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Alright.

Found this CyberPower UT 850VA – because apparently, even our power needs a backup plan now. It guarantees power protection for computers, networking gear, and storage stuff – as if my power has a VIP section for electronic gadgets.

It adopts line-interactive topology with Automatic Voltage Regulation (AVR) function – are we launching a spaceship or just trying to keep the lights on? I just want my computer to stay alive, not attend a tech convention.

The patented GreenPower UPS™ Bypass design – they're talking about patents for a power thing. I just want my electricity to work, not win a legal battle. Ultra-low power consumption – are we on an electricity diet now? I just want it to power my stuff, not calculate its calorie intake.

It reduces energy costs – because apparently, my power bill needs a diet plan too. I just want to use my computer without breaking the bank. Allows a lower operation temperature – are we air conditioning our power now? I just want it to work, not become a weather forecast. Also extends battery lifespan – I didn't know batteries had a lifespan. I just want them to keep going, not attend a retirement party.

In summary, if you want your power backup to sound like a high-tech superhero with low power consumption and temperature control, this thing might be your electricity's personal trainer. As for me, I just want my power to stay on without needing a user manual.

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  • iuselect on 23/01/2024 - 09:21
    +9

    I got one of these for my NAS, runs the NAS + modem + router for about 30-40mins which is enough time to safely shut it down. Pretty handy equipment. Roigh..

    • kungfuman on 23/01/2024 - 09:26
      +8

      it runs a PC for like 5 min.

      • iuselect on 23/01/2024 - 09:30
        +8

        makes sense, PC uses far more power than a NAS. Ideally you just want it to run long enough for you to safely shut down your equipment.

        • ChatCPT on 23/01/2024 - 09:36
          -6

          and how do you shut it down if this happens when you're not at home or sleeping?

          • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:38
            -8

            @ChatCPT: Generally when I am sleeping, I notice when the power is out…… so you wake up and shut down everything.

            Not home…. well…… out of luck there.

            • kungfuman on 24/01/2024 - 08:51

              @geekcohen: do you leave you computer on all the time? I usually turn mine off when I go out.

              • geekcohen on 24/01/2024 - 08:54

                @kungfuman: Yes. 24/7 and got it on a UPS now after some regular power issues.

                It does shut down when UPS battery is 20% or so.

                I WFH and when not home, RDP into it via my laptop.

                • kungfuman on 24/01/2024 - 08:56

                  @geekcohen: I work from home all the time and even I shut down my pc every day and not leave it on 24/7 and I am in IT! unless you're running a server, then workstations or laptops shouldn't be on 24/7.

                  • geekcohen on 24/01/2024 - 09:08

                    @kungfuman: Also in IT. It's just frustrating to turn it off and on all the time and start all my applications up.

                    • kungfuman on 24/01/2024 - 09:13

                      @geekcohen: as you would be well aware desktops and laptops aren't designed for that kind of running period lol your just going to run through more desktops and laptops more often. Just saying it well worth turning them off at least once a day.

                      • geekcohen on 24/01/2024 - 09:16

                        @kungfuman: I turn off my laptop more often and overnight. Desktop hardly much. Last Desktop lasted 5 years which also ran 24/7, currently Desktop probably had about 18 months and rarely turn it off completely. Just restart on the odd occasion because its slow, but there are regular windows updates so just restart when it needs updates.

          • PR0r on 23/01/2024 - 09:39
            +10

            @ChatCPT: Depending on your setup, some operating systems have ups integration

          • iuselect on 23/01/2024 - 09:41
            +12

            @ChatCPT: I believe my NAS has a function that shuts down once it detects it goes on battery power (since it connects via usb to the NAS as well)

          • spaceflight on 23/01/2024 - 09:47
            +8

            @ChatCPT:

            and how do you shut it down if this happens when you're not at home or sleeping?

            You don't.

