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[Used, eBay Plus] Asrock AMD Radeon RX 6800 Challenger Pro CLP 16G OC One Year Warranty $479 Delivered @MetroCom eBay

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Hi all, we have another batch of EX MINING GPUs arrived. Mainly RX 6800/6800XT. Different from what we got previously, this batch was mined in a dust free, temperature controlled data centre for around half year before shutting down. All of them are in new condition but no origianl box or other accessories. We will provide one year warranty on them. All the models are listed below, including some decent ones.

Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 NITRO+ $519
Sapphire Radeon RX 6800 XT Pulse $579 Sold Out
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 6800 XT GAMING OC $579
Asus TUF Radeon 6800 XT OC $599 Sold Out
ASRock Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming $599 Sold Out
MSI Radeon RX 6800 XT GAMING Z TRIO $599 Sold Out

Personally will recommend the Phantom Gaming and GAMING Z TRIO, very solid quality.

Enjoy the long weekend!
Cheers,
Jun

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  • Budju on 10/06/2023 - 12:00

    ex miner rough but nice card / price.

    • CalmLemons on 10/06/2023 - 12:14
      +4

      I mean does mining really hurt the cow / card?

      I’ve never had a graphics card fail after even 10 years

      • Budju on 10/06/2023 - 12:15
        +1

        it does / yeah

        • Zorlin on 10/06/2023 - 12:19
          -2

          you're gonna need a citation on that there bud

          'cause I've seen PLENTY of evidence to the contrary

          ref: LTT, various studies, basic thermal engineering, etc

          • Budju on 10/06/2023 - 12:19
            +6

            @Zorlin: You want evidence that capacitors don't last forever with continuous use?

            • Zorlin on 10/06/2023 - 12:20
              +2

              @Budju: I'm going to get tired of explaining this some day - mining is probably less harmful on average than gaming workloads.

              Running constantly at a stable temperature and workload vs running highly variable workloads, heating and cooling constantly, on top of the core clocks being WAY lower for most mining GPUs, etc…

              • Aequitas on 10/06/2023 - 19:24
                +4

                @Zorlin: What you're not considering is a gaming workload is probably like 10 hours a week on average. Whereas mining is 168 hours. So even if gaming is 5 times worse for the hardware, it still ends up a lot better.

            • Zorlin on 10/06/2023 - 12:24
              +12

              @Budju: Honestly? Yes, I want evidence that capacitors under continuous use fail at a rate that would matter to consumers as a result of mining in a way that wouldn't be the case for normal usage. Yes. I do.

              • netsurfer on 10/06/2023 - 13:12
                +2

                @Zorlin: The main issue with mining cards is that they ran for a long period of time. Not saying that will 100% hurt the cards, but most component makers quote their component failure rate using MTBF (mean time before failure) so "time" is part of that calculation. The other factor is these cards are likely to be from overseas. Generally, it is better to transport a graphics card in its original packaging box. With the sheer volume, it is unclear how these were transported. Also, we know there is a higher risk on higher end second hand cards. The VRAMs would run hotter (since they are higher speed ones).

                Capacitors, we know depending on the ones used, the expected lifespan (number of years) can be different. That's why you see M/B and GPU makers mentioning Japanese capacitors being used. We are seeing even Apple and Samsung switching from Japanese capacitors to more "cost effective" ones in their cheaper chargers.

                Budju did + vote the deal so do take that into consideration. It comes down to what you feel about getting a used card that had been running 24x7 for a long period of time vs one that probably spent 50% or less of that time gaming. However, it doesn't mean standard gaming used cards have no risk. The gamer could have overclocked the card.

                • Jasonio on 10/06/2023 - 14:45
                  +5

                  @netsurfer: Actually its cycles since they are mining constantly they arent thermally contracting and expanding due to being cooled down and heated up while under mining it stays constant throughout. Theres too much misinformation about this type of stuff generally if the miner ks educated it is most definalty kept in a better condition than the average gamer.

                  • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 10:26

                    @Jasonio: Since there's no knowing where it came from, I guess you have to decide what's worse: a normal user who didn't take particularly good care of it or a miner who didn't take particularly good care of it.

                    • Jasonio on 11/06/2023 - 11:23
                      +2

                      @Diji: Miners generally take care of them much better than general use because electrical fees are expensive so they undervolt and clock them for thermal effiency and power effiency and generally under air con. I hate miners also so no bias here.

                      • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 11:55

                        @Jasonio: I just meant in a general sense if you get unlucky, is it worse to get a card from a "bad gamer" or a "bad miner". I really dunno. This deal seems like better odds since the company sounds like they might actually help you should you happen to get a dud.

