Howdy
We have a batch of the 8th Gen 7060's available
Dell 7060 Micro
Intel i5 8500t 2.10Ghz
8Gb Ram
256Gb SSD
AC Wifi + Bluetooth
Win 10 Pro
It looks like they all have a single 8Gb stick and an NVME on the board, so there is room for expansion, but I can't guarantee it. If you wish to have this specifically, just leave a note on your order :)
i miss the times where whole bunch of deals on hp microservers that you could just stick heaps of HDDs into that are sub $200.
You mean HP Gen8 Microserver? Forget it, too much work need to be done thereafter. CPU, fans, cables, specail RAMs……
That was part of the fun!
I'm still using my Gen7 N36L.. any good suggestions to mount multiple HDDs to these micro PCs?
Hotway/Icybox/Orico multi-drive enclosure
Is it full?
What drives do you want to add?
I have a gen10. Normal memory is fine, you don't have to use ECC memory. I think it's a great little device.
Please note the front USB-C port does not support ALT mode, which means it does not support video out from USB-C.
They don't seem to have HDMI Outs (only DP), in case it matters to someone
Easy enough fix though (I had this issue a few months back). Bought a DP to HDMI cable for $12 from Amazon. Works a treat!
You can also buy daughter boards which sit above the ethernet port
Was not aware of that. Thanks, sounds useful.
@cryptowiz: DP port:
https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/dell-additional-dp-video-por…
HDMI port:
https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/dell-additional-hdmi-video-p…
That's what you're after
I have done this, works fine.
I've too many HDMI cables, so I just bought an DP to HDMI adapter plug on ebay for $5 last time
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/133411352689?var=432830102149
I bought one but sound from monitor does not work most of the time.
You may need an 'active' DP to HDMI adapter
@slackme: OK, try this 'active' DP to HDMI adapter for $12. https://www.amazon.com.au/Wavlink-Display-Adapter-MacOS-Wind…
@JimB: I used the cable on the PC just bought, sound passed to the monitor without problem so likely the old version of DP port?
@browser: It's pretty small at 40mm.
Not sure if there are any female DP to male HDMI active adapters.
I agree that the male DP to female HDMI adapter that had say a 30cm flexible cable would take up less space.
@Nom: I think that's better than the one I linked as it's less likely to get damaged at the back of the PC.
In my case, I'd still stick to the one without the cable as it's less than half price.
How good is this for plex server?
Should be OK, I have a Plex server with much lower spec along with Home Assistant on the same machine (Optiplex 9020).
Luxury! I have both on an ancient Celeron NUC :-) (no realtime HD transcode needed)
Plex uses Quicksync for server-side transcode, 8500T is Coffee Lake so you should have great performance on H264/H265 content. VP9/AV1 and HEVC 12bit will most likely fall back to software.
Just been looking at this, HEVC 10bit should work but 12bit wont.
I use a Raspi4 and it works fine for at least 3 x 1080p streams.
Just dont transcode. Direct play only.
Should be more than enough. I run Plex on a HP Microserver N40L. However I mainly direct stream and don't depend on transcode. Plex running on TrueNAS. NAS drives for storage (8GB x5, SSD for config and OS drive).
If I never had the N40L then I'd look at one of those cube cases and a mobo with a bunch of SATA ports.
Hell yeah! Another N40L user here :). Good to see there's still a few of us around hehe. Mine runs Plex (direct play only) on Windows Server 2012, and all different size drives hehe
Fine if you're not transcoding 4k. Need an i7 minimum for that.
can you fit a full 3.5" hard drive in the case?
No. only 2.5" or NVME
oooh, NVME. earlier generations were m.2 sata only, no?
Nope.
You'd think that this would be perfect for use as a plex server. All you need is some 4TB or 5TB external portable hard drives. It does have 4 x usb 3.1 ports on the rear.
Or if you're insane like me, get a JMB585 M.2 to 5 port SATA adapter and plug it into an external 5 bay HDD DAS array.
Set it up with Proxmox, virtualise a NAS OS with direct SATA passthrough to the HDDs and use whatever file system you like - instead of relying on bodgy USB ports.
It's a monstrosity with SATA wires coming out of a dremel'd case, but it's a 5-bay NAS the size of a six-pack and which kicks the shit out of a Synology, and it's half the price
I love your approach.
Perhaps someone could design a 3D-printed adapter to integrate HDD NAS box with this for a cleaner look.
My USB external drive does play up like 2-4 times a year, while a reboot of the whole hypervisor fixes it it is definitely not the most reliable.
Which NAS OS do you run?
Honestly I'm still figuring that out - currently spinning up TrueNAS Scale and OMV VMs to get an idea of what I like.
I'm still new to this level of data administration, so I'm trying to figure out if ZFS makes sense, or if I should go with a RAID config, or SnapRaid + MergeFS.
Per my previous comment, it'd be a lot smarter to use something like a Pi or Odroid HC4 as a dumb SBC NAS and leave the compute for the SFFpc.
Nice
I've been thinking of doing something like this tbh. NAS performance seems pretty terrible for the price, and I've already got everything I need set up through Docker on a microserver so how hard can it be to add a DAS?
Hadn't heard of the m.2 adapter, but that definitely beats using a USB connector imo! Got any links for the adapter and DAS you're using?
The research was the hardest part - because somewhat suprisingly, not many people have thought of doing something like this. So it took a ton of googling to plan it out and find the most cost effective path.
And honestly it would probably make more sense to use a dumb SBC as a NAS (i.e oDroid HC4 or Pi) and leaving compute to the SFFpc.
For the adapter, just search ebay/aliexpress for "JMB585 m.2". JMB585's are known good SATA controller chips that come recommended by the unraid community, although usually in PCI-E form.
