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30-Day Tesla Enhanced Auto Pilot Free Trial @ Tesla (via in-Car Display Offer)

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cya on 23/12/2022 - 19:04 ibb.co (1857 clicks)
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Enhanced Autopilot

30-day enhanced auto pilot free trial for Tesla owners. Full upgarde cost $5,100 and normally there is no trial period.

  • Auto Lane Change: Assists in moving to an adjacent lane on the motorway when indicator is engaged by driver
  • Navigate on Autopilot (Beta): Actively augments Auto Lane Change by providing guidance to the driver to transit motorway’s on-ramp to off-ramp, including suggesting lane changes and navigating interchanges
  • Autopark: Helps parallel or perpendicular park your car, with a single touch
  • Summon: Moves your car in and out of a tight space using the mobile app
  • Smart Summon: Your car will navigate more complex environments and parking spaces, manoeuvring around objects as necessary to come find you in a car park within your direct vicinity.

Check your car screen and it should come up as a display

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  • strangeloops66 on 23/12/2022 - 20:55
    +1

    Aren't all drivers auto pilots? Some are even enhanced.

  • robeh on 23/12/2022 - 21:07
    +1

    Paying for a feature that is in the car

  • mitt on 23/12/2022 - 21:31
    +3

    lol car DLC

    Hard pass. I will wait a few years until people start releasing custom car firmware & buy something second hand.

    • Mesky on 23/12/2022 - 23:27

      You laugh now but the world is moving to subscription base usage, even Toyota is rolling out connected services starting with the Corolla Cross SUV 12 month free at the start after which it’s 9.95 per month

      • mitt on 23/12/2022 - 23:30
        +8

        Yep, & the response will be the re-invigoration of the piracy & hardware hacking scene.

        They almost killed it when they realised the convenience of subscriptions that just work was a better option than piracy & subverting protections but the pendulum has swung too far. The convenience & low cost of subscription services is fading away under service duplication & over-aggressive monetisation.

    • Logical on 25/12/2022 - 01:33

      And once you crash your insurer will be ok with your third party firmware update that altered the behaviour of the car.

  • vasil on 23/12/2022 - 21:52

    Activate trial crash dummies.

  • Dogsrule on 23/12/2022 - 22:01
    +6

    Gave it a try on my drive home on the Newcastle-Sydney M1. I don't use regular Autopilot and EAP didn't change my mind, the lane changing was too slow for my taste, plus it seems like it nagged me to wiggle the steering wheel a lot more often. Its so funny how the tech heads who were never into cars before buying their Tesla rave about the software/autonomous driving tech being the killer feature, whereas I think its the weakest part of the car.

    Its literally built as a sports car underneath - 5 link rear suspension, double wishbones at the front, lots of aluminium suspension components and body panels, plus the industry leading electric drivetrain lets it mix with the best from Bavaria and Ingolstadt, yet they think the middling lane keep assist, lame software controls and big screen are the best features?

    Get out and have some fun with it, I've had a much better time actually driving it than messing around with its 'tech'.

    • gavincato on 24/12/2022 - 06:58
      +1

      Yeah I found the wiggle nags so frequent I think I'd rather save 5k and just turn the car myself into the next lane.

      If the software would overtake cars / take exits / change lanes without constant wiggling of steering wheel I'd buy it, but not as it is.

      It should do this on freeways where the car can be confident it is safe, and ask for wiggles on slower / more built up roads.

      • Dogsrule on 24/12/2022 - 07:54
        +2

        Yeah agreed, as it stands I think it actually adds stress to the driver. I honestly don’t think Tesla’s have the hardware to do useful autonomous driving yet. Gonna have to upgrade the camera package and put that radar back in Elon.

