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  • bboz on 14/09/2023 - 15:13
    +13

    Did Putin approve?

    • Plimsol on 14/09/2023 - 15:19
      +6

      He’s written the foreword

    • gingerscale on 14/09/2023 - 16:53
      -8

      How dar elon want more deaths grrrrr TRIGGERED

  • Drpepper666 on 14/09/2023 - 15:16
    +110

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    • bboz on 14/09/2023 - 15:19
      +5

      We have a fanboi downvoting all 'negative' comments, including mine. I have upvoted yours to compensate.

      • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 15:39
        +19

        There's a bunch of people like that on ozb.
        I remember talking about him and some of his absurdities, which I was entirely stating facts, yet 2 people rushed to neg me.
        Some people are truly living up to the Valid criticism - Elon musk meme

        • Gunnar on 14/09/2023 - 15:57
          +1

          That’s because the Elon crowd do not believe in facts.

          … In most instances, they would struggle to spell the word ‘fact’

          • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 16:42
            +2

            @Gunnar:

            That’s because the Elon crowd do not believe in facts.

            Only you know what facts are. That is exactly how facts work…

            • Gunnar on 14/09/2023 - 18:18

              @1st-Amendment: I’d upvote you twice if I could for spelling facts correctly. Well done, I’m so proud of you!

        • scud70 on 14/09/2023 - 17:21
          +1

          Let's all relax … They'll all be leaving for Mars with him soon enough.. 👀

        • cerealJay on 14/09/2023 - 17:34

          yet 2 people rushed to neg me

          Oh no! Poor you, getting negged for "entirely stating facts". Were you okay after than trauma?

          • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 18:27
            +1

            @cerealJay: I was clearly less hurt than the people who rushed to neg me in defense of a billionaire that will never know of their existence.

            • cerealJay on 14/09/2023 - 20:08
              +1

              @[Deactivated]:

              rushed to neg me in defense of a billionaire

              How did they "rush"? did you hear a whooshing noise when they negged you?

              Perhaps they were defending a person who wasn't there to defend themselves from your hate, and didn't care what's in their bank account?

              • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 21:11
                +2

                @cerealJay: The comments were neg'd seconds after leaving them.
                "Rushed" wasn't meant literally.

                Ah yes, my "hate". I dislike Elon for what he has said and done. (Some of which I've commented elsewhere)
                Negging someones ozbargain comments isn't "defending" the person being spoken about.
                The fact that they couldn't actually refute the points made and instead neg'd anyone who spoke poorly or about any events that may reflect poorly on Elon should say enough.

                Keep reaching though man, you might come up with something valid eventually.

                Also, I'm not the one that neg'd you.

                • cerealJay on 15/09/2023 - 12:14

                  @[Deactivated]:

                  they couldn't actually refute the points made

                  "This one time, I made some real good points that nobody could refute…" lol cool story bro. :-)

                  I dislike Elon for what he has said and done.

                  Okay but he's said and done a lot. We need innovation and risk-taking in the electric car and solar power industries to unstick our reliance on damaging energy sources. Reliable cheap satellite internet for remote areas and technology like that. At least Musk blurts out exactly what he's thinking, so you always know. Unlike someone like Bill Gates where his words are carefully curated, listing prepared talking points and never deviating from sleepy generic corporate-speak. With Musk, his childish stuff is of no consequence, cringe at worst, funny on occasion. The legions of angry copy-pasta meme warriors descending to pile on the "dislike" is lame.

                  Keep reaching though man, you might come up with something valid eventually.

                  Reached. Validated.

                  • [Deactivated] on 15/09/2023 - 12:20

                    @cerealJay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5jq7iQsxQg

                    • cerealJay on 15/09/2023 - 12:41
                      -1

                      @[Deactivated]: won't be clicking your link… try using words? have I left you speechless? :-)

                      • [Deactivated] on 15/09/2023 - 12:49
                        -1

                        @cerealJay: You strawmanned, then used whataboutism and ignored the terrible things he has done.
                        You didn't leave me speechless, I just realized that I'm basically arguing with a brick wall.
                        But go on, be scared of a youtube link.

