I Bought a BYD Atto 3 So You Didn't Have Too. Anything You Would Like to Know About It?

I ended up buying a BYD Atto 3, partially because I wanted an EV, somewhat because I didn't want a Tesla and mostly out of spite (As per that comment, it's even complete with wankery number plate). I wanted to put my money where my mouth is and buy one of these "cHiNa CaR bAd" EV's so maybe you don't have to.

I took delivery of it from Sydney (Castle Hill BYD) and promptly drove it back to work up the F4 freeway and back to work (About 200km journey). Consumption was ok (but there is no way this car is getting anywhere near the optimistic 480km range on the highway.) and used an average of about 17kWh/100km.

I ended up getting white, because I'm a tight arse and it was $0 for white ($700 for other colours) and it is not white. It's not even "Pearl White"… it's silver. For comparison, it was sitting next to a silver Navara at the dealership (they share with Nissan) and it was more silver than the Navara.

Quick thoughts

Fit and finish: Very good. I would absolutely say it was on a par with Kia and Hyundai. Seats are really nice. Dash material, not so much. Paint is all good and no massive panel gaps or piss poor painting.

Colours: Interior colours are much more muted and acceptable compared to the original LHD one they were showing in Darlinghurt. And as above, white is not "white".

Performance: About what you would expect from a 1.6 turbo, or a 2.0+ 4 cyl. engine, just way more torque. Regen is disappointing, it's either not enough, or too much. No one pedal driving.

Features: Yep, it's got them. Every anagram you can think of, it's there somewhere. Radar cruise is good and much better than the work Outlander. Lane Keep Assist is a little intrusive, but can be turned off. Cameras are amazingly clear.

Infotainment: Yep, well, that's a hot mess. No AA/ACP, (but AA can be side loaded for now.) Radio randomly reset volume when you turn vehicle off and on again. But all in all, LOTS of features and settings and it is a very snappy display with no lag.

Climate control: It works? All done through media control.

Ride comfort: Meh. Better than my Outlander, not as good as my Fiat. Around town and over bumps and rough surface, it's good. Around fast curves, it's a whale.

Economy: On the freeway/highway, not to bad, better than expected (expected 200~250km, got about 350km) around town, excellent. On one drive, I left home at 75%, got home with 76%.

Noise: Very quiet inside. It is very well insulated. It's no BMW 7 series, but it's certainly no Hyundai Accent. The "pedestrian warning" (drone noise up to 30km/h) feels like it resonates a bit, but swapping it from standard to dynamic helped. (I want a custom pedestrian warning noise.)

Size: Bigger than a Toyota Yaris Cross, a bit smaller than an Outlander. Interior is big compared to the outside would have you believe (I borrowed neighbors cat to swing around to test.) Seats are a good size, rear leg room is massive, boot space is, "average". not small, but not huge. I am 6'2" (188cm) and my head fit well within the car with a good 80~100mm between my head and the roof.

All in all, a really solid first impression. It drives well, is built well, handles on the upper side of "ok", power is good and range is not to bad… So, if you have any questions about the car, want to know anything or want a photos of something in particular, or just want to hang it on me for buying a Chinese EV, have at it.

Remember, I early adopted here so you don't have too, and I am not some paid off shill working for an auto review site/publication, so if it is a piece of shit, I'll say it, if it has issues, I'll certainly let you know and I am not here to defend the vehicle like some fanboi. To me, it is transport, not a love story. It's a family car, so it needs to be treated like one.


Edits and additions:

Total Cost: Some have asked me about what I paid for it, In NSW, the final price was $48,405.91. This included registration but not the stamp-duty. The stamp-duty rebate was done at the dealer for me. There is also a $3,000 EV rebate as well, that one you have to apply for online, and I have applied, but have not received it. After rebate, if/when I get it, it will be a total of $45,406 drive away.

Charging: I have a wall charger ready for install, but at the moment, I am living with a 10A granny charger. From 36% to 100%, the car estimated 24 hours on the 1.6kW granny. I plugged it in over night (8pm~8am) and it went from 36% to 75%. More than enough for an average day of town/city driving.

