• expired

[VIC] HECS Fee Paid for Students Who Agree to Teach in Secondary Government School for 2 Years after Grad @ Victoria Government

2281

After the last deal post was unpublished for being too early, and given today marks 90 days until January 1st next year, I figure we can finally share this bargain.

From media release

An investment of up to $93.2 million will provide new scholarships to support teaching degree students with the cost of studying and living – joining the Labor Government’s Free Nursing initiative, which began this year to boost the state’s pipeline of healthcare workers.

The scholarships will be available to all students who enrol in secondary school teaching degrees in 2024 and 2025, with final payments if they then work in Victorian government schools for two years after they graduate – supporting around 4,000 future teachers each year.

The total scholarship for students who complete their studies and then choose to work in government secondary schools will match the HELP fees charged by the Commonwealth Government for Commonwealth Supported Places – $18,000 for a four-year undergraduate program or $9,000 for two years of postgraduate study.

Enjoy!

Related Stores

Victorian Government
Victorian Government

closed Comments

    • +136

      Vaccine mandates have long been required in many industries and for students doing placement in those industries to keep vulnerable people they interact with safe.

      If you don’t wish to be vaccinated, no one is forcing you to work in said industries.

      Edit: voting down facts? Health industry workers and students have required vaccinations for various diseases long before COVID (or long before people started parroting nonsense from uneducated nobodies from TikTok/Facebook).

        • +115

          having to take a chip to remain employed.

          There it is…

          Tell me you’re crazy, without telling me you’re crazy.

          If you’re going to go on your anti-vax tirade, at least choose a better reason to be anti-vax.

        • +20

          A free chip?! Sign me up!

        • +14

          What? You don't want free 5G? I got that in the first month and my 5G speeds are supurb! I just don't know what I'm supposed to do when 6G comes out, will I have both 5G and 6G chips implanted, or will they somehow remove the 5G chip?

          • +8

            @Zythyx: I got the vax and my 5G at home is terrible, no reception at all. I'd ask for my money back if I'd paid for the bloody thing, it's a disgrace.

          • +3

            @Zythyx: oh nah 6G, vaccine will be injected through 6G.

        • So what do you do for a living?

        • +12

          I can tell you've never been a parent.

          Kids require all sorts of vaccinations to be allowed in daycare, school, etc.

          Yes, there have been mandates. It's been a requirement in ambo, SES, Military, police, you name it since vaccines existed. Hell. Benjamin Franklin was a proponent of vaccination, and quarantined his troops.

            • +11

              @grasstown:

              You are misquoting me. Pfizer is not like those vaccines.

              Pfizer is a pharmaceutical business, that manufacture many things, including vaccines. Pfizer isn’t ‘a vaccine’.

              The term you’re probably trying parrot from some moron you watched on Facebook is mRNA vaccine.

              If you’re going to sprout nonsense conspiracy theories, at least get your conspiracy theories correct.

            • +1

              @grasstown: To boot, mRNA has been in research since the 60's. It's hardly been rushed. Vaccines have been tested since the 90's in animals. The reason they failed wasn't safety, it's because they were too safe, the body simply attacked and destroyed the delivery mechanism before the vaccine could take effect. They're actually better for you than the normal style.

        • +3

          Let me guess, contrails are also actually chemtrails and 5G towers are hurting you?
          Imagine being this deluded.

        • +3

          Why haven't there been numerous photos of these chips? You claim there's chips in the vaccine but surely someone would have got a vaccine and put it under an electron microscope. Or doctors would have started noticing nanochips in the blood samples they observe

          Not to mention what would be the point? How would such a plan get off the ground? You can't keep a cabal of scientists, engineers and businessmen quiet.

          What do the chips do? They don't control people because how could they? We don't have mind control technology. They don't broadcast 5G because we have radio towers and what would be the point? 5G is a way of transferring data between devices wirelessly (just like 4G was, and 3G, etc.)

          How do these microchips stay charged? You'd need a battery source that is constantly on to receive the malicious signals whoever put them there are sending out

          Overall it just doesn't make sense to me. I can understand a distrust for medical companies and wishing the vaccine had been tested for longer to see if there were any adverse side effects. Unfortunately that wasn't a luxury that many places could afford

          • +6

            @SpainKing: Clinton couldn't keep a blowjob secret but ThEre'S InVisiBlE ChiPs in VacCines.