      • RetroMetro on 14/09/2023 - 17:43
        +9

        I never got the great hate for Musk, like sure he says some things that trigger people and buying twitter wasn't a very good move, but he's done lots of cool innovative things like tesla, star link ect. In all honestly, I doubt he really has much of an effect on people's lives which is why I don't get the hate. I think there are much worse people out there that deserve the hate spotlight.

        • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 18:39
          +7

          Hmm lets see.
          He "allegedly" sexually harassed a spaceX flight attendant, offered to pay her if she did stuff and then denied it, yet paid 250k to her and made her sign an NDA about that exact situation.

          He falsely accused a man of being a pedophile, all because the man saved the kids and their coach that were stuck in the flooded caves. (Because elon wanted to be the hero but didn't get to be)

          He keeps personal photos of his exs even through multiple relationships, including a marriage and divorce. Then releases one of said photos publicly.

          He treated one of his own kids so badly that they cut ties with him entirely.

          There's a lot more that could be said about him.
          He deserves all the hate he gets AND MORE.

          P.s. This isn't me shitting on tesla, spaceX or any of the other companies he owns. Those are companies built by hard working, very smart people who deserve a lot more credit than what they get.

          • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 19:42
            +6

            @[Deactivated]: Who woulda guessed, loser fanboys can't argue the facts.
            They just neg 🥱

            Fanboys: I don't get the hate against him

            People with functioning brains: Here's a whole list of things he has done that are wrong and justify people's negative feelings towards him

            Fanboys: If I close my eyes and neg you, what you said doesn't count.

            • Gunnar on 14/09/2023 - 19:51
              +1

              @[Deactivated]: Remember: Only you know what facts are. That is exactly how facts work…

              • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 19:52

                @Gunnar: Anything I do not know, is not a fact 🤣

                • Gunnar on 14/09/2023 - 19:58
                  +1

                  @[Deactivated]: Anything you read and ignore, is not a fact

                  Anything you read on a nut job conspiracy website that provides you with confirmation bias about your lord and savior Elon, is a fact

                  • [Deactivated] on 14/09/2023 - 20:49

                    @Gunnar: You're right. I did not source my information from facebook or twitter profiles with $TSLA in their bio. :( Can't trust my info

            • RetroMetro on 15/09/2023 - 07:57

              @[Deactivated]: Lol you just assumed I negged you and I'm a musk fanboy. I was just saying there are way worse people that actually affect people's lives that don't get as much hate

              • [Deactivated] on 15/09/2023 - 08:58

                @RetroMetro: I never assumed YOU negd me.
                People did neg me though and I was laughing at them doing exactly like I'd said in comments elsewhere.

                People being "worse" doesn't change how much they get talked about. Especially because the deal post is about Elon.
                Elon owns one of the biggest social media platforms and is one of the richest men in the world.
                So he gets more hate because he's in your face a lot more.

                • try2bhelpful on 15/09/2023 - 09:08
                  +1

                  @[Deactivated]: No, he is being called on his views. Also the platform he owns has allowed people to make abusive racist comments and is currently losing a stack of money because advertisers don’t want their products associated with it. There is an old saying that the way to make a small fortune is to start with a bigger one. Being rich doesn’t make you invincible, it just takes longer for your sins to catch up with you.

                • RetroMetro on 15/09/2023 - 09:17

                  @[Deactivated]: "Who woulda guessed, loser fanboys can't argue the facts. They just neg 🥱"

                  "Fanboys: I don't get the hate against him"

                  Ehhh you were calling me a fanboy when I just said I don't get the hate.

                  • [Deactivated] on 15/09/2023 - 09:26

                    @RetroMetro: Go ahead and view the votes on my original comment. You'll see 5 negs.
                    Not a single person disputed what I said, they negd me instead.

                    The comment youre referring to was not me calling you a fanboy, it was aimed at the people who were liking your comment and then neging mine.

        • CowFrogHorse on 14/09/2023 - 23:16
          +3

          Yeh must be swell guy, father ran a slave mine in Africa for starters, now you know where he got his money and his attitude towards workers which he has continued in Twitter and Tesla today.

