Haval Jolion Premium from $23,990 Driveaway, Hybrid HEV from $27,990 (EXP) Driveaway @ GWM

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GWM has reduced the price of the Jolion hybrid to under $28k for both private & ABN buyers, the cheapest it has ever been. The price of the petrol Jolion has also been reduced to under $24k after four months. Petrol Jolion offer extended to 31st December.

One of the cheapest brand new hybrid SUVs available with good features for the price and more interior space than other Chinese competitors at this price point. Sporty look compared to the regular petrol Jolion.

$495 for metallic Black, Red, Blue or Grey paint.

  • 5.1L/100km fuel economy combined. 91 RON compatible

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Comments

  • +1

    is it woth $4k extra for Hybrid ?? i mean fuel consumption is really 5.1 or 6 or 7 in real world ???

    • +61

      Yes I own it and is an amazing car. glad I went with the hybrid. spec. I fill a full tank once a month and easily can do upto 900-1000kms per month.

      • How long have you had it? How have you found the servicing experience?

        • +1

          Since jan this year. Have only done the initial 1000kms service which was good. Will be due for the 10k service soon.

      • It runs on battery alone around town?

    • +11

      $6k buys a lot of petrol, and the boot in the hybrid on these is horribly compromised.

      • +8

        Yeah about 3000liters+ for 1.899per litre.

        And with that much fuel and 8liter/100km for non hybrids it would take you about ~39500kms

        • +16

          Think about the difference in fuel milages, if the hybrid is about 950km per tank like the above comment said, 55L tank get refilled 50L, then it's 5.3L/100km.
          The difference is 2.7L/100km and 3000 liters petrol can keep you run for 111,111 kms before it's even out.

          • +79

            @mily: Hybrid is much more faster, more refined, accelerates smoother, uses very little physical brakes so no rotor and pad changes for 250,000km or more. Engine is less stressed, gearbox is less stressed so they last forever (At least that is what the data shows for Hybrid assisted cars in the last 3 decades for Toyota Hybrids). The biggest wear and tear on ICE cars is the standing start to 30km/h acceleration. In a Hybrid car, that 0 - 30km/h is almost all the time in electric mode so that is a massive load off the engine and gearbox. When you brake, 90% is regen brakes using the motor instead of physical brakes and the last 10% is physical brakes (unless you stomp on the brakes in an emergency situation than it's 100% physical brakes). Thus brakes and rotors last the lifetime of the car in many situations. There are other benefits to the Hybrid then just fuel savings.

            • +3

              @Dollar Dreamer: yeah I second that. the Jolion HEV was a smoother drive and more capable when I test drove earlier this year.

            • +6

              @Dollar Dreamer: My 5yo Corolla Hybrid sedan is still on like 90% brakes (10% wear) after 50k/kms. Also depends on the driving style too.

              Unfortunately there might be hybrid floggers out there.

              • +3

                @netjock: My 12 yo Prius C is on 60% brakes (from original purchase new late 2013) - the Brake mode is how i brake, and foot brakes in a toyota hybrid are just for the final stop or sudden braking Looking to upgrade choices- new Corolla Cross, Yaris Cross, Honda HRV (wrote that off because only tyre repair kit, no temporary spare). Got excited with the Jolion Ulra - well specd - but test drive left me sorely dissapointed, averaging 5.9l for city/hill drive (compared with Yaris cross 3.6l and corolla cross 4.2l) And there is no gear shift, instead some stupid circular know you turn . Also these have a spy cam constantly watching you - with reactionary screen alerts and beeping) no temp spare tyre and a non-intuitive screen operating system. It is very well priced, and they told me a new generation is due mid next year, so they'll be flogging these off . Toyota hybrid is great, but has become way overpriced

          • +1

            @mily: But what about the trips you're gonna make to the servo? And what about the coffees you're gonna get while you're at the servo? And the lollies they're tryna get you to buy?

      • +8

        The driving experience in the hybrid is night and day difference, based on a test drive. This May be a consideration besides fuel economy.