If you're feeling that the $30-40 ebay cards are a bit risque, there are other brand name options -
- $40 - Seeed 103990543
- $90 - IO Crest IO-M2F585-5I
- $110 (unknown, it was just released and not stocked anywhere) - Silverstone ECS07
Personally I just grabbed the questionable generic ones, and grabbed two spares for good measure. $80 all up.
If you're feeling especially adventurous, you could go with a m.2 to PCI-E adapter, and use a full blown LSI HBA card in IT mode. That would effectively give you infinite disks.
As for the SATA backplane, I went with a used Kingwin MKS-535TL ($130). There are plenty of other manufacturers such as Silverstone, Icy Box etc who make similar enclosures. Search for "3 into 5 backplane" or "5.25 hotswap" and you'll find other options, probably a lot cheaper on AliExpress if you're willing to wait.
Importantly, these sorts of devices need either SATA or Molex power as they're definitely not going to spin 5 disks with your SFFpc. Search for "SATA IDE power supply" or "Molex IDE power supply" - they're just a power supply brick with a molex out. This is the one good case you could make for using Molex>SATA - if you're shucking drives with 3.3v (i.e WD EasyStores), a Molex>Sata adapter will eliminate the 3.3v pin so no f**king around with kapton tape.
Can you get one with 5 port sata and an M.2 slot?
This is awesome - but USB also works absolutely fine with one of these sitting under the machine https://www.ple.com.au/Products/631062/ORICO-8-Bay-35-inch-U…
8 bays is plenty.
Edit - Amazon reviews for this particular model aren't great, it seems to have poor cooling. So if you're looking at a drive enclosure, maybe don't buy that exact Orico one 😁
Funny, I was going to build something similar with my existing nuc to replace my 10yr old HP n36l. But I won an ebay auction today, so I'll build a proper server instead.
Glad to know that it works..
these go well with MFS18 stands…
no hdmi :(
dp > hdmi
In general, yeah but not every display has DP input
easy to get passive DP->HDMI cable
@bargaino: doesn't need to be active. DP port is smart enough to detect the HDMI cable and change the signal it outputs. I believe its part of the DP spec. maybe there is an example of a DP port that can't do this though.
Going from HDMI>DP is harder, as its not part of the HDMI spec to be able to do DP. These cables are active in some way, and gotta be careful getting cheap crapy ones.
Well thats my experiance anyway.
@D1Vad: I was under the impression that this chipset only has HDMI1.2, not 2.0. So for say QHD 60Hz, you need an active cable to convert DP.
Regardless, a passive cable will work fine for a FHD 60Hz desktop, or UHD 24 Hz movies.
Can still use DP to HDMI cable.
[DP]==========[HDMI]
I think they meant the > to describe a DP to HDMI cable, not as a "greater than" symbol
Not all converter is equal. Better buy a direct DP to HDMI cable. Probably just my bad experience
Anyone know of a model with dual NICs? Would like one of these for a pfSense box
Without going USB you'd probably be looking at the official M2 -> SFP adapter, or something like this if you want to try getting creative
https://www.amazon.com/Crest-Interface-Gigabit-Ethernet-Modu…
Managed switch + VLAN
How many 2.5" expansion slots are there?
For those who don't want to hunt for the info it's in the System Specifications —> Storage combinations section.
The answer is 1.
Hmmm .. my URL was supposed to go there, but isn't working after i stripped the session ID.
Is the processor upgradeable to 10th or 11th generation or the motherboard will not support ,need to get this one but 8th Gen processor seems old and slow in processing ?
Sure, for $800 more you can get a dell 11th gen
Can 8th gen do W11 without tweaking?
I'm pretty sure 8th gen is the first ( oldest ) gen that is win11 compatible
Yep
What applications would a 8th gen be slow at?
If a 8th gen is too slow for your needs, then perhaps any Micro PC wouldn't be suitable anyway.
The performance jump is not worth the price jump. 8th gen is great value.
Dpi to hdmi doesn't transmit audio if you want to use this on your monitor with built in speaker.
About the only people who use built in speakers are office workers who want everyone else to know every time they get an email
I think you are confusing DP with the older DVI.
DP does have audio. Maybe some adapters don't do it properly.
Dpi to hdmi doesn't transmit audio
Incorrect. DP to HDMI with an active adaptor absolutely does audio, even the HD audio formats.
That is biggest load of stuff that comes out of bulls backside…
Anyone know what the standard use power draw for this would be, say running and idle?
Should only be a couple of watts. I've got one of these for HTPC duties, pretty much stays on 24/7
about 50watts max and idle 10-15watts
this or a raspberry pi 4 8gb hmmmm.
This is cheaper…. At least when you look for a RPi4 8gb that is actually IN STOCK.
This many times over.
Any good for a blue iris NVR box?
I use a 6th gen I5 with Blue Iris, (I only have 2 X cameras going in - but both do a 4K stream) but it is fine, so this will be straight forward.
If you can add a 2.5" drive for video storage then this should be perfect
This is a good deal and its 8th GEN CPU
Someone told me in the other thread that we won't see 8th Gen CPUs for under $300 for a fair while and here we are now!
This is the cheapest I've seen on ebay, some want $400 - $500.
Will this play old games like cs go or aoe 2 de or minecraft?
If you are able to stick a GPU in there (not sure if you can), even an older crappier one like a GT 1030, sure.
lol u cant stick a GPU in these small machines.
These are micro small form factor
Lol, true. Didn't read the 'Micro' part of the title. Integrated graphics probably won't be enough to run many games.
The Intel HD graphics are okay for older games, not sure about fps games, but I am using them for RTS games like starcraft/starcraft 2 and Portal 1 and 2 for my kids and works great!
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That's a good deal.