    • Skurfer on 24/12/2022 - 20:08
      -1

      Just buy a steering wheel weight off Amazon. No more wheel waggling.
      I do about 1500km a week about 90% highway kms in my model 3. Best thing I've bought for it I reckon.
      If you're bulk highway driving, autopilot is a game changer compared to a car without it. Such a more relaxing way to travel. You don't realise how much more tiring driving a car without it is over a 3 - 5 hour drive having to do all the micro adjustments you do constantly.

      • Dogsrule on 24/12/2022 - 20:44

        I've thought about it, but there are aspects of Autopilot I don't like other than the steering nag. I have developed a habit of keeping close to the shoulder line due to trucks wandering over the centre line while I'm passing them, but Autopilot keeps the vehicle right in the centre of the lane which is too close to the trucks for my taste.

  • scud70 on 23/12/2022 - 22:14

    This is a good example of what to expect Tesla AP

  • blurrybird on 23/12/2022 - 22:31

    Strange, it hasn't shown up for me. I wonder if there are any requirements attached.

    Sept. 2021 Model 3 Performance.

    • hopper on 24/12/2022 - 07:06

      You are a year old, I'm sure you can walk by now… 😂

  • ilikeit on 23/12/2022 - 22:51
    +5

    This is slightly off topic, but related. I know this is a software upgrade, but I’m totally against the subscribe to upgrade business model car makers are dabbling with. It is not going to end up well. Paying to access things your car is capable of doing from the factory is BS. It costs the car companies more to spec a car that has all the technology that you can sub to. You’ll end up paying for the tech in the your car whether you want it or not. Like buying an Audi that has built in seat warmers that you are required to sub to access. You own a car that has the tech so you should be able to use it. What’s next subscribing to access airbags, a sunroof or climate control? BMW used to charge $479 to access Apple CarPlay for just 3 years!

    • SBOB on 23/12/2022 - 23:41

      It costs the car companies more to spec a car that has all the technology that you can sub to

      Not necessarily if it means they can effectively have a single production line/sku and just enable things via software as requested.
      Lack of variation in production likely results in increased efficiency

      • ilikeit on 24/12/2022 - 07:11

        I was going to mention that, but realised they will still have multiple production lines to cater for exterior, interior and engine differences.

        A consumer is still going to pay for that seat warmer that is built into their car that they will never subscribe too.

    • zerog101 on 24/12/2022 - 00:25

      The same tech is used for wide range of features …. Just like a pc …. Your pc is capable of a lot ….and you have the tech … why don’t you get all software for free…..???

      • Techie4066 on 24/12/2022 - 00:29
        +4

        Very poor analogy.

        • zerog101 on 24/12/2022 - 00:38
          -1

          How…. The same system is used for many autonomous features… that come standard with the car… all it is is cameras and a pc …. I think it’s an accurate analogy …

          • Techie4066 on 24/12/2022 - 00:41
            +2

            @zerog101: 1) it's a car, they're expensive and all components move with it
            2) car ships with oft-redundant HW
            3) that HW is supposedly for safety - why the extra $?
            4) it's an OEM Tesla option that unlocks the feature - it's always embedded in the SW

            • zerog101 on 24/12/2022 - 09:18
              -2

              @Techie4066: Hahahah… software development costs money… pay for it…

            • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 10:56

              @Techie4066: You haven’t purchased an app for your phone? Its new software you need to pay for to run on your existing hardware. How else do the software devs get paid? Should your phone come with every app ever released in the future meaning the outright cost for everyone would be millions? Of course not, you pay for what you want to use.

  • LoserScott on 23/12/2022 - 23:35
    -2

    I just had a smash, but it wasn't my fault because I was within the cooling off period, while it's true the t&c state not driving during trial period will result in cooling off period being terminated but I wasn't driving so it wasn't my fault it.

    Waits for flies.

  • ubcool on 23/12/2022 - 23:40
    +1

    its like letting your kid on lap to steer .

  • PcisT on 23/12/2022 - 23:41
    -1

    I’ve activated this in both my M3 and MY this morning.

