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Hyundai MY23 IONIQ 6 TECHNIQ AWD EV ~$79,000 Driveaway (Save $10,500), EPIQ ~$90,000 Driveaway (Save $5,288) @ Hyundai Australia

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Hyundai MY23 IONIQ 6 TECHNIQ AWD EV ~$79,000 Driveaway (Save $10,500), EPIQ ~$90,000 Driveaway (Save $5,288) @ Hyundai Australia
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enthusiast on 23/11/2023 - 22:47 hyundai.com (7294 clicks)
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If you want to jump on the EV (band)wagon and are considering additional offerings that aren't Made in China, here's one from South Korea:

Hyundai are having a Black Friday Event for the mid and top spec MY23 IONIQ 6. Basically you can get a decent upgrade to the mid-spec AWD from the base model RWD. And mid-spec gets upgrade to top spec (with digital side mirrors!)

Driveaway prices seem to vary from state to state so I've approximated, but here's their overview:

Enjoy a FREE upgrade from the DYNAMIQ to a TECHNIQ variant, valued up to $10,500#. Or upgrade from the TECHNIQ variant to an EPIQ valued up to $5,288#. Offer from November 24-27. MY23 vehicles only. T&Cs apply.

This is part of Black Friday / Cyber Monday deals for 2023
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    • enthusiast on 23/11/2023 - 22:57
      -7

      Probably best to let this person have @freedomofspeech and state their opinion :-)

      EVs are not for everyone. And I don't think the electricity grid would handle everyone having one!

      • Ghogger on 23/11/2023 - 23:17
        +7

        You’re actually right on the second point - a lot of work needs to be done on the transmission and distribution network to fully transition to electrified transport, including plenty of solar and wind farms for the energy.
        Electrifying our transport will double our economy’s electricity demand, so it’s a big challenge!

        • Sleepycat3 on 24/11/2023 - 00:11
          +18

          They said the same thing when we started rolling refrigerators into every home.

          • Franc-T on 24/11/2023 - 02:53
            +4

            @Sleepycat3: Im sure people are still missing the ice trucks or something.

            • CocaKoala on 24/11/2023 - 14:28
              +4

              @Franc-T: Not everyone who does not want an electric car are "missing ice trucks", alright? In other words, two extremely fanatical and far-ended views are not the only ones that exist. A middle-ground exists purely based on logic and reasoning, and this where most people are.

              In our case we have a G80 and an LS600hl but decided to jump on the EV/PHEV bandwagon to mainly take advantage of the concessions (FBT, GST being written off via a novated lease). The idea was to sell the LS which is refusing to show any signs of impending death after we've put just over 300K on it.

              Based on the EV offerings available, we figured the Tesla Model Y was the most practical for us (the other alternative was the Sorrento PHEV which had an 18 months waiting list when we asked around). We test drove the model Y twice, and then rented it via avis for 4 days. It felt like a mixed bag, and it left a lot to be desired.

              Straight off the bat the interior of the Model Y was NOISIER then that of the G80. I'll have you know that the G80 has a 3.8L V6 engine, so it must be the shit quality insulation (or the complete lack of it). This was a rude shock for us because we thought an EV would be far more quieter as it doesn't have a combustion engine, but we were wrong. The glass roof in model Y was nice, but the novelty wore off shortly once it was extremely bright outside, as my wife could not rest nicely as she would in the G80 (the G80's glass roof could be concealed from inside with the push of a button, which draws a curtain to close the glass, blocking light).

              The lack of buttons was quite annoying also (don't tell me to use voice control). I had to constantly fiddle with the touch screen for everything (even to increase fan speed). This is something I could do without looking taking my eyes off the road, but not in the model y (or any tesla as all controls are in a touch-screen). I could appreciate how some people may actually like it, but it's not for me.

              The air conditioning in the model y sucked ass, and the old lexus will freeze the model y to death in comparison. I did not like the gimmick of using a plastic card thingy for opening or locking the car - give me a keyfob instead. Yeah, I know you could keep it in the wallet or whatever, but I don't carry a wallet. And even if I did, I don't want to be "swiping a card" on the B pillar to open the car. Some might think it's petty, but these are my personal dislikes.

