Bought
Intel Core i5 11400 6 Core CPU 2.6 GHz (NO FAN) TRAY Version BX8070811400
And
MSI B560M Motherboard mATX Intel LGA1200 2xDDR4 M.2 B560M-A PRO
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MSI-B560M-Motherboard-mATX-Intel…
Together for a total of $351.92 (eBay Plus).
Pay $300 with 10% off eBay gift card and $51.92 on afterpay with $30 off $50 refer a friend promo.
All up should be $291.92 to upgrade my existing i7-3770 and GTX 1060 build.
I'm still running a i7-2600 and thinking of jumping on this deal. Either gona overclock or buy this.
I have a 3770 in one of my PCs.
Still goes OK, but it's not used for heavy gaming etc.
For those wanting a board consider this one instead: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/185121271712
Much better VRM which would be useful if you ever swap to a higher end CPU
Intel has stopped sending fans for normal units now not just K versions?
Gave up the pretence their fans were any good?
The 8300 and 8700 fans were junk.. the same junk.
Can’t speak for anything newer as I switched to Ryzen after that
Tray CPU's are designed for system builders, you buy them in bulk trays. Completely different to boxed products.
These are handy for people that would otherwise bin the stock cooler anyway.
This is the OEM tray version which is usually $20-30 cheaper.
Hmm, I currently have a 5700xt paired with an older i5-6600k. Do you think picking the 11400 up would be a worthwhile upgrade? I'm assuming I'd need new RAM as well, right? Was looking at building a new PC but ugh, everything's so costly.
I'd be inclined to think that the 6600k is bottlenecking the 5700xt heavily, so yes, it is a worthwhile upgrade. FWIW you can sell off the 6600k + Old RAM + Old Motherboard on ebay to recoup some of the cost.
I had i7 6700k running at 4.5ghz all core overclock. When I upgraded my gtx 970 to rtx 2070 I was getting around 90~110 fps on Warzone.
I upgraded my CPU/mobo to ryzen 5900x and with thr same RAM my fps jumped up to 140~150 fps.
So I'm going to take a guess that it's definitely bottle necking the GPU. By how much is a guess but you should check out Gamers Nexus channel he did a video about skylake in 2020 with a bunch of different games.
Keep in mind as well what resolution you’ll be gaming at. You’ll prob see the most difference at 1080p with the upgrade but less so at 1440p since you’ll be GPU bound at that point.
Even an i3 should be a pretty big difference.
These LGA1200 deals are getting to me, resolve is weakening.
If there's a cheap Z590 ITX out there soon then it's probably game over for me.
could've grabbed the Vision D z590i deal from SE the other day @ $199 unless you're wanting something cheaper?
they came back into stock as well, I bought one for an 11400 build yesterday but it looks like they are gone again.
Yeah that's pretty good I'm just being a proper stooge. Currently I really don't need to upgrade (4790k still does well, GPUs cost too much) but if the price is dirt cheap then I'll jump
If you are due for an upgrade, might as well do it, but I’d consider the 10th gen instead as they are way better than the 11th.
People are saying 12th gen is around the corner, but have you seen the Z690 motherboards’ price? The decent, and I mean fairly, with must have features cost somewhere around 500-600 dollars. So yeah that will jack up the total cost greatly with all the early adopter taxes as well as disadvantages.
If you are on budget and want to go for a mid tier build, 10-11th gen or 5000 series is your best bet, at least until late 2022 or early 2023
I agree entirely with your opinion about 5000/11th gen but why do you think 10th gen is the better proposition?
Cheers
yes I have the same question - what makes them "way better"?
Hi, thanks for asking. Take my words as reference as price may vary and this is my personal opinion based on pricing and my researches.
To simply put, as I just hinted, price! :D and keep in mind, as I have clarified, it's something I saw on the higher-end SKUs only. So as far as the scope of this post, which I assume for entry and budget builder, is not relevant.
If you are still curious, here is my 2cents.
I originally looked at the 11700k as an option for the blue team, as the 11900k is just a higher binned 11700k so really no point in getting that. You might already got yourself a 11900k if you won the silicon lottery lol. The difference is really within acceptable margin.
I then saw the 10850k on a good sale that was around the 11700k tag. Was looking for not only gaming but also workstation CPU as well so that was the better deal for me. So yeah, that's it, price. The performance to me between the 10th and 11th is acceptable, the single-core perf probably is slightly better on the 11700k than the 10850k but not by much when I did my researches, with the 10850k has better multi-core performance.
I guess in the end, which ever is cheaper. Surely the 11th gives you access to PCIe 4.0, but unless you really capitalise on it, there is no point, imho. Even for my girlfriend who is doing a lot of CAD work, Gen 4 SSDs still seem a bit overkill for her with the amount of data size she has to work with. And if you are on the budget, why Gen 4? or even those new 970 Evo Plus or SN 750 Gen 3? Crucial P1 will get the job done. If you are not on the budget, well, 5900x or 5950x are waiting, or higher Intel SKUs, but as I had pointed out.
