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10% off Sitewide + Delivery + Surcharge @ Shopping Express (Crucial MX500 1TB SATA 2.5" SSD $112.45 Delivered (OOS))

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  • +3

    This looks really cheap: 10400 + good b560m motherboard $269
    https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/bundle-intel-core-i5-…

    • Although for around $100 extra bucks you could get the 12100F + B660 motherboard (~170 + 200)

  • A shame shopping express aren't included in the Rainbow 6 promotion with Samsung SSDs, 2TB 970 Evo Plus for $260 is a pretty good price but would be even better with a raainbow 6 extraction code (from this deal - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/681751 )

    • +3

      "K.S. COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY" is Shopping Express (and Futu Online, and a bunch of other eBay storefronts)

      • +2

        Today I learned a thing, thanks!

  • Can the MX500s be used in a Synology NAS? Want to replace my energy sucking, noisy HDDs.

    • That depends on the Synology model number.

    • synology has a compatibility list on their website
      https://www.synology.com/en-au/compatibility

      • Damn, not in there. Thanks anyway

        • +1

          i wouldnt recommend using a consumer grade ssd in a nas anyway (and personally wouldn't use an ssd at all imo)

          • +1

            @skysailz: Use ssd in NAS without RAID should be fine.

    • +1

      Surely a SATA SSD with a 3.5” HDD adapter will work in a NAS.

      • +2

        It's an SSD. I've traditionally just blu-tac'd them in wherever's convenient :D

  • +1

    Maybe one day the shipping won't kill the deals

    • +1

      It's free shipping

      • Only for Crucial branded items, for other items it comes up with $9.90 shipping cost for Sydney suburbs.

        • +1

          Also on graphics cards plus the various Intel CPUs, motherboards and bundles thereof. So assuming you grab Crucial RAM and storage, that's 5/7ths of a PC eligible for free shipping at least, which is a solid foundation to start a build with.

        • Just brought a 10% MSI GPU on its own, and FREE SHIPPING APPLIED, go nuts lads.

  • This is awesome, just pulled trigger for 2TB NVME SSD for PS5,

    https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/gigabyte-aorus-gen4-7…

  • Dangit! Just bought the MX500 for $130 somewhere else :(

    • Hand over your ozbargain membership!

      • I bought it before this post was made - wish I waited! Alas.

        • Sorry mate. It's Monday and the old human instinct, to make someone else feel a bit of pain with you, kicked in 😬

  • the sale also includes GPUs, just checked by putting a couple in my cart

  • also, there is a minimum spend of $100 to get the discount

  • +1

    Any bundles for 12th Gen CPUs with a mini itx board? I can’t seem to find any

  • the 2tb MX500 is that a good price?

    • +1

      anything under 235 is a good price for 2TB MX500 imo

  • bought some parts! thanks :)

  • Any recommendations on 32GB DDR4 RAM? I currently have Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 16GB 3200MHz, but with my CPU fan I don't think there's room to fit in another 2 sticks - might be better swapping it out for 2 x 16GB instead.

    • +1

      If you don't need RGB this is a good price for Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL16 DDR4 - $214 delivered after discount

      • Perfect, thanks!

    • +1

      A little wrinkle with the Crucial DDR4 is that their 16GB sticks are single-rank. This means to extract optimal performance from them, you need to run four sticks which defeats your intentions. Yes, the Crucial is 3600MHz CL16, but being single-rank means the gains over cheaper 3200MHz CL16 or 3600MHz CL18 RAM are wiped out.

      The net result is that I'd probably either go for the cheapest 2x16GB kit, being the $169 (before discount) G.Skill Aegis, or to actually see a performance gain, albeit only on the order of 2-3%, the $289 G.Skill Trident Z Neo. To be honest I wouldn't buy the faster kit from Shopping Express as you can get the very similar Kingston Fury Renegade for $229 from Umart (or $239 free shipping from Scorptec) instead if you do want dual-rank 3600C16 RAM.

      • So that above mentioned Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL 16 DD4 for $214 is only single-rank?