Pics or it didn't happen: Hold my beer fam… I got this…

Safety Features: I went and covered most of it in this reply

Servicing: This can be found on the BYD Aus website and I have talked about it somewhere around here

Price: $48,405.91 ($0 stamp duty and before $3,000 NSW EV rebate. For more info, I covered it here

Insurance: $884 full comp. through Budget Direct. More info on my "stats" for this price was mentioned here

Why an EV?: Because (fropanity) petrol companies! It had nothing to do with "saving the planet"

That rear badge: It's ok, you know I got your back on this…


Observations and Updates

First OTA updates have arrived: Info here

EV Incentive rebate was approved. Applied for it 16/9 and was approved 30/9. Payment arrived about 5 days after final approval.

Update on safety rating. Vehicle received Euro NCAP 5 star rating. ANCAP rating release in NZ (5 stars) still pending in Aus.

Comments

  • -1

    Grats on your new Tesla!

  • +1

    I ordered in July. Will be interested to compare notes when it arrives.

    • 100% let me know. Will be keen to hear how the later vehicle delivery goes compared to now.

  • buy one of these "cHiNa CaR bAd" EV's so maybe you don't have to.

    Thank you for your service.

    On one drive, I left home at 75%, got home with 76%.

    Was it downhill both ways?

    • +1

      Mostly downhill on the way home. It was a short drive, about 6km and it's lots of stop starting. Regen on max, lots of heavy braking to maximise regen and very very slow accel. I wanted to see on a short trip how well I could keep from using any reserve.

      I was trying to keep acceleration and coasting under 10kW and trying to max regen out when I could at 40+kW. And in all possibility, it may have been 75.4% and only got to 76.1%, so really not that much of a gain, but the car only shows rounded whole numbers for SOC.

      • +2

        And in all possibility, it may have been 75.4% and only got to 76.1%, so really not that much of a gain, but the car only shows rounded whole numbers for SOC.

        Could also have been 75.4% to 75.5%!

  • Thanks pegaxs for taking one for the team. Gives me confidence in giving one of these cheap(er) Chinese EV a go. Hopefully it's going to be the new MG4 in the middle of next year.

    • +2

      It's my pleasure. Hopefully its a nice, small, lubed stick I take for the team, and not a huge, dry, barbwire fence post. :D

      While I am not saying this is a "great" car yet, My first impression is that it appears to be better than my anticipation. I have certainly seen $50k cars that are worse qualitry than this in terms of features and build quality.

      And yep, I do like that new MG4… That may end up being the wife's new EV. Waiting for the MG4, the Ora Cat and the BYD Dolphin. All very exciting prospects.

      • +2

        A car is just a car. As long as it's safe, handles well and doesn't break down I will be happy. That's why we probably need you to update us with 1, 3, 6 and 12 monthly updates!

        After reading this post and checked out the UK MG4 reviews, I showed the wife the MG4. She really likes it and already picked the orange colour! Being a tight ass(Ozbargainer), I said no! White colour only! Ain't paying nothing for colour!

        It'll be interesting to see the ANCAP rating and at what competitive price they are going to set for the Australian market.

  • +2

    Interesting read and thank you for posting it. Unfortunately for me personally I will never buy a Chinese made car again.

    I had a Great Wall steed for 3 years and it has started to rust already. There’s a few stories online of LDV rusting as well.

    Living near the ocean sure is a pain in the bum, the quality of materials at least in the GWM steed is so poor it’s really made me quite cautious of Chinese brand/made cars.

    We’ve had a Mazda 3 parked in the same spot for 6 years and not a spec or any indication of even surface rust.

    It was truely disappointing as the Ute was pretty good all round…

    https://autoexpert.com.au/posts/dont-buy-warning-why-owning-…

    • +3

      Unfortunately for me personally I will never buy a Chinese made car again.