        • I agree. Even the V6 3.5 is nothing like a hybrid for city driving.

      • +2

        But it’s $4k not 6.

        • +3

          Correct, for the extra $4k it drives better, saves petrol, and has a better resell value - it’s a no brainer!

          You just have to learn to deal with the smaller boot and no spare tyre

          • @freeb1e4me: GWM dealer I know told me that resell value on hybrids isn't that great as majority of people don't want to buy a second hand "EV"

            They just buy new or low ball

            • +1

              @Danstar:

              resell value on hybrids isn't that great …

              There’s a lot wrong with that statement. Firstly, hybrids are not a EV per se. Secondly, hybrids currently have the highest resell value - it fairs better than petrol and full ev (Bev).

              Resell value becomes a mute point if you plan to drive the vehicle to death

              • @freeb1e4me: Chinese EV/HEV's

                More so, if you're not planning on keeping the HEv for a long period, the extra cost of the car, versus the savings of fuel won't be gained. Also the resale value won't match the extra cost of the initial purchase.

                • @Danstar: Compare the resell value with the corresponding Chinese petrol vehicle and you will realise what I meant by better resell value

                  Personally, I would just get a Japanese hybrid or a Chinese BEV if you’re looking to drop $40k

                  • @freeb1e4me: I'm just stating what a friend of mine who is a GWM salesperson said.

                    The $4-6kk extra spend on the HEV, doesn't mean you will get $4-6k extra if you sell.

                    Looking at carsales means nothing, majority of people over price their second hand vehicles

                    • @Danstar:

                      The $4-6kk extra spend on the HEV, doesn't mean you will get $4-6k extra if you sell.

                      It’s $4k extra for the HEV…

                      Everything you said is spot on so just get the Haval Jolion petrol version

                    • @Danstar: But you will already have at least part of that in fuel savings, and potentially maintenance cost savings also.

    • +20

      I've driven both and from a pure driving perspective, the hybrid is far more enjoyable to drive, because of the extra torque

      • +1

        Thats true in most cases

      • Does the hybrid includes steam ham?

    • +7

      I have a H6 hybrid and drove a petrol H6 as a hire car. Fuel consumption is 5.7L vs 8.7L (suburban driving most of the time). At low to mid speed, the hybrid is much better to drive. I would definitely pay 4k extra for the hybrid if you plan to own it long term.

      On the other hand, if you do mostly freeway / country road driving you probably wouldn't get too much benefit.

      One more thing to consider is the styling. Petrol Jolion has a completely different chassis from the hybrid.

      • +3

        I drive corolla cross hybrid and can vouch it's amazing fuel economy at highway speeds as well. I get roughly 4L/100 km in urban, and 5L/100 km on highways at 110 km/h. Plus it does 0 to 100 km/h in just over 7 seconds (pretty close to that of model Y). What else would you expect? You got to love hybrids.

        • +7

          Corolla hybrid's fuel economy is the gold standard and won't be beaten for a while. Shame that Toyota prices (new or used) are through the roof. I couldn't really justify paying like 60k for a rav4.

          • @MadMaxBargainRoad: It's true, they are expensive. I personally like them so didn't mind paying extra considering the resale value, less depreciation, 10 year warranty, top tier safety ADAS, amazing pick up power etc in mind but if my budget was around 28K, then this GWM would have made a lot of sense.

        • Is this real life at the pump numbers or calculated?

          • +2

            @Niaq00: These are real-life figures. Obviously odometer shows a bit less 3.8 L/100 km urban and 4.8 L/100 km highways (not too far off). Funny thing is my small corolla hatchback (also hybrid) gives very similar figures. This shows how Toyota has progressed with their efficient engines. Corolla cross having 2.0 L engine, better performance 7.5S for 0-100 km/h with larger bulkier body, heavier with larger wheels plus tiny little hybrid battery (0.6 kwh) vs Corolla small hatch with 1.8 L engine, smaller aero dynamic body, lighter car with larger hybrid battery (1.6 kwh), pretty much same fuel economy…!! I don't know how they did it but corolla cross is amazingly fuel economical while being larger and faster. Go figure LOL. I love both cars, though.