    • Ulysses31 on 24/12/2022 - 00:01

      Thanks for letting us know

    • MrThing on 24/12/2022 - 14:48
      +3

      Cool story bro 👍

      I activated, drive my car like a responsible person today also

  • TheCandyMan2020 on 23/12/2022 - 23:43
    -3

    Is it true that when you re-sell your Tesla they deactivate the addon features you paid for?

    So the new owner has to buy them again….

    • huey on 24/12/2022 - 00:02
      +1

      FSD goes with the car. if you sell the car to another person directly, they get to keep it.

    • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 11:01

      Tesla sometimes does this after you have traded it in to them to make it easier for them to resell. But privately it stays with the car.
      There was a case I remember when a car had options which were never paid for which changed hands before Tesla fixed the mistake, think it lead to a court case.

  • dealsucker on 23/12/2022 - 23:48
    +1

    This thread is looking like most Apple deals - lot of whingers whining for no reason and yet the company they hate takes all the industry profits and grows every year. Keep whinging.

    • Techie4066 on 24/12/2022 - 00:27
      +3

      Yep you're definitely delusional aren't you. Musk is Electric Jesus and we're all luddites. How's that share price going? And what do you think will happen to Tesla when the industry heavyweights hoover up their market share?

      • dtpearson on 24/12/2022 - 07:28

        How are all the "Tesla Killers" going so far? The old guard keep skating to where the puck was.

      • dealsucker on 24/12/2022 - 14:51
        +1

        Very well if you were a long term investor, not if you are a daily gambler.

      • dealsucker on 25/12/2022 - 10:11
        -1

        Well he is the EV jesus and yes quote me on it duckface

    • AircraftFreight on 24/12/2022 - 10:42

      Tesla looses money here in Australia. Whilst in the US they hold a tight monopoly on the EV industry. Besides in places like Victoria there’s a bloody TAX, across the world only in bloody Victoria that there’s a tax to own one of these cars.

      • payless69 on 24/12/2022 - 16:00
        +1

        I heard South Australia has a Tesla only tax to bow to Dan's use of their batteries?

  • BargainBuddy on 24/12/2022 - 01:39

    May be plug-in hybrids and freeway lane control. But we not yet ready to adopt EVs or self driving cars.

  • Daddy Chill on 24/12/2022 - 07:12

    Tried this on the old Gemini. Did not work

  • gangnamstyle on 24/12/2022 - 07:24

    free to heaven

  • voltex on 24/12/2022 - 10:30

    Thanks OP. Buying a Tesla today to take advantage of this deal.

    • Logical on 25/12/2022 - 01:36

      No inventory stock in AU.

  • AircraftFreight on 24/12/2022 - 10:39

    I have always been interested in EVs to replace my CX3, had a mate who bought a series X and he just told me “Don’t you ever fuxxing buy one of these cars” and after 15-20 reasons why I stopped thinking about getting a Tesla. I have been interested about the Polestar 2 and wondering if I should book a test drive, I barley drive cars - only to head office, around my surrounding suburbs and to the airport. I am wondering if I can use a Polestar 2 with Tesla chargers as I recently saw one here at the Qantas VP here at Melbourne airport.

    • od810 on 24/12/2022 - 10:59

      City and short distance driving are the perfect driving scenarios for EV. You do 40-80km per day, you charge the car off peak at home. And yes tesla home charger works with polestar 2. The super charger network is exclusive to tesla.

      • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 11:09

        Maybe a little conservative. If you only do 40-80ks a day you can just plug into a standard 10amp socket anywhere.
        Evs are good for 200ks a day with a charger at home to fill back up overnight.

        • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 13:25
          +1

          Why would anyone want to waste a day a week sitting in what is a prison eg the car even if it was self driving ?

          What makes sitting in a box a "smart" way to waste your life ?

          • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 13:32

            @CowFrogHorse: That's a whole different topic but plenty of jobs still require travel.