                    • Jasonio on 11/06/2023 - 11:27

                      @Diji: And btw where they came from and how they were kept is im the description.

                  • Budju on 12/06/2023 - 09:42

                    @Jasonio: Kept in better cooling conditions, however with significantly more use. It's wrong to claim that thousands of hours of use has little or no effect on the components, including capacitors, which have a finite life-span which improves with lower running temperatures. Given it's plausible that these cards could have as many as 20,000 hours of continued use, there is potential that these cards have significant wear on the components, REGARDLESS of how well they were thermally regulated.

                    All that being said, the 1 year warranty and quality of the card make it a risk that may be worth taking for this price.

                  • umexcuseme on 10/07/2023 - 10:39

                    @Jasonio: No, on video cards it's not cycles but thermal exposure. The caps on them are rated for a certain number of hours at a given temp. The more they're used, and the higher the temp, the quicker they will wear out. Mining will max out the card temp and do so 24/7, so it's the fastest way to wear out a video card.

        • Jasonio on 10/06/2023 - 14:44
          +1

          It actually doesnt, keep your misinformation to yourself.

          • netsurfer on 11/06/2023 - 21:35
            +2

            @Jasonio:

            All of them are in new condition

            But OP mentioned this batch was mined. For eBay listing, generally, I feel it is better for the seller to under promise, rather than sugarcoating.

            It's easy to go good miners would under volt, but the opposite could be true too. Bad miners can overclock VRAM. The reality is basically these are used cards and there is luck involved. Science is less of an issue, it's more about the people who used those card and how they used them. If it is just for half an year (assuming that's true), is it safe to assume they are seasoned miners?

            GPU fans would have been used for longer than standard.

      • Budju on 10/06/2023 - 12:19
        +4

        I've had one fail after like two years, but you're right they are usually long lasting. Electrical components have limited life span and mining is 24/7 constant potentially stressful operation of those components.

        • Zorlin on 10/06/2023 - 12:21
          -5

          Okay, so how big is your sample size? I've had a non-mining GPU fail after ONE year.

          • Budju on 10/06/2023 - 12:22
            -3

            @Zorlin: Did I say don't buy it? Don't be a simp.

            • Zorlin on 10/06/2023 - 12:22
              -4

              @Budju: Wow, what an enlightened response.

        • digitalaxon on 10/06/2023 - 13:00
          +1

          I wish all components were 'stress' tested for a week (motherboards, GPUs) so that any defects or 'borderline' components fail, and you end up buying hardware that has been 'road tested' as it were.

          A part of me is happy to see older / used hardware being resold to others and giving hardware a second lease of life and allowing those on tight budgets to afford technology that they otherwise might not and the warranty is a nice touch.

          The other part is sad miners are able to recoupe some of the cost of the GPU's which they had a hand in helping inflate and screw over gaming enthusiasts (https://www.jonpeddie.com/news/crypto-minings-half-a-billion…). Remember those 3090 ~$2400 RRP's for almost $4k? Thank's guys (and greedy distributors)

          • freefall101 on 10/06/2023 - 14:29

            @digitalaxon: The problem is stress testing components is bad for them and likely to reduce life. While it would result in less warranty claims, it would also shorten the life of everything.

            That and it’s incredible expensive to do for a week on everything

          • FabMan on 10/06/2023 - 15:17
            +1

            @digitalaxon: I didn't mine, but mining is just another form of making money, just like you do for a job.

            • digitalaxon on 11/06/2023 - 11:09

              @FabMan: True, but when I do my job it's to support a business that sells life-saving medical equipment which as far as I'm aware doesn't cause massive increases in the price of graphics hardware.

              • FabMan on 11/06/2023 - 11:48

                @digitalaxon: Do you drive? Because if there was less people using fuel in their cars, fuel would be cheaper. Damn those drivers!

                Do you live in a populous area? If there was less people wanting homes in populated areas, house prices would decrease. Damn those city dwellers.

                If there was less…

                An individual miner didn't cause the GPU price hike, like your job doesn't cause a big issue, but the cumulative effect can be negative. Just driving uses fuel or electricity, buying cars increases demand, living in certain areas reduces supply, favouring certain foods, and so on in attend can have an impact. Miners saw a way to make money, it didn't directly hurt anyone, but demand caused a price hike. Blaming them seems odd. I was hit by the price hike, but it is part of technology and change. You want it your way and don't want others to have in their way.

