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PNY VERTO Dual Fan GeForce RTX 4070 12GB GDDR6X Graphics Card $899 + Delivery ($0 SYD C&C) @ JW Computers
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We can still hodl for Ti.
hodl for 5070
You would be hodl'ing forever
Always hodl. These diamond hands don't fold.
At this rate, probably be $799 by June.
More like by the mid-end of May.
I hope, but I doubt it.
Ppl said the same price for 3080 after crypto dump, but it's still hovering at 1k right now lmao
Completely different situation.
Nvidia stopped production of the 3000 series specifically because there would have been an oversupply. Their board partners were happy to comply coming off record sales.
This is a new launch, production capacity has been bought, and the global recession means that Nvidia once again finds itself with an oversupply, however they have no choice but to sell these.
They're trying the same thing. Just announced this morning they're cutting production of 4070. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/12u16te/nvidi…
People are so pathetic for buying these instead of boycotting pc gaming.
It was over priced to begin with anyway by 150 AUD in Australia as per HUB video.
But that's always been the case. We never pay USD equivalent on most product as we're slugged with Australia Tax.
It should still have been 984 with conversion plus tax. But it was launched at 11xx. Hub says it's NVIDIA tactics for European and Asian countries to charge more. Who the f pays 1100 for a 70 series card?
HODL till next week for $199 at this rate
I'm not sure if 12Gb will be enough VRAM for a xx70 card these days, which lets be honest the specs indicate this should be called 4060, we have already seen that 8GB is crippling the performance of the 3070, the fact that most newer released titles require at least 10 or 12 minimum does not bode well for the 4070 in the long run.
What games require 10-12 GB?
Apparently Hogwarts Legacy helps itself to >10GB, but wouldn't exceed 12GB unless you're gaming on 4K with RT, which you probably wouldn't be with a 4070 anyway. If you had this card for the next 5 years, you may encounter other terribly optimised games at some point too
Yet the system requirements state GTX 960 4GB…
Yet the system requirements state GTX 960 4GB
Money. Just pure greed.
Also releasing a buggy game before it's ironed out
@Mondorock: I think it's a max settings issue, so not necessarily something every player will face.
That being said there's some mind-blowing AI tools coming out nearly every week at the moment and most of them need NVIDIA cards and piles of vram. I expect they're going to completely change home PC use in the next few years once some proper interfaces are put on them. Rather than doing many types of work or tasks or even googling you may just ask an AI to do much of it for you.
Not require per-say but when someone buys a xx70 card they expect near top tier performance at say 4k or 1440p these days. Hardware unboxed video of the 3070 vs 6800xt shows that 8gb is not enough the next incremental step up is 10 or 12Gb card.
That hardware unboxed is clickbait. And he doesn't use upscaling
@Micsmit: Its just one example to show that 8Gb cards is running in to trouble running the latest games. We all know that we can simply lower textures/res/fps or upscale to reduce the vram usage, but whos buying a xx70 card and thinking to themselves cant wait to lower settings in a year or two because the GPU is out of Vram if I enable all my settings.
There are quite a few games use more than 10G-12G if the game setting is 4k native + ultra (all max as well) + Ray Tracing ultra. If i remember correctly new Resident Evil and Hogwart Legacy + 1 or 2 more games. Even my 6800 4K all max setting use more than 10G VRAM on Shadow or the tomb raider.
Who plays 4k native when you don't have 4090
@Micsmit: I have 4k 60hz monitor, i play 4k native with my 6800 in all games (RT off). I wouldn't mind 1440P if i have 144hz monitor to be honest.
Weighing in as a non-game, if this had 16gb vram for the price I would instantly buy, heck if it was 20gb id pay a grand. Fact is nvidia seems to be deliberately positioning their new cards with a dodgy vram, trying to screw creatives?
More like planned obsolescence, these cards will be near worthless once newer games drops support for the older ps4/xbox one x consoles and the minimum performance targets for AAA will be set at PS5/Xbox Series X.
@binary101: I think you're overestimating the performance of modern consoles. A PS5 is about as powerful as an RTX 3060.
They definitely want people who make money using their cards to buy the professional, or failing that, to buy the flagship model. Honestly they'd probably try limit you from doing that stuff on their consumer cards if they thought they wouldn't be raked over the coals for it.
@Diji: The only reason I just bought a 24gb GPU was because I got to spend a year with a 3060 12gb building up my skills and enthusiasm on tools that benefit from a flagship, where the 12gb was just enough to cross the line to use them properly in a slow and corner cutting way. People can't discover how good these tools are to want flagships if they can't even use them.
@Diji: NVidia is already doing this for a while, they prohibit usage of consumer cards for professional use in data centers (except of mining) in the license of their drivers.
They can't limit the usage of the card you have bought but they can limit the usage of their driver.
Market segmentation.. faster than a 4060 but slower than a 4080
Easy to do by changing memory bus width which affects capacity
I saw 14.9 gb allocated to the RE4 demo the other day on 4k ultra+rt.
There are legitimate points to be made around the way in which allocation/usage can be inconsistently reported, and that some games can manage ok even when swapping into ram a little, but I think it's relatively clear that there are cases right now where 10gb isn't enough and 12gb is borderline.
Kerbal Space Program 2. Awfully unoptimized.
The last of Us
Get a 16GB card and find out. Most of them will take the opportunity to use the extra space. Hell even cities skylines uses 12GB on my OC.
$899 for 12GB's .. i paid $670 for a NEW Asus Tuf 6800 with 16Gbs :) that's only a 16% slower card
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070.c3924
Nvidia can keep there 16% better performance with less ram at that crazy price.