        • od810 on 24/12/2022 - 13:38

          Yeah my estimate is for 10amp charging which is applicable for 80 90% of driving. I am getting an EV for the wife to go to work.

  • StingyBritches on 24/12/2022 - 11:21
    +1

    I’ll have to check if this is offered on both mine and my wife’s Bugatti Chirons.

  • bargainsteve on 24/12/2022 - 11:34

    Smart Summon…..what happens if your car kills someone's child while it's looking for you? Genuinely curious. Who's at fault?

    • nobro25 on 24/12/2022 - 12:18
      +1

      Elon because the car is driving itself and Elon created the car.

      • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 13:23

        Stop spreading FUD, Elon did not create or found Tesla, he was an early investor. Go read their history on wiki.

        • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 13:37
          -2

          Elon is officially credited as being a founder.
          The FUD is that he or Tesla would be liable, your job to control the vehicle, if you dont take that responsibility then dont use the tech.

          • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 13:39
            +1

            @bluey47: He can call himself whatever he likes, that doesnt make it true.

            In the 1850s there was a guy who called himself Jesus little brother, and he started a civil war in china, that resulted in over 30 million deaths….(look it up very interesting story that shows how lies can cause death and chaos and misery).

            Big difference between truth and someone talking shite.

            • bluey47 on 30/12/2022 - 14:17

              @CowFrogHorse: Except its not shite, the court dismissed the argument that Eberhard & Tarpenning should be considered the only founders because they technically incorporated the company 6 months before Elon become chairman and largest shareholder in Feb 2004.
              Eberhard, Tarpenning, Wright, Musk, and Straubel are co-founders.

              • CowFrogHorse on 31/12/2022 - 16:39

                @bluey47: You just admitted that the company was founded 6 months before Elon…..by that very sentence he cant be a founder, because he wasnt there are the start.

                Stop watching american tv, because you just called yourself a liar.

                • bluey47 on 02/01/2023 - 12:20

                  @CowFrogHorse: No, its just that our definition of "founder" is different. You have an opinion and I have a different one, no need to be so aggressive.

                  • CowFrogHorse on 02/01/2023 - 17:33

                    @bluey47: @Blue47

                    Most dictionaries and people would disagree with your weasel words about what founder means.
                    Like i said you are trying to play American tv lawyer bullshit games instead of honouring what the word means to most people, instead of trying to trick people into believe one thing when you have redefined the word.

          • Techie4066 on 24/12/2022 - 18:00

            @bluey47:

            officially credited

            We see what you did there

        • nobro25 on 01/01/2023 - 09:13

          Well Thomas Edison didn't create the lamp bulb but got credit for it. So go figure.

    • payless69 on 24/12/2022 - 16:01
      +2

      It will have a 115dB beep beep so only deaf kids will be flattened!

  • nobro25 on 24/12/2022 - 12:17

    I'm curious in an accident of who's the at fault driver? If the car is on autopilot and three adults sitting in back seat with the owner of the vehicle at home.

    • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 13:41

      Car Wouldn't move, requires attentive driver.
      In the future when full self driving doesnt require a driver, 10 years or so i think, there will be a very interesting court case to determine your answer.

    • Logical on 25/12/2022 - 01:39

      It was the dog, playing in the backyard

  • Look Up on 24/12/2022 - 12:20
    +1

    "You wouldn't download a car"

  • roobunya on 24/12/2022 - 12:32
    +2

    I've got the Full Self Driving package which, for now, only means enhanced autopilot in Australia and I use it EVERYWHERE.

    A few weeks ago I went up the coast on a trip for an hour and a half. I probably only drove for 1% of the journey there and back. I am a tech and have been working with Machine Learning for years, so I know what is going on behind the scenes, and this still blows my mind.

    The world is not ready for what is going to hit it in a few years. There will be people on this forum crying about it, but in the end, you will LOVE it. When you have a friend who has a Tesla and the FSD package is here in Australia, get them to show you. You will be as amazed as I am.