        • -1

          Standard model Y does 4.8 seconds 0-100

          • @serpserpserp: I think you're quoting the new model Y. My Corolla cross was 2023, so the research at the time was against 2023 model Y which in fact does only 6.9 seconds (at least that's what a quick google search tells me). And I've surprised quite a few model Y drivers off the line (who obviously had no clue of this humble-looking hybrid) LOL.

    • -6

      Resale in 5+ years makes it worth every cent. Good luck flogging an ICE car then, unless it's a collectable. Even a 4WD diesel would be a better purchase now.

      • +11

        living up to your name!

        • Western Sydney boi?

      • -3

        Long live the ford ranger

      • GL trying to flog an second hand (Chinese) EV/HEV

        • In 5+ years, good luck selling an ICE car.

          Unleaded will be pricey. BEVs will be plentiful and preferred as distance and charging won't be an issue.

          Only bush people will want diesel for long KMS and BEV less infrastructure and diesel will probably still be subsidised.

          • +1

            @Big L: Wasn't the same thing said 5 years ago?

            ICE cars will be around for longer than EV fans think

            • @Danstar: Not shit ones. In 5 years only the stubborn or stupid will see merit in buying an ICE car for the next 5+.

    • +3

      no petrol car is worth it these days.

    • -1

      These questions can be answered by AI easily, just ask and find your answers ! Of course it depends on the price difference, petrol price, and also depreciation, and how many km you drive per year.

      • most people are distrusting of AI and couldnt really use it anyway

        ok here's what my server said:

        it takes about 7 years for you to recoup costs - so your warranty period

        i did this on $1.75 and 10,000km pa

        of course more expensive petrol and more km will drop it extensively

        i used manufacture figs and obviously do not take into account driveabillity or insurance or service

        this is same sad story of hybrids… you dont recoup the cost back while in warranty in avg. conditions

        move to EV

    • At the expense of being overtaken from aggressive trucks and utes. Spend that extra money for more drivability.

    • +1

      It'd be worth paying 4k for the hybrid even if the fuel economy was the same or slightly worse, hybrids are so much nicer to drive.

    • +1

      Petrol use torsion beam rear suspension vs HEV use multi-link rear suspensions as per brochure they have on the website.
      Obviously multi-link suspension is more comfortable, but it cost more. This is also worth consider if compare these two models.

      • Yaris Cross, Corolla Cross and Rav 4 2WD versions all have torion beam rear suspension

    • I am saving at least $50 a week since I got my hybrid jolion, my old car was a Mazda cx7. I don’t drive on the highway much but I do a lot of driving and if anyone just wants to duck to the shops they always take my car. I was hesitant to buy one but after a few of my neighbours bought them and loved them I decided to buy one, they don’t all have the jolion they mainly have the bigger ones I think H6 (I don’t need the bigger car). The boot is fine, my luggage fits in there and my shopping. Two of my sons who are both over 6 foot have no problems sitting in the back seats. The only problem/ thing I hate is no spare tyre, you get a thing to pump your tyre up and a patch repair kit but no spare. Found out the hard way after running over a vape that exploded and melted my tyre through to the tube.

    • +1

      I got the H6 ultra hybrid for a $6k premium over the petrol and it's definitely worth it. Fuel wise you are saving about 40% so at 12,000km/year that's $700/year which is a 6 year payback period but the driving experience is so much better. The car is amazingly smooth, it's a gateway car to a fully EV one when they become affordable in the future.

  • +30

    Damn hybrid SUV under 28K that is unreal.

    • +28

      china number 1

      • +35

        10 ccp social points for you!

        • i mean is anyone else doing it?

          maybe the suzuki fronx? but thats super shit very mild almost not hybrid

          the indians?

          may as well go full ev at this rate

        • +2

          CCP is propaganda by the west/media.

          REAL Gs know it's actually CPC

          I only accept CPC points.