            • @Ademos: I was talking about the health passport chip for future teachers, not saying there was a chip in the vaccines.

        • +2

          This is what mental illness looks like

        • Worries about a CHIP when commenting in a public forum. COOKIES already have you tracked and profiled between your computer and mobile and yet you choose that willingly.

          • @mnemonic9: A chip decides whether you can work, see a doctor, go to school. Social credits. Not the same as tracking

            • @grasstown: Damn.

              It used to just be cookies that could tell your fortune, now chips can too?

        • +2

          Okay, whatever you say, but there's no covid vaccine mandate.

        • +53

          Yes, like the flu vaccine which is… Oh, yearly. And it doesn't cover all variations.

          But we have the tetanus vaccine right? Looks like that covers variations, but oh that's every 10 years.

          Ahh you're thinking of the measles, mumps and rubella vaccination! That one is good for life and works for all.

          Jee whiz, who would have thought this vaccine stuff is more complicated than just all vaccines are the same and last for life huh! Luckily we don't have people running around sprouting nonsense based on their lack of understanding right?

        • +9

          Ever heard of a delightful condition called ‘tetanus’? The first safe vaccine for that was invented in the 1920s and been refined ever since, but it’s still recommended to have regular boosters to maintain immunity.

            • +11

              @kashirin: Its true, 100% of decease is deadly

            • +5

              @kashirin: 97% of the population got the first jab. We're fine. You don't have to be scared.

            • +4

              @kashirin:

              "Myocarditis and pericarditis occur in the general population from a variety of causes. Not all cases that occur after vaccination are caused by the vaccine. Myocarditis and pericarditis can also be caused by COVID-19"

              "The risk of myocarditis is higher (although still rare) after vaccination with Moderna original formulation compared with Pfizer original formulation. It is estimated there are around 2 more cases per 100,000 second vaccine doses in people under 40 who received Moderna original formulation than Pfizer original formulation."

              "There is no evidence to suggest myocarditis or percarditis is more severe following a particular brand of vaccine.

              Most myocarditis and pericarditis cases linked to COVID-19 vaccination have been mild and patients have recovered quickly. Longer-term follow-up of these cases is ongoing."

              Source

              I personally wouldn't be getting all up in a huff over 2 people in 100,000. The rate of death for COVID-19 is much higher than that. If it were the trolley problem it would go like this:

              -A trolley of disease is hurtling down the track at unprecedented speeds towards a group of 3,050 people. You decide to call the track it's on COVID-19 Connection because you're the Prime Minister in this example and have that authority. Nearly all of those people are sure to die a painful death with their last breaths not even strong enough to fill their lungs. Many more will suffer

              Next to you is a lever. This lever says "PULL ME, I WILL VACCINATE THOSE PEOPLE AND THE REST OF THE WORLD (if they wish to get it) AND IT WON'T COST THEM ANYTHING. AS FAR AS THE DATA SHOWS, IT'S SAFER THAN COVID-19 RIPPING THROUGH YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM AND COMMUNITY." You're in a bit of a pickle as the PM because some of those people think the vaccines cause autism or have microchips in them. Those people are dumb so you pull it anyway (because those people are dumb) and while this mysterious lever might not be the best solution, it's the best one you have available right now and waiting would probably tear apart your country who are already getting restless with the lockdowns

          • -2

            @Chazzozz: Scientists thought thalidomide was safe…
            Trust the science.. but let others be the test subjects…

            • +7

              @Be careful: And it was, and is the safest still for some cancer treatments. There have been no fatalities from its use.

              What the scientists couldn't do was test the particular effect over just three days of embryonic development when the gradient levels of insulin throughout the developing individual were used as the signal for the growth and later apoptosis of the limb buds causing stunted or failed development of the limbs in 10,000 affected people.

              Getting the microscope into the womb at the correct time while preserving the health of both mother and future child was both unethical and unlawful so they missed the short window of opportunity to observe something totally unexpected and novel.

              We've moved on from then. We now conduct assessments utilising the loudest voices on public forums driven by charlatans who utilise fake outrage and mis-information for political gain and profit, acknowledging that anyone with any actual data of information is clearly compromised, so giving the most weight to the truly ignorant.