          • Gunnar on 16/09/2023 - 10:08
            -1

            @CowFrogHorse: Pretty ‘impressive’ when you ran a slave mine, are (probably) a DV perpetrator, but you’re still not the biggest POS in your family

            • CowFrogHorse on 19/09/2023 - 10:09

              @Gunnar: Can you read ?

              Where did i say me or my family ran a slave mine ? I was clearly pointing out that Elons father ran a mine in Africa under those conditions in those times.

              GO read about it on wiki…

              • Gunnar on 19/09/2023 - 10:19

                @CowFrogHorse: I think you misinterpreted my point. I wasn’t referring to you personally, ‘you’ in the context of what I wrote was in reference to Elon’s dad (long story short I was agreeing with your sentiments, albeit worded differently)

    • M00Cow on 14/09/2023 - 15:23

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    • azm on 14/09/2023 - 16:43
      -1

      It showed your intelligence. At least some people achieved something.

      • pais on 14/09/2023 - 16:47
        +13

        Glad you are here to defend the poor, defenseless American oligarchs.

        • cerealJay on 14/09/2023 - 17:44

          Sounds like you justify abusing people based on their wealth status. If so, the other comment has a point…. when intelligence and achievement is absent, what fills the void is low quality noise. "MuSk - BaD MaN!" LOL.

          • pais on 14/09/2023 - 18:08
            +3

            @cerealJay: Neither my comment nor the parent are abusive towards Musk? How fragile are you?

            • cerealJay on 14/09/2023 - 20:32
              +2

              @pais: The fragility is yours, since I never claimed you were abusive. I said it "sounds like you justify…" If you can't understand the meaning, that's on you.

              I have 2 seconds, I'll help you out:

              • Someone above posted a comment listing toilet paper as alternative to the book about Musk.
              • Someone else called that out as lacking intelligence (many comments in this thread are gleefully Musk-Hate).
              • Along comes "pais" to the party! Pais doesn't like the criticism of the toilet paper comment.
              • Pais adds his own sarcastic quip about "defending a poor oligarch"…
              • I commented that it sounds like you and others justify the Musk-hate on the basis of his wealth.

              Hopefully you get it now, but you never know. Haters gonna hate, etc.

              • pais on 14/09/2023 - 20:41
                +2

                @cerealJay: Ah, so just a total non-sequitur. Good one.

      • johnwinkle on 14/09/2023 - 20:13
        +1

        all you achieved tonight is spending your free time defending billionaires to strangers online

      • M00Cow on 15/09/2023 - 22:49

        Hallelujah brother! praise EV Jesus

    • iori57 on 14/09/2023 - 17:18

      Never thought I'd find an unrelated good deal in the comments. Thanks I always buy these from Coles seems like they are much cheaper in Amazon!

  • RetroMetro on 14/09/2023 - 15:18
    +8

    Here before the keyboard warriors arrive.

    • kehuehue on 14/09/2023 - 15:25
      +3

      18 mins, 28 comments, 41 clicks :D

    • gakko on 14/09/2023 - 17:55
      +2

      Have opinion = keyboard warrior?

  • NinjaChicken on 14/09/2023 - 15:19
    +1

    The US Government should buy all remaining copies of the book and send them to Ukraine with instructions to use them as fuel for their wood fires during the upcoming winter…

    • bboz on 14/09/2023 - 15:20
      +5

      The smell of musk would be awful

    • bargaino on 14/09/2023 - 15:32
      +2

      I think they prefer the Starlinks.

  • organamisms on 14/09/2023 - 15:19

    Cheers, needed more thick ply TP, this'll do nicely!

    • Gunnar on 14/09/2023 - 15:58
      +6

      Why would you treat your own excrement so badly?

  • drhip on 14/09/2023 - 15:23
    +3

    How to have 11 kids and create a football team ;)

    • bdl on 14/09/2023 - 15:46
      +3

      …with names that commentators won't be able to pronounce :)

    • knackers on 14/09/2023 - 16:41

      ..and admonish the working-poor for not doing the same

  • pharcyde on 14/09/2023 - 15:23
    -4

    B-but social media algorithms told me Musk is bad.

    • SBOB on 14/09/2023 - 15:31
      +5

      And the book likely may reinforce some of those points :)

      • Andard on 15/09/2023 - 10:13

        lol 3 years ago everyone was worshipping him.