              Besides all, I don't know how bad the depreciation will be, or how reliable the battery will be after say 10 years. Don't tell me I should buy a new car - I have a car that's from 2008, which is still fantastic and will do another 100K if I want it to. I will replace a car when I want to, but I don't like being put in a position where I will have to sell it, because otherwise it's worthless or will shit its pants or burst into flames while plugged into a charger.

              If it works for you, great. It does not work for us all things considered, and we will keep the genesis and the lexus for the foreseeable future. The missus wants the lexus replaced with a new car, but I know it won't be an EV.

              • Dogsrule on 26/11/2023 - 12:48

                @CocaKoala:

                I did not like the gimmick of using a plastic card thingy for opening or locking the car - give me a keyfob instead. Yeah, I know you could keep it in the wallet or whatever, but I don't carry a wallet. And even if I did, I don't want to be "swiping a card" on the B pillar to open the car. Some might think it's petty, but these are my personal dislikes.

                I agree with most of the points you made, but if you're an owner you don't need the keycard at all - just set up the phone app and it unlocks as you walk up to it and locks as you walk away as long as you have your phone on you.

                You wouldn't have been able to do that while renting it of course which is why you weren't aware.

          • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 07:57
            +5

            @Sleepycat3:

            They said the same thing when we started rolling refrigerators into every home.

            True, but at the same time we were rolling out large reliable energy infrastructure projects to meet demand.
            This time around we are actually reducing supply while massively increasing demand. Do you see the difference?

            • GrueHunter on 24/11/2023 - 09:12
              +4

              @1st-Amendment: I see that none of my family in Norway has any trouble keeping the lights on

              This time around we are actually reducing supply

              Oh, so that's why suppliers are complaining about excess solar flooding the gri…hang on

              • R4 on 24/11/2023 - 09:15
                +3

                @GrueHunter: Norway has massive hydroelectric capacity. We don't.

              • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:26
                +1

                @GrueHunter:

                I see that none of my family in Norway has any trouble keeping the lights on

                90% of Norway's electricity is sourced from reliable supplies (Hydro)

                so that's why suppliers are complaining about excess solar flooding the gri…hang on

                Ok try thinking about it just a little bit…

                When the sun shines, the grid is flooded with supply. Now what happens when the sun isn't shining? Where are you getting energy from?

                Now add in that demand is not always when the sun shines, in fact it is specifically when the sun isn't shining (evening peaks), so you have high supply when no-one needs it and low to zero supply when everyone wants it.

                Now factor in that 'reliable' 24/7/365 supplies are being reduced (coal and gas shutdowns, ban on nuclear, mass hydro not practical on the driest continent on earth) and see if you can work out what where the potential problems are.

                • Nom on 24/11/2023 - 10:21

                  @1st-Amendment:

                  When the sun shines, the grid is flooded with supply. Now what happens when the sun isn't shining? Where are you getting energy from?

                  From the various energy storage systems that need to be built to cope with a grid that has variable generating capacity at any moment in time.

                  Once there are enough buffers around (grid-scale batteries, pumped hydro storage etc) then they'll be able to fill in the gaps in generation.

                  This isn't really a complicated problem, just one that costs money - this infrastructure will inevitably roll out as needed.

                  • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 10:56
                    +3

                    @Nom:

                    From the various energy storage systems

                    That currently don't exist

                    that need to be built to cope

                    So we agree the current infrastructure won't cope.

                    This isn't really a complicated problem, just one that costs money

                    Lol, and spending money is never a problem when you are spending someone else's…

                    Do you know how much it would cost to build a grid scale battery to power Australia for a potential 2 or 3 days of poor weather? To give you an idea, the largest battery in the world, Moss Landing has enough capacity to supply Australia demand for 2 seconds. You would need to build 85,000 of these at $600M a piece to cover Australia for two days, and if you got bad weather on the third day the whole country stops. This is the dream you are trying to sell?

