A really good price for the 13 mini with alot of storage! imo the best colour aswell. Ive had an eye on this phone with this colour for a while.
ONLY 5 in stock! (more on the way) get it while you can! Last mini to ever be an iPhone
Other colours with good prices too.
edit: looks like the price has dropped further! $1,097.00
CamelCamelCamel.
It has the old Gondwanaland
I am old school so I was hoping it had Rodinia
My photos and videos currently sitting at 500gb, so I need it thank you very much
Isn’t it risky to keep all your precious memories from years and years on your phone? What if you lose your phone? I regularly back up and move my photos from phone onto hard drive just to be safe.
That’s right. I regularly back up all my stuff through iCloud as well as iTunes backups and PC transfers
@usmanhafeez2000: I only pay $5 a month for 2TB through Apple Türkiye. I can sacrifice a coffee for that
@I Smell Pennies: You should have a look at IDrive Photos, I got unlimited full resolution backups from my phone for USD$0.99 for the first year, then USD$9.95 a year after that:
https://www.idrive.com/photos/
They don't link to that page anywhere on their site anymore so it might be discontinued, but worth a shot to see if you can still sign up (the sign up page is still there).
@usmanhafeez2000: You can just plug the iPhone into your computer, import to Photos app, then export to internal or external drive.
If you have the photos iCloud setting enabled, your photos are synced across all your devices and in the cloud. Most people have this enabled by default.
@RubyShoes: '*most people who have big dataplans and don't travel.
that model goes out the window when you realised you need to sync 500GB on a roaming mobile overseas.
@slowmo: Unless you are adding 500GB of data while you are traveling, that isn't the case. If you are taking lots of photos and videos, then I can see you taking a computer to back it up onto maybe. But it could be just as easy to turn it off for mobile data and go somewhere with an internet connection to upload for backup. Better that 2 physical devices that could get stolen.
@RubyShoes: i wouldn't assume that much for the variety of use-cases that people want to bring along for travels.
i know that when i travel, i easily clock over 100GB in 2 days (300 if i shoot in raw and record videos). i don't like lugging a computer around and waiting for it to 'sync' at the end of the day. if this is what you want to do, you do you.
i have a sense that either you didn't consider the logistics of travels with internet access and getting internet connection, or you are over simplifying it to support your argument.
like i said earlier, for most people, if they don't travel or have small data caps, then a smaller storage is fine.
however, if you are holding on to the phone for a longer period of time, and you see yourself travelling overseas in that period of time, having a larger storage on the phone will pay for itself massively in QoL.
feel free to disagree. travel isn't the only reason people should go for a larger phone storage.
this is despite having 2TB of icloud storage to share with my family , so i'd like to say i know what i'm talking about.
@slowmo: I think you might have got confused - I wasn't advocating for cloud storage over phone storage size. In fact, I was telling OP they were in the minority for wanting minimal phone storage.
The comment I was responding to thought that because people need large phone memory that they are ONLY keeping it on their phone and was insisting people need backups.
I was just pointing out that most people have their phones backed with iCloud so it's not "risky" like they pointed out.
Whatever someone needs to do for travel is an entirely different kettle of fish, just pointing out the person they responded to probably isn't an idiot with a single copy :)
I would say you are probably in the minority.
you never know, i like to keep a few movies on mine in case of a power outage, though with the battery life (or lack thereof) of the mini, you might not get through a whole movie.
i like to keep 200gbs worth of memes handy.
I have a 64GB iPhone 12 mini. I find it too small. But is a work issued phone and rather than have the taxpayer pay for things like downloads of music or video streaming I download content onto the phone at home to play when in the car or away from home. I also have to keep curating photos and video content to keep total used storage below 64GB.
You beat me to it, was just about to submit my post!
Anyway, if you’re happy to wait until it is restocked, the starlight version (temporarily out of stock) has the lowest price for the iPhone 13 mini 256GB model recorded on camelcamelcamel: https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B09L7Q2G2Z A great deal for those wanting to get the last mini flagship model Apple may ever produce and hold on to it for several years.
At $1036, it’s 15% off the recently reduced RRP of $1219 after the iPhone 14 series was launched (or 24% off the old RRP). That’s cheaper than the 128GB model right now ($1049 new RRP). As always, if you can access a discounted Amazon gift card from Macquarie Marketplace or the like, the final cost can be further lowered (e.g. $1004.92 w/ 3% disc).