        • lol this guy

    • +13

      What's your basis for this assessment? Or just xenophobia?

      • -7

        Lol stop with the buzzwords Mr MGS5 fan, they don't affect me lol.

        • +3

          Add more lols next time

    • +3

      Reminds me of tarrif king of America

    • +21

      Buy Australian car!

      • +13

        😂😂😂😂😂

      • +2

        Isn't GWM Australian now that they brought testing ground and Australian engineering team

        • toyota have testing grounds and a huge engineering teams and factories in america

          toyota is not really america though (not enough shit cars…. and random gunfire)

    • +39

      Japanese cars were junk in the 60s. Korean cars were junk in the 90s. Chinese cars were junk in the 2010s.

      The market has moved on and now Chinese cars can be very good quality for a great price.

      • +4

        Agree they can be. And increasingly. BUT, they still make plenty of garbage. Especially when it comes to ICE models. Its perfectly reasonable for your average joe to be cautious of chinese cars still as it is a mine field if you care about longevity.

      • In Chinese business, most have shown a tendency towards short-term gain over long-term gain. Xiaomi is one of them, aggressive marketing tactics on a piece of junk that will burn you alive. So the takeaway is, do your research.

    • I just simply not fan of CCP supporting mass murderer Putin

      • +35

        So US cars are out too.

        • +2

          nobody wants US cars either

          • +1

            @Aldonis: haha that's big diff

            putin and modi and xi meet as equals

            putin and trump? kinda master slave there…. ramsay bolton and reek

      • +6

        it's just a business deal

        China will never forget how the USSR treated them… now Russia has the biggest debt financially to China

      • +5

        you think the west is so innocent?

        • +1

          Comparing apples to tomatoes. One does not make the other any less appauling either.

      • What about their support for Kim Jong Un or Iranian president?

        China, Russia, North Korea and Iran are utopian countries which are gold standard of civil freedoms and human rights./s

        You're just jealous mate.

      • +5

        What about mass murderer netanyahu

      • Europe still buying a lot of oil and gas just fyi. Even going to the extent of paying premium for refined Russian crude from India.

    • +14

      Have you seen the reliabilitiy ratings of

      Jeep
      VW
      BMW
      Mercedes
      Land/range rover

      ….

      • -7

        While yall above me take the bait so easily, I know jack shit about Chinese cars, come on man stop feeding into ragebait, we are our own problems I swear.

        • +6

          Makes comment to bait people into downvoting. Gets downvotes. "Guys stop downvoting me it was just a joke you guys are so sensitive"

          • -1

            @Wzzfzz: Bingo

            Number 1 victim

            • -4

              @Drakesy: Not a victim, just thought I'd test the waters with some people, it worked ngl. 😏

          • -5

            @Wzzfzz: I was expecting the downvotes though so your comeback is mute, part of the point actually and this reply will also get downvotes cause feelings, badge of honour honestly.

    • +1

      Basically what all the old people said about Japanese cars back in the day, look at us now.

    • +1

      Whether you like or dislike Chinese cars, you should appreciate and benefit from the competition they bring, as it pushes other brands to offer better prices and products.

  • +24

    Just think, a new Yaris with hubcaps and short 5-year warranty will set you back $34,000….

    • must be Tarriff….

    • +3

      Just got back from China

      How was your trip?

    • +10

      Seems like you were in Melbourne CBD.

    • +6

      There is a larger gulf between the portion of people that can afford a car in a city in China (assuming that's where you went in China, because it is MUCH worse in country China) and those that can not. Those that can afford a car in a Chinese city are relatively much wealthier than those than can afford a car in Australia. So a larger portion of Chinese car buyers can afford a higher priced car than those that can in Australia. — edit for reference: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S038611121…

    • Around 150 car makers in Japan now (some are joint venture with Euro/Japanese brands) - the market share of Chinese cars has jumped a lot in the last 12 months from 54% to about 65% but I think there is still some prestige to having a "foreign" car, even if it is made in Shanghai

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