    Until the FSD package is released as no longer Beta software, it will remain a Driver Assistance feature. Slowly but surely it will get to the point where you will not need to intervene. This is already happening to people in the US.

    I'm talking about getting in your car and your car driving you to your destination with no human interaction needed.

    For now, it's just Enhanced Autopilot :(

    Exciting times to be alive!

    • SBOB on 24/12/2022 - 12:47

      Slowly but surely it will get to the point where you will not need to intervene. This is already happening to people in the US.

      considering Tesla does not disclose or report on driver disengagement events, I think we are still some way from reliable, non-intervention required driving. Honestly think there should be legislation requiring all aspects of autonomous vehicle operations being reported, from all manufacturers.

      What openly reported 'limited' data sets are available, are not 'favourable' with regards to the 'distance per disengagement' rate
      (e.g. recent one - https://electrek.co/2022/12/14/tesla-full-self-driving-data-…)

    • bluey47 on 24/12/2022 - 13:46

      Agree completely. I only have normal auto pilot but use it all the time and marvel at the decisions being made by the software. Everyone keeps comparing it to legacy automakers which could never create software this way, never allowed to fail so can never learn from mistakes. Same way Spacex makes rockets, break things fast.

    • payless69 on 24/12/2022 - 16:03

      This forum is full of Comrades waving red flags….

      • Techie4066 on 24/12/2022 - 17:58

        You mustn't have heard. Lefties and liberals alike aren't such fans of "free-speech absolutist" Musk. He's a deranged narcissist.

        • payless69 on 24/12/2022 - 20:18
          +1

          Yeah the poor immigrant from South Africa. Plenty of Tesla's around here, happy drivers but poor roads and road infrastructure.
          With double demerit points over the festive season I minimize my driving.
          The Kia EV6 is about its only proper competitor if you can get your hands onto one.

  • Harry P Ness on 24/12/2022 - 12:42

    Sounds useful

  • Shaquille Oatmeal on 24/12/2022 - 12:43

    Will this work in a 1998 Hyundai Excel ?

    Asking for a friend.

  • Adeelfaizi on 24/12/2022 - 12:56
    +2

    This thing is dangerous. Last during an exit of showed me what it can do. In other words, how it can kill. It not even beta. Straight onto the bifurcation island at 100km/hr.

    The autopark is by far inferior to my 10 yr old Mercedes.

    The summon feature is next to non existence.
    $5k is a rip off. This coming from a guy who was about to make a payment for EAP and then saw a FB Post about free trial. *Dodged the bullet.
    Sadly the free trial by Tesla had back fired for them and most people agree that it's not worth paying. Their faulty Autopark should be a free feature like other half priced cars

  • OzDayZee on 24/12/2022 - 13:07
    +1

    Had a laugh about this trial expiring mid-highway

    • Logical on 25/12/2022 - 01:42

      Then you realised that's not how it works.

  • quasio on 24/12/2022 - 13:13

    So much hate in here, yeh Elon rubs a lot the wrong way, and autopilot isn't the best name. Its just a smart cruise control, and i'm sure plenty of others have it now.

    If a tesla kills a kid, you'll definitely hear about it, but in the same situation with any other distracted driver will probably end up being the same if not more.
    i.e. 100% crash if distracted in normal car, 50% crash if distracted in one of these more advanced cars?

    I guess an argument is whether u'r likely to be "more" distracted with these systems than not, but i think anything to help "assist" the driver is a benefit, otherwise we wouldn't have abs, traction control, aeb, seatbelt warnings etc..

    • Techie4066 on 24/12/2022 - 20:32
      +1

      yeh Elon rubs a lot the wrong way

      So much of his business is founded upon lie after lie, starting with him being an innovative genius and PayPal/Tesla founder, through to all his false promises, scientific illiteracy, and ridiculous premises for side projects. Only compounded by his lunacy these past months. I think people's responses are totally rational.

  • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 13:23

    Why would anybody pay $5K to sit in front of the steering wheel ready to grab it ?

    Maybe its me, but that sounds like more work than just driving it 100% the old fashion way.

    Then again if you are driving that much that you think you need any sort of self driving then you have already lost. Every minute or hour or half day you spend driving already makes you a loser.

    • SBOB on 24/12/2022 - 13:30
      +3

      Every minute or hour or half day you spend driving already makes you a loser

      Scraped into the 'dumbest comments on Ozbargain for the year 2022' awards nominations with a few days to spare.
      Congrats.

      • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 13:37

        Dumb ?

        So spending 10 - 20 hours a week in a car is smart ?

        I suppose if you drive 10 hours a day thats not dumb thats by your comment super smart ?

        No the dumb thing is thinking a car is necessary and wasting hours in a car every day is a life necessity.

        People shouldnt be demanding more transport, they should be demanding less commuting and less transport solutions.

        • MrThing on 24/12/2022 - 14:59
          +1

          Ur dumb for having a life which requires do much driving

          • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 15:59
            +2

            @MrThing: thats exactly what my original post said, not sure why you are saying im dumb fr requiring so much driving.

          • GodsSon23 on 10/01/2023 - 11:03

            @MrThing: Ur 'dumb' for having a life which requires 'do' much driving

    • idonotknowwhy on 24/12/2022 - 16:33
      +1

      Why would anybody pay $5K to sit in front of the steering wheel ready to grab it ?

      Agreed, plenty of Elon's knob jockies are wet for this idea. These features shouldn't be pay-walled.

      Then again if you are driving that much that you think you need any sort of self driving then you have already lost.

      Wtf? You don't use any automation? No automatic transmission, power windows, power steering, abs breaks?
      I guess you hand wash your dishes and clothes as well lol

      Every minute or hour or half day you spend driving already makes you a loser.

      Cruise control is life changing for long drives to far away relatives, holidays within the state, etc.
      Just shouldn't be behind a paywall.

      • CowFrogHorse on 24/12/2022 - 19:31
        -2

        Cruise control is life changing for long drives to far away relatives, holidays within the state, etc.

        So why not live in a place you actually like with friends and family instead away from all that ?

        Dont tell me job, because there are plenty of people living out of the big smoke doing far better than city people.

        Wtf? You don't use any automation? No automatic transmission, power windows, power steering, abs breaks?
        I guess you hand wash your dishes and clothes as well lol

        Power windows has nothing to do with auto pilot. stop being an extremist and merging things or ideas that are completely different from the intended spirit of my comment.

        • idonotknowwhy on 25/12/2022 - 00:03

          So why not live in a place you actually like with friends and family instead away from all that ?

          Because some people have multiple groups of friends who live in different parts of the state, maybe divorced parents who they need to visit separately at different sides of the state, etc.

          Power windows has nothing to do with auto pilot. stop being an extremist and merging things or ideas that are completely different from the intended spirit of my comment.

          Auto pilot is an evolution of cruise control. It automates part of the driving process, also like automatic transmission (no need to change gears yourself), ABS breaks (no need to pump the break up and down rapidly to avoid wheels locking) etc.

          • CowFrogHorse on 25/12/2022 - 12:24
            -2

            @idonotknowwhy:

            Because some people have multiple groups of friends who live in different parts of the state, maybe divorced parents who they need to visit separately at different sides of the state, etc.

            Im not stupid i know people move ab out the country and state. Im questioning the wisdom and practicality of doing so.

            Is it smart or good that divorced parents move so far from each other that it takes inter-state drive to visit ?

            Of course not, thats the height of selfishness and so many other negative terms.

            Auto pilot is an evolution of cruise control. It automates part of the driving process, also like automatic transmission (no need to change gears yourself), ABS breaks (no need to pump the break up and down rapidly to avoid wheels locking) etc.