            The UPS does that for you

            • Jonzay on 23/01/2024 - 09:56
              +3

              @spaceflight: It's more that the UPS tells the NAS that it is on battery power, how much battery capacity it has left and its estimated remaining runtime, and the NAS uses this information to inform the owner via email of the power situation, then gracefully shut down at a predefined "remaining power" percentage/duration point.

          • Tacooo on 23/01/2024 - 13:07
            +1

            @ChatCPT: UPS software communicates via USB and shuts down when it goes on battery.

    • maddoglee on 23/01/2024 - 09:59
      +1

      It runs an 85" MiniLED TV for about 1 minute!

      • mckayver on 23/01/2024 - 13:34

        Take 10 second off that each year, Battery degradation.

    • bazingaa on 23/01/2024 - 10:08
      +1

      thanks for the information, got one for the same task. my NAS is a Win10 PC lol :D hope I can set it up for graceful shutdown detected from USB.

    • asa79 on 23/01/2024 - 11:20

      Depends on how many drives to the wattage required

    • FrugalFreddy on 23/01/2024 - 13:39
      +1

      Thinking about doing the same. Somebody commented on pure sine wave options, went down that rabbit hole then realised my Synology NAS takes 12V DC. Makes no sense to convert battery output to 240V AC (pure sine wave or not) for the NAS plug pack just to convert it back to low voltage DC again. 12V UPS's do exist but there is not a wide variety to choose from. The APC CP12036LI looked like it might be suitable, but I would prefer something with a USB connector for triggering a graceful shutdown if the power outage lasts longer than the battery capacity. Still looking.

  • Grey 13 on 23/01/2024 - 09:27
    +3

    Knew it was exactly you OP. Almost no one put a whole creative writing class into your description like you lol

    • el_cheapo on 23/01/2024 - 09:34
      +13

      More likely ChatGPT

      • ChatCPT on 23/01/2024 - 09:45
        +4

        The CyberPower UT 850VA is a device that can save your computer from sudden power outages, voltage fluctuations, and angry ghosts. It is a line-interactive UPS, which means it can adjust the power output to match the input, like a chameleon changing its color. Or like a politician changing his stance. It also has a GreenPower UPS Bypass design, which reduces energy consumption and makes the device cooler than a cucumber. Or a corpse. The CyberPower UT 850VA has three outlets for battery backup and surge protection, so you can plug in your computer, monitor, and printer, or your toaster, blender, and hair dryer, depending on your priorities. Or your fetishes. It also has a LED indicator that shows the status of the UPS, such as utility, battery, and operating mode. It can even work with generators, in case you live in a remote cabin or a zombie apocalypse. Or both.

        The CyberPower UT 850VA is a great choice for anyone who wants to protect their electronic devices from power problems, or just likes to have a backup plan. It is available from various online retailers, such as Harvey Norman², JW Computers⁴, and Catch.com.au, at different prices and ratings. You can compare them and choose the best one for you. Or you can buy them all and create a CyberPower UT 850VA fortress. The choice is yours. 😁

      • Grey 13 on 23/01/2024 - 09:46
        +3

        Yeah old mate might be hitting ChatGPT a bit hard or just finished creative writing classes and went straight up here bombarding us with these descriptions.

        Either way decent deal, got one as I am looking for an UPS for my PC anyway.

        • mckayver on 23/01/2024 - 13:37

          ChatGPT is great for people with dyslexia.

      • Karl Pilkington on 23/01/2024 - 10:24

        Better than a boring description though.

      • cerealsmok3r on 23/01/2024 - 10:28
        +1

        im glad hes taking the extra mile to do so. its one of the many things i look forward to on a daily basis :D

  • stumo on 23/01/2024 - 09:29
    +3

    I have two of these. One bigger (1600VA) and one smaller (700VA?) capacity, but mine have the LCD screen not the LEDs.

    They have been working well for over a year.