If you prefer another colour, maybe worth checking back periodically given how often and wildly Amazon prices seem to fluctuate. The 13 mini 256GB prices for different colours currently range from $1036 for starlight to $1369 for green (which is in stock but at the old RRP, so more expensive than buying directly from Apple).
No guarantee but Amazon appears to restock these iPhones fairly quickly, so hopefully shouldn’t have to wait too long for delivery.
Cheers! Good analysis!
I also ordered the Starlight (my preferred colour regardless of price) earlier this morn - not in a hurry, so hopefully they can actually get them. Any one had a temporarily out of stock order on an apple product fulfilled?
Looks like they just put the price back to $1217
That's the deal here … !!!! (ah … was the deal!)
Apple price match up to 10% remember, if Amazon has it in stock (not for back-orders).
Seems like a good deal. The 256gb 2022 SE is $969 I’m pretty sure.
Tempted to buy but happy to hold onto my iPhone 8 for another two years at least. Hoping a new iPhone comes out.
My iPhone 8’s juice is running out pretty fast atm. How do you keep your iPhone 8 battery survive for such a long time? Mine is like 5 years old.
consider changing the battery? I think its about $80. Will give you another 1-2 years of life
That’s a plan but I just need a new phone lol
@WwDesi: I will trade in my iPhone 8 to Woolworths mobile as it estimated my phone value at $110 range
@bruce1202: Daughter got $135 about six months ago from Apple when trading in an 8 for a 12 pro.
No doubt you could do better privately though, that is if you could be bothered.
consider changing the battery? I think its about $80. Will give you another 1-2 years of life
That's what I did. The battery life is still shit since the iOSes newer than my phone are using more computing power and deplete the battery faster, as the 8's processor struggles to deliver.
So, iPhone 8 with a new battery, replaced by Apple, these days is both slow and not quite reliable if eg. I take photos or browse much. I already got negged for that opinion ~6 months ago, so I decided to reset the phone. It's the same, surprisingly poor performance, its battery life being the biggest pain. I just turned to carrying a powerbank anywhere I go, until I get a new phone.
@pizzaguy: just wondering if you are conflating the apps cpu demand vs the OS itself.
i have a iphone 6s (ios12). i can still use it on a 3/4 day with calls. but if i tried doing anything apps related. battery life tanks.
also, you need to be aware of limited lifespan of rewritable storage on the phone. i'm not saying it's a cause of slowness. but you might be right that the newer OS probably would have more things in the background running that you are not aware of.
@slowmo: My problems started after upgrading my iphone 8 to iOS 15 (last year's; now they're releasing 16; I might have skipped 14 - I can't be sure).
The apps I'm talking are Camera, Photos, WA, Notes and Safari.
My battery deteriorated quick, now it's at 83% health according to the system, but it acts as if it was used a lot for years, ie. it quickly charges up to ~80% and then it takes ages to reach 100% - and that's not because of optimised charging.
@pizzaguy: i had a fairly good run with ios 13/14 when i had the iphone 7, so i would be surprised that the 8 is performing worse.
just to note, websites have increasingly become more complex and resource heavy, so while you might not have changed your surfing habits, the websites written today is a bit different from say 5 years ago.
that's the only variable i can think of outside of 'dodgy OS and dodgy replacement battery' side of things.
i don't think you would be getting a iphone 8 battery made in 2022 if you are getting it replaced 'today' (hope someone can prove me wrong), so that's another factor in the variable.
what you are experiencing sucks though. it sounds like trading in and getting a 2nd hand 2022 SE might even worth it.
@pizzaguy: I’ve noticed on iOS 15 the battery life on my iPhone 8 with a new battery is slightly poorer than it was on iOS 12 or 13 (or whatever it came with at release).
Still pretty decent battery life for my light-medium use requirements, and I’m just passed the stage where I care about having the latest and greatest iPhone.
When I first bought it I always kept the battery charged between 40% and 80%.
I think a few weeks ago the battery health (in Settings) said it was at 79%. Got the battery replaced last week by Apple, going to do the same thing, which should yield another 2-3 years hopefully.
I just can’t part with Touch ID, I have an XR for work and I hate the size of it and I hate Face ID.
iphone se has touchid… i like the smol size… it reminds me how fascinating it was to be able to cram that much tech into a small footprint.
@slowmo: Are you talking the SE based on iphone 5 size?
