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TCL 75X925 75" Mini LED 8K Google TV $4090 + Free Delivery to Select Cities @ Appliance Central

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TCL 75X925 75" Mini LED 8K Google TV $4090 + Free Delivery to Select Cities @ Appliance Central
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Pd3al on 15/11/2021 - 14:42 appliancecentral.com.au (1198 clicks)
Last edited 15/11/2021 - 14:44 by 1 other user

My 40in 1080p TV died after 7 years. After a couple of days of research I came across this TV which seems to be a great deal.

The blurb from the TCL website:

"Welcome to the future of television. The X925 Series boasts ground-breaking 8K resolution – four times the resolution of 4K Ultra HD – for incredible sharpness and clarity. Innovative Mini LED backlight technology features outstanding colour, contrast and brightness for exceptional picture quality whilst Dolby Atmos and Onkyo Audio combine to produce an immersive multi-dimensional soundscape. With further audio and visual enhancement through the AiPQ Engine real-time optimisation and the addition of hands free voice control technology, the X925 Series presents a superior TV experience."

Appliance Central seems to be the cheapest price from what I can see. The next cheapest one I could find was from Videopro for $4,150 + $195 for delivery to SE suburbs in Melbourne. Good Guys and others have this selling for as much as $4,995.

The reviews have been mostly extremely positive with great picture quality (VRR 120hz with HDMI 2.1, IMAX Certified, HDR10, Dolby Vision), one of the best implementations of Google TV, OLED level blacks and great sound thanks to the integrated Onkyo soundbar. Main issues that come up are the initial set up process and the need to fiddle around with picture settings to get it just right.

Some reviews:
https://www.whathifi.com/au/reviews/tcl-65x925
https://www.techradar.com/au/reviews/tcl-x925-mini-led-8k-tv
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/11/tcl-x925-mini-led-8k-goog…

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  • HD9990 on 15/11/2021 - 14:51
    +3

    how many local dimming zones?

    • onlinepred on 15/11/2021 - 14:54
      +1

      According to the highly technical reviews, thousands… Definitely not 33,177,600

    • Pittyh on 15/11/2021 - 14:57
      +1

      The X925 Pro TV is based on a VA matrix, which, unlike the IPS panel itself, has a high contrast ratio. Approximately 100,000 blue mini LEDs are divided into 240 local dimming zones. With the ability to locally control the backlight intensity, this QLED panel is close to OLED in black depth. Typical contrast is 5000: 1 and brightness is 1800 nits.

      https://www.techweekmag.com/reviews/tv/tcl-x925-review/

      • reactor-au on 15/11/2021 - 15:14
        +5

        On specs, its not so easy comparing to OLED as OLED has "infinite" contrast ration.
        Also in my experience with a G1, 800nits seems plenty bright especially at night where some movies I feel like I'm getting blinded too often, 1800nits would have me wearing shades to watch those movies mastered to 1800nits+ peak brightness.

      • onlinepred on 15/11/2021 - 15:23
        +5

        VA panel means it's optimal viewing angles are highly reduced, so to get the best out of it, you would have to have it positioned perfectly, and be sitting in the correct vertical height.
        And if you are picky, we all know that mini led still has local diming bloom issues which OLED does not have. Many will not care or even notice about this, but since I do my viewing mostly at night, I notice this very very quickly. Also my mate bought the 65" and feels like he has to constantly adjust the picture to suit the show, which would drive me nuts.

        240 local dimming zones means one zone covers 138,240 pixels. Oled is 1 to 1.

        • reactor-au on 15/11/2021 - 15:37
          +4

          The local dimming zones will also get more annoying with Disney+ going IMAX enhanced to fill more of the screen with smaller black bars - those bars are so small now that everything except OLED will have bloom in those bars. My old Samsung 8 series from 2012 did a good job of dimming the black bars in 16:9 but nothing will be optimized for the IMAX ratio.

        • cille745 on 15/11/2021 - 23:59

          Really depends when you do your viewing, OLED's not bright enough for a room in the day, blooming on this would be visible at night

          • onlinepred on 16/11/2021 - 08:05

            @cille745: It depends how much light you have coming in. I’ve lived in two places and leave the curtains open and my old b7 and newer c9 is easily bright enough. No big reflections though, if you did have a bright reflection behind your tv you are screwed anyway haha. But yes lcd can get MUCH brighter if your tv room is full light.