        • PiratePete1911 on 15/09/2023 - 12:57
          +1

          I think its been about 5 years now, I remember the submarine incident really lifted the veil for a lot of people.

    • linkindan on 14/09/2023 - 16:36

      You’re about to be algorithmed out of OzBargain

    • nGu on 14/09/2023 - 17:14
      +2

      He is the social media and he controls the algo.

      https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/16/twitter-d…

      • pharcyde on 14/09/2023 - 19:18
        -1

        Unironically spreading The Guardian conspiracy theories. Lmao.

  • shroomish on 14/09/2023 - 15:24
    +2

    Alan partridge as a billionaire tech bro.

  • awaiko on 14/09/2023 - 15:37
    +3

    I enjoyed the review here.

    There are cheaper doorstops out there and summer's around the corner, so winter fuel isn't necessary at the moment.

  • xjf748 on 14/09/2023 - 15:48
    +3

    I'd like to read the book written by Yilong Ma!

  • mindymoo on 14/09/2023 - 15:51
    +4

    Thanks OP, great price, purchased!

  • radissimo on 14/09/2023 - 15:52

    but, but, but…, will buying book will make him even more rich?

    • dealboot on 14/09/2023 - 16:36
      +3

      It's a Biography, he is not the author so wouldn't get any royalties

  • grasstown on 14/09/2023 - 15:57
    -1

    Shill

  • Gdsamp on 14/09/2023 - 16:27
    +11

    they hate to see an african american succeed

    • linkindan on 14/09/2023 - 16:38
      +1

      They’ll never have one be President

  • kungfuman on 14/09/2023 - 16:28
    +1

    why does this remind me of the Steve jobs book the cover :D

    • kungfuman on 14/09/2023 - 16:28
      +3

      o its the same author I think.

    • dealboot on 14/09/2023 - 16:37
      +1

      Both by Walter Isaacson

    • linkindan on 14/09/2023 - 16:37
      +6

      “That many people can’t be wrong”

      Unless they work for media

    • pais on 14/09/2023 - 16:45
      +3

      his tweets.

      They're called posts now, not tweets. Twitter and tweets are dead because daddy fetishises the letter x.

    • Gehirn on 14/09/2023 - 16:46
      +7

      The book itself literally hates on him in its summary with promise of more inside, and its a primary source.

    • knackers on 14/09/2023 - 16:58
      +12

      Unfettered capitalism has been tried and failed miserably… and yet here we are again. The billionaire shareholder class, with their political donations, rigged the system so the MOST profitable corporations pay the least amount of effective tax. But hey, you too can become a billionaire and wield the same corrupting influence.

      • Grok on 14/09/2023 - 17:25
        -4

        No it's socialism that has failed everywhere and its father, communism doesn't even bear thinking about.

        Even the Nordic kind of socialism is being wound back and now that their population is growing with the new migrants they have welcomed from different cultures, it should be an absolute riot!

        Literally and figuratively!

        • knackers on 14/09/2023 - 17:31
          +6

          Define socialism and what is being wound back in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland and Finland. Be specific.

          • Grok on 15/09/2023 - 10:43
            -3

            @knackers: Do your own homework, you need to venture outside your bubble.

            Why not simply Google “Sweden wound back socialism”. Plenty of links show up on the first few pages.

            The history of the failure of the Sweden’s move to increase socialism in the 1970s and 1980s is now a case study on the issue.

        • Ghost47 on 14/09/2023 - 17:42
          +2

          Extremes on either side aren't a good thing.

      • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 17:29
        -2

        Unfettered capitalism has been tried and failed miserably

        Lol. Define failure? If you mean the most prosperous and peaceful times in human history then that is a weird definition of failure.

        But this is the entitled generation. Where the very best is still not good enough!

        • nGu on 14/09/2023 - 17:43
          +2

          peaceful times in human history

          peaceful for whom

          • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 19:06
            +2

            @nGu:

            peaceful for whom

            More people than at any time in history.

            Let me know how your proposed alternative compares.