                Miners could blame gamers for keeping prices high, if less people bought GPUs for gaming, they could have gotten their mining equipment cheaper. Damn those gamers!

            • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 12:01
              +2

              @FabMan: Jobs usually provide a service or create something of value, which mining doesn't.

              • FabMan on 11/06/2023 - 14:32

                @Diji: Since when is currency not something of value? Do you tell those that go to a minting office their job creates nothing of value? The colorful useless bits plastic in our wallets only has value because we as a society believe it does, crypto was trying to do the same thing. Things start from nothing, like the business at home, most flounder, but some grow and become big things. Crypto has done that for some of them and not others, Bitcoin and Ethereum are still valuable and well regarded, while others not so. Though it may all crumble, so do many enterprises, and many successful ones have been shit on throughout history.

                • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 18:13
                  +1

                  @FabMan: None of what you said convinces me that mining cryptocurrency is of value to society and I don't think people who work at a mint are allowed to speculate on the value of the coins and then sell them when they're worth a lot so that doesn't really parallel crypto miners.

                  • FabMan on 11/06/2023 - 18:51

                    @Diji: Finance guys are always speculating worth of assets before buying them. People will be paid upon belief of worth, goods prices are set based upon on a belief of worth. You don't have to believe it, crypo literally has value as you can exchange it for Australian or other international currencies. I don't own any of them either, I just see that it has worth to enough people, therefore it has value.

                    • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 19:36
                      +1

                      @FabMan: I think you're misunderstanding what I mean by "value". I don't mean monetary.

                      • FabMan on 11/06/2023 - 19:54

                        @Diji: If currency has a value to society, then crypto is another form(s) of currency, that is all.

                        • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 19:59

                          @FabMan: Just because currencies exist that are of value, that doesn't mean any currency must be of value.

                          • FabMan on 11/06/2023 - 20:23

                            @Diji: Just because you don't see value in something, doesn't mean it doesn't have value.

                            • Diji on 11/06/2023 - 20:40

                              @FabMan: Do you actually believe that I'm under the impression that I speak for the entirety of humanity? I think it should be obvious that my postings are my own opinion.

                              • FabMan on 12/06/2023 - 16:11

                                @Diji: "Jobs usually provide a service or create something of value, which mining doesn't."

                                That is an absolute, so yes, it does look like you speak for the entirety of humanity.

                                • Diji on 12/06/2023 - 16:38

                                  @FabMan: Sorry, but I'm not going to preface all of my posts with "in my opinion".

      • FireRunner on 10/06/2023 - 12:39
        +3

        This is one of those difficult questions to get a definitive answer.
        There’s lots of variables: how long was it mined for, how much care did the owner take, any undervolting or overclocking memory, the make/model of card and so on
        The time and resources required to scientifically evaluate the effects of mining is not worthwhile so we can only speculate
        My guess would be that if well looked after, it would probably be the same as a normally used GPU.

        • cobknob on 10/06/2023 - 12:58

          I 2nd most of what you said but with all electronics the longer it's on the more it deteriorates however you wanna describe it. Obviously taking cards to extremes will have an impact, and cards failing early.. well manufacturing isn't perfect lol - quality and quality control are here today but are dependent on how much a consumer pays for a product and how a company wants to market themselves vs competition.

      • MagnamoniousRex on 10/06/2023 - 20:07
        +2

        Regardless as long as they declare it up front there's no issue.

      • Evanlet on 10/06/2023 - 22:58

        The fact that there is still such a strong debate on both sides means that a definitive conclusion has not been reached. In other words, no one side can produce a strong enough argument to end the discussion.

        Ergo, no one has been able to prove that an ex miner card is any rougher than a card that has been abused on AAA games daily - or at least the difference is so minuscule that any difference is limited to theoretical debate and not perceivable in the real world.

  • buffalo bill on 10/06/2023 - 12:03
    +7

    6800 has been $700 before, no real need to buy an ex-miner at this prime IMO.

    • snep on 10/06/2023 - 14:25
      +3

      It has been, but AU stock on Navi 21 cards (especially the 6800/xt) is pretty much non-existent at this point. I wouldn't count on getting those deals again.

    • Dienk on 10/06/2023 - 14:31

      What? This card is not worth $700 new.

      • xrailgun on 10/06/2023 - 15:24
        +2

        if you're bored, go check out fb marketplace. plenty of these, used, ~$800-$1200.