      • tanksinatra on 15/11/2021 - 15:43
        +3

        240 dimming zones is not very good. You’ll see a lot of blooming.

      • educalifa on 15/11/2021 - 15:51
        +1

        I think you're comparing different models… X925 and X925 PRO are not the same thing.

      • flashi007 on 15/11/2021 - 19:43
        +1

        This is not the pro.

        This tv (and the pro) are covered here. Just watched it today

        https://youtu.be/2IEf_3zOJr8

    • d3al on 15/11/2021 - 15:17

      According to the official tech specs, blacks get down to 0.001% of OLED level blacks.

      • onlinepred on 15/11/2021 - 15:20
        +6

        If it matches the local dimming (as in an entire black screen only or large area covering 138,240 pixels), if you have one pixel at full brightness, the one next to it cannot be 0.001% of OLED black at all. Which is the weakness of LCD/Mini.

    • db2k on 15/11/2021 - 23:36
      +1

      I also read 240 local dimming zones … compare that to the Samsung75 QN900A which has almost 2000 …

      https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/samsung-qe75qn900a

      By adding new mini-LED lighting and nearly 2000 dimming zones to an 8K resolution, Samsung’s already impressive backlighting and QLED technologies serve up arguably the most cutting-edge TV we’ve ever seen.

  • thisguy on 15/11/2021 - 14:56

    ohh tempting offer. Any thoughts on this compare to the TCL C825? Was sort of hard to justify jumping to 8K

  • tyb1987 on 15/11/2021 - 15:09
    +8

    It was $3440 on the same model from the same seller few weeks ago.

    • d3al on 15/11/2021 - 15:13
      +1

      Yeah it was. But stock is desperately low at every retailer due to supply chain issues and every retailer has marked this TV up. I tried a few different retailers who couldn't give me an ETA for stock.

    • flashi007 on 15/11/2021 - 19:44

      Was also getting $300 back on promotion if purchased before yesterday from some select sellers. Could’ve got it cheaper last week when good guys had their 11% off sale - and with the $300 back was around $3200 (total)

  • nmur on 15/11/2021 - 15:29
    +16

    What proper 8K content is even available? It feels like we're only recently reached the point where 4K content is popular, and lots of movies and such are just upscaled to 4K anyway.

    I feel like $4000~ would be better spend on an OLED 4K screen instead, but that is just my opinion.

    • tightm8 on 15/11/2021 - 15:37
      +8

      I don't even think we're anywhere near close to 4k being fully utilised, agree, this is pure bragging rights.

      • samfisher5986 on 15/11/2021 - 16:35
        +2

        We've had 4k for a long time now.

        We haven't moved to 8k because we have 0/2 of an internet connection capable of 8k, or a bluray disc capable of it.

    • reactor-au on 15/11/2021 - 15:39
      +2

      Size value is not as good on OLED, 65" is more this price with 77" being near on $6,000.

    • Xizor on 15/11/2021 - 15:41
      +1

      The 8K part is largely gimmick. Besides that you'd maybe buy it for the extreme brightness levels, but it depends on your use case and optimism about how long it'll last i guess. I'd get the TCL C825 or an OLED.

  • hamwhisperer on 15/11/2021 - 15:33
    +2

    I don't undertand why anyone would want 8K on less than a 130" set.

    Half the HDTV devices, PCs, consoles can barely drive 4K properly at native res (all the time) and I'd rather put the extra money I paid for 8k, into quality / blacks / refresh rate or something.

    It might be a good TV, I dunno but I feel like for $4k, you can get well, a better quality 4K only set.

    • VVamo on 17/11/2021 - 22:04

      Yep 8k is not making much sense right now I.M.O.
      I reckon it would better to get a quality 4k TV than an 8k.

      I can rarely get content with a bitrate that will get the most out of my 2020 midrange 4k TV.
      8k 120hz content just doesn't exist !