      That's ok, and I understand. That's why I decided to take one for the team. So people can see the risk at an arms length. And trust me, if this thing turns out to be shit, I'll be the first to get on here and update my post.

      And yeah, I get the rusting thing. I'm not to worried about it as the car is mostly kept in a garage and I dont live within any coastal areas, so I will see how it goes anyway. If it does start, then I'll be posting photos.

    • -1

      The Great Wall was built with obsolete Mitsubishi parts to be as cheap as possible. Probably not a fair reflection of Chinese build quality.

      • +1

        Mitsubishi bolts
        Mitsubishi shocks bolts
        Mitsubishi leaf springs
        Mitsubishi tub

        ? Surely not all Mitsubishi… my point was the build quality of the parts is poor and not up to Aus standards to protect against the slightest sea breeze.

        Also note I added a link for an LDV, are they Mitsubishi too?

        Plenty of Mitsubishis on the road not rusting….

        • +1

          The have oceans in China too. It isn't Australian standards, they are just built as cheap as possible. I wouldn't buy a great wall, doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a different brand Chinese car

  • How much you drive annually?

    • +2

      In this car, I would say about 10k to 13k a year on average. If work lets me hand back my work car and swap for a wall charger and free recharging, possibly up to 20k?

  • Questions:

    Are you associated with BYD sales in any way?

    I don't care about new car reviews, are you willing to do this yearly? I have a lot of questions about the longevity.

    • +1

      Are you associated with BYD sales in any way?

      Absolutely not. I really do not like the EVDirect team as a company (the people I've dealt with though have been awesome) and I 100% dislike Eagers as an automotive company. I think part of the issues with BYD and EVDirect bringing these cars to Australia has been the greedy, grubby little fingers and tenticles Eagers has spread out into the market.

      I bought the car because I wanted to put my money where my mouth was. There is no sense hanging it on the "cHiNa CaR bAd" crowd if I am not willing to buy a Chinese made car.

      I don't care about new car reviews

      Me either. After working in the automotive industry, I know that car reviews from publications are biased. They are given free long-term loan cars and paid advertising for the kick back of having to write glowing reviews of obvious shit heaps.

      are you willing to do this yearly?

      (fropanity) me! I dont have the funds to buy new Chinese cars every year!! :D But yes, I will be keeping this post updated throughout the year as various shit happens or as an update on how it is going if there are no real issues.

      I have a lot of questions about the longevity.

      Me too. But I'll try and update this in about a month, then in about 6 months, then at the yearly mark and then if I can remember, each year there after. :)

  • +6

    For those who are not familiar with BYD, they are the "solid/good" ones you find in "Made in China" products. (I'm Chinese and I know many are crap). Before the smartphone era, they already mfg many components for Nokia, Motorola, and they are mfg for Samsung, Huawei, Apple nowadays. So their mfg standards/capabilities are pretty high. Only problem might be that they don't have good taste (as you can see in the brand name) but their products is super solid.

    TLDR, BYD in cars is a bit like Xiaomi in phones (without the taste ;) I would recommend Tesla if you have the budget, but BYD definitely gives you the most value for what you paid.

    • +2

      Yep, their earlier petrol/CNG models were made in Xi'an, and had probably 70% share of taxis there.

      They are similar to ford/Holden here before 2017, i.e. overall reliable cars with some small issues here and there.

  • Hi OP, any issue with charging at NRMA charging stations ? Compatible , timewise ?

    • Dont know. Never used one. I have only charged at home so far on the granny charger. The car didn't come with the wall/destination Type2 male/female cable that some chargers require (some of the public chargers near me are tetherless and just a type 2 plug, so it BYO cable).

      I am keen to get out and give one of the DC chargers a go and I have seen some of the people in the NZ groups who have used them and from about 30% to 90% was only about 25 mins.

      On compatibility, it has a Type 2 (Mennekes) connector for AC as well as the CCS for DC charging. AC only supports 7kW, where the DC supports 80kW.