              • @terrys:

                What the scientists couldn't do was test the particular effect over just three days of embryonic development when the gradient levels of insulin throughout the developing individual were used as the signal for the growth and later apoptosis of the limb buds causing stunted or failed development of the limbs in 10,000 affected people.

                That's how it worked?

                Well, now I'm not signing up to this deal because I've learned all I need to in the comments.

            • +4

              @Be careful: Okay, well 97% of the population were the test subjects and I'm still here buddy. You can come out the tree now.

        • +7

          "Logical"

        • Yeah like the flu vaccine oh wait…

        • +3

          Can’t forget typhoid, if continually exposed it should be repeated every 3 years and is still a very strong protecting vaccine.

        • +4

          That is absolute BS. My man got whooping cough because he should’ve got another shot later in life. Apparently there are a few vaccines where, when you become a parent, they ask you to have a booster. Vaccines can also reduce severity rather than just not getting infected. Get off the RWNJ sites and develop your ability to think.

        • +2

          If you believe that, get your checkup son. No, most jabs are not forever.

        • +4

          What are your qualifications to make such claims?

        • +1

          97% of the population got the first jab. We're fine. You don't have to be scared.

        • -6

          I am able to read and form a valid opinion.

          The rate of fatality for Covid in my age group was 99.97%. So wasn't scared of covid

          https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/covid-19-mortality-australia…

          The vaccine is a new and novel technology and has unknown side effects. Source - Pfizer

          https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2023/08/17/pfizer-
          jnj-vaccine-covid19-south-africa-transparency-contract/

          https://healthjusticeinitiative.org.za/wp-content/uploads/20…

          ' Purchaser further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the Vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the Vaccine that are not currently known.'

          What is causing excess deaths? No-one knows but it needs to be researched.

          https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provis…

          • +8

            @Spamazon: You people post links and spew horseshit without reading them.

            Re the first link : We knew you were selfish, you didn't have to prove it. The other 97% of the population thought of others.

            The second link says literally nothing to back the claim you made regarding it. So that's a blunt lie.

            Re the "unknown effects", how much lead/warning time do you think the global population generally gets for a global pandemic and the medicine used to put a stop to it? This is normal. You don't get a 20 year runway to stop a raging, pandemic scale virus. That's basic, basic, basic logical reasoning. We knew it was killing people, we knew the vaccine was the better option, and it turned out to be exponentially the better option. Long Covid is having it's own ongoing, ravaging side effects on the neurological system we're barely starting to understand, and it's far scarier.

            Re your link on excess deaths, the opening statements are

            "There were 15,843 deaths which occurred in June 2023. This is 7.6% less than in June 2022."

            "Between January and June 2023, there were 89,497 deaths. This is 4.3% less than in 2022."

            Heart related conditions were lower

            Deaths due to ischaemic heart disease were 11.2% below the baseline average in June 2023 and 13.8% lower than June 2022.
            Deaths due to cerebrovascular disease were 11.4% below than the baseline average in June 2023 and 12.3% lower than June 2022.

            Go down the table and almost every cause of death is the same, except covid, which has? Near Halved. Halved mate. Gee. Wonder how that happened.

            So it's a downward trend, yet again, another blunt and blatant lie. Why are you so, so bad at this? Did you just copy paste without reading?

          • +9

            @Spamazon:

            The rate of fatality for Covid in my age group was 99.97%. So wasn't scared of covid

            I would be very scared.

          • +5

            @Spamazon:

            I am able to read and form a valid opinion.

            Immediately followed by:

            The rate of fatality for Covid in my age group was 99.97%. So wasn't scared of covid

            Priceless

            Doubly so when you consider not a single statistic on that page says .03% or 99.97%.

            And a fatality rate or "rate of fatality" of 99.97% would be the deadliest disease in history.

            https://www.statnews.com/pharmalot/2023/08/17/pfizer-

            Literally just talks about how maybe South Africa paid too much for vaccines. Then it gets subscriber-walled. The .pdf you shared does indeed say

            Purchaser further acknowledges that the long-term effects and efficacy of the Vaccine are not currently known and that there may be adverse effects of the Vaccine that are not currently known

            So you're scared?