      • scud70 on 10/06/2023 - 15:24

        He is saying new ones 🙂

    • JerraJones on 10/06/2023 - 18:22
      +1

      The last time 6800 was 700 was 10 months ago…

      I agree these cards shouldn't even cost this much new at this point but amd/nvidia are refusing to budge, especially now that AI is exploding the stocks of these companies. Pretty much eth mining 2.0.

  • cyrax83 on 10/06/2023 - 12:17
    +3

    $579 seems like an ok price for second hand XT right? I think new they are $800-900?

    • Wicko on 10/06/2023 - 12:19
      +1

      Its pretty good, just no tell of how hard it was pushed for mining

    • ChatCPT on 10/06/2023 - 13:11
      -3

      just buy a new one. geez

      • Dienk on 10/06/2023 - 14:32
        +4

        Yes, for How much?

    • Eeples on 16/07/2023 - 10:04

      They are $800-$900 new for US stock eg on Amazon.

      $1200 in Oz.

  • 8millpond on 10/06/2023 - 12:30

    I have i5 6600 with Rx570 on a Gigabyte H170-HD3. Worth upgrade?

    • Wonderfool on 10/06/2023 - 13:04
      +1

      Yes, but you'll need A system overhaul, as the CPU will be the bottleneck. Frankly, with your cpu, you're basically close to the limit of what gpu it'll support.

      That being said, it'll still be an upgrade nonetheless.

    • barge-in hunter on 10/06/2023 - 13:05

      This would give you amazing performance compared to an rx570 - but you’ll be bottlenecked by the cpu reasonably hard

      I made a few assumptions here, but you can see ~40% bottleneck at 1080p, and ~20% at 1440p.

      If you’re on a budget, you’ll probably find a better match for a decent amount cheaper 2nd hand. Maybe even in the generation before - like an rtx 2080 or rx5700 xt

    • nigel deborah on 10/06/2023 - 13:55
      +2

      I upgraded my i7 6700k build to a 3070 (from 1080). It made a massive improvement and so far I've not noticed significant bottlenecking (games I play at 1440p, I've been within 10 percent of 3070 benchmark FPS, and my 3070 is a compact model).

      It's going to depend a lot on your resolution and target FPS though. The lower the resolution/ higher the FPS the more likely for CPU bottleneck (you might be approaching or above your monitor refresh at that stage, so it may not matter).

      Some games which are CPU dependant are also not going to improve significantly, probably you'll keep the same FPS but may be able to improve graphical fidelity (e.g. city skylines, civ 5, stellaris).

      I've also heard games tend to feel a bit smoother on more powerful CPUs, better frame timing and that kind of thing. But I've not got any first hand experience really.

    • stephendt on 16/07/2023 - 17:58

      That CPU will bottleneck a lot. See if you can find a mutant CPU for your board. Then it'll be fine at higher res but lower framerates

  • zubzub on 10/06/2023 - 12:33
    +4

    Lots of unknown variables here. The one year warranty definitely makes it more appealing. If a card is flogged from mining, you will most likely know straight after you get it or soon after.

    • Fuego on 10/06/2023 - 14:56

      The warranty is a scam. Australian Consumer Law covers the card for at least several years, if not more.

      • FabMan on 10/06/2023 - 15:18
        +3

        For used products?

        • Fuego on 10/06/2023 - 19:34

          Yes, there's no requirement for the product to be advertised as new for it to be covered under ACL.

          • MagnamoniousRex on 10/06/2023 - 20:11

            @Fuego: This is true.

            Keep in mind it only applies to businesses. A person who sells you one on Gumtree or eBay isn't bound by the ACL.

      • zubzub on 10/06/2023 - 15:27
        +1

        For new, yeah. I could be wrong but I don’t think the same applies for used products?

        • Fuego on 10/06/2023 - 19:35

          Applies to 2nd hand, just doesn't apply to private sales. There's no requirement for the product to be advertised as new for it to be covered under ACL.

          • zubzub on 10/06/2023 - 20:45

            @Fuego: Interesting.

            Rep, would like to know what you say on this?

            • FabMan on 10/06/2023 - 20:49

              @zubzub: Could they successfully argue that a year warranty is sufficient for a used product?

              • zubzub on 10/06/2023 - 22:43
                +1

                @FabMan: I honestly thought the 1 year was a cool bonus. But rules are rules. Curious to know if the rep will respond.

      • sharky_k on 10/06/2023 - 18:29
        -1

        This is a second hand product with past mining use disclosed. They have no obligation to provide any warranty at all.
        The fact that it has one definitely adds value to the product, although I have no idea what they are like to work with if a claim is required.

