A repeat of the previous Beryl AX deal from January.
Less power demands than the Slate AX
Slate AX: Power Input: Type-C, 5V/4A. Power Consumption: <8.75W. Dimension / Weight: 125 x 82 x 36mm / 245 g
Beryl AX: Power Input: Type-C, 5V/3A. Power Consumption <8W. Dimension / Weight 106 x 83 x 33mm / 196g
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I have the ar750s.
when doing failover to my 5G phone, it fails to actually charge the phone. It just doesnt provide enough power via USB.
Would this Beryl be able to charge my phone while doing mobile internet fail over (crappy NBN!)
My AR750S charges my phone. I wasn't sure if the power supply that came with it could supply enough amps to power the Slate and charge the phone, so I used a higher output 5V one. But I didn't use the QC3.0 one that came with the phone because I couldn't be sure what would happen if the phone told the charger to send it 9V or 12V, it could handle it, and the Slate couldn't.
The phone would only get 5V from the slate as that is what it is capable of outputting. The slate would only negociate with the charger what it can use which is 5V, regardless of if it's used with a QC charger and phone attached.
I'm happy you are sure how it works, but until and unless I see a circuit diagram, I'm not.
The Slate runs off a 5V power supply. It has to deliver the exact same out its USB port to the phone. And the Slate is cheap and small. So I have to suspect that the power supply socket is wired directly to the USB port, with no intervening circuitry, so there's no reduction in voltage. And if its directly wired what would stop any command from the phone saying its low on charge and would like 9V or 12V being fed back in the other direction to the power supply. I don't know that's the case. But I'd prefer to be cautious and use a power supply that can't step up to a higher voltage than the Slate is designed for.
I got one on pre release. It's fantastic. Used it as main fttp router at home for a month before buying a new mesh system. Made travelling to Airbnb super easy & planning to use it on a long camping trip in a few months. Haven't used at a hotel yet with Captive Portal.
How will it be used for your camping trip?
share a hotspot to multiple devices
Powered by portable charger and internet via by 4G/5G USB dongle.
I recently picked up a gl.inet gl-ar750s at an op-shop for $20 and was planning on also using it as a hotspot on long camping trips but was just wondering if there were any other uses in that scenario. Is your internet dongle specifically for travel/camping?
@Villainous: I got the Telstra USB dongle for about $20 from ebay. Haven't used it for anything else, so I guess you can say it is specifically for travel. I have a spare data sim that uses shared data from a Telstra plan (300gb per month). Telstra works much better in remote locations outside of the major cities. The family has mobiles using all different carriers (mainly optus), so hopefully the Telstra dongle can provide everyone with access when camping.
@mandelbrot: Cool. We're in the same boat, 4 phones on various carriers on optus network, camp regional for 7-10 days, so i'll keep a look out for a cheap telstra dongle. Any specific model i should look out for?
@mandelbrot: Hey, i'm doing some further testing with mine running from various power banks. How are you planning on powering yours and for how long? Have managed to only get ~27hrs running straight so far.
@Villainous: Hi. I haven't run it from a power bank yet. My trip isn't for another few weeks. I only plan to run it for a couple of hours a night for about 2 weeks. Will charge the power banks in between as well.
Been using mango and MT-1300 and both runs well
TBH for travelling router mango is more preferable to me given its size and powering requirement (5V 1A)
Even mango speed is good enough to stream netflix / youtube / disney+ in HD
I guess I could always use both, mango on the go and beryl ax for accomodation
I looked at the comparison chart, but couldn't understand the difference between Slate AX and Beryl AX. Which one is better?
Thanks
Slate AX has a bit more power requirements, not as easy for a powerbank
Bit more expensive
VPN speeds
MU-MIMO
EAP
Micro SD slot
The 0.75W power consumption difference i'd say doesn't really suggest one is more power hungry then the other.
Only way to really know which consumes more is to measure the average of them both for your own use case…
For me, the big kicker is that they both have fans and they don't (yet, or in the foreseeable future) have official OpenWRT support.
it's more the input voltage,
Slate AX needs 5V/4A,
Beryl AX is 5V/3A which is easier to find on powerbanks
@impoze: I assume you mean amperage as the input voltage is the same (5V).
The amperage rating usually assumes a margin for error just incase the device needs to draw more power.
With the 8W/8.75W power consumption spec you gave, that'll mean the devices run at 5V 1.6A/1.75A respectively if true.
Again, depending on your use case, one could easily draw much more then the other due to many factors.
I would guess the main reason for the extra 1A in design, is to give headroom for the extra port and microSD.
Edit: Just found on the gl.inet forums someone running Adguard Home + Wireguard server drew ~6W on Slate AX
However, the usb port is out of spec so your luck with cable/charger combinations may vary.
@wwwsam: yeah the amperage,
I read on the gl.inet subreddit and I think on some of the older ozbargain deals about some users having issues powering these with type-C with PD.
Thanks. Not having official OpenWRT support means a no for me.