  • renaldof on 15/11/2021 - 15:40
    +6

    This 8k technology is so clear that it can almost replace a window!
    (in this sentence I can replace the "8k" for DVD / HD / FHD / 4k, as well as my age tag for each time I said the same thing)

    • Timboj on 16/11/2021 - 11:54

      It is pretty remarkable to see in person. Pity content availability effectively make it a gimmick for at least a few years

  • [Deactivated] on 15/11/2021 - 15:50
    +9

    8K is ok but my eyes demand 16K as a minimum, I can also see around 1000 fps which is why I demand the best.

    • NatoTomato on 15/11/2021 - 15:56
      +1

      Nah bro, your eyes can't see any difference past 60fps and that's definitely not because the screens only 60hz

    • [Deactivated] on 15/11/2021 - 18:45

      eyes cant see over 30fps

      • UFO on 15/11/2021 - 19:30

        is your sarcasm meter broken today?

        • [Deactivated] on 15/11/2021 - 20:14
          +3

          Is yours?

  • Bargainaholic on 15/11/2021 - 15:53
    +2

    These 8k panels depreciate very quickly as the 2020 model was $2k in June. I would hold off until at least boxing day sales
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/629614

  • ericshurn on 15/11/2021 - 15:57

    Anyone have suggestions for a 55 inch gaming TV? So would require hdmi 2.1 and 120hz for about the $1000 mark

    • alz on 15/11/2021 - 15:59
      -2

      Why would you, better spend it on a gaming monitor instead

      • ericshurn on 15/11/2021 - 21:17

        The gaming monitors I've seen only have a displayport, no hdmi 2.1 which is what's required for the Xbox series X

        • CharcoaI on 15/11/2021 - 22:17

          The Gigabyte M28U/M32U, Samsung G7 (28") and Eve Spectrum are all HDMI 2.1 (granted they're not 48gbps, but they can still do 4k 120hz HDR)

    • [Deactivated] on 15/11/2021 - 16:21

      Samsung non dimming zone one. I have a Q60R which is not local dimming, got it for $1300 and it is an excellent panel.
      6 ms input lag when using VRR ALLM and 120 HZ 1440P mode. Only used for a Series X so is perfect for my gaming needs, 4K 120HZ would be better but a Samsung LCD would be fine.
      OLED will net you IR with static images when gaming, ie mini maps or w/e

      • onlinepred on 15/11/2021 - 16:34
        +1

        Only need to worry about static images if it's a mini map that sits there for like 5 hours every day for months and months. I'm sure people play more than one game, or watch movies/shows etc right?

        • [Deactivated] on 15/11/2021 - 16:36
          -1

          They asked for a gaming TV, if you want to risk nursing a panel because of potential IR, then go right ahead.
          I don't support tech that places a limit on how I want to use it.

          • onlinepred on 15/11/2021 - 16:47

            @[Deactivated]: I agree entirely, it's all about the balance of if you value picture quality etc. I got a 55" B7 for around $1400 a few years back, and it's still perfect, perhaps not quite as bright, but I just increased the brightness and all good. When I initially got it, I was very paranoid, but now dislike sitting playing PC games on my IPS panels ;-)

        • DanielP2 on 15/11/2021 - 18:09
          +1

          Oled is fine. Had mine for a year, played months of WoW, then months of red dead. Now I'll play months of forza horizon 5. I use it as a daily driver pc monitor, so lots of Web page viewing too No burn in at all.

          Only precautions are lowered oled brightness, 3 minute screen time out, turn off when not in use.

          For this slight inconvenience I get a monitor that nothing else in its price range can come close to competing with.

          • [Deactivated] on 15/11/2021 - 19:36
            -4

            @DanielP2: In other words you have to nurse it, gotcha.

            • DanielP2 on 15/11/2021 - 20:41

              @[Deactivated]: No, You are missing the point… Its barely any nursing is what im getting at. If you cant turn a monitor off using a remote when ur not using it, you probably should just stop using technology…
              The other 2 things i do are set and forget…

              Hell, come to think of it, the only reason I have to turn it off manually is because ive been too lazy to install and set up "LGTV Companion" on my PC

              • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2021 - 07:37
                -2

                @DanielP2: No that is nursing, having to turn off anything is nursing, having to change settings or lower is nursing, if you cannot use something to its full potential, that's nursing and pointless.
                Try editing on an OLED for 8 hrs per day 7 days a week, see how long an OLED lasts then.
                If you cannot use something as intended and need to adopt some form of change, then that is nursing, OLEDs have ABL for a reason, anything that uses a preventative measure for IR is nursing, simple.