        • Fuego on 10/06/2023 - 19:36
          +1

          The only purpose for companies to disclose warranties is to attempt to restrict a consumer's rights under ACL. Warranties in scenarios like this are a scam and only used to damage the consumer's legal recourse.

        • parkies on 11/06/2023 - 06:33

          While it's not completely clear how much coverage they are obligated to provide, you're definitely wrong
          https://legalvision.com.au/i-sell-second-hand-goods-do-the-c…

          • Fuego on 10/07/2023 - 16:43

            @parkies: You linked an article explaining why ACL covers second-hand goods. Not only is your article completely irrelevant to my comment, but it actually further enforces my comment as to why warranties are scams due to the existence of ACL.

            • parkies on 11/07/2023 - 19:59

              @Fuego: My reply wasn't to you.

              • Fuego on 12/07/2023 - 08:16

                @parkies: Sorry mate, I received a notification yesterday and assumed it was a response.

      • umexcuseme on 10/07/2023 - 10:42

        You're right but it doesn't change the fact that ACL is routinely ignored by almost every business and there's nothing you can do except complain to the ACCC who will do nothing.

  • kml22 on 10/06/2023 - 12:45
    +2

    I wouldn't risk it with ex-miner card.

    • Jasonio on 11/06/2023 - 11:24

      Why is that ? Misinformation ?

    • stephendt on 16/07/2023 - 18:01

      I would. Just clean and re-paste, job done.

  • corgi-runner on 10/06/2023 - 12:54
    +4

    I’ve bought from these guys before (ex-mining 6600 for a cheap Hackintosh machine) and the card came in the original box in great condition and runs amazingly.

  • Wonderfool on 10/06/2023 - 12:58
    +1

    Whelp, right in my price range, impulse bought.

    I'll let you guys know in a few years if there's any issues lol.

    Now, let see if I need to upgrade my cpu too for Minecraft…

  • lonewolf on 10/06/2023 - 13:49
    +1

    i take it, its not a great upgrade to go from a 5700XT to a 6800XT, I am sure there is improvement, but probably not a huge amount and i would be better off skipping a generation ?

    • locomofo on 10/06/2023 - 14:07
      +1

      I wouldn't make that jump with an ex-mining card.

      A new 6800XT? A case could be made for that, but for this deal I can't imagine that it's worth the risk for your circumstances.

      • lonewolf on 10/06/2023 - 14:19

        yeah thats what i was thinking. damn will just keep waiting. I usually update my main gaming pc and then move that card to my secondary gaming pc and that card to my third gaming pc (different locations hence why i have multiple). I presume ideally i move to the 4000 series or 7000 series depending on AMD or nvidia. Is my 5700XT the same generation as the Nvidia 2070?

        • locomofo on 10/06/2023 - 14:21
          +1

          yeah it is, people are still rocking 1080s though so it's not that big a deal. I'm sitting on a 6600XT atm, waiting for either the 7900 XTX or 4080 to drop to ~1300 myself to justify dropping that much money.

        • sharky_k on 10/06/2023 - 18:35
          +1

          Yep, same gen as Nvidia 2000 cards.
          6800xt is decent improvement over 5700xt, but really just the difference between running things in high/ultra settings vs medium/high settings so not world changing.
          Although, sadly it may be a while before we see something better value.
          Fingers crossed for 7700xt/7800xt whenever AMD releases them.

    • snep on 10/06/2023 - 14:32
      +3

      It's a pretty substantial improvement - according to Tom's Hardware's numbers double the performance at 1440p and 4k. The 16gb memory and support for RT are also worth noting.

  • stingyAF on 10/06/2023 - 14:22
    +1

    This is a no-brainer. If it's stuffed when you get it then send it back, else you have a years warranty.

  • dexx on 10/06/2023 - 14:39
    +1

    How would this one (6800) compare with a 6700XT? I see the 6700XT is new for about this price.

  • aec on 10/06/2023 - 20:18

    i even want to sell my 3800 for this (seriously, and then wait for a good deal for 4800/4700)

    • Zorlin on 10/06/2023 - 21:51

      what's a 3800? do you mean a 3080?

      • aec on 10/06/2023 - 22:57

        lol
        yes, 3080

  • notaccel on 10/06/2023 - 20:45

    I think the MSI model is showing the 6900XT photos. 6800 XT model only has 2 8 pin connectors where the 6900 XT has three

    • sessionzero on 10/06/2023 - 22:37
      +1

      The naming is a bit confusing but the 6800XT Gaming Z does have 3x 8pin power connectors, while the Gaming X only has 2.

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