    One thing of note if you want to monitor one over a network - ie. shutdown a different or more computers to the one the UPS is directly connected to (or shutdown VMs etc), you have to pay a hefty subscription for their network tool. Fortunately these support NUT so just spin up a linux box and do it that way for nada.

    • bdl on 23/01/2024 - 09:54

      I had endless problem with usb reconnects/timeouts with my Cyberpower BR700ELCD, both on linux and under windows with winNUT. Using the suppled cyberpower windows software, no such problem. From memory there's something dodgy with the embedded Cyberpower firmware which basically caused multiple reconnects and tweaking USB timeouts didn't help.

      I usually buy Eaton and got the Cyberpower cheap via an Amazon return to try but a bit wary after the above experience. Granted, it's a different model to the OP but just something to be aware of.

      • stumo on 23/01/2024 - 10:22
        +1

        I did initially have some issues too, until I ran a dedicated linux machine (an old toshiba Z20t-C passive cooled tablet) for the NUT server side. And its been rock solid ever since - basically a year. Previously I had tried windows for the server, and also linux vms for the server, but they were always flakey like you say. You really don't want a flakey UPS setup lol.

        • bdl on 23/01/2024 - 10:34

          I ran a separate rpi, debian x86 box as well as my desktop trying to troubleshoot. Ended up staying with Eaton for my more critical infrastructure :) :)

          • bdl on 09/02/2024 - 01:09

            @bdl: I actually just found a fix for the cyberpower units with nut - used the hint at the bottom of this page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Network_UPS_Tools#CyberPowe…

            • stumo on 09/02/2024 - 11:40

              @bdl: I just used a stock ubuntu server and it all just worked. Maybe it already has that kernel tweak in it.

              • bdl on 09/02/2024 - 11:52

                @stumo: It's not a kernel tweak it's to do with the nut-driver service definition, however after more testing this morning I've further isolated it to nut versions - version 2.7.4 that dietpi ships with doesn't support the modification since the nut-driver-enumeration service is only supported on 2.8.0+ (which I'm running on proxmox)

  • cyrax83 on 23/01/2024 - 09:35
    +1

    How does UPS work? Is it basically just a big battery inside to supply 240v?

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:37
      +1

      A UPS works by constantly monitoring the voltage it is receiving from the mains supply. When the supply voltage is unsuitable or lost, the UPS will automatically switch to battery power. The UPS ensures that your devices and equipment are protected from other power issues such as electrical surges, sags and spikes or outages.

    • Phoenixzeus on 23/01/2024 - 10:21
      +1

      Usually, yeah.

      If you're going to buy one and are relatively tech savy, ensure you get one with user replaceable batteries. When the batteries die in a few years, bunnings will get you brand new ones. I did this with my APC one recently and it's acting like its brand new again.

      • Elyxar on 23/01/2024 - 19:58
        +1

        Yeah battery replacement is mostly overlooked by people buying UPS units. As the OP stated in their comedic spiel: 'I didn't know batteries had a lifespan'.

  • vash12 on 23/01/2024 - 09:36

    Whats the power consumption on these ?

    • stumo on 23/01/2024 - 09:37
      +1

      mine idle at about 5W when fully charged.

    • Castcore on 23/01/2024 - 10:04

      Yeah I get about 5W too at idle and fully charged. Annoyed me a bit because spec sheet says like 2W. If anyone knows a more power efficient one lemme know.

  • DrScavenger on 23/01/2024 - 09:37

    Wouldn't the PC blue screen anyway if you are pulling 600 watt but it suddenly drops to 400 ?

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:37
      +1

      It would probably shutdown.

    • spaceflight on 23/01/2024 - 09:55
      +6

      Just because you have a 600w PSU doesn't mean you are pulling 600w though.

      • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 10:01

        Whilst true, it would fluctuate. That is what I have noticed for my computer and UPS.

        My UPS can go from an estimated run time of 40 mins to 20 mins without really doing anything like opening Photoshop.

      • DrScavenger on 25/01/2024 - 09:28

        Imagine that I'm gaming.