Because the smaller iphones - 14 or 14 Pro are 8mm taller than the current SE/8, but have significantly larger screens.
also this just in: Apple iPhone SE 2022 (3rd Generation) Starlight 64GB $552.43 Delivered (Grey Import) @ Reebelo Australia
@pizzaguy: i don't have the iphone 5, i've only used 4 and 6s , 4 being the smallest iphone i've used…
well, i discounted those as the 14, etc don't have touchid. which what Ghost47 is after.
also having owned a 7plus before, i find that the SE form factor is nicer as a 'phone'.
if it's about screen size , then you can't go past the 'pro max' territory.
I always kept the battery charged between 40% and 80%.
I do this too, my Xs is at 97% original battery.
@0jay: When did you buy that? The XS came out in 2019 right? Damn that’s impressive for a 3 year old phone.
that’s impressive for a 3 year old phone
Released 2018, bought 2019 so yeh 3 years.
It’s good but not the kind of method that’d suit everyone. I work/study from home so don’t have mush need for the extra battery life and 40-80 works fine for me, though I keep the phone virtually in a ‘manual’ mode with pretty well everything deactivated (also turn it off overnight).
As to touchID/FaceID, I preferred touch by far and would probably still prefer it if I had a choice but you get used to it and it doesn’t bother me at all at this point (except wearing a mask).
At 79% the phone would be kept in power management all the time. It definitely needs a battery replacement, or just get a new phone. The upgrade would be amazing.
At 79% the phone would be kept in power management all the time.
Where did you hear this out of curiosity? It definitely felt like the phone was throttling and lagging at points. Feels a lot smoother with the new battery now.
An upgrade would be ok but I’m really not a fan of Face ID or swiping up from the phone, feel like I have to reach too far with my thumb, so happy to use an iPhone with Touch ID for at least another two years.
@Ghost47: I've read about this too, it was a big deal a couple of years ago when Apple brought in these new battery management settings and people's phones were slowing down. It was ostensibly to mitigate issues with power spiking and the phone shutting down randomly, but people saw it as Apple deliberately making the phones obsolete. As you've discovered, a new battery stops iOS needing to throttle the CPU so it'll feel faster again as there's no/less throttling on the CPU.
@Shenannigoat: Yeah that makes sense. I think Apple did the right thing in that case prioritising stability (albeit at the cost of speed) instead of prioritising speed (at the cost of stability).
Batteries degrade, when they do they can’t deliver power as effectively. No reason to throw a fit over it.
@Ghost47: They weren’t very transparent about it, at least not initially. That’s where a lot of the criticism came from.
Word is next SE is going to be iphone XR type (notch screen) which could mean bigger screen in same size body. Lets see.
same size body
What do you mean? The iPhone XR is pretty big compared to the iPhone 8.
I don’t like Face ID at all, if anything I’d rather move to an SE 2022 after my 8 becomes unusable.
If they just recycle the iphone mini form factor into iphone SE that would be quiet good.
I use iphone 12 mini (Amazon deal $799 I believe for 128gb). Wouldn't mind if they make it into SE. Cut out the display horns and have narrow band at the top and one at the bottom would also be fine with a 5" FHD display. But we can only hope.
@netjock: I love the mini size, my 12 mini has been my favourite phone ever. If I broke it I would get the 13 mini and skip the 14 altogether.
But, it seems I am in a minority as most people are going for bigger phones.
@entropysbane: I upgraded from IPhone 7 to a 12 mini as I liked the same size!
I’d do the same and upgrade to 13 mini if I had to!
@netjock: Oh yeah, I read that the next SE will probably be the same form factor as the XR.
When you said:
mean bigger screen in same size body
I thought you meant like an iPhone 8 size but with a big screen. The XR does have a larger screen but it’s also noticeably larger and more cumbersome than the iPhone 8.
I would probably prefer the iPhone 12/13 Mini form factor for an SE compared to an XR form factor. Interesting suggestion on the band at the top and bottom.
@Ghost47: If there is an iphone SE 2020 and 2022. The next one might be 2024. Buy that time the iphone 13 mini would have disappeared for a year.
It might make a come back then. The screen is 5.4" if they count those two little display horns because of the notch. They might as well just make it into a band which will probably make it 5" and keep face ID (not enough space for the home button, other half has SE, I would prefer button as the charge pad is below the monitor and I don't want to pick it up or stick my face into my monitor).
Funny enough iphone SE is slightly larger than the 12 / 13 mini so they could have fit a larger screen to SE but that would cannibalize the mini sale. When the mini disappears at iphone 15 launch next year it will be a totally different game.
Apple has interesting strategy for SE. Only time will tell.