            • nGu on 14/09/2023 - 19:54
              +1

              @1st-Amendment: How would you quantify or define it? And for whom is it peaceful? You can't just say "for everyone, ever".

              For instance, do you measure the deaths per capita overall due to war? Or do you look towards the Global Peace Index? And then how would you factor in world defence spending as a deterrent?

              Australia is currently ramping up AUKUS military exercises and expenses like the $300bn sub deal on top of the $50bn yearly spend, poured millions into that satellite array in the desert, we're stockpiling ammo after the RU/UKR invasion and we're gearing up for a potential China/Taiwan conflict in the next few years. And we are not even fighting a war.

              Peaceful times, yes?

              • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 20:56
                -2

                @nGu:

                How would you quantify or define it?

                Define 'it'? This makes no sense

                And for whom is it peaceful? You can't just say "for everyone, ever".

                Well I never said that. More people enjoy peace now than at anytime in history and that is largely due to capitalism. Free markets and free expression improves lives. The data is clear on this.

                do you measure the deaths per capita overall due to war?

                Poverty, life expectancy, child mortality, literacy, economy choose a metric, they are all improving due to capitalism.

                And we are not even fighting a war.

                That's right. Capitalism provides the means to deter war and it's doing a great job at it.

        • knackers on 14/09/2023 - 17:54
          +3

          Wages have been stagnant for 30-40 yrs. Home ownership as percentage of population is decreasing. I bet the "entitled generation" just love living with mum and dad into their 30s.

          • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 19:14
            +1

            @knackers:

            I bet the "entitled generation" just love living with mum and dad

            Your version of tyranny is being too afraid to move out of your parents house, for almost every other generation it was persecution and death.
            You have no idea how anything works but you want to tear it all down all because you demand a cheap house in a capital city. This truly is entitlement.

            Here's a tip for you. Before you condemn the very thing that gives you peace, freedom, prosperity, and life, you should at least sample the alternative. Go visit any of the 'non-capitalist' utopia's around the world and tell me how they compare. I'll wait while you report back…

            • Gehirn on 14/09/2023 - 19:51

              @1st-Amendment: Generations fearing persecution and death in Australia? You must be talking about Indigenous Australians.

              • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 20:03
                -1

                @Gehirn:

                Generations fearing persecution and death in Australia?

                Pick up a history book sometime then you won't sound so clueless.

                You must be talking about Indigenous Australians.

                Life was harder for everyone in previous generations. Playing the race card only make you look foolish.

                • Gehirn on 14/09/2023 - 20:29

                  @1st-Amendment: You seem to know it all from your previous messages so I want to hear from you these whole Australian generations fearing persecution and death.

                  You're right, life was really hard for previous Indigenous generations. Especially their persecution and death from early Australians and the ongoing effects from that.

            • knackers on 14/09/2023 - 19:57
              +5

              @1st-Amendment: Here's a tip for you… an alternative to UNFETTERED capitalism is capitalism with checks and balances. Mum and dad milkbar owners pay 25% corp tax while Exxon shovels billions into tax havens to whittle down their effective tax rate to 3% - 5%. If you cannot see a problem with that you're not that bright or ethical.

              And dude, I'm a 45 yr old engineer. I got in well before the average home hit 800k. Mech engineer's wages haven't moved, so if I was 25 today (with the same education and experience) I'd be priced out of the market. Under 35s will replace the boomer generation soon and they will rise. Hunger will always crush fabricated anger and no one is buying your nonsense.

              • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 20:32

                @knackers:

                an alternative to UNFETTERED capitalism is capitalism with checks and balances.

                There is no such thing as 'UNFETTERED capitalism'. All economic systems have checks and balances, so you might have to think this through a bit harder…

                Mum and dad milkbar owners pay 25% corp tax while Exxon shovels billions into tax havens to whittle down their effective tax rate to 3% - 5%.
                If you cannot see a problem with that you're not that bright or ethical.

                Is this what constitutes an argument where you're from? 'If you don't agree with me you're not very bright'?