      Side note: I did go down to my local charging station (and by local, I mean 15 mins drive away) to test it… and , wouldn't you know it, broken. :/

  • It's not even "Pearl White"… it's silver.

    This is bugging me. What if you specifically wanted white like you ordered, like for signwriting/branding reasons.

    Shouldnt you have at least asked for a discount since they couldnt supply what you ordered?

    AKA Do you even Ozbargain bro?

    • I am happy with the colour. In the direct sunlight is is this glowing pearlescent white. In the shade, it is a very very light silver. I only ordered white because (fropanity) paying more money for grey/blue or red, not because I wanted white. But it was 100% different white to the demo LHD vehicle that was on display.

      • -2

        But it was 100% different white to the demo LHD vehicle that was on display.

        hence… Do you even Ozbargain bro?

        • +4

          Yes, because I am a tightarse, I didn't care what colour it was, just so long as I didn't have to pay for it. If purple was the only colour they didn't charge for, guess what… I would be driving a purple car :D

          • @pegaxs: I think the whole point has been missed here somehow.

            You ordered a specific spec and you didnt get what you ordered.

            To a card-carrying ozbargainer that is a situation to be milked, regerdless of it actually being prefferred or not

  • -1

    10A granny charger. From 36% to 100%, the car estimated 24 hours on the 1.6kW granny

    This is also bugging me. A 10A circuit can supply 2.4kW, yet you are only getting 1.6kW into the battey? Where is the missing 800W going?

    • +1

      Even in a dedicated GPO you probably aren't ever going to get the full 10A/240V. There are also losses in the charging cable and losses in the AC-to-DC conversion.

      • You don't have a kettle?

    • Correct, a power point can supply 2400W, but I dont know what the charger itself is rated at. I am sure I could buy a full 2400W 10A charger, but I dont really care. When the wall charger goes in, I'll be using that, when I am out and about, I'll be using charging stations.

      And another 800W might take it from 24 hours down to 23?

  • When you have FU money.

    • Hahaha… how is this FU money? It's less than the price of a Rav4 Hybrid Cruiser. Similar in price to a Hyundai Tucson Highlander or Kona Highlander. $45k after rebates is hardly FU money…

      • I assume it was meant in the barefoot sense - having a buffer where you can make bold decisions and not worry about how you're going to stay above water.

        • Oh, I guess?? I have been throwing pennies into an EV account for, christ, more than 10 years, about the time Tesla were getting to be very well known and not just a start up. Any money I made on buying and selling cars and motorbikes all went back into the EV account.

          I wanted to wait until EV prices were on the way down, infrastructure was rolling out and adoption was on the way up. The release of cars like the MG ZSEV and the BYD Atto 3 just seemed a good nexus to jump on board.

          The other factor was, I wanted to get in early to buffer myself. I knew if I got it and it turned out to be terrible or a waste of time/money, that there would be a waitlist for them and I could just as easily flip it, so there was also risk minimisation there as well using that method.

          • +1

            @pegaxs:

            The other factor was, I wanted to get in early to buffer myself. I knew if I got it and it turned out to be terrible or a waste of time/money, that there would be a waitlist for them and I could just as easily flip it, so there was also risk minimisation there as well using that method.

            That is a pretty good idea. Interesting how availability is one of the biggest factors of buying a car these days (IMO).

  • Price comes up $80 more?

    BYD ATTO 3 Standard
    $44,381.35
    White Paint
    Included
    18" Alloy Wheels
    Included
    Two-tone Interior
    Included
    Pickup from BYD Castle Hill
    Included
    Vehicle Subtotal
    $44,381.35
    Local Stamp Duty
    Included
    Local Registration
    $556
    Local CTP
    $420.57
    Local Slimline Plate Fee
    $125
    On Road Fees Subtotal
    $1,101.57

    Drive Away Price
    $45,482.92

    How much is the comprehensive insurance?