They might as well just make it into a band which will probably make it 5" and keep face ID
Funny enough iphone SE is slightly larger than the 12 / 13 mini so they could have fit a larger screen to SE but that would cannibalize the mini sale.
The point of the SE is to reuse as much tooling, engineered components and component supply lines that were developed for the iPhone the SE is based on. This is how they make it cheaper to buy while maintaining their desired profit margin, so they will never throw extra resources (new tooling, engineering new components, developing new supply lines) toward making a cheaper phone with its own unique parts.
The point of the SE is to reuse as much tooling, engineered components and component supply lines that were developed for the iPhone the SE is based on
So basically they got the tools for every iphone that ever existed. They just need to settle on the old iphone they want?
You'd be surprised how cheap it is to just change a screen to one that actually exists in other phone. That is why iphone SE has an LCD and all the other better iphones OLED.
Such a rocket scientist.
Your argument makes as much sense as the new Toyota Yaris is actually just an updated body shell and all the productions line is the same. The iphone SE 2022 about the only thing that is same as the old iphone 5S it is based off is the dimensions.
So basically they got the tools for every iphone that ever existed. They just need to settle on the old iphone they want?
Yeah pretty much.
You'd be surprised how cheap it is to just change a screen to one that actually exists in other phone. That is why iphone SE has an LCD and all the other better iphones OLED.
You underestimate Apple's desire to maintain their margin and minimise their BOM.
Your argument makes as much sense as the new Toyota Yaris is actually just an updated body shell and all the productions line is the same.
The 4th gen 2020 Toyota Yaris is actually a new design - new chassis, new engine/transmission and new interior materials. The 2nd gen Yaris (2005) and 3rd gen Yaris (2011) were essentially the same car with slightly modified sheetmetal and interior (and even the same engine/trans from the 1999 1st gen), so the 3rd gen was basically a Yaris SE - even carmakers do it, act shocked.
The iphone SE 2022 about the only thing that is same as the old iphone 5S it is based off is the dimensions.
The original 2016 SE is based on the 5S. Both the SE 2020 and the SE 2022 are based on the iPhone 8, not the 5S, and they share the following components with the 8:
Case
Display (minus 3D touch)
Taptic engine
Camera
Home button
Speakers
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+SE+2020+Teardown/1330…
That's quite a few common components.
@Dogsrule: Don't worry your first response says it all. They can just pick a design and it won't really matter because all the intellectual property is there.
The rest is just you blowing smoke up your own rear end thinking it really matters. There is a cost in producing out of date designs. Look at this chart where the price of the iphone SE is stuck at US$400 which is even cheaper than iphone 5S in 2013 Only reason they are making more money on iphones is due to higher price of the newest models. If your theory is so true they wouldn't put an A15 chip in the latest one and just an old chip in from iphone 12 or 11 which is still in production.
You seem to miss the point that Toyota doesn't produce the Yaris from 2 generations ago so they can offer a car at the $20k price point even if they have the intellectual property and the tooling because it doesn't make sense. You're just fooling yourself thinking you know business.
iPhone SE isn't about margins it is a cheap entry point into the eco system to bring people into the ecosystem and they buy higher margin products.
They can just pick a design and it won't really matter because all the intellectual property is there.
It does matter, because the component cost is higher for a theoretical FaceID/OLED equipped SE.
There is a cost in producing out of date designs. Look at this chart where the price of the iphone SE is stuck at US$400 which is even cheaper than iphone 5S in 2013
The development and manufacturing cost of the equipment used to produce the components shared between the iPhone 8 & the 2020/2022 SE has been fully amortised and depreciated over the production run of the iPhone 8. The R&D cost of the new components (A13/A15 chip etc) have been amortised over the production run of the phone they first appeared in (2020 SE - iPhone 11/Pro/Max, 2022 SE - iPhone 13/Pro/Max).
You seem to miss the point that Toyota doesn't produce the Yaris from 2 generations ago so they can offer a car at the $20k price point even if they have the intellectual property and the tooling because it doesn't make sense.
The 3rd gen Yaris was really an SE model though - it was nothing more than the old model with a few cosmetic changes sold on the cheap since the R&D and production lines were paid for over the 2nd gen model run. Moreover, making cars isn't the same as making phones. Car factories require huge capex and production is very capital intensive, so they aren't going to tie up limited and valuable production capacity with a lower margin older model if they have a new greatly improved model they can sell for a lot more money (which is exactly what they've done with the 2020 4th gen).