                • DanielP2 on 16/11/2021 - 08:01
                  -1

                  @[Deactivated]: Editing on an OLED 8hrs a day, 7 days a week is not the same as using it as a gaming monitor. Turning down OLED brightnes is something you should do anyway if you sit less than 1m from the screen in a dark room. Having to change settings to suit your usage is how pretty much anything works, its the reason we have settings in the first place. All this is worth it for the best gaming picture quality currently available. If this doesnt matter to you, obviously OLED isnt for you, buy IPS. Its not rocket science…

                  • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2021 - 08:18

                    @DanielP2: No what you're trying to do is deflect, if you have to alter anything due to IR then you're nursing, that was my point all along, still having 2 plasmas here I would know a thing or 2 about day to day use for them. Having to turn down settings to prolong their lives is a real thing which = nursing.
                    Stop being obtuse when it comes to what gamer's usage would be, 8 hours is nothing for any gamer especially when we have had lock down. 8 hours a day 7 days a week is a real thing too, so whilst I might have used editing as an example as it is a real thing for professionals, an OLED would be destroyed in no time at all due to having the proper settings rather than nursed ones, ie maximum nits.
                    Again explain to me how ABL works and why it is a nursing tool for OLED?

                    • VVamo on 17/11/2021 - 22:15

                      @[Deactivated]: Most of what you are saying about OLED is wrong or at least overstated.
                      You are one of these guys who heard 5 years ago that "OLED gets burn in" and cant let it go.
                      The tech has changed its not really a drama anymore.

                      P.S. Apparently a real "gamer" plays 8 hours a day x 7 days a week aye ? … yeah nah mate

                • onlinepred on 16/11/2021 - 12:53

                  @[Deactivated]: Surely common sense applies, you are making a compromise on picture quality for convenience or for your specific use case. That's fine, that is the choice you made. Some tech has compromises. The downside of OLED, is that running static images for 8 hours a day everyday for months will cause IR. So you would then have to make the compromise for your use case and get LCD. That's fine. For many though OLED as a monitor has and will work fine, with just a little care, like turning it off when you aren't using it.

        • Timboj on 16/11/2021 - 12:06
          +3

          I've had an LG C7 since new (approaching 10k hours usage) and still have no signs of IR. Used for gaming, YT (lots of YT), Netflix and Plex (think repetitive shapes).

          No 'nursing' on my end. OLED light 100, contrast 100 and 49-50 brightness…

          Would I leave it running all day on something with a static image? No, but that just doesn't come up in my viewing either. I don't avoid anything for the sake of the screen.

    • FrugalShopper on 15/11/2021 - 18:49

      Recently purchased a 65' X90J (Sony Bravia). The 55' is about $1800 - $2000 if you can stretch it a little.

    • hippyhippy on 16/11/2021 - 10:33

      used lg OLED if u can find one.

  • peppermint420 on 15/11/2021 - 16:11
    +7

    Who on earth is paying 4 grand for a TCL tv

    • HD9990 on 16/11/2021 - 00:26

      Who on earth is posting this to you?

    • 1st-Amendment on 16/11/2021 - 09:10

      Who on earth is paying 4 grand for a TCL tv

      People who care more about specs than a badge on the front.

    • haynes48 on 22/11/2021 - 08:31

      People who don't care about general quality control, laggy/buggy interface and backlight bleed.

  • spaceflight on 15/11/2021 - 16:18
    +3

    75" Mini LED

    How long has 75" considered to be mini?

    • hellboi on 15/11/2021 - 16:45

      hope it makes sense now 75" Mini-LED or 75" 8K Mini-LED

    • DanielP2 on 15/11/2021 - 18:10

      Tcl have a 100" so yeh, this thing is tiny.

  • gakko on 15/11/2021 - 16:26

    Isn't there a marketing term for 8k yet? If 4k is ultra hd maybe 8k can be.. I dunno… Best-d

  • nmur on 15/11/2021 - 16:55
    +9

    I think I'll wait a while, my current TCL is still working okay.

  • ratoloko on 15/11/2021 - 16:58
    -1

    Dude, for $4k you buy a Samsung QLED/Neo-QLED.