If you are truly not on a budget, might as well wait for the 12th gen that is just 2 days from now on and splurge yourself with cool new stuff like Z690 and DDR5 and be a PCMR.
Again, my opinion. Sorry for not making it clear in the original comment. Thanks for asking, I love to talk about these :D
Cheers
P/s: 12th gen is around the corner so get ready for a wave of sale for 10/11th gen woohoo.
@Thomthomx: 11gen is fine if you avoid the K CPUs (and any 11900…) - pair with a good spec B560 board (available for less than $150) and you will get a good system for less than AMD.
12th gen will be far more efficient than 11th gen, you will only need an entry level MB for a 6 core, even something with a 4 phase VRM will be fine.
Will just need to wait for lower end MB to hit the market, a Z690 MB will be ridiculous overkill.
For what its worth, the pricing on Z690 isn't bad, the cheapest one I found on PCCG is the $379 Gigabyte Z690 Gaming X, it has a 16 phase VRM with 60A powerstages, there are only 2 secondary PCIE slots, but they are both 3.0 4x, so actually usable for PCIE storage.
It's comparable to a midrange X570 AMD board which go for around $300.
Fair point, but how long do we have to wait for a low cost option tho. I like the idea of a cheaper B660 chipset, as the Z690 seems ridiculous for me.
Although I like that that Gaming X comes with a whopping 4 M.2 slots, so keen to look at the manual when they are released to see if there is any compomises. And for what it's worth, even though I still doubt, as the Gaming X is generally an entry lineups, so I don't have my hopes too high for them, they are still aiming at budget, entry build so no doubt a 12600k might fit it. Although that is what we have to wait for reviews and benchmarks, too soon too say anything about that.
To sum up, time, I did say if you are due for an upgrade, do it. Waiting for Q1 or Q2 for a new budget, 11400 equivalent of 12th gen and B series boards is a long time. You might as well build yourself a machine and get works done now, unless it's for gaming, then I guess a PS5 for 750 can quench your thirst. Then wait til those options hit and get on the 12th gen train.
P/s: Not to mention shortage. Ugh, this is like some regular stuff now. I have no doubt the drought will continue to the 2nd half of 2022.
Additional information and clarification
My statement about 10th gen being better is what I had seen only on the higher product stack, with the scope of this post being about entry and budget build, the price of this 11400 is fantastic. Unless a deal of 10400 comes out of nowhere with the price tag around or below the ~$200 mark. The original statement is based on price.
If you are in the HODL war, I'd suggest looking for a 11500, the iGPU in that one is newer and better than the one in 11400 and the 10th gen. Should be able to help you hold decently at 1080p with low res until the drought comes through. IIRC, the iGPU in the 11500 is a 700 series, while inside the 11400 is a 600 series iGPU like the 10th gen.
Also, me saying 10th gen + Z590 was me being dumb. You sacrifice a PCIe slot there so might as well get a Z490 for ease of use. Might drop further PCIe gen 4 support but I'd rather running an extra NVMe gen 3 rather than running only 1 (or 2 depends on your board lol) SSD. It's not like Gen 3 is slow, and if you are on a budget, why Gen 4?
11400 is 730 gpu
11500 is 750. So both 700 series
What means tray version?
Think about trade items from Bunnings or bulk items from Costco, they come in bulks without fancy packagings and no fans to save cost
i5 is 6 cores now?
Good value, but at this stage I would wait for 12th gen.
the 11400 is a 14nm chip, and performs equivalent to the AMD 3600, a 7nm chip.
Intel's 10nm is considered roughly equivalent to TSMC 7nm,
12th gen Intel CPUs are the first desktop CPUs built on 10nm (the laptop CPUs started this year). We should see a similar jump in performance like AMD achieved when they moved to a smaller node - from the 2600 and 3600 - of about 15%.
Add that you also get some 'little' cores thrown in, the 12400 could be a little better than a 5600x in single core performance (hence gaming), and close to a 5800x in multicore.
edit: I didn't consider the price of this deal, probably not worth waiting if you are looking for budget options this is great value
stop thinking so much about nanometers
Just a note: 11400 is most definitely better than the AMD 3600 for gaming. Close to midway between the AMD 3600 and 5600x for gaming.
Anyone know if I could install the CPU in a Dell XPS 8910 Desktop i7-6700 https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/293072
the z170 is LGA1151 socket
and for this you'll need a LGA1200 socket
Check out https://pcpartpicker.com/ if you're wondering about parts compatibility
Where to get 10% off eBay gift cards?
Received this today and can say that it was the most poorly packaged computer equipment I have ever received. Loose in a box with the only packaging being an empty envelope sort of scrunched up.
Will have to wait for my new motherboard to test it out.
Same. Now waiting for the mobo. CPU was just hanging out in the box
Geez you've milked that i7 haven't you.