Nvidia can keep there 16% better performance with less ram at that crazy price.
~20% better performance
But yea, ~34% more expensive, not greatThe Techpowerup link has it at only 16% faster vs a RX6800
@vid_ghost: Then it's not valuable to you. Future proofing is something I don't buy into, but more ram is betterer
@vid_ghost: Technically RX6800 being 16% slower means that RTX 4070 is ~20% faster. Percentages are really important on Ozbargain lol
Where the heck did you land a new RX6800 for $670?
I believe it was a deal from eBay that was posted last year, I missed that one but I got 6800 for $699 few months later.
Will likely be fine for the life of the card as the first owner. Even Bloatwarts and a game that ran fine on PS3 don't need more than 12GB.
Everything below the 4090 (maaaybe 4080) belongs a tier below where NVidia has named and priced it. NVidia clearly wanted to make it two tiers but the furor over the "4080 12GB" was too loud.
This is a 4060.
Stop accepting dodgy tactics from greedy companies.
According to the article the 4060 ti will be targeting the performance of the 3070, which was <$700 recently, and the 4060 ti price doesn't have gst added yet…
8gb nooooo
The MSRP here will likely be around $830 as each card thus far has more or less equated to an 85% increase over the US pricing.
4070 are depreciating like Mercedes S class.
HoDL for 7900xt(x)
Yeah, I'm already tempted by a 7900xt to replace my 970. 3.5gb of vram certainly isn't enough at 4k (shocking news, I know) but it is working well enough for me to hodl a bit longer.
Just get the rx6700. I went from 970 to 6600xt and it's fine for QHD
Go ARC a750. Latest drivers have it trading blows with rtx 3060. Sell 970 for $90, buy a750 for $390, cheap upgrade for $300
I thought 4070 new MSRP is $549 USD
Consider only under $750 for me.
@ChatGPT lol great post hahaha
Based on the USD MSRP of $599 = AUD ~$893 this deal seem pretty reasonable.
But I would love to see these cards sold closer to $700 AUD to be a reasonable Mid+ Range pc option instead of being over-inflated like this and the last generations of MSRP.i paid $670 for a NEW Asus Tuf 6800 with 16Gbs :) that's only a 16% slower card
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070.c3924Price dropped 9% in the US already.
All my homies hate Nvidia
Ngreedia price jump for midrange
Looks greedy enough!
These are great 1440p performers, and the power efficiency is very good, under 200w where most comparable cards run over 250-320w.
The 12GB is the only drawback, should have been 16.
Lol imagine a product losing $150 off its price in a month and its still a bad deal…
Mid tier should be $499 on sale, let's hope.
4060 should be $375 on sale
I should buy this?……
I built my PC around late 2021 and only thing I didn't get is the GPU (was meant to be a 3070). Still rocking an old 1060 paired with 5600x lol. Goal is to run 144hz at 1440p.
Well, 5600x still paired well with GPU like 6800, 6800xt or 3080, 4070 if you don’t mind less VRAM. Could wait for 7800xt as well if you can wait.
Do you play a lot of ray tracing games? If not, 6950XT if you really want to spend and buy now.
Lol@ NVIDIA is reportedly slowing GeForce RTX 4070 production due to low sales
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/91154/nvidia-is-reportedly-sl…
Yeah, not sure now how much more it'll drop. They'd rather constrict supply.
Anything other than put it at a reasonable price. So they rather pull back production instead.
Im done wirh Nvidia, next card is a 7900xt(x) for me then Intel ARC Battlemage.
Limit supply before lowering the price. Classic Nvidia move.
unless AMD flood the market and they won't because they are just as happy as Nvidia to rip as many people off as possible, both will restrict supply to artificially inflate the prices… they've already modeled what supply levels are needed to keep prices at a certain rate which gives them the optimal revenue and margin.. now that they know consumers will happily pay through the nose for these products thanks to covid, they know how to manipulate the market to suite their bottom line.
Nvidia is worse but AMD is happy to ripp us off too :) if and when they can
I expected at least one or two weeks for this to hit. What were they thinking with the AU RRP.
I wonder why PNY is so willing to lower prices so quickly to sell their cards for a lower price than the other brands
Every Company only has one purpose, maximize their profit, same with PNY. I guess they don't expect this GPU sell fast and they want to clear/lower their stock by lowering the price before all other brands. At least before you heard/read there is problem with their cards.
Do you think Nvidia also sets price boundaries on minimum or maximum prices to prevent each company from undercutting one another or screwing up the pricing? Would think that's price fixing…but then again this brings up the question of whether setting an MSRP is kind of price fixing as well as they are setting a reference price that retailers can all see and somehow use as a benchmark collectively to price goods to consumers…
Good 😊. Wake me up when the tuf carf sells for around this price 💪
Wow.. they haven't sold out yet.
gone up in price now to $939
Deal expired, still in stock = nobody is buying.
Haha they put the price back to $899. Guess they know they are in a pickle with this card.
Deal back onDeal back on, JW are switching between $899 and $939 twice a dayI have a Ryzen 9 3900x CPU with 32gb DDR4 ram and a 34" ultrawide (3440x1440). Is it worth getting a 4070 as an upgrade to my 2080 super? My understanding is my CPU would bottleneck this card at 1080p, but not so much at 1440p.
4060 Ti 16GB rumoured for July launch, 4070 and 4070 Ti values have just crateredDeal continues, JW are switching to $899 for the weekends and then back to $939 during the weekSeems like this one doesn’t have Diablo 4 included, when you browse other 40xx cards most have the D4 promotion image on the product page, this one does not.
No hodl?