            The worst effects of the vaccine are known. They're not scary. Much less scary than raw COVID

            What is causing excess deaths? No-one knows but it needs to be researched

            Apparently no-one knows about these excess deaths but you because that link you sent in literally says how there's a decrease. I'll get the police on this case right away 🚓👮‍♂️

      • who are these so called vulnerable people who didnt get covid at this point already?

      • -2

        Fact is the industry lost a lot of experienced teachers that didn’t want to be forced to be jabbed plus it’s a toxic work environment if assaults etc

        • +4

          The fact is you are talking out of your backside. My brother and sister in law are teachers. Most teachers welcomed the jab and most kids aren’t attacking teachers.

        • +4

          Fact is that's another blunt (profanity) lie. 97% of the population got jabbed. The people that left were a miniscule number, and nobody cares.

          • +5

            @Ademos: If their reasoning skills are as strong as what I've seen above I wouldn't want them teaching/around my children

      • -4

        to keep vulnerable people they interact with safe

        How specifically? If the vaccine works and you have it, then why would giving someone else the vaccine make you safer?

        have required vaccinations for various diseases long before COVID

        The logic error here is that merely calling something a 'vaccine' doesn't make it immune from scientific rigour.
        eg why is there a strong correlation between an increase of excess net deaths and 'the vaccine'?

        • +2

          That's a lie.

        • +6

          How specifically? If the vaccine works and you have it, then why would giving someone else the vaccine make you safer?

          Heard immunity is important for several reasons. But I get the feeling your not actually interested in learning anything.

        • +1

          In case you really don't know, it's because if I don't catch it because I'm vaccinated, I can't pass it on to others

    • +20

      Something tells me probably aren’t allowed within 400ft of a school and so wouldn’t be eligible for this deal. Win for you, win for society.

      • 100% I recall one particular cooker teacher who started sending out weird End Time spam across the school. He was the reason we enacted moderated approval for mass\group emails.

    • +8

      I work in schools. Across the two schools I worked at during the pandemic, we lost around 1-2% of cooker teachers and around 2-4% of cooker admin staff, so yeah nah bro.

      • -1

        Be more than that, hence the shortage

        • +9

          There was a shortage before Covid.

          • +1

            @try2bhelpful: We lost so many good teachers

            • +3

              @grasstown: That's a lie. We did not lose "many" teachers to the vaccine mandate, and the ones we lost were selfish pricks. It was killing kids as well, on occasion. Nobody cares.

              • -1

                @Ademos: We did, so many good teachers have left the profession. The teachers left are struggling and overworked. Reap what you sow.

                • +1

                  @grasstown: That's a lie. We did not lose "many" teachers to the vaccine mandate, and the ones we lost were selfish pricks. It was killing kids as well, on occasion. Nobody cares.

                  • @Ademos: Yes but without those “selfish pricks” your good ones are overworked and leaving

                    • +1

                      @grasstown: That's another lie. (profanity) all people left because of the mandate, and they were probably asshats that weren't pulling their weight.

                      You are lying. You keep lying. I will continue to call you out on your lies.

                      It was less than 1% that were notified they would be stood down. The majority of those then and went and got their 3rd jab. Yes, third.

                      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/apr/28/victo…

                      Only 180 were stood down (less than 0.5%) after missing the 1st/2nd does marks. The majority of them were stood back up when they got their shit together.

                      You are a blunt liar.

                      • -1

                        @Ademos: You can call be a liar but I know many doubles jabbed teachers who have left this past year due to the demands.

                        • +3

                          @grasstown: No you don't. I'd be surprised if you had 5 friends you could get over this weekend for a barbie

                          But no, you don't know "many" of the teachers who left this last year because of the double jab mandate. There were less than 80 of them, total, across the state. People inventing bullshit on facebook groups and lying to each other really doesn't count.

                          Even if you did know every single one of them, nobody, absolutely nobody, gives a shit. They represent less than 0.4% of the workforce, and we're glad to see them go. Tell them to continue (profanity) off, keep (profanity) off, and once they've well and truly (profanity) off, turn around and (profanity) off some more.

                          • @Ademos: Yes I do

                            • +2

                              @grasstown: No, you don't. Even if you do, your idea of "many" is miniscule to nothing in the grand scheme of teacher numbers. Sit down. Shh.

