I haven't been able to find these specs for cheaper anywhere else. Harvey Norman, of all places!
The 14.1 inch model also available for $248 https://www.harveynorman.com.au/ollee-14-1-inch-celeron-n335…
Enjoy.
Ollee 11.6 inch Celeron N3350/4GB/64GB eMMC Laptop $198 + Delivery ($0 in-Store/ C&C) @ Harvey Norman
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Even If this was $20 I would feel too much guilt giving this as a white elephant gift
Trying to make anything load on it is like me trying to run a marathon on New Year’s Day with a hangover
The gift for those you hate
You must be from the other side of the tracks. In any case, can I please be someone you hate?
I’m not trying to be a jerk… but I’m downvoting this just so unaware people don’t actually buy this pile of crap
Unaware people will get a perfectly acceptable laptop.
Unfortunately i bet that the OP did.
I bought two.
Hot garbage tech
Far too potato
Life is too short for a computer this crappy.
No offence OP, but I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. That CPU was anaemic when it was released, and it has definitely not improved.
For a rough example, in some (certainly not all) benchmarks it gets beaten by a Raspberry Pi 4. They were generally used in embedded devices or NAS style systems on unix for less overhead. Add to that the lack of ongoing manufacture support or compatibility with Windows 11 and it's just not worth it in my opinion.
You'd get much better bang for buck - and a much more reliable/supported device - with either a second hand or manufacturer refurb laptop from within the last 5 years.
A quality ex-Corp laptop won’t have any of those issues. Many are still under warranty!
I picked up two Lenovo ex-corp laptops with 7th gen i5 CPUs and SSDs for the same money as this, and they had two years warranty remaining from Lenovo. Both have been perfect for my mother and mother-in-law for over a year.
Same experience, but with Dell laptops. Built like tanks and still performing very well. OP is clearly very biased.
can you give me links?
Good luck getting guarantees of battery life on nearly all second-hand laptops. Let alone getting something light and small for everyday tasks with a decent warranty.
Completely different needs and.wants.
@wiffy: The battery life on this new garbage will be rubbish, so hardly the big plus you’re trying to paint it as.
This sort of crap is a total waste of money, and not even suitable for everyday tasks. Windows Update will cripple this thing before you even load any other apps.
@Mitch889: I'm running two of these Ollee models fully up to date with windows update and with winget.
Nothing for nanna?
You said it… Dell are like the Camry of laptops, may not be the most stylish but it’s good to use and will keep going forever
Where did you find?
I'm looking for a Lenovo ex corp
@Bretttick: you're saying you can't find anything for $200… in a thread about a laptop with warranty that costs $198?
hmmmm.
@Bretttick: I was comparing more like-for-like with the ~$250 14-inch model.
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/241169/93622/3ad3bd47-…
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/241169/93623/56166ff6-…
I picked up two Lenovo L450 refurbs for my mum and mother in law, both had about two years left on their 5 year on-site warranties. According to the Lenovo support site, both were purchased with the extended service package. Certainly a YMMV situation, but both of the units had only ~100 cycles on the battery too.
Neither have had any issues with either machine in the year since purchase.
@Mitch889: those secondhand Lenovos are good value if those came with the 1920x1080 screen option (the 14" Ollee doesn'!), and Lenovos are often modular, upgradable and repairable; a new battery would be $40.
The drawbacks for me are that the Lenovo is twice as heavy as the Ollee, a good bit larger, not silent, and less likely to spend time sitting coolly on my lap. I view netbooks as laptops and laptops as desktops.
@mantichoral: I’d be surprised if those Ollee’s sit coolly on your lap with no fan. They’ll be light because the mainboard is tiny and has a very small cooling solution. The CPU will always be working hard considering the low performance potential.
The Lenovos don’t have to work hard under normal conditions, and seemed to run quite cool when I was using them.
But to each their own, I would rather a performant refurb over these Ollee’s every day of the week.
Have you actually used a Chromebook? ChromeOS is far less demanding than Windows, hence why Chromebooks tend to have 'worse' specs on paper. But they'll all run better than this terrible Windows laptop
Totally agree with this. A thing to note is that some manufacturers have started to put more powerful processors in their chromebooks now (e.g. i5).
Have you actually used a Chromebook?
If I wish to buy a surveillance laptop tied to Google with no options for a clean Linux install, I'll let you know.
With a bit of cutting down of bloatware you can make anything run well for daily tasks, old and new. These laptops are certainly no exception.
@wiffy: Windows and iOS dial home too. Granted, that info is not used to sell things to you.
I agree. Linux is the way to go. Pop!_OS for the win.
EDIT: Just thought of something… not all China laptops will have hardware compatible with Linux. In fact… some of them won't have drivers compatible with default Windows ones either. If you did a fresh install on this, you're not guaranteed to have things working 100%. Happened to me. I had to download their specific Windows image to get the drivers. I was going to extract them and do a fresh install, but decided to give it away instead.
Curious to know, what do you think is the cheapest price for a decent new laptop?
Depends on what you want your laptop to do. Gaming? You can get an okay-ish one for $1000 to $1200. General productivity? Maybe around $800 to $1000. Extremely basic stuff? $600 to $800.
You are a poet.. maybe “some offence intended (to the hardware)”
Instant ewaste
Probably ok for checking emails but anything more, even web browsing, isn't going to be pleasant on this thingNonsense. Web browsing is fine. Plus a lot more besides.
Or buy an abacus. With a bit of practice, it will probably be faster than this
Or buy an abacus. With a bit of practice, it will probably be faster than this
My sides are splitting!
In the meantime, millions of users are buying cool-running entry- level budget laptops that can outlast their more expensive heat monsters precisely because they stay cool. No early heat-related death. No early disposal.
Laptops that are perfectly capable of the tasks their users expect.
Is this okay for kids watching youtube and such?
I don't need to be an enthusiast to know that a Celeron and 4gb RAM is shit in 2021.
Yep. When Ur PC have less ram than your phone. You know it's trash.
Yep. When Ur PC have less ram than your phone. You know it's trash.
No, it means you probably spent several times the cost of this device for a pocket computing / surveillance device with a big focus in other areas besides everyday computing tasks.
It is also indicative of the mobile market moving far quicker than PCs with well in excess of a billion devices sold each year.
For ~$89 more than this laptop, you can get a Realme 6(wireless1.com.au) from Wireless1, which has 8gb of RAM.
You are comparing RAM size between a phone and a laptop. Stronly suggesting more RAM = better. Why don't u spend $89 more and buy a phone then?
Should I point out the absurdity of comparing 2 devices with different architectures, different OSs and different use-cases?
You have just outed yourself as an enthusiast out of touch with everyday computing. We can go back and forth like this trying to prove one or the other is better. The laptop will win in some areas. The phone in others.
And then what? I run a phone using the latest LineageOS with hardware from 8 years ago and 3GB of ram. It runs superbly. 32-bit ARM. Must be trash…
You are comparing RAM size between a phone and a laptop.
No, I'm not. @Jaduqimon is.
Stronly suggesting more RAM = better.
It is better lol.
outed yourself
What is this, some sort of undercover mission? I was never trying to conceal it lol
I run a phone using the latest LineageOS with hardware from 8 years ago and 3GB of ram. It runs superbly. 32-bit ARM.
Good for you, glad it's working out. You seem to be happy with it, but would someone else be happy with it? Probably not.
Yep. Enthusiast.
I run a netbook with 2GB ram from 8 years ago just fine in 2021. Would this rank as sub-trash to you?
The specs are fine. If they weren't, they would have moved on by now. Including Acer, Lenovo, Asus, etc.
@wiffy: What do you run on it? I'm assuming Linux. Windows would struggle to even boot with 2gb of RAM. And there is a difference between just running, and it actually being usable.
@Omk4r123: Laptops with these specs are all usable. You have enthusiast leanings and a strong desire for 'better than you' commentary. People advertise chromebooks here all the time, which have similar specs but in my opinion worse. Just relax.
You have enthusiast leanings and a strong desire for 'better than you' commentary.
For what it's worth, yes, I am an enthusiast. How is my level of expertise even remotely relevant to this deal? And no, I'm not trying to prove that I am better than you, I just think that it's not worth buying a laptop with these specs for $178 in 2021/22.
For what it's worth, yes, I am an enthusiast. How is my level of expertise even remotely relevant to this deal?
99.9%+ of enthusiast techies have completely lost touch with the entry-level market, with many loving to completely dismiss perfectly fine hardware as rubbish. Apparently these enthusiasts are unaware that some light pruning of bloatware can make most machines….(cetainly this one) run like a dream.
@wiffy: Clearly you don't understand the reason why these companies continue to sell these devices.
Here's a hint: $$$
Nothing to do if they're fit for purpose, it's because they can sell devices like this for a price point where people will purchase them and then complain, but little wil be done.
Clearly you don't understand the reason why these companies continue to sell these devices.
I understand just fine.
The hardware is perfectly capable of doing daily tasks without complaints. The hardware is fit for purpose. Maybe just not your purpose. That is the point.
The overwhelming majority of complainers, I suspect, are enthusiasts running more expensive hardware who like to let off some steam and wave the peen on forums. Disproportionate demands of budget hardware, etc.
The actual customers buying are mostly happy. I suspect, of course. I have no way of proving it to your satisfaction but you would think that if these units raised their support costs too much, they'd be given the chop. They are fit for purpose. What we have here are a disproportionate amount of complainers waving the peen and amusing themselves.
This spec is offered by all the major brands. There is nothing wrong with the spec. It is fit for purpose.
NOPE.
It's laggy watching YouTube and starting up. Bought a Jumper EZBOOK 3 Pro a few years ago with N3450 CPU. Even after keeping it very stock and disabling startup services, minimal apps bare minimum - guess what, still laggy.
Lots of variables here. Impossible to diagnose the past. I bet it could be fixed. Most problems are software bloat, not hardware. In any case, I have had great experiences on low-end hardware.