                    • Nom on 25/11/2023 - 00:31
                      -1

                      @1st-Amendment:

                      That currently don't exist.

                      Yes, that's what I said.

                      So we agree the current infrastructure won't cope.

                      Of course, that's what I said.

                      spending money is never a problem when you are spending someone else's

                      Bingo.
                      The grid will expand to meet demand, because that's the whole point of the grid - we aren't about to become Somalia with a none functioning power infrastructure. It will cost money and we will spend it.

                      build a grid scale battery to power Australia

                      Nobody is going to do that, for obvious reasons.

                      if you got bad weather on the third day the whole country stops.

                      You're suggesting there could be three days with no sun, no tides, no wind, and no gravity, across the entirety of Australia ? The chance of the country stopping due to that occurrence is zero.

                      This is the dream you are trying to sell?

                      I'm not trying to sell anything. I'm merely pointing out the obvious conclusion that the grid will adapt as the power generation moves away from fossil fuels. Because that's it's job.

                      • 1st-Amendment on 27/11/2023 - 07:29

                        @Nom:

                        we aren't about to become Somalia with a none functioning power infrastructure

                        We reducing the reliability of our energy supply and paying more for the privilege… Progress!

                        It will cost money and we will spend it.

                        Of course, because spending other people money is easy. You'll then act surprised when inflation bites and wonder how that happened right?

                        You're suggesting there could be three days with no sun, no tides, no wind, and no gravity, across the entirety of Australia?

                        No. But anyone with a brain knows that the sun doesn't always shine and that the wind doesn't blow consistently. But hey just throw money at and a little bit of magic and hope of the best…

                        Let me guess, Labor voter?

                        • Nom on 27/11/2023 - 11:13

                          @1st-Amendment:

                          We reducing the reliability of our energy supply and paying more for the privilege… Progress!

                          As opposed to what ?

                          Are you saying that as the energy supply marches toward renewable sources, and electricity consumption increases with the switch to electric vehicles and homes, that we should save money by NOT adding the necessary infrastructure that the grid needs to cope ? For obvious reasons, I don't think this is going to be a viable option.

                          But anyone with a brain knows that the sun doesn't always shine and that the wind doesn't blow consistently.

                          Precisely why we'll need grid-level storage, and a wide mix of technologies across a wide geographical area.
                          You can't replace a 24/7 coal station with a 12/5 solar farm alone, and nobody is suggesting that you can.

                          But hey just throw money at and a little bit of magic and hope of the best…

                          I think the argument that the grid-operators plan to just "throw money at and a little bit of magic and hope of the best" is somewhat farcical. Is there some reason you assume they have no idea what they're doing ?

                          • 1st-Amendment on 27/11/2023 - 11:41
                            +1

                            @Nom:

                            As opposed to what ?

                            Stuff that works. If you forecast an increase in demand, then you have to plan for increased supply. And that supply needs to be able to supply on-demand when required.

                            Are you saying…

                            Cathy Newman, is that you?

                            You can't replace a 24/7 coal station with a 12/5 solar farm alone, and nobody is suggesting that you can.

                            They are actually… this very thread was a response to someone saying that we have excess solar during a few hours on some days so there's nothing to worry about.

                            I think the argument that the grid-operators plan to just "throw money at and a little bit of magic and hope of the best" is somewhat farcical

                            Cool. Since this is already happening it appears that what you think matters very little against reality.

                            Tell me about Snowy 2.0 and the billions and billions of taxpayer money going down the toilet? The $2B project that will now cost at least $13B and possibly close to $20B. It's so easy to spend other people's money…

                            You asked what the alternative was, here's one possible option:

                            Had that been spent on a Nuclear plant then the energy generation supply, cost, and emissions problems would all no longer be an issue. We wouldn't be having these conversations because all our energy needs would have be solved forever.

        • ky1975 on 24/11/2023 - 00:17
          +7

          At the same time the distributors are crying out their networks can't handle the surplus energy from solar panels.

          • Franc-T on 24/11/2023 - 02:54
            +1

            @ky1975: They arent the same problem.