    • +1

      $80~ish more because I was charged "standard plate" ($48) fee and not "Slimline plate fee" ($125) as covered in this reply

      Comp. Insurance was $884 and was covered in this reply

  • -5

    You mentioned this recently in another thread.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/12637890/redir

    "They are basically attention whores who crave the "look at me" any forum affords them. "

    Lolz. Pretty ironic considering you're like "HaY guYzz I boUGHt a New cAR ouT of sp1te from 1ntnernet pplz lOLz."

    • +3

      Not really, but nice try.

      That comment is out of context and was related to that post that was about trolls who have no other agenda other than to post topics they know will deliberately inflame the community.

      I don't go into every thread or start random posts to troll just for the attention, and this is hardly a "troll thread". And if this is what you consider a controversial post, then why bother replying?

      I purchased this vehicle because I wanted to put my money where my mouth is, and since there is a "cHiNa CaR bAd" mentality here, I thought it was in the best interest of the community to get the chance to ask questions about these new vehicles since they have been a topic of conversation in many other threads and posts, I thought that I would let people ask me anything they want about it and help either dispel or reinforce the fear surrounding Chinese cars and EV's in general.

      So, did you actually have a questions about the BYD car/company/delivery/dealer network/customer service/buying experience, or just here to shitpost?

      • -7

        So, did you actually have a questions about the BYD car/company/delivery/dealer network/customer service/buying experience, or just here to shitpost?

        The latter.

      • +3

        @pegaxs.Your posts have actually been quite informative, telling like it is.Keep it up, positive OR negative.

  • +1

    My wife and I really like the idea of an EV and have been keeping an eye out, but they've just been a bit too expensive to be able to justify. When we heard about the BYD though we were super excited, and now that it's here, doubly so - especially seeing your impressions! When we have a chance we're going to check out our local experience center, but I had a question about it in the meantime: do the back seats fold down and lay completely flat and level compared to the boot? Or is it a bit raised/angled compared to the boot? My wife's car (the one we'd swap first) can do that and we love it, so if the BYD can do that too, it'll be extra points towards it!

    Thanks for doing all this, and I'm definitely keen to hear about the updates down the line

    • +8

      When we have a chance we're going to check out our local experience center

      Absolutely. Nothing better than looking at them for yourself. I have been told that if you want to test drive one, you need to book ahead (this was from the BYD manager at Castle Hill.)

      do the back seats fold down and lay completely flat and level compared to the boot?

      Dont know… I tell you what, I'll go out and have a look and report back… If there is enough light out there, I'll see if I can take a photo for you of the seats down. BRB…

      Edit: Here are the photos of the seats laying flat~ish from the side and the back. The car has a floor you can lift up or down to increase cargo space or to flatten out the area a bit more… Hope that helps.

      • +1

        Wow, that was super quick! Thanks so much! As for test drive, we'll definitely be doing one down the line, but one of the most polarising things about it is the interior - we're kinda 50/50 at the moment on the inside, so want to see it first in person before deciding to organise a test drive or not :P

        The seats are a bit harder to tell than I was expecting - in my car they've very obviously angled up quite a lot, but these might do the trick - still nice and flat to get bulky stuff in there, which is good! And the boot having that extra deeper area is such a great idea! Thanks so much for looking into that!

        • Yeah, don’t let the interior deter you. It makes more sense once you are sitting in it. I have grown to like the dash now that I’ve been driving it around, it actually makes the car feel like it has a lot more space inside in front of the driver than conventional dash set ups.

  • +1

    When did you put in your pre order and when did you take delivery?

    • +1

      Pre-order went in on the night pre-orders opened. I think it was 19 Feb.

      I was told July/Aug delivery that was later updated to Aug/Sep.

      Finally delivered on 14 Sept… 7 month wait.

      • +1

        Damn.

        I had moreless same thoughts as you during the whole process weighting up the pros/cons, china car bad, brand questions, servicing, reliability etc.

        Preordered early August, projected for Jan/Feb delivery..

        Ended up cancelling and opted for a 2nd hand leaf e+ instead, which I've had now for 2 weeks and loving it.