Toyota has about 32 factories to produce 10M cars per year, Foxconn/Pegatron have 3-4? factories to produce 240M iPhones per year. Making another ~20M SE's per year is only an extra month worth of production with far lower capex than setting up a car production line.
iPhone SE isn't about margins it is a cheap entry point into the eco system to bring people into the ecosystem and they buy higher margin products.
It's both. Apple wants more people in their ecosystem to sell them services and apps, with the hope they'll buy Airpods/Watch/better iPhone etc. But if you think Apple aren't making good money on a 5 year old case design with a 4.7" LCD screen from 2014, fingerprint sensor from 2015 and selling between $719-969, well I think you're quite mistaken:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-iphone-se-2020-teardow…
The SE has lower margins than the other phones, but still very healthy:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-chime-louder-asia-w…
Lastly, cool it on the aggression. I haven't made any snide remarks toward you, so please return the favour.
Lastly, cool it on the aggression.
That is because you really don't get it. You're in your own world.
Just live in your own little world that you believe amortization of hardware R&D is a significant portion of iphone cost when you consider most of the parts are actually based off third party designs. Chips are ARM basic designs that Apple modifies, chips are fabbed by other companies, modems made by someone else, memory made by someone else, displays are made by other companies. All they need to do is specify the size of the PCB and where all the connectors need to sit.
Next you'll be telling me that Google and AWS have amortized all their hardware and basically free. You know why that Apple hasn't made a EV yet right? It is because they really aren't hardware business, they are a software business.
Toyota has about 32 factories to produce 10M cars per year, Foxconn/Pegatron have 3-4? factories to produce 240M iPhones per year. Making another ~20M SE's per year is only an extra month worth of production with far lower capex than setting up a car production line.
If you really believe that holds true. Retool to make an old design for a month. You make it sound like Toyota can just retool one factory for a month and do a run of the old Yaris. You are just imaging stuff right.
From your Reuters article:
He estimated the iPhone SE would generate gross margin between 42%-54%, or roughly half the gross profit for each device compared with the iPhone 13 mini.
I think you confuse percentages and absolute numbers. As the quote above. Why would you give your current customers the option of giving you US$200 of profit rather than US$400? Percentages sound great until you get to the real numbers.
I don't know if you know what you are talking about because you obviously don't know what I am talking about.
The rest is just you blowing smoke up your own rear end thinking it really matters.
Such a rocket scientist.
That is because you really don't get it. You're in your own world.
Just live in your own little world…
Its a conversation about phones bro, get a grip 🙄
Your hoping when a new iPhone comes out ? Only every September , or haven't you noticed!
Haha typo, I meant “small iPhone”.
I seem to recall this having v poor battery life?
The 12 mini (recently discontinued) certainly had that rep, along with the SE of course. FWIW I read and watched a lot of reviews in the past month and the consensus seems to be that the 13 mini has a markedly better battery (though obviously not as good as the larger models like the Pro Max) and should get light to moderate users through most days OK—I fall into that camp.
However, if it were to be my primary device (e.g. if I didn’t have an iPad or laptop), then I would definitely opt for one of the Pro models.
How's the camera? I'm coming from a pixel 3 which still takes great photos (often I like them better than my wife's iphone 12)
I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m recalling incorrectly but the 13 mini apparently inherited its camera tech/sensors from the 12 Pro Max (minus telephoto) and seems to be well regarded, though I cannot make any specific comment in comparison with the Pixel 3. I have a later Pixel myself and personally am not concerned the 13 mini would be noticeably worse in this area—in fact, it’s probably one of the key advantages over the 12 mini (along with the battery).
iPhones are also known for better than average video quality, so should be an improvement on that front.
Edit: FYI if you want to read more about the camera aspects…
https://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_13_mini_matches_the_12_pro_m…
@fraxinus: Same as the rest of the non pro iPhone 13 range. Thus not the best, beaten by iPhone pro models and the pixel 6, but still one of the best.
@fraxinus: Ever since I think, the iPhone 11 (possibly), I feel like the iPhone camera takes photos that are slightly too saturated for my tastes.
Back in the S7 Edge days Samsung phones took very saturated images which just look too vibrant and fake IMO.
It’s another reason why I love my iPhone 8, the colours of the photos suit my tastes a lot and seem to actually reflect what is seen in real life.
Yes, Bit of a joke the complaints about battery life. It had a full two hours extra on the iPhone 8 and SE despite a smaller physical size and bigger screen. But two hours less than a larger contemporary phone, because physics.