    These cheap brands will cost you later.

    • spaceflight on 15/11/2021 - 17:29

      These cheap brands will cost you later.

      How?

      • ratoloko on 15/11/2021 - 17:33

        Poor image quality, hardware problems earlier than expected, you name it.

        I have a Samsung QLED but if I would have to buy a cheap TV, Hisense is the only brand I could possibly trust.

        • spaceflight on 15/11/2021 - 18:02

          Poor image quality

          I don't know how that will cost anything

          hardware problems earlier than expected, you name it.
          I have a Samsung QLED but if I would have to buy a cheap TV, Hisense is the only brand I could possibly trust.

          So you are assuming that because this costs less than a Samsung or Hisense it will break earlier?

          • haynes48 on 22/11/2021 - 08:40

            @spaceflight: I bought a $2600 TCL and it had software issues and shocking backlight bleeding out of the box. Wouldn't connect to the internet via Ethernet cable. TCL support (after months of run around) basically told me too bad, deal with it.

            Haven't had any issues with my previous Sony, LG and even the super cheap Soniq ran for years with the only issue being speaker buzz.

        • DanielP2 on 15/11/2021 - 18:30

          Samsung, Sony, Loewe are all considered premium brands i guess (certainly compared to TCL) but all have had models with their fair share of problems. How the company handles warranty claims is probably more important (eg, will they try to dodge responsibility?). No idea how they all compare to each other in that respect tho, i just know both myself and my brother in law have had lemon Samsung TVs, mine was repaired several times, and his refunded entirely. So its still luck of the draw with any brand

        • Stuntdriver on 16/11/2021 - 09:06

          The last Samsung TV i purchased lasted just over 2 years. My original Panasonic plasma still going strong after 14 years, my other panasonic P65VT60 still going after 8 years. Its a shame they dont make TV's anymore but i wont be buying a Samsung if my panasonics ever die.

        • 1st-Amendment on 16/11/2021 - 09:13

          Poor image quality, hardware problems earlier than expected, you name it.

          Lol when you can't think of a reason, make one up!

          • haynes48 on 22/11/2021 - 08:42

            @1st-Amendment: My $2600 TCL had software issues and shocking backlight bleeding out of the box.
            TCL support told me to take a hike.

        • VVamo on 17/11/2021 - 22:21

          Hisense is the last brand I would trust !!
          They sell low spec Australian versions of their TVs with identical model numbers to the high spec USA versions.
          Creating confusion about what the spec TV you are even getting.

          • Their Vidaa OS doesn't run half the Australian streaming apps.
          • Their customer service flat out ignores basic questions.
          • Their firmware updates break features because they roll them out untested.

          Avoid Avoid Avoid.

          • 1st-Amendment on 22/11/2021 - 10:58

            @VVamo:

            Their Vidaa OS doesn't run half the Australian streaming apps.

            Which is why I'd stay away from anything other than Sony or TCL because they use Google TV, which is likely to have the best support now and going forward.
            Even the messiah, the LG C1 has had some compatibility issues with WebOS and apps, so you'd have to wonder how sustainable that is long term.

      • iand on 15/11/2021 - 18:02
        +1

        My TCL is about 6 years old and unfortunately has no problems, still hoping it will break so I can justify a new one but not going to hold my breath

      • iand on 15/11/2021 - 18:06
        +1

        Also I think I read somewhere the new Samsung smart T.V's now come with adds and if you turn them off it turns off some of the features I could be wrong but you might want to look into this before buying another Samsung

    • FreddyMerc on 15/11/2021 - 17:43
      +1

      Umm no, this TCL craps all over the samsung QLED and is on par with the best Neo-QLED from Samsung. Don't listen to this misinformed bigot.

      • dazweeja on 15/11/2021 - 18:10

        True but it's more expensive than the QN85A so that might be worth considering if you don't need 8K:

        https://www.appliancecentral.com.au/qa75qn85aawxxy-samsung-7…

        Edit: Just read some reviews and apparently the blacks aren't great on the QN85A so might not be an option after all.

        • FreddyMerc on 15/11/2021 - 18:38

          Yea, I got the 4k version of this for $1644, the blacks are good but I'm no expert.