        Granted the battery chemistry and active cooling is missing but it was more of what I wanted, smaller car with the same range.

        Sitting in the demo atto3 felt huge and impractical around sydney.

  • +4

    Thanks very much OP, very informative post.

    I'm looking to get an EV for our next vehicle. For around town, traveling out of peak hour traffic, and mostly charging at home from the solar panels, its a no-brainer.

    Ignore the fools bagging you out… let them keep on keeping on with their petrol/diesel dinosaurs. They are already paying a massive premium to drive old tech, and its only going to get worse as the years roll on, with fuel costs rising every year.

    • +1

      I don’t suffer fools or time wasters, so they don’t bother me. There is always going to be the negative Nancys in every thread.

      And I agree, ICE vehicles are coming to an end for general use. They will still exist for a long time, but I think that for the 2nd car or the short journey vehicle, more and more people will come to realise that EV’s just make sense.

  • When did you get the contract? I haven't received anything yet.

    • +4

      I received a contract about 3 weeks before and then radio silence. I then received an updated invoice about a week before pick up with payment details. Then, radio silence again. Then, out of the blue, I got a call from the BYD manager at Castle Hill to get some final details and organise a time for pick up…

      All in all, it was a terrible experience with little to no communication and very hard to contact them to clear up anything. I think it has more to do with trying to get their shit together and get 1000 cars delivered as quickly as they can… I can only hope it all gets more streamlined the more deliveries they do.

      • Hopefully I get mine soon, I need to see a contract before I finalise my decision.

      • Any attempt to upsell you on paint or seat protection? Or anything else to try and get more money from you?

        • +2

          They sent a memo out with a menu of things we could add, like the usual tint, paint protection, etc, but there was no hard sell. You either took them up on the offer or didn’t.

          I didn’t because lol @ $1,200 window tinting… dealers are scammers.

  • Hi,

    I placed an order as well. The account/car been in the "production" stage for 2 months now, no updates.

    I will go today to check out the car in person. I'm afraid that the interior design will affect the resale value. If MG 4 or BYD 4 would be available, would go for one, no questions asked, the problem is that those will be available here mid-late next year at best and we need a 2nd car yesterday.

    Do you think the resale value of the car will be negatively affected because of the interior design?

    • Not looked into Australian market, but EVs resale in China has been poor, as no one there wanted someone else's degraded battery apparently.

      That said, BYD batteries are among the most advanced in the industry. Time will tell if they can remain reliable in Australian climate, then that hopefully will determine resale value.

      • It's also a cultural thing.
        Chinese people tend not to buy secondhand goods/homes which would also affect resale value.

        • iPhone, luxury cars hold value exceptionally well there so I'd imagine 2nd hand market there is efficient.
          Upper-middle class Chinese people Chinese people tend not to buy secondhand goods/homes which would also affect resale value.

          • +2

            @YRT: The other thing is, in China, these are a sub $30,000 car. Why buy a used one when you can literally buy a new one for not much more.

    • +2

      The account/car been in the "production" stage for 2 months now, no updates

      That's ok, my portal still says "in transit"… :D

      I'm afraid that the interior design will affect the resale value.

      Yeah, I dont think so. People who want the car will have already done their research. Anyone who turns up and says "Oh, wow, that interior. Yeah, I cant live with that." was never going to buy the car in the first place. And honestly, now that I have owned it for a bit and driven around in it, I don't even care any more, and in fact, it actually makes the car feel more open in the front than most of the traditional big, black, flat, plastic fascias. I now actually hate driving my work Outlander because I feel so boxed in by this huge black offensive dash.

      You will find that going forward, more and more cars, especially EV's are going to start coming out with radical interior designs as there is more space and less humps to build around as manufacturers look at making the inside of the vehicles much larger and more spacious, something that is hard to do in cars that have transmissions and drive train tunnels. So, buyers who go "ewww" now may just find in a few years, when it comes to new cars, they may not get the option to say ewww, as a lot of cars will have different interiors to today's cars.