        • +1

          Unless it's very old stock, it will be single-rank, yes. Crucial (Micron) transitioned to the double density memory chips somewhere between one and two years ago. The denser chips mean they can use half as many on each 16GB stick of RAM, which partly explains their price advantage over the competitors, but it also comes at a performance cost.

          Note that over the past year or so, the new chips will have also have made it into Micron's customer companies such as Corsair, ADATA, Kingston and various smaller companies who don't manufacture their own chips. However as those companies source from multiple manufacturers (Micron, Samsung and Hynix), it means only some of their products are affected, whereas all Crucial products are affected.

          • @mystarey: Do you know which part on the specification for RAM that can tell us if it is single or dual rank?

            • +2

              @edfoo: Some manufacturers are more forthcoming about it than others, so you can sometimes check their spec pages or their datasheets. Kingston for example are very transparent about it, they even have a filter on their page where you can select 8Gbit or 16Gbit modules. 8Gbit modules on a 16GB stick means it's dual-rank. Sometimes you may need to calculate it out based on the provided info, the datasheet here for the RAM I recommended earlier for example mentions "sixteen 1G components": as 1GB = 8Gbit, you can infer that it's dual-rank. Actually, just knowing it's 16 chips also tells you that, because they can only physically fit eight chips per side.

              For some other brands that are more evasive about it, sometimes you can see whether a model is single- or double-sided on motherboard QVLs. Failing that, you'd just have to Google and hope someone on some forum knows, which may be difficult for some rarer brands/models.

          • @mystarey: Received my kit today. Dual rank. FYI.

            • @stingyAF: Interesting. How can you tell?

              • @edfoo: 8 chips either side of the dimm.

                • @stingyAF: Cheers. I guess mystarey has it wrong all these time then.

                  • @edfoo: As mentioned before, both versions do exist so it's pot luck to some degree, though as it's been well over a year since the introduction of the new single-rank variant, it's a big risk unless you're buying in person and can see the exact extended model number. That is, stores will just list the main product code which is "BL2K16G36C16U4B" or somesuch. But there's a suffix that you can see on the sticker affixed directly onto the sticks that gives more information.

                    From this Reddit thread

                    If it says M16FE1 at the end of the part number, that means it's dual rank rev.E. M8FB1 means single rank rev.B.

                    M8FE1 should be single rank rev.E. The M8/M16 means it has 8/16 memory chips and only 8 chips can fit on each side. I'm guessing you have an 8 gb stick since rev. E chips are 1 gb each.

                    EDIT: An example photo showing the extended product code of a single-rank 16GB stick.

      • I've since done a quick test to see if a stick would fit in the first slot, and it looks like it should - just.

        It might still be worth me switching to 2 x 16GB though? And these are some good points to keep in mind. I'm not looking for max performance, it's mostly because 16GB doesn't always seem to cut it (AOE 4 complains about not having enough RAM with my excessive browser tabs.. ha!). I'm not sure if my current ram is single or dual-rank, or how much this ultimately impacts performance as 2 or 4 sticks.

        • If you use 8GB sticks then the above explanations are irrelevant, any modern 8GB DDR4 stick will be single-rank. Therefore 2x8GB will never get you the dual-rank performance boost but any 4x8GB setup always will.

          So yeah, if you can fit in two additional sticks that match your existing ones, it'll perform the same as buying a new 2x16GB dual-rank kit (such as the various G.skill kits).

      • I don't know anything, but is single vs dual rank a concern with DDR5?

        • +1

          It's not a practical consideration for most people because for DDR5, all of the memory manufacturers are shipping 16Gbit chips. This means all 16GB DDR5 sticks are single-rank and for the end user, this means that unless you run 64GB minimum, you're not going to get dual-rank going. Spending $800 on RAM just to get a couple percent performance increase is just not on the table for reasonable folk, especially since Intel 12th gen benefits less from it than AMD or previous Intel generations.

          • @mystarey: Oh I see, so to maximise RAM performance, I'd need to fill all 4 slots. Can the same be theoretically done with 8GB modules if they are fast/high quality?