            That said if you WFH and you have solar, your golden. I would have got an electric myself, but I wanted a performance car and any equivalent to my stinger was much more expensive so here I am.

            • ky1975 on 24/11/2023 - 08:39
              +1

              @Franc-T: Yes I WFH and have solar and have an EV, the best :)

              • Franc-T on 24/11/2023 - 13:24

                @ky1975: Will be good when they get the whole vehicle to load / as a battery going, that way when you buy a car you are also buying a home battery. For people like me who dont do tons of klms and have solar this will be a boon.

                • CocaKoala on 24/11/2023 - 14:36

                  @Franc-T:

                  Will be good when they get the whole vehicle to load / as a battery going, that way when you buy a car you are also buying a home battery.

                  The energy companies will continue lobbying our nincompoop pollies and this will not happen any time soon, even if it did. The problem with this electrification is that we are being asked to suck up the worst of what comes with it, without any of the sensible/good things.

          • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 08:36
            +2

            @ky1975:

            At the same time the distributors are crying out their networks can't handle the surplus energy from solar panels.

            For a few hours in the middle of the day no sunny days, they are then crying out that they are struggling to meet peak demands in the evening. Do you see the problem there?

            • ky1975 on 24/11/2023 - 08:58
              +2

              @1st-Amendment: Not really, they are promoting the charging of electric vehicles during the late night and early morning hours when electricity rates are significantly lower.

              There are no problems, I wouldn't worry about this at all.

              • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:13
                +2

                @ky1975:

                There are no problems

                Just becasue you haven't worked out the problems doesn't mean the rest of us haven't…

          • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:29
            +1

            @ky1975:

            At the same time the distributors are crying out their networks can't handle the surplus energy from solar panels.

            See the post above.
            Having lots of electricity when no-one needs it and not enough when everyone does (evening peak where this is no sun) is going to create issues.

            • ky1975 on 24/11/2023 - 09:33
              -2

              @1st-Amendment: Who is talking, I have addressed your concerns.

              • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:37
                +2

                @ky1975:

                I have addressed your concerns.

                Just saying "there is no problem" is not addressing any concerns.

                Where do you plan to get your electricity from when it's cloudy or dark and the wind stops blowing?

                • ky1975 on 24/11/2023 - 09:43

                  @1st-Amendment: You haven't read my comments. There is surplus energy during off-peak hours, work this out yourself.
                  And unless you have been living under a rock, we are in the process transitioning to all-electric houses, no gas. I wonder why.

                  • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:47
                    +1

                    @ky1975:

                    You haven't read my comments

                    I did.

                    There is surplus energy during off-peak hours,

                    Yeah I know because I specifically addressed this, so it is you that haven't read my comments. I'll repeat, what happens during evening peaks when there is no sun?

                    we are in the process transitioning to all-electric houses, no gas. I wonder why.

                    Crazy unhinged ideology. That is why.

            • Franc-T on 24/11/2023 - 13:28

              @1st-Amendment:

              Having lots of electricity when no-one needs it and not enough when everyone does (evening peak where this is no sun) is going to create issues.

              Going to create issues? its a known issue since networks were invented and there are lots of different technologies to store energy generated for use later. The electricity network is a hugely complicated beast and this sort of thing is factored in and planned for.

              • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 13:36
                +2

                @Franc-T:

                there are lots of different technologies to store energy generated for use later.

                Name them. I hope you have more than a battery with a capacity of 2 seconds or stored hydro which is a complete debacle

                this sort of thing is factored in and planned for.

                Show me these plans, and focus on the costs and who is paying for it all…

        • donman92 on 24/11/2023 - 01:51
          +6

          This is why we should've adopted nuclear energy - at least when SMRs are in full release.