The 12 mini yes, the 13 mini is far better for it because it has a better cooling system.
I've owned both and can vouch for the 13 mini's battery life. It does last a whole day with light to medium use (eg. social media on the train for an hour both ways). Noticeable difference between Optus and Telstra, actually affects battery strangely.
Anything more and I'm carrying a power bank anyways.
difference between Optus and Telstra, actually affects battery strangely
Which network gives you better battery life? I noticed that on Telstra, 4G and 5G both seem to drain my battery really fast throughout the day, even if I'm not actively using any data (I have the iPhone 13 Pro).
Telstra gives better battery life, except for 5G (which is all bad for now, battery wise, anyways). Try turning your phone to 5G Auto so it only uses the 5G network when required.
Nah the 13 mini has decent battery life, probably about the same as the regular Galaxy S22 etc.
I think it's important to note comparing the $1164 to the new RRP of $1219 the saving is more like 4.5% off versus 15%, but it's still a decent deal!
At the new revised price of $1097, it's more like 10% off compared to new RRP of $1219. Just as an FYI to all!
Love my 13 Mini.
Such a good size.
no wife says such thing
Wouldn’t you be better off backordering the white one for $1036?
That's what I did last night, hoping it will be fulfilled.
I’d certainly hope so given Apple is still manufacturing the 13 mini.
We are on the same boat
Anyone has gotten any updates? So far mines still sitting with no date in sight. I've went to JBs to see if they have any stock and they said they are phasing out the 13 minis, even though it hasn't been phased out at Apple officially?
It’s only been 5 days (incl. w/e) since this thread began so wouldn’t be too concerned yet. What you were told by JB seems to tally with their website: not many options there apart from the 512GB models (which are presumably harder to shift), and far fewer when you check availability of the 128/256GB ‘in-store only’ ones. OW website looks about the same.
Apple still has stock for immediate delivery, and so does Catch at good prices if you need one soon. As long as Amazon and others don’t follow JB in phasing out the 13 mini, hopefully their back orders should still come through eventually. Depending at what price you ordered on Amazon vs what you can get it for from Catch right now, cancelling the Amazon back order and ordering from Catch might be an option.
How does one backorder it, or have I just missed the boat?
I don't see the usual "other buying options" for any size/colour
Yes, the starlight (white) one at $1036 went back up nearly to RRP this morning so no longer a good deal.
If you follow OP’s link at the top, the red and pink ones still seems to be on sale at $1097 albeit both marked as ‘Temporarily out of stock’ too now. If you want to back order at that price, you can just add it to cart and checkout as normal. Amazon should deliver it when it’s available, and they’ll only charge you when it’s shipped.
could you get the 20x points off apple cards and it works out cheaper buying from apple direct?
Even adjusting for the increased storage this is NOT a good deal compared to the best iPhone 12 mini deals. Yes even factoring in "inflation tho." Should be sub $1000 bare minimum. I'll eat my socks if this phone doesn't have some killer deals within the next few months.
This is still a current model from Apple, whereas the iPhone 12 mini was discounted heavily when the 13 mini came out. Killer deals probably unlikely until it's no longer a current model.
The 13 mini has a better camera and two hours better battery life than a 12 mini (which I have). A definite refinement and the perfect phone for those wanting a smaller size.
two hours better battery life than a 12 mini
Also have the 12 mini. Depends on user case. While working and on calls I'd put it on 10W charge pad to slow charge. Take it off at 80%. Keep it around 70% at sleep time and wake up still on 60% then charge pad it while making breakfast and getting ready to head out (if going to office day). I average 3 - 4 hours on the phone a day only.
Yes the majority of the deals were after the 12 was discontinued, an oversight on my part. Though ironically the best 12 mini deal was before it was discontinued ($699 for the base model on Telstra day.) Not saying people shouldn't get it, it's just not great relative to the new MSRP (4.5% discount as Luneleaves pointed out.)
Iphone 13 Mini 128 GB - Pink only is at 1041 in TGG Commercial
Better to buy full price at Apple with discounted gift cards and waiting for a good cashrewards deal.
Terrible deal when you consider that both Telstra and JB sold iPhone 13s for $999 just over a month ago and right now you can buy iPhone 13 for $1,219 from OW by price beating at SkyPhonez.
Unless you really need the size of mini, IMO this is not a good deal at all.
People that buy minis want a smaller phone. The end.
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Does it have dynamic continent?