                Let's use your own example to demonstrate where you failed to think this through.
                Let's say Mum and Dad make $100k from the milkbar and pay $25k in taxes. Not enough for one teacher's or nurse's salary.
                Exxon pay about $3B/year in tax in Australia alone (https://www.exxonmobil.com.au/-/media/australia/files/newsro…), and employ 60,000 people globally who all pay tax too. That's 60,000 with jobs, paying taxes, all buying stuff, keeping local businesses going etc etc. The total contribution from this enterprise to the public purse is in the multiple billions each and every year. They also happen to manufacturer lot of things everyone needs on a daily basis.

                All the free stuff you demand, schools and hospitals, roads, NBN, etc is paid for by companies like this.
                Which is better $25k in taxes or $billions?

                if I was 25 today (with the same education and experience) I'd be priced out of the market.

                So do what every other generation did and move somewhere cheaper, or choose different career. Me, my parents, my grandparents and great-grand parents all moved to follow work and a better life. Australia was built on people like this. Why do you think you're entitled to a cheaper house in a large high demand, highly developed capital city just because?

                Under 35s will replace the boomer generation soon and they will rise.

                Are you 45 or 25? This is childish talk of a 20 something Che Guevara Tshirt wearing university socialist.

                If you think about this just a little bit, you will see that high house prices are caused by low supply, and low supply is caused by an artificially restricted market (ie anti-capitalism).
                If you really really want cheaper houses, you should be demanding more capitalism to increase supply, not less.

                Hunger will always crush fabricated anger

                No-one is hungry and the only one angry here is you.

                and no one is buying your nonsense.

                Again you have it backwards. Everyone is buying and selling, that is precisely why capitalism works so well.

                But don't just take my word for it. Here's is the data that shows the benefits capitalism has brought us all: https://shortfall.blog/the-deep-optimism-manifesto-262f273c9…

                • knackers on 14/09/2023 - 20:50
                  +4

                  @1st-Amendment: https://michaelwest.com.au/foreign-fossil-fuel-juggernauts-d…
                  EXXONMOBIL
                  AUSTRALIA PTY LTD
                  8 year total income
                  $82.3 Billion dollars

                  8 year taxable income
                  645,312

                  Margin
                  0.00%

                  Tax rate
                  0.00%

                  • 1st-Amendment on 14/09/2023 - 21:11
                    -2

                    @knackers:

                    https://michaelwest.com.au/foreign-fossil-fuel-juggernauts-d…

                    Yeah you got to learn to not believe everything you read on the internet. Most of it is twisted in a way to deliberately 'fabricate anger', and it looks like you bought into it.

                    From the article: "if you don’t make a profit in Australia, you don’t pay tax in Australia."

                    This is clearly false. Income Tax is only one type of tax. Even if this were zero there's a whole swag of other taxes, resource taxes, payroll taxes, GST, duties etc etc.

                    But let's assume for a moment that Company X pays zero tax of any kind but employs 20,000 staff. Is it better or worse for the economy to have 20,000 employed people all paying taxes, or have them unemployed on welfare sponging off everyone else?
                    Or to use a more realistic example, what if an increase in corporate tax meant the company had to lay off 5000 staff? Is that a better outcome or worse?

                    And if you demand 'equal tax percentages' do you support a flat income tax where everyone pays the same percentage 'equally'? Surely this is the only 'ethical' system? This will of course mean lower incomes will pay much much more and wealthier people much less. Is this the 'ethical' outcome you support?

                    • Gehirn on 14/09/2023 - 22:50
                      +3

                      @1st-Amendment:

                      Yeah you got to learn to not believe everything you read on the internet.

                      Same report as the ATO, Australia Parliament,SMH, Reuters, ABC, The Guardian, Newscorp, etc, etc. Yet you post a blog post you have to sign up to read and the intro is fluff.

                      Most of it is twisted in a way to deliberately 'fabricate anger', and it looks like you bought into it.
                      From the article: "if you don’t make a profit in Australia, you don’t pay tax in Australia."

                      You just twisted this quote to remove the context that its talking about corporate income tax.

                      Is it better or worse for the economy to have 20,000 employed people all paying taxes, or have them unemployed on welfare sponging off everyone else?

                      These people would pay taxes regardless of where they worked, and probably at one of the many actually paying income tax. Or are you saying all large companies should not pay income tax? That sounds pretty damaging for Australia.

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