          • Capitalshark on 24/11/2023 - 06:05
            +5

            @donman92: 100%, I lived in North Carolina a few years ago and my energy was mostly nuclear, I could run my ducted air all month, all my water and cooking was electric, and never got a electric bill higher than $40 . Imagine charging a car at those prices, and the energy is clean

            • GrueHunter on 24/11/2023 - 09:13
              -3

              @Capitalshark: Until it isn't

            • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:32
              +2

              @Capitalshark:

              and never got a electric bill higher than $40

              But the hippies said Nuclear was evil, and now we are all paying the hefty price for listening to them…

          • Bon Marche on 24/11/2023 - 06:52
            +4

            @donman92: Errr, there isn't a single commercial SMR in use anywhere in the world. Also, Australia does not have a nuclear industry. If both are available in say, 10 years, the price of generating electricity from an SMR will be nowhere near competitive to renewable sources.

            • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:33
              +1

              @Bon Marche:

              Australia does not have a nuclear industry.

              Apart from the Nuclear reactor we've had in Sydney for 65 years…

          • buckster on 24/11/2023 - 07:55
            +1

            @donman92: Which is unlikely to be soon/ever given they're unable to make them financially viable at present…

        • Caped Baldy on 24/11/2023 - 01:56

          It will make the feed in tariff reasonable though

        • glade90 on 24/11/2023 - 07:21

          a lot of work needs to be done on the transmission

          Thank lawd EVs do not have transmission :P

          Electrifying our transport will double our economy’s electricity demand, so it’s a big challenge!

          The numbers are off, but I get your point. It's a big challenge because we vote governments in for 3-4 years.

          That's only enough for them to try their best to prepare for and try to win the next election, which became their actual job.

          Everything else, such as building infrastructure, electricity grids, removing tax insensitive for the property Ponzi scheme is mostly lip-service and ultimately not in their best interest: all these would upset the NIMBYs, leading to losing on the next election.

          • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 08:07

            @glade90:

            The numbers are off,

            Show us your numbers so we may compare.
            Here's mine (back of the napkin, take with a grain of salt)

            My house uses about 15kWh/day
            My car averages 15000km/year
            According to Google a family size EV will require about 250W/km to run
            Plug those numbers all in and it works out to about 10kWh/day to run the EV and 15kWh/day to run the house. Almost double.

            And this is just my numbers, other people will have different demands, and it's also not including efficiency losses.
            So double sounds pretty close to me if you want the entire nation to run on EV's.

            • Holahowie on 24/11/2023 - 08:53

              @1st-Amendment: So that would double residential energy consumption (I guess you could maybe offset no car households with multiple car households). But residential only makes up around 30% of total consumption, so much less than double.

              • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 09:42

                @Holahowie:

                So that would double residential energy consumption

                So looks like we agree there… it's roughly double for that segment.

                But residential only makes up around 30% of total consumption, so much less than double.

                Right, but industrial/commercial also use much more transport energy than residential, ie trucks, trains, ships, planes etc consume far more energy than a car.

                So even without the exact numbers on hand, it's going to require a very large increase of infrastructure. Who's paying for all that?

      • rickdwp on 23/11/2023 - 23:21
        +18

        They are entitled to their opinion, but it adds nothing to the conversation - It's no different to someone posting "Ew Xbox, no thanks" it's pointless.

        Also saying "I don't think the grid would handle it" is meaningless if you don't know or have something to discuss - If you want to discuss why that's just wrong we can, but this still isn't the place to do so.

        • spiff on 23/11/2023 - 23:27
          -4

          Calling someones argument meaningless and pointless is meaning and pointless. What are you adding to the conversation?

          • rickdwp on 23/11/2023 - 23:39
            +5

            @spiff: I fear we are devolving into an endless loop

            • jinkerjinx on 24/11/2023 - 10:13

              @rickdwp: "I fear we are devolving into an endless loop"

              did someone say eneloop?

          • glade90 on 24/11/2023 - 07:27
            +2

            @spiff: Nothing, just another anxious kid wanting to be entitled to have her opinion without recognising others should be able to share theirs too.

            Lucky for them, we have an anonymous neg voting system to support the emotional wellbeing of such anxious kids, where the little red button here can be thought of as a "i no likey it mummy make it go away" button.

            • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 08:11
              +1

              @glade90: Stephen Fry summed this up nicely:

              “It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more… than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so (profanity) what."