                              • @Ademos: Dude this post is about free training for teachers. That is some kind of bubble you’re in to think there is no shortage caused by the teachers who left from the mandates and the rest that followed because of the workload.

                                • +1

                                  @grasstown: It's not new demand. General population growth was already putting strain on the profession, borders closing and turning off the cheap/easy labour tap didn't help, people didn't stop having babies during Covid. Hell Northern Melbourne's been growing 5% year on year, that's 50% a decade, because I know logic isn't your strong point. No, we're not building that much new infrastructure, or training that many new people, for any of it. Schools, hospitals, police, railways, roads, ambulances.

                                  But labor's trying. Right now. The liberal never have, never did, never will.

                                  There's a growing shortage of skilled but cheap labour, and it's not because of a lack of skilled workers, or people leaving "BeCauSe of ManDates". Again, less than 0.5% of the workforce left because of mandates, you absolute flog.

                                  There's a growing shortage of people willing to work their arse off for nothing, knowing they aren't going to get a house, during the greatest generational stealing of wealth in human history outside of the fuedal system of lords itself. That just happened to occur during a pandemic. "Record profits" ring a bell?

                                  You understand a tiny fraction of the tapestry before you, and you're grasping at understanding because you're too stupid to "get it" yourself. So you fell in with the cookers, who sounded smarter than you, and you're basking in the warm glow of pretending you're not pig ignorant.

                                  You are not the smartest person in the room chief. Cope.

                                  • @Ademos: Screenshooting this. I always wanted to know how people like you think. Could never work it out. But this really helps. You make so many assumptions about me that are wrong. You need help with your anger /swearing.

                                    • @grasstown: Ask all of your imaginary former cooker teacher friends for further hot insight there sport.

                                  • @Ademos: I was interested in your comment greatest generational stealing of wealth in human history outside of the fuedal system of lords itself

                                    I look forward to learning more about what you have been reading. I assume this?

                                    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-Sociopaths-Boomers-Betraye…

                                    • +1

                                      @grasstown: You were interested in deflecting the conversation down another line of imaginary cooker bullshit.

                                      I'm just here to call you a liar, and to let you know that this isn't your comfortably cooked facebook group. You stepped outside the bubble mate, the real world thinks you're irrelevant.

                                      Speaking of which, good day to you.

                                      • @Ademos: I’m unsure where your aggression comes from. I know teachers and they tell me about their colleagues. Chill

                                        • +1

                                          @grasstown: You might know a few. They might tell you about a few.

                                          You continually stated there were a lot. This was a blunt lie. You stated you knew a lot. That was a blunt lie. You stated it was the reason for a "Teaching crisis", which is also a blunt lie. You were insistent, argued, tried linking to completely irrelevant nonsense.

                                          The best thing you could possibly do for your cause, if you still actually believe it, is stop talking. "You" are not the guy that's going to win hearts and minds to it. Sit down.

                                          • @Ademos: If someone I know tells me about someone I know of then I knew. We are talking about people who left the profession because they were overworked. We also know that many teachers nurses etc left because they refused the jab.

            • @grasstown: Like which ones? Name them and why they were so good

          • @try2bhelpful: truth here ^

            Main issue with teachers leaving the profession is a lack of admin support and therefore increased non-teaching admin work they need to perform. Not to mention lack of support from parents when disciplining of kids.

    • +11

      Does this mean you're not interested in becoming a teacher? Oh no.

      • +13

        Looks like my kid is going to miss out on anti-science class. 😭

      • Poor kids are going to go through school thinking the earth is round.

    • +1

      Intelligence test, you failed.

    • +1

      Yes, so they only want people who arent idiots

  • +17

    Time to go back to school. 😎

    • +23

      To prove to daddy that I'm not a fool

      • +1

        I’ve got much much packed up, my boots tied tight.

    • Time to quit my job in WA, move the family to Vic and go back to school. 😅

      • +7

        Good luck finding accomodation on teaching wages

        • -1

          If you can't find accommodation on a six figure salary, that's a you problem, not an income problem.

    • +3

      Do your best, silicone the rest.

  • +57

    Are they making conditions better? Otherwise they'll still quit after 2 years and we're back to square one.

    • +33

      Yeah I mean can we get the federal government to stop giving more money to private schools per student than public?

Login or Join to leave a comment