I'll try to look at the Mango one :)
@Averell: If you want a "recent model" with OpenWRT support I think the Slate Plus (GL-A1300) is your best bet. It's based on the same chipset as the GL-A1300 (Cirrus) which was released a while ago and already has full OpenWRT support. Its currenttly in snapshot and figure it shouldn't take long to port given the AP1300.
No it's not WiFi 6 but then again I really think we get carried away with specifications especially when we're on holidays and we're using crappy Australian internet services š My goto travel is still the original Slate (GL-AR750) while the Slate AX and Beryl AX are APs on my home network.
@Limbot: Thanks.
I'm travelling in 30 days from now, and I'm looking for a lightweight one, which my laptop can power (MacbookPro 2020). I'm not sure whether that laptop can give 8W. In many places, they said that it only provides 5W.
BTW, Google told me that GL-AR750 is Creta, not Slate. And Creta is currently not available on Amazon.
@Averell: Ahh sorry AR750s (S missed because doing on phone). Yes AR750s is also end of life and will probably have another couple of years of gl.inet support but also supports vanilla OpenWRT. Even the Creta is better than the Mango because dual band (but of course bigger). I have run both Slate and Creta off USB ports of notebooks.
The Slate uses a Qualcomm chip, the Beryl a Mediatek.
Someone might want to verify this but I thought they switched to Mediatek because of the embargo the US placed on chip exports to China. I also thought the Qualcomm chips used a fully open source openwrt where as the Mediatek used a modified closed-source version.
What @impoze said. Also someone said that Beryl AX is likely to get software updates quicker and more frequently because it's using different chipset to Slate AX but I can't fact check that claim
@oleglap It's back at $135.15
Thanks buddy, just ordered :)
Only two ethernet ports. Not enough for me.
How many ethernet ports do you expect to use when travelling?
some people use it at home for VPN
Can't wait for the GT-AX6000 to drop to a reasonable price to use at home. Not sure that using something like Slate AX or Beryl AX at home makes sense, even though on paper they have great specs.
I was just pointing out to anyone who might not have noticed that it only has 2 ethernet ports where all the Slate models have 3.
I use mine at home.
Slate AX has 3 but really curioous to see the use case for any ethernet ports really. Would expect most people to use it for WiFi rather than carrying cables to plug in…
This is the beauty of the ozbargain community. I didn't know about this. What's the use case? Travel and work away from home? How reliable is it? I might get the beryl over the mango.
I use it for travel, have it tethered with a phone and use it to bypass hotspot limits with some countries as well as use it as a VPN client when using hotel public hotspots..
What's the difference between this and the a1300?
Look at the comparison chart
Thank you. My mistake. The mt3000 is my choice
I took this away on a cruise and unfortunately it wasn't stable for me. I had so much trouble trying to share my phones 5G with this either via wifi repeating or USB tethering. I ended up falling back to my phones wifi hotspot.
However it works great as just a router, plugged into an existing ethernet at an airbnb worked great.
EDIT Sorry I have the MT1300. I assume same software though?
I had similar issues with the GL.inet GL-MT3000 (Beryl AX) listed in this post.
I holidayed in multiple countries in multiple hotels and didn't once get a stable connection while trying to repeat the hotel connection and run it through a VPN.
Captive portal connection was very hit and miss, with an emphasis on the "miss".
I couldn't even reliably keep devices connected to the Beryl router WiFi.
All in all I was very dissatisfied and disappointed with this product.
return via Amazon?
I'm pretty sure this was $150 with a $15 coupon before…so same price
Ah never mind, it was $159
Iām kind of an idiot when it comes to home networking, but would this be an okay option for quarantining IoT devices in lieu of a VLAN?
probably get a thorough answer asking on gl.inet subreddit
I bought one and it turned up today, seems to be really good so far, easy to set up, decent speeds for what I'd want from a travel router (169DL 30UL repeating home network with no VPN client, 184DL 10UL when using VPN Client, when my mobile is at the same time getting 214DL and 33UL no VPN client)
However, DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.2.2
It restricts 5G Channel Bandwidth to 20MHZ when in repeater mode (repeating another WIFI as your own local network) causing it to be really slow, ships with 4.2.1 on it so keep it on that or roll it back manually.
I found that it wasn't seeing WiFi at work. Discovered that by default it's set to US region where certain bands (12 and 13 + others in 100 range) are not open to public use. Have to update country to Japan (I haven't tried for AU but should work as well) to unlock those but there is nothing in GUI to allow you to do that, meaning you have to do it via SSH. You can do it by following instructions here:
https://docs.gl-inet.com/en/2/app/ssh/
Command you need to run:
uci set wireless.mt798111.country=āJP'
uci set wireless.mt798112.country=āJP'
uci commit wireless
You can verify it worked by going to System - Advanced Settings and clicking on hyperlink to luci. Once there, go to Status-Channel Analysis and see if it displays bands 12 and 13 under mt79811 (2.4Ghz)
not sure if I should get this to upgrade from my mango.
Would like to have 5Ghz for some upcoming trips. A few hotels recently were locked to 5Ghz and I couldn't use my mango.