      Buy a car based on what you want from it and don't let one minor detail spoil what could absolutely be an awesome car. And that goes for any car you buy.

    • +3

      Update: seen and drove the car today.

      The car looks a lot nicer in person than in pictures/videos. I actually don't mind the interior design. Whilst it is a bit quirky, 3 minutes inside, and I stopped noticing.

      The car drives really nice, with only two things to mention, the collision warning and the lane keep assist are very aggressive/sensitive and either need to be tuned down or disabled at the user end.

      @pegaxs, I have only 1 concern. The soft plastics/materials on the inside against the Australian sun. I'm a bit worried that they'll quickly degrade and couldn't help to think that this might also be a reason for the reduced warranty?

      • +1

        I don't know and this is a bit of a concern for me as well, that being said, I did order a dash mat for the car because I thought I don't know how well this rubber will stand up in the Aussie sun.

        I am also getting UV reducing ceramic tint done this week and have a sunshade for the front window for when I have to leave the car outside.

        Again, it's just one of the things I'll put on my "keep an eye on that long term" list.

        And yes, with the "design" of the interior, I find it less offensive when you are sitting in front of it rather than how it looks from a oblique view from a wide angle camera lenses.

        • Are you getting full tint all round (including roof?) or just the front driver/passenger to match the 'privacy' glass. Actually, is privacy glass UV reducing???

          • +1

            @Cliche Guevara: Full tint, roof is already tinted, so no roof, only front, rear and 5th doors. There is a 95% block out blind for the roof.

            There is no privacy glass in the car. All of my windows are clear.

            • +1

              @pegaxs: Oh, that is interesting (about the no privacy glass). I thought that was one of the specifications? But it now makes sense if it's not included, as I saw a YT clip of someone else's ATTO3 and I thought "gee, that privacy glass in the back looks almost see-through". So I guess we're not getting it here. Will be booking in for tint then too…

  • +3

    I have an EV. You'll never get the rated KMs on the highway. It's opposite to ICE cars - you get better economy in the city.

    • +1

      Yep. Agree there. On the highway, 17~18kWh is about the norm for me, where in town I can get 10~12kWh and gain a shit load more regen around town to add to the range. But the range is a bit of bullshit, because it is the EV equivalent to the fuel consumption stickers on ICE vehicles where they have some unreal claims of litres/100km that no one could ever achieve.

    • Hybrids are the same, urban environment is where they really excel.

      • That's why hybrids preference electric at low speeds and petrol motor on the highway.

        • +1

          They are the ‘sweet spot’ @ present.

    • The higher your average speed the higher consumption is on highway.
      Around 90km/h is most efficient. Costs extra 25% battery going 110km/h

  • +1

    Great write-up thanks! Shame about the lack of CarPlay

    • Yeah… But it is "coming soon"… And even if it isnt, you can side load most apps that you would want and there is even an AA emulator at least, so there are work arounds, if you dont mind being a little hands on and know how to side load in Android.

      • It's out now! Saw it on Tesla Tom's Ludicrous Feed channel.

  • Anyone here had a tyre puncture(hopefully not you pegaxs) and used the repair kit?

    • I would assume is like every other puncture repair kits which I used plenty of time before. Just make sure you have a mini compressor in your boot.

      • Are you referring to one of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM3yxQKH3_4

        • This is almost the identical kit that is in my car. There is a bottle of goo and a compressor.

          • @pegaxs: I never knew about these puncture repair kits until I realised that EVs don’t carry a space saver. The traditional outside-in repair kits that you could buy online and use privately are outlawed so the EV car manufacturers wouldn’t be supplying them. The legal inside-out plug-in mushroom repair kits would be useless as you wouldn’t be able to remove the tyre from the rim.

            Instead of range anxiety I think I’ll have puncture anxiety. I will do more research on the effectiveness of these repair kits or paying for a space saver. Would be horrible on a road trip with an irreparable tyre and not even a space saver.

          • @pegaxs: Horrible stuff! I had a goo kit in my GT Mustang, ended up purchasing a space saver tyre.Now my HRV Hybrid has one!Hate the things!