      • 1st-Amendment on 16/11/2021 - 09:15

        this TCL craps all over the samsung QLED

        And let's not forget the native Google TV which TCL has. If there is a better UI on a TV I haven't seen it.

    • onlinepred on 15/11/2021 - 18:11

      Yep, I want to pay for my TV to have ads in it, HELLS YEA

      • DanielP2 on 15/11/2021 - 18:25

        yeh i think this is becoming standard practice these days.. Frustrating as hell

    • ratoloko on 16/11/2021 - 09:35
      -2

      Laughing my ass off while reading these comments.
      I bet you guys bought the cheapest model and then the brand is bad.

      I have the 2018 Samsung QLED Q7FN 65"4K HDR, it was the first QLED model back then and with the One Connect Box.
      Any cable is connected to this box and a thin fiber cable alike is connected to the back of the TV.

      Regarding ADs, almost any smartTV will have it. It is not about Samsung, Sony or whatever.
      I have a home solution called Pi-Hole which I use to block all the ADs while my TV is still fully smartTV so I have no idea what people are saying about it stops being a smartTV

      Oh but QLED black isn't black. Sure it isn't and what??
      Buy an OLED TV then with a 100% black-black and with the burn-in screen. They are using software to work around the problem just like smartphones but it is still there, the physical problem will live with the TV
      Being from the IT field, software has bugs and crashes.

      I play XBox on mine 24/7, Netflix, YouTube, Amazon, you name it, it just works as expected.
      Pi-Hole does the rest.

      These comments are from people that read the store reviews rather than tech reviews that test these TVs bit by bit.

      Go figures

      • onlinepred on 16/11/2021 - 13:13

        If you got LG or Sony OLED, you would have all the benefits, no ads, and perfect picture ;-)

        Also if you use it 24/7, you really need to reassess your life. As an IT bloke, you should know your stuff Samsung and cheaper brands are the only ones that pump ads through..

        Anyway, QLED is entirely inferior to even LG OLED of 2017 when you bought it for your application, I've been gaming on my OLEDS since b7, no "burn in" (which they don't suffer from mr "IT GUY")

        Look at the local diming section: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/q7fn-q7-q7f-qled-2…

    • VVamo on 17/11/2021 - 22:27
      -1

      TCL is highly regarded internationally only in Australia did TCL brand get this "trash" reputation
      I am not sure why.

      Samsung TVs run unskippable ads within their UI.
      This is a hard NO from me to ever buy TV with ads likes this.

  • BarneyKB on 15/11/2021 - 18:42

    ooh, exciting! The first mini LED product I've seen

  • dreamerman on 15/11/2021 - 19:21

    Is this better than 75U80G Hisense 75 INCH ULED 8K SERIES TV?

  • dreamscene on 15/11/2021 - 21:54
    +1

    4K projector for sub $4k anyone?

  • BusMan247 on 16/11/2021 - 00:49

    As a gamer who was considering getting a 4k oled with hdmi 2.1 to replace my C8. Don’t do it if you own a PS5.

    So I play COD Cold War and I play 1080p 120hz and it looks fantastic. I was attracted to being able to run 4k 120hz. Anyway after some research it turns out the new consoles use dynamic resolution and picture regularly hovers at 1200p. Hardly worth the investment.

    As for 8k.. things aren’t even maximising 4k properly yet. Tech is not worth the premium imho. Much better getting a real nice 4k tv.

    • reactor-au on 16/11/2021 - 09:55

      Better off with a Series X for competitive, VRR is great for games not holding to 60 or 120.

      • BusMan247 on 17/11/2021 - 07:21

        It’s basically the same. First year of release and it can’t hold 4k 120.

  • affinity on 16/11/2021 - 05:25

    Also, massive power consumption according to the specs at the link.

  • THICKnSLOW on 16/11/2021 - 06:44

    Look at it this way.

    A 75" 8K TV is useful for displaying 4 sources at the same time, in 4K resolution @ approximately 37" screen size each.

  • B-Moose on 16/11/2021 - 15:06

    Any details on the 98" C735 yet?
    https://www.tcl.com/au/en/products/c735/98C735.html

    Panel type/ number of local dimming zones? And how many hdmi 2.1 ports?

    Might be a good alternative to a projector for a home theatre.

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