            I did read something, very, very briefly with a glance, that the Alder Lake DDR5 controllers are a bit weird, and that more sticks tend to slow it down. I honestly didn't read it fully, but you're really knowledgeable so I'd thought I'd ask anyways.

            • +1

              @dealhunt3r: To be honest, the newest stuff is a bit beyond my knowledge because I'm mostly repeating what I learned when I built my Ryzen PC a year or so ago. However, it does seem that Igor's Lab has a pretty good article about Alder Lake memory quirks. Notable in the conclusion:

              Now there is still the question of the ideal ranks. And yes, with both RAM generations on the new Alder Lake platform, dual-rank operation still brings a measurable increase. However, this is somewhat lower than in previous Intel generations, mainly due to the now larger L3 cache and the already more efficient two memory controllers. Since more ranks are always accompanied by a higher load for the memory controller(s) and thus often lower clock rates, the net performance maximum of single and dual rank should probably be pretty identical with this generation.

              That is, the relatively immature platform is probably limiting opportunities to optimise for the time being.

              • @mystarey: Makes sense for all the new technology. Thank you for the knowledge! I'll give that article a read now.

    • rather this 2x16 and a extremely simple overclock. https://www.amazon.com.au/Crucial-Ballistix-Unbuffered-PC4-1…
      or 2 of these https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/crucial-ballistix-16g… for even better performance as u have dual rank

  • +1

    Thanks OP. Bought few items for work.

  • Same price for mx500 and p2. Which do you guys recommend? Heard the qlc on p2 isn't great.

    • +1

      Depends on your usage. I wouldn't use a QLC drive as the only drive in a system, but definitely fine for read-often, write-seldom scenarios. I've got the p1 (also qlc) and haven't had any problems - but its a 99% read/1% write usage scenario (steam, games, flac, etc).

      If your use case is similar, then the better latency and bandwidth on the nvme drive is better than anything on SATA. But you'll most probably not notice the difference.

    • +1

      Just in case you're not taking advantage of free shipping because you're buying other things too, the Kingston A2000 is a great price after discount for just $9 more.

      (But if you're paying shipping for just that then forget it and buy the even-better KC2500 from Centrecom for $135, a genuine high-end drive until very recently)

  • Crucial P5 Plus 1TB 6600MB/s PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD $189.71 delivered @ Amazon UK via AU… If the $13 savings means a lot :)

  • I have to replace a samsung 850 EVO 250GB boot drive. would any of the listed choices for ~$100 be better?

    • +1

      The Crucial MX500 would be a good choice for a boot drive, as it has DRAM cache

  • Damn it, I'm really torn on RAM right now.

    I've got an older 2x8GB kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 CL16 (v5.39, so Hynix M-die; old stuff), and there are times when 16GB feels like it's not quite enough these days.

    So I kind of want to upgrade and I don't think I'm going to find many 5 y.o. kits of Corsair RAM to get a matched pair to upgrade to 4x8GB, meaning a straight replacement is probably my best bet. Something like this 2x16GB Kingston Fury Renegade 3600 CL16 kit for $239 would fit the bill.

    When I do a new build, I typically keep my last-gen hardware around as a second PC for running home server duty (NAS, Plex, VMs/CTs, some game servers and general playing around with stuff), so my 3900X would probably take the place of my current system for that purpose. So I could go for a kit of 2x32GB Team T-Create 3600 CL18 for $349 plus shipping. At $110 more than the Kingston kit for twice the capacity at slightly lower performance, that doesn't seem so bad in terms of being able to run a bunch more stuff or just allocating more memory to ZFS.

    But with the sunset of DDR4 on the horizon, prices will start to trend upwards soon as DDR5 manufacturing takes precedence and DDR4 supply runs out, especially once AMD launches AM5 and Ryzen 7000, so I'd be better off getting as much capacity as I need now rather than hoping to slot in an upgrade later. So do I just bite the bullet and go for two kits? Do I really need to spend $700+ on 128GB of RAM for a purpose that may not be used for several years? It's a damn sight better than $1000+, and not much more than a couple of kits of some real back to basics RAM…

    Ugh, dilemmas. Really wishing I didn't miss out on this deal.