      • Grayman006 on 24/11/2023 - 03:52

        At this point I thought your post was satire

      • burningrage on 24/11/2023 - 08:57

        I am not sure why OP being negged but I am stoked with this.

    • whitepuma on 24/11/2023 - 14:15
      -2

      EV haters are quickly becoming the new Vegans

      Just because you have your own opinion doesn't mean everybody wants to hear it.

  • cheekymonkey97 on 23/11/2023 - 22:48
    +77

    EVs and cars in general are so bloody overpriced in Australia. In what world can you justify $90k+ on a Hyundai and $100k+ on Kia’s like the EV9. Absolutely stupid and I refuse to play a part in it despite the fact I’m due for a new car.

    • enthusiast on 23/11/2023 - 22:49

      Is there a cheaper car out there with Digital Side Mirrors? :-)

      • mkh1991 on 23/11/2023 - 22:54
        +24

        Digital side mirrors have more cons than pros. Costly to replace, and can have light glares….

        • enthusiast on 23/11/2023 - 23:02
          +1

          I've seen more and more of them on new trucks/semi-trailers.

          • frugalferret on 23/11/2023 - 23:09
            +9

            @enthusiast: Bit harder to damage when they're 10 foot in the air.

            Also digital side mirrors make much more sense on large vehicles as they need multiple mirrors to cover blind spots on one side. Much easier with a camera system that doesn't rely on reflecting light in straight lines to the drivers eyeballs.

            Only pro on passenger cars is less wind resistance.

        • entropysbane on 23/11/2023 - 23:16
          +1

          Imagine the diff in replacement costs.

      • npnp on 23/11/2023 - 23:29
        +7

        So you are basically willing to pay $30,000 more just to have these fancy yet useless digital side mirrors.. Jeez. It's amazing to see these people in ozbargain trying to save few bucks on things but yet willing to loose all that savings multiplied 1000 times more on a stupid set of digital side mirrors…😁😁😁

      • catbin on 24/11/2023 - 00:11

        Imaging you drive your car in a heavy rainstorm. Digital side mirrors won’t give you any image apart from water drops 💦 💦

      • Jaspa7 on 24/11/2023 - 07:34

        Really? Digital side mirrors are how you justify the 50k delta between mgs/byds and Kia/Hyundais?
        I may have a wheelbarrow you'd be interested in..

        • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 08:13
          +2

          I may have a wheelbarrow you'd be interested in..

          But does it have digital side mirrors?

        • GrueHunter on 24/11/2023 - 09:15
          +1

          whoosh

    • panderiz on 23/11/2023 - 23:02
      +6

      You can get a STD range Model 3 in inventory for $59k drive away. Put it on a lease if you can, either way I can't see a better buy right now. Fuel and maitenance saving alone assuming you're doing a reasonable amount of kms.

      • cheekymonkey97 on 23/11/2023 - 23:04
        +20

        Yeh but then you own a Tesla and are associated with Musk…

        • panderiz on 23/11/2023 - 23:06

          and, what is Musk doing today that is honestly so triggering?

          • cheekymonkey97 on 23/11/2023 - 23:07
            +6

            @panderiz: He’s just an outright idiot with no concrete plan for Tesla moving forward. Keeps adding and removing shit while dangling the carrot of FSD in front of people despite knowing the current tech in Teslas can’t support it to the level he has sold it.

            • panderiz on 23/11/2023 - 23:10
              +3

              @cheekymonkey97: Check out the master plan(s), sorry but the plan is there and while I agree that the FSD is dragging out, I've not purchased it and the value in the car is still there without.

              I'd suggest his almost complete dominance with Tesla and SpaceX alone speak volumes that he isn't an idiot.

              • enthusiast on 23/11/2023 - 23:17
                +5

                @panderiz: FSD = Full Self Driving, for anyone wondering (as was I!)

                Definitely a very complex system, with so many factors:

                https://cleantechnica.com/2023/07/21/why-teslas-full-self-dr…

                • panderiz on 23/11/2023 - 23:29
                  +3

                  @enthusiast: cleantechnica opinion pieces are what I'd be betting on.