        • spaceflight on 25/01/2024 - 12:21
          +1

          When you are gaming just because you have a 600w PSU doesn't mean you are pulling 600w though.

    • realaccount627465746 on 23/01/2024 - 10:15

      it will probably be fine?

      a line interactive ups will have a quicker reaction time than a standby one like this.

      a double conversion one won't have that problem at all

      https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/blog/how-does-a-ups-work/

    • stumo on 23/01/2024 - 10:29

      On these they will cut out if you try to overload them. I initially tried a 700VA one on my workstation, and it would instantly cut out. Granted this was a dual Xeon machine with 192GB of ram and like 4 SSDs, but not doing a massive workload.

      So I had to change to a 1600VA one for it to work. The 700VA one now runs my internet/network devices.

  • montorola on 23/01/2024 - 09:37

    I take it you're from the Gold Coast? Lol

  • ChipP on 23/01/2024 - 09:38

    Any recommendations for something that will keep power for only a few minutes? I have random power outages that last only a few seconds long sometimes and I want something to stop the NAS losing power

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:39
      +8

      This UPS is perfect for that.

      • ChipP on 23/01/2024 - 09:49
        +1

        thanks, grabbed it

        • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:51

          I had a bit of a similar thing too and it was enough for my computer to reboot and the network equipment. Got a UPS for each and it's perfect. Got larger UPS' though.

          Tempted to get this one for my garage equipment.

    • klaw81 on 23/01/2024 - 09:44
      +2

      This UPS will work really well for that use case.

      To be honest, it's overkill - your NAS likely doesn't use much power, and in theory you could use something with a lot less battery storage capacity and it would work fine. However, you will struggle to find a smaller UPS for less than $100 - this deal represents excellent value.

    • iuselect on 23/01/2024 - 11:21

      I have this one for my DS423+ and it will run it + the router + nbn box for about 30mins if there's a power outage. Make sure you get one with a usb outlet as it connects to the NAS and the NAS can generally handle the automatic shutdown when it reaches a certain % of remaining power.

  • Tinqer on 23/01/2024 - 09:47

    Anyone know if this one communicates well with Unraid. As in, it could send some sort of shutdown command when needed?

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:48

      It does have a USB connection on the front, so probably would be able to do that.

    • Castcore on 23/01/2024 - 10:05
      +1

      I use this exact model with my unraid server. It supports various rules for shutting down the unraid server.

  • Yuri Lowell on 23/01/2024 - 09:49

    This no good for a gaming PC that exceeds 425W?

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:49
      +1

      Nope. Would last all of 2 mins before the UPS is then flat.

      • Grey 13 on 23/01/2024 - 10:10

        Enough to turn the PC off safely I guess. Unless you were wanking off.

  • automated on 23/01/2024 - 09:51

    "This item cannot be shipped to your selected delivery location. Please choose a different delivery location."

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:52

      Must be in an odd location then….. works for me in Warragul VIC.

      • bdl on 23/01/2024 - 09:55
        +1

        The units are probably in VIC distribution centre, Amazon are funny with lead acid batteries since they can't be shipped via air.

        • realaccount627465746 on 23/01/2024 - 10:18
          +1

          i get that error all the time just from being in a vaguely regional area.

          they won't deliver this to me in lithgow, but a sydney address is fine. they're not flying it here from sydney.

          • bdl on 23/01/2024 - 10:35

            @realaccount627465746: I've had it in metro Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne depending on the item - even sometimes ordering the same item to an address I'd ordered it to in the past. Only ever found it affecting me with (separate) lead acid batteries or UPSes :)

            • realaccount627465746 on 23/01/2024 - 10:46
              +1

              @bdl: i get it for all kinds of stuff, aerosol cans, hair dye and other "chemical" things as well as things with batteries. but yeah there's no consistency

  • s3n on 23/01/2024 - 09:52

    This isn't a massive deal since there's a few options for this model around $105, $119 in computer stores

    I'd upsize if you really need it for a PC that needs more than 425W rather than cheaping out

    • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 09:55

      This isn't a massive deal since there's a few options for this model around $105, $119 in computer stores

      Do share some links?

