businesses descriminating against vaccinated or unvaccinated
    Not OK with Government and media twisting statistics to scare people

    Not OK with Australians agreeing with this clear and obvious removal of our freedoms

    • +4

      Don't worry Glady's bring your freedom back .
      Unfortunately not for long after she loses control and will probably need every hospital in the country .

      • +4

        Point proven though people don't care about people as soon as they disagree with them supposedly an R U OK thread someone says they aren't okay you have people down voting me

        Nice 10/10

        • +1

          I negged you because I am uncomfortable with your message. Doesn't mean I don't care about your general wellbeing as a fellow human.

          As much as I would like freedom, I would also like people not to die of/live with complications due to a respiratory disease.

          It is literally the choice between the sharp dangerous rock you know vs the sharpened metal that's hiding god knows what.

          • @Carmen Sandiego: I don't agree with user123321, btw interesting name, I think we could have a day where users cannot neg people.

          • +1

            @Carmen Sandiego: You are better than the majority of people who down vote and hide behind the veil of secrecy that the internet offers, by owning your down vote. You voicing your concern has more weight than a down vote.

            I don't believe old mate user123321 would agree on your statement but they chose not to down vote you back. Maybe they believe you are free to voice your opinion and not be scrutinise on your personal beliefs.
            Each to thier own.

        • I care about you as much as one can without knowing you. I hope you do some more reading on actual medical papers and see that the pandemic isn't a worldwide hoax. Good luck

    • Love lockdown. Less idiots on the road. I am very OK with that.

      But yeah not OK with forced vax/poison. Game over bro.

      • +2

        Yeah public health and individual freedom can get intertwined and quite complicated… very difficult also when we are taught to be inquisitive and ask questions, but then at home we only get secondary sources. Do you know anyone that you trust who works in the medical field? Those online who say they are medical professionals aren't always credible.

        Sounds like you're doing ok, if not, ok to talk about it, or find someone you trust and cares about you to talk.

  • I'm OK relatively speaking.

    Depression has turned into resignation, mostly because I'm a planner and I can't actually implement my plans. I should take a few days off work but, I want to escape my room and I can't really.

    Had a super fun painful reaction to Pfizer but, I have nerve pain so, it's hard to know. Half scared of dose 2 but, it's booked and I'm not cancelling.

    • +1

      If your doing anything with fear or already experiencing reactions its very bad idea and a sign to stop

      Hope you get better

      • Thank you for your concern :)

        I live with a normal baseline of being anxious at 40% of life so, this sits at a fear level of 60%. If I stopped at everything that caused anxiety, I'd get nothing done.

        As for the reaction, whole limb pain is a bit of an uncommon experience for me and considering my medical fun times, not the last time I will be in horrible pain. Heck, I go on living with half a hope I wake up with a major symptom just so I can get %&*#ing diagnosed.

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