                  I agree that the final fractions of the problem that would truly make FSD as capable as the name implied may take a lot longer that Musk keeps suggesting.

                  If you read the articles from general users instead of following the development itself you might realise why they think it won't take that long.

                  As an owner, I just suggest to everyone to test drive one and build your own opinion. FSD potential is a nice thing to think I could add to the car but honestly if it didn't arrive I'd not be regretting the purchase.

            • p1 ama on 23/11/2023 - 23:19
              +5

              @cheekymonkey97:

              Keeps adding and removing shit while dangling the carrot of FSD in front of people despite knowing the current tech in Teslas can’t support it to the level he has sold it.

              Moral of the story is to never buy a promise. Pay for what you will receive today.

            • ballsau on 23/11/2023 - 23:21
              -8

              @cheekymonkey97: iM sO cLeVeR i KnOw MoRe ThAn SoMeOnE wHo Is AcTuAlLy MaKiNg BiLlIoNs 😂

              • cheekymonkey97 on 23/11/2023 - 23:23
                +11

                @ballsau: I’m not a pilot, but when I see a helicopter in a tree I'm smart enough to know somebody (profanity) up

                • GregRust on 24/11/2023 - 12:56
                  +4

                  @cheekymonkey97: Pilot here. Happy to confirm that trees are a sub-optimal landing area.

              • jackspratt on 24/11/2023 - 02:00
                +5

                @ballsau: Black Friday tomorrow - you should keep an eye out for a new keyboard.

            • rickdwp on 23/11/2023 - 23:28
              +10

              @cheekymonkey97: Don't give 2 hoots about self driving and Musk is giant douche, still bought one.

              The Model Y is still a very nice car to drive, is about 4-5x cheaper to run then my Rav4-Hybrid was, has tons of room - I'm not going to go spend more on another brand just so it's "Not associated with douchebag CEO number 1"

              • cheekymonkey97 on 23/11/2023 - 23:32
                -6

                @rickdwp: I appreciate you need to defend your purchase. I genuinely hope that I don't see a post of yours cross posted to r/realTesla one day.

                • rickdwp on 23/11/2023 - 23:36
                  +7

                  @cheekymonkey97: My guy I buy plenty of dumb shit, I have no need to defend my purchasing decisions lol. But arguing someone shouldn't buy something because it's associated with a giant douche? Might as well ask everyone to buy nothing ever

                  • cheekymonkey97 on 23/11/2023 - 23:41
                    +3

                    @rickdwp: Elon association isn't the only issue. It's also a basic car at premium prices with lots of QC issues. I too would be claiming how amazing they are if I owned one.

                    • rickdwp on 23/11/2023 - 23:49
                      +5

                      @cheekymonkey97: Basic car at premium prices - I'd partially agree with that, the interior finish is basic but it's not low quality, everything is soft touch etc. Premium price though, it's not? Compared to every other EV you get a lot for ya money with a Tesla in speed, power and range that only the heavily subsidised BYDs (not a bad thing really) are able to compete with - All the traditional manufactures can't hold a candle.

                      QC though, that's just out dated information - Back in the US built 'agile method' cars yeah 100% but with ground up custom moulds, all the Chinese built Teslas - quality is every bit as good as anyone else.

                      • x d on 24/11/2023 - 02:09
                        +4

                        @rickdwp: Ah nope. I have a tesla 3 that is now 5 months. Quality is no where near Japanese cars. Intermittent rattles coming through are driving me crazy. Miss my 2013 Lexus ISF which despite 10 yrs old had NO rattles and felt like a tank compared to the TM3. Also the windscreen wipers are just horrible. It's cheaper than an IONIC 6 and it shows. It does have far more useful boot space than the IONIQ 6 though which pushed it over the line.

                        If HEV was allowed to have FBT exemption, a Cruiser RAV4 hybrid would be a far better ownership proposition than the TM3.