    • that 2x16gb 3600 c16 kit is bogged af 16-20-20-20, not b die and havent (profanity) with ram in ages so forgot what that likely is.
      and that 2x32gb kit at 3600 c18 is very usable
      but buying 2 and runing 4x32 3600 c18 quad rank will ram your 3900x asses imc and i doubt it will run stable at that speed.

      better off buying 2x(2x16) of some of this ballistix https://www.amazon.com.au/Crucial-Ballistix-Unbuffered-PC4-1…
      so it will be 4x16 dual rank 3200 c16 which is very easy to run.

      • Yeah, like I say, kicking myself that I missed when that Ballistix kit was $138.17. Would have been ideal to grab two kits then, and with Micron announcing the end of the Ballistix brand, it may not go that cheap again (but we'll see).

  • Wo, nice price for Samsung 980 pro

  • Nice! Just spec'ed and ordered a whole new Lightroom/Photoshop rig with 12th Gen i7, 32GB DDR4, FireCuda 530 and RTX 3050.
    Been eyeing off buying or holding…saving $300 is good enough reason.

  • Any better value deal than a Samsung Evo 970 plus 1tb for $155?

      • Wow that does look awesome, thanks. Might go with that. You seem to know your stuff, can you recommend any changes to my parts list?

        Trying to build a GPU-less desktop for general use, DAW music/audio use, and future gaming when prices (hopefully) go down on a 2/3060 in a year or two. Tossing up between i3 12100 / i5 12400, but probably the latter.

        https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/ArtVandelay2/saved/#view=LC…

        • Its a private list I can't c it

          • @abjsdhasehasee: Sorry. Got an updated one now anyway. https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7XWzMb
            Close to pulling trigger. Think it works out to be $885 for 12600k no gpu build. Using my old case and PSU, not sure the exact model, hopefully it fits ok.

            • @JoeSchmogan: ye looks good, cant talk about how good motheboard is as i only know about b550/x570. when u get a gpu u 100% need a newer and better PSU.
              if anything look into some arctic fans for better cooling

              o and u prob want a better cooler for a 12600k id presume. havent really looked into 12th gen that much but id assume that it produces shit tons of heat a h212 is prob a bit yikes for that

            • @JoeSchmogan: I can't tell which version of the Hyper 212 you're getting because the item in the list doesn't match the SE pricing, but just make sure you either get a newer revision that supports LGA1700 out-of-the-box, or to buy the LGA1700 bracket separately if not. Cooler Master don't appear to be one of the companies sending out the brackets for free.

              Looking at the SE listings it is kind of awkward actually. The Turbo version is better (dual-fan) and cheaper but will likely require the $19 bracket to be purchased. The single-fan versions on the other hand appear to have the bracket included. So you end up paying about $10 more for the Turbo with bracket if you want the extra performance of the second fan. I reckon it's worth it personally, the 12600K is a hot beast.

              Besides that, everything looks fine and it should fit into your case no problem. The PSU if it's not too old should be sufficient for a future 3060 / 6600 calibre video card too, though anything above that starts to get a bit iffy.

              • @mystarey: Hey thanks for the detailed response. I ended up getting a slightly different build. Worried about the quality/reliability issues on gigabyte boards. Was going to go for a cheaper / b660m board, but theyre really not much less. Or if they are, dont have enough ports etc.

                $895 with an MSI board, thought it was worth the extra ~$60 with wifi included. I got the ID-COOLING SE-224-XT, on sale atm so got it for $45inc shipping.
                Seems to perform really well. So $940 all up. Hopefully the GPU gods can bring prices down 50% in the next year or so.

  • Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti EAGLE OC 8G (rev. 2.0) 8GB GDDR6
    $944.10 before delivery at cart.
    https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-…

  • The Intel Core i9-12900K CPU + Gigabyte AORUS WATERFORCE X 360 AIO 360mm ARGB Cooler bundle listed here is ~$899 during this sale. (The free shipping code stacks as well.)

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/683157

    The AIO essentially becomes free at this price? That's how I'm justifying it in my brain.

    Edit: Well, it seems Jack has noticed this and raised the base to $1049

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