        • +1

          Don't get a Goo kit or anything like that.

          Repairing a tyre with a repair kit is quite simple and effective. The repair will outlast your tyre.

          Get a proper mini compressor like this one (not affiliated) and off you go. Never inflate the tyre with the goo. I've had this compressor in my car/motorcycle since 2014. Has carried me through some tough times in the desert and mud, never let me down. Yes, I my current car is a SUV with a full spare tyre and I still prefer to patch the tyre on the spot than changing it. It's a 10 minute job. I also carry a repair kit in the car: https://www.amazon.com.au/Puncture-Repair-Recovery-Plugs-Hea…

          • @[Deactivated]: Yeah, by the sound it the can-o-goop sounds horrible to use and a lottery to hope that it works. Part of the troubleshooting when it doesn't work is to roll the car forward for about 5 revolutions and hope that the goo spreads evenly an seals the leak. LOL.

            I think I will buy a compressor, a few repair kits(thanks for the information) and probably a space saver just for the peace of mind. We seem to get a puncture once every 3 years(the puncture last year was a double puncture with a screw and a nail!) and I would hate it during a long road trip.

            • +1

              @DarkOz: One thing I forgot to mention, if you get a puncture on the side of the tyre, that's unrepairable, and the tyre needs replacing.

              The repair kit in the link above should last you at least 5 - 10 puncture repairs.

              I think the unknown is the scary bit, and, after the first time, it gets easier.

              • @[Deactivated]: Yup, my last puncture was just outside of the repair area that I didn't think the garage would do it. The big brands won't do it(such as BJTM) but my small local garage did it for $45 and didn't charge for the second puncture afterwards.

                I looked at the link of the repair kit you posted and there were a handful of plugs so I guess 1 single kit would be enough. I knew they exist but I have never used them before. I don't think it would be too hard to learn for the drivers who could change their tyre to a spare.

  • +1

    Good one mate and nice to share your experience.

    Looks like you like it overall so that ended up well for you.

    • Cheers!

      And yeah, first impressions have been pretty good. So, I am pretty happy with it as a vehicle, so I will see how it goes over the next few months and see if that new car smell has worn thin or if it's still going strong.

  • +1

    Thanks OP!

    In the market for a new EV.

    • The least I can say is, at least give BYD a look. Go down and see it for yourself. Make your own mind up. But also know to maybe hold off if you dont need it soon, because there are a few more models coming out next year and will be announced very soon. The EV space in Australia is about to get a lot more choice.

      • It is going to get to a point were people will have to ‘jump’ to an EV.While Petrol is a ‘reasonable’ price, this might take awhile.Just my take on it.

  • Thanks for the review! Just need some larger SUV options to start filtering through. Don't suppose you can fit three car seats across the back of the Atto 3? :P

    • The Atto 3 is pretty wide inside as the wheel track is pretty wide for the size. If you want to know, I am happy to go out and run a tape measure across it…

      And for what it may be worth, there are only 2 car seat anchors in the back and the 3th one is apparently hidden under the covering on the back seat. It also comes with ISO fix mounts…

      From what I have compared it to, its a smidge smaller in dimensions to RAV4, Outlander and Tuscon (I've parked next to each of these) but a touch larger than a Kona and much larger than a Yaris Cross.

      • Interesting, on the off chance you do find the time to check the width that would be great but no biggie.

        I've been holding out and sticking to my outback until more EV options come along, but this price point is pretty sweet for all it is.

        • So, I managed to kill two birds with one stone when I went out today and just happened to find an Outback with a parking spot next to it. So I tried to line them up tail wise (backs level, maybe 10~20cm further back on my BYD) just to give you an idea of size difference from the outside.

          Just note, that outside difference is not an indicator of inside difference. The BYD is not a wagon, more like a hatchback and it doesnt have a boxer engine in the front.

          The base of the rear seat is 132cm wide, the upright of the back seat is 124cm wide.

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