                • panderiz on 23/11/2023 - 23:36

                  @cheekymonkey97: haha redit trolls, you think people out there are 'normal' and then your run into these spuds.

                  Love the fools who believe everything they see written in agenda driven media and on socials, at least in the old days they could share their stupidity beyond their two mates and kissing cousins.

                  • ballsau on 23/11/2023 - 23:53
                    -2

                    @panderiz: I think his and his alt accounts are running out of negative posts 🥲

              • panderiz on 23/11/2023 - 23:32
                +1

                @rickdwp: exactly, Elon bad mindsets are just embarassing to witness.

                Let the tech speak for itself, you certainly would have rocks in your head buying ICE/HPEV in comparable sized vehicles unless the practicality of EVs just won't work in your personal situation.

                • ballsau on 23/11/2023 - 23:38
                  -1

                  @panderiz: Seriously guys, they're obviously all shite, we have a keyboard warrior, who is far more advanced than the Muskmeister, so there is no "tech speak for itself", we've heard it from the most intelligent person ever, just let it go.

                • 1st-Amendment on 24/11/2023 - 08:20
                  +1

                  @panderiz:

                  Elon bad mindsets are just embarassing to witness.

                  But they heard it on TikTok so it must be true!

            • CalmLemons on 24/11/2023 - 00:34
              +2

              @cheekymonkey97: Have you used the UI and OS on a Tesla? Hands down murders a Bently, Rolls, BMW, Mercedes etc etc.

              For those with kids, having a large screen in the middle of your car with proper inbuilt spotify/netflix/youtube/games is a godsend while waiting in the car.

              Furthermore, ability to have the aircon on while waiting for something without your 'ice' engine on is honestly one of the best advantages of EV.

              The made in china Teslas are significantly better than the american made ones quality wise. The german ones are better again and they get nicer colours over there.

              Try to avoid the made in china ev, or go with hyundai/kia/samsung korean chaebol made. cannot escape the devil.

              otherwise there is always FORD.

            • glade90 on 24/11/2023 - 07:34
              +2

              @cheekymonkey97:

              and, what is Musk doing today that is honestly so triggering?

              …

              He’s just an outright idiot with no concrete plan for Tesla moving forward.

              I would love to see how much you achieved in your life to be able to refer to Musk as an "outright idiot".

              I mean, probably your entire list of achievements would fit on coaster, and most of it would be around the lines of building a hut in minecraft.

            • burningrage on 24/11/2023 - 09:02

              @cheekymonkey97: People need to remember that Elon Musk, as eccentric as he is, invented Tesla in the first place. I think he needs to be credited for revolutionizing driving in a way nobody ever did and only he did so by pushing the envelope so far.

              I don't necessarily like him (he's way too quirky for me) but he did good overall.

        • ashumz on 23/11/2023 - 23:52
          +1

          Wait till you see who runs the some other big companies….

          • ballsau on 23/11/2023 - 23:59

            @ashumz: Wait till you see he doesn't actually sit in a warehouse all day and build each Telsa by hand.

          • CalmLemons on 24/11/2023 - 00:35
            +1

            @ashumz: Sshhhhh. Don't tell him.

      • ky1975 on 23/11/2023 - 23:38
        +1

        The techniq is AWD

    • Gdsamp on 23/11/2023 - 23:11
      +1

      ewaste product
      Not the SUV body style we've been told we need to buy
      interior belongs in a 50k car

    • giventofly on 23/11/2023 - 23:15
      +5

      Cars in general are absurd. They isolate us and keep us poor.

      You can spend $80k on a Hyundai Santa Fe so it isn't just EVs

      • entropysbane on 23/11/2023 - 23:18
        +2

        That is a lot more car though. Completely different market.

      • TexasVujicic on 24/11/2023 - 09:21

        They isolate us and keep us poor.

        That's an interesting statement.

        I'd argue they do the complete opposite with isolation. I Wouldn't have gone away to Corowa last weekend with my mates without my car.
        poor part is only if you keep getting new ones. nothing wrong with buying a 10k second hand car and using it for 10 years if you can.

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