            If you still have to watch the wheel just in case, then its not auto pilot is no different than being a regular drive in an old non autopilot car.

            Auto pilot or self driving means you can goto sleep in the back seat and not watch the car at all, its all or nothing. Stop pretending otherwise.

  • Skurfer on 24/12/2022 - 20:28

    I'm happy to have received this for free, just in time for my drive back to Melbourne from Gladstone QLD in a couple of days time. Timing couldn't be better.
    Used it today for a 200km drive and it didnt add enough for me to pay 5k for it which I've never considered anyways as base autopilot is more than good enough for me, but auto lane change worked fine after I mucked around with the settings, but it's not too hard to indicate and change yourself anyways.
    Used summon to move the car up the road while I helped mow and whippersnip the sisters house so no rocks would hit it. Again worked fine but not hard to jump in and drive it yourself. Still amazes me it's even possible to do though.

    Power boost upgrade for the LR on the other hand…must buy. Acceleration goes from real fast to crazy fast. 4.4sec to 3.9sec to 100kmh. Never been in a performance model but that 3.1 to 100kmh must be brutal.

  • letthewookiewin on 25/12/2022 - 02:41

    For my new Model Y dropped a cool $10,000 on the FSD. it's definitely no Ozbargain especially for Australia short version is its "Very advanced cruise control" think enhanced makes Auto pilot for hwy and fwy driving more complete and nice to use explained below. Proper and complete no stress let the robot drive from home to work is years away.

    Wild conspiracy theory though this trial could be in preparation for a FSD beta to be dropped soon get more people to sign up??

    Long version

    We dont even have the FSD beta here but that looks like your baby sitting a learner driver in its driving ability especially when used on local or city streets from videos seen online just a North America Access thing for now.

    On freeway and hwy at least in WA FSD non beta it's awsome the auto lane change with Mad Max settings are excellent worth it if you do a lot of freeway hwy driving IMO.

    Auto park have used quite a few times more than I thought I would it just works needs clear parking bay markings but pretty good. Takes 30 - 45 seconds I could park it in half the time but it's nice to have.

    Red Light recognition is good and works very well though a double edge sword stops for reds stops signs but you have to now acknowledge the greens which is annoying. Where before if your too cheap to spring for Enhanced or FSD Tesla would just allow vehicle to punch thru green or red if on auto pilot if you not following someone.

    Some not so good things

    I have tested navigate on auto pilot this works kind of, some on and off ramps especially the ones that have the cycle lane to cross with two solid white lines this hardley works properly for me. So out of habit don't use the on ramp function. Normally just get on fwy and hwy then activate it then let it do its thing and take the off ramp.

    Traffic intersections can sometime get lost if lane markings are not clear or lots of them or faded it will try to take middle of the road and also can leave merging to the last second with some semi hard breaking because Perth drivers hate to let you in to merge for a human so the Tesla AI having hard time most of the time so auto pilot is mostly used hwy and Fwy.

    On semi main roads with auto pilot left hand side road position left lane your are in the middle of the lane but means driving over every storm water drain would be nice to have a offset that you could change few CM to the right would solve the problem.

    Auto summon is a gimmick used it few times but you would need more guts than me to try in a busy carpark mine tried to leave the carpark and go onto local road so…

    Above is my experience to me its been worth it to me others might not see the value, might be a bargain down the road if FSD works and they jack the price later on.

  • kaio on 25/12/2022 - 03:44

    Salute to this great hall of debate about A.I.

  • AnotherCheapo on 25/12/2022 - 06:16

    Check out how bad Tesla's self parking is, compared to the competition

    https://youtu.be/nsb2XBAIWyA

    • dealsucker on 25/12/2022 - 10:12
      +1

      The massive difference is it can get better with merely an off the air software update. The other's are as good as they are ever going to get

  • jeppetto367 on 25/12/2022 - 11:25
    +1

    Thanks OP, got this yesterday and filmed a video of my dog driving using summon. Probably never use it again now.

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