      I'd upsize if you really need it for a PC that needs more than 425W rather than cheaping out

      100%

    • Autoxbox on 23/01/2024 - 10:05
      +1

      $119 with free powerboard at Computer Alliance - shipping might kill it if you're not in SE Qld though
      https://www.computeralliance.com.au/850va-cyberpower-ut850eg…

  • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 23/01/2024 - 09:55

    Opened because of the OP's username, hoping for themed content. Wasn't disappointed.

  • Ozzster on 23/01/2024 - 09:57

    I couldn't find it's waveform on their website. Does it have a true sine wave signal?

  • roberte on 23/01/2024 - 10:03
    +1

    Thanks OP, I've been looking for a reason to add a UPS to my NBN NTD and router.

    For the record, I have a CyberPower UPS connected to the computer I'm typing on and it's saved me several times. My Mac mini is set to shut down after 10 minutes if power isn't restored. Most applications quit gracefully on shut down.

    • Jonzay on 23/01/2024 - 10:13

      Does your FTTP NTD not have a UPS already? Did they stop including them with new installs?

      • brosk1s on 23/01/2024 - 10:34

        Yep, had my FTTP upgrade yesterday and no battery backup box was offered for the NTD

    • Gracey on 23/01/2024 - 11:27

      @roberte Any idea how long this would power an NTD + Router? I've measured approx 20w usage for both devices at my house right now.

      The CyberPower website has it rated for 20 mins @ 90 watts, so a 20w draw should last 90 minutes I guess.

      • roberte on 23/01/2024 - 16:00

        Nope, sorry Gracey!

        I'm intending to use for when the mains is switched off so the router, etc, doesn't have to reboot after a hard shutdown. I'll probably plug in another Mac mini used as a NAS.

        • Gracey on 24/01/2024 - 01:42

          No worries! I’m chasing a solution to keep internet up during extended power outages. I’ll keep looking around.

  • dkingsho on 23/01/2024 - 10:12

    Tried to add one to cart but won't ship to Tasmania.

  • geekcohen on 23/01/2024 - 10:13

    Price now up to $105.

    • WhyAmICommenting on 23/01/2024 - 10:40
      +1

      Yep, had one die after a couple of years of it hardly doing anything

    • greennick on 23/01/2024 - 10:50

      They have decent reviews online, so it seems like maybe more isolated and model dependent issues than anything?

    • HeXa on 23/01/2024 - 11:22

      yeah - tradeoff with SLA batteries and 'dumb' circuitry

      my next UPS (more like an EPS) will be something like a EcoFlow River, as note misson critical needs at home, so I can live without shutdown controls and 0ms switch speeds

      • Elyxar on 23/01/2024 - 20:25

        I just checked out the EcoFlow website. I now have a new record for the number of scripts wanting to run from just one webpage! 45! That is nuts! Product looks ok.

    • NigelTufnel on 23/01/2024 - 13:21

      Had a VALUE600EI connected to my NAS for about a year and a half until i smelled a strange burning smell coming from my office. Couldn't detect exactly where it was coming from, but it was around the UPS, unplugged it and the smell faded. Thankfully nothing more than a smell occurred but I contacted Cyberpower and they replaced it.

      I am yet to install the new one though…

    • Tacooo on 23/01/2024 - 13:36
      +2

      Meanwhile the last half a dozen or so $2.5k Eaton rackmount UPSes to come through my company have all died within a few months. Then there's APC which charge a bullshit amount for network shutdown software on a subscription model. You can't win with any of them.

  • autolux on 23/01/2024 - 10:24
    +1

    i have a had a CyberPower BR850ELCD for about 5-6 years, worