Very cheap price for 22kw 5m EV charging cable for use with public charging stations or residential units that don't come with a cable.
IMHO a must have for every EV owner to keep in their car should they need to use an AC public charging station, as more and more require you to BYO cable (mostly because people are animals and treat the included cord like crap so it breaks and costs the operator of the charger a fortune to keep replacing).
EVs is about charging when you are sleeping, at work, shops etc. It isnt an extra process, you just need to integrate it into your day.
So then the demand and need for dedicated charging stations will be less then petrol stations because we can charge at home (which is probably what most will do) or at work, in the shops etc.
The main point here is its not the governments job to put in infrastructure.
Your point before was
Basically a condition for AGL, Nissan, Mitsi, Tesla, Ford, Toyota, GM etc to sell the cars would be they need to provide and maintain 'x' amount of chargers
Now it isn't?
You think Tesla want to change to a standard? Theyre just like how apple have the lightning port
Tesla will let anyone use their patents for free, it's just a bad deal.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a35030461/why-other-car-co…
Tesla have already changed to the CCS2 standard outside of the US. They were forced to create their own connector in the US because there were no suitable standards back when they released the Model S in 2012.
Their port is a standard (CCS2) shared with practically every other new EV. They are also soon opening their supercharger network to non-Teslas, having done a pilot in Norway.
Charging standards have been all but finalised - just about everybody has settled on CCS2 including Tesla on all cars sold outside the US. The only ones that aren't are the Nissan Leaf and the Lexus UX300e.
And Nissan will drop CHAdeMO with the release of Ariya
@Steptoe: Yup, Toyota/Lexus are the only ones out of step now, but the UX300e is an ICE platform converted to EV, I expect their next gen EV's to move to CCS2 like the BZ4X has.
Is that the wholesale price for the plug? I have a feeling we paid more last time I bought one.
First place I found selling a 'normal' 3ph 32A extension cable is $168 for 5m. Cheaper, but still pricy. They probably don't sell enough to get the economies of scale going.
https://www.electrotraders.com.au/hd-3-phase-4-pin-32-amp-ex…
Is that the wholesale price for the plug?
No, single-unit retail. Even RS is $25, Bunnings $35.
https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/industrial-power-connectors/7…
First place I found selling a 'normal' 3ph 32A extension cable is $168 for 5m
Hmmm … I guess not much demand. Maybe not for EVs either?
Huh… thanks for link, I'll try RS if we need more. We probably paid a premium for Clipsal and/or a rip off merchant.
So why is a simple EV cable so expensive??
Because they know this a market for suckers with high disposable incomes.
Not just that. If a product is niche market, then it costs more to have a small run manufacturered. Economies of scale.
It's probably due to being less popular than regular 5-core cable used for 3 phase.
The cable in this is 7-core, allowing for the pre and post signalling. The standard also allows for DC power, though I'm not sure if that would affect the manufacturing/cost of the cable.
Agreed though, there is a LOT of room for these to drop in price as EV's become more popular.
Does it support PD?
I have a 22kW cable but my car can only handle 11kW AC. I use it all the time but would recommend an 11kW cable unless your car can use 22kW. 11kW will be lighter and more flexible.
Worth noting that public 22kW AC chargers are not common
The problem with an 11kW charging cable is they are rated at only 16A/phase, so if you have an EV with max 7.2kW single phase charging like the Hyundai Kona or MG ZS, you will only be able to charge at 16A/3.7kW. 22kW charging cables can carry 32A per phase allowing full 7.2kW charging for those cars.
Of course if you have a Tesla with 3 phase charging this is a non-issue and the lighter 11kW cable would be ideal.
I thought this was a dinosaur 🦖 toy from the photo, I need my glasses checked 🦕
reading this thread it feels like i need to take a crash course in electrical engineering to buy an EV
You can get technical sure, but you don't have to. If you can keep your phone charged, you can keep an EV charged.
I've bought the cable… Now I just need a car this would fit in.
It will fit in any car.
If it doesn't fit in the car then you won't fit either.
mostly because people are animals and treat the included cord like crap so it breaks and costs the operator of the charger a fortune to keep replacing
I don't know how true this is but it's an amusing thought because if you think about the types of people who are early adopters of electric vehicles, they don't fit with this description. The alternative is that you simply have vandals, the same who break and deface deceaux installations.
Mainstream Ev's are coming up on 10 years and Shell has only just opened its first charging station.
EV "refuelling" is a different game to petrol. Petrol is a 10min exercise. EVs is about charging when you are sleeping, at work, shops etc. It isnt an extra process, you just need to integrate it into your day.
The later (shops/ malls) is where the private industry has an opportunity. Ie. Woolies rent out all their carparks to shell/ Nissan/ BMW whoever. They install vast arrays of solar. Then charge a small fee while at the shops. Dealers/ manufacturers are going to lose their servicing and parts income streams and will need to pivot.
The main point here is its not the governments job to put in infrastructure.