@wiffy: Tried fixing it for ages. Did clean reinstall of windows 10 and latest system updates. Clean install of system drivers. Chrome and other apps like Adobe Reader DC. Very very stock and very basic. I've wiped, defragged hard drives, done hundreds of Windows clean installs over the last 20 years so yeah I know what I'm doing.
it still lagged. It's a low end Celeron chip, people have to temper their expectations. It's not that fluid. For the price 198 is cheap but there's better options out there if people save up some more cash for something better.
@adrianhughes1998: That's the problem. With updates, Windows gets heavier. Everything slows down. There's no coming back from that unless you do a clean install and cut it off from the internet.
@adrianhughes1998: Updates are one of the first things that a tech can disable. They are completely overrated.
@wiffy: A lot of them improve performance as well. For higher end chips than this, it works fantastic. Always has for me. Update and cleanup those files from Windows itself.
@wiffy: Lol, who are you? And, who is your tech guy?
Generally it's best to install updates. In a company, an admin may hold them back for internal testing but they will eventually be installed.
@ihfree: Lol, who are you? And, who is your tech guy?
None of your business. I do not need a tech guy. A company can do what they want. A home user is another thing entirely.
It's not elitist or enthusiast to avoid bottom of the barrel tech
Trash why? Elaborate.
OP, I think you missed the word 'not' in your reply. These devices were pretty crappy when they came out, they're even worse now.
It may work for a little while but this device will choke quickly, not only is the CPU crappy, the eMMC memory used in this make these type of devices almost unbearable to use.
If it was $80 - $100 maybe then it would be a consideration, but for $200, no way.
If it was $80 - $100 maybe then it would be a consideration, but for $200, no way.
Try to find these specs selling for the price you specify. Some have suggested second- hand laptops but I wouldn't recommend that route for anyone except seasoned IT pros who know exactly what they are getting and who will still likely get a heavier and pooer-running laptop before the battery dies for the same or less money.
I have a laptop with this same CPU and 4gb of ram, it can't play YouTube videos without lagging unless you drop the video to 144/240p
This laptop can't play a YouTube video unless 144p /240p? You have something choking your cpu. This is easily possible on far, far older hardware.
@wiffy: This specific unit has a 240gb SSD, 4gb of ram and is running arch. I don't think there's even the possibility of upgrading anything else. Even my pinebook pro which has a similar sort of powered CPU can't do youtube beyond 480p very well (although 1080p playback of local files is fine).
Send it to wiffy. Clearly he/she'll fix it ;)
Only if you hate the kids. Or their parents
Only if you hate the kids. Or their parents
In my world this is a great gift. More than I would spend.
Having used the same processor in a smaller NUC style device, avoid if possible for this purpose. For 1080p YouTube, I was dropping around 20% frames with the CPU pinging. This is due in part to the lack of hardware support for decoding any recent video codec. In a faster CPU you can manage with software decoding, but not this. You may find it "ok" with 720p and below, but it's not going to be enjoyable, and certainly not if multitasking.
If you're hoping to use Netflix/Disney, I'd do further research to confirm that this chipset can even handle the DRM requirements these days. Far more trouble than its worth.
This model's Intel HD 500 graphics chipset supports hardware AVC, H.264 and HEVC decoding, per its specs.
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/igpu-intel_hd_graphics_500-57
There's a lot of difference between chip hardware released in 2016, and in, say, 2006.
(I have no idea what hardware support for codecs has to do with DRM, but then, neither does the post I'm replying to.)
Just use a cheap tablet or phone. My mum got a similar laptop and it couldn't handle streaming video without dropping the quality. Was a complete waste of time, her phone was faster in every way.
Absolutely this. At least a modern Android tablet will have far more comprehensive hardware codec decoding and proper DRM chipset support.
Not worth it. Even at $200, running Windows these things are SLOW AF.
If fossil fuel is being used, at least produce products that are not trash.
One man's trash is another's bargain cool-running perfectly fine treasure.
I feel like using the term cool running in this thread is slighting the Jamaican bobsled team.
this Ollee laptop is, with good reason, called a snowbook.
Looks cool, runs cool.
Be sure to grab one of these at the same time to put it in:
https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/j-burrows-…
Omg
Actually should be sold as a bundle
This made my night omg thank you
Be sure to grab one of these at the same time to put it in:
Extended warranty has been binned. Thanks for the tip.
LOLee
As a general rule IMO if it's slower than a Dell Optiplex 9020 avoid! This laptop is a $198 paperweight.
Intel Core i5-4570 - Average CPU Mark 5163
Intel Celeron N3350 - Average CPU Mark 1142Strange comparison.
Agreed.
Good benchmark, because you can get these rock bottom in ex-corp. probably $200
It feels like the OP is having us for a lark trying to prop this thing up…It feels like the OP is having us for a lark trying to prop this thing up…
Not at all. My posts are sincere. Feel free to buy your second-hand laptop. I prefer to buy hardware with very low TDP processors that perform the everyday basics well enough for me to use them daily, in a small size and with light weight and no heat-related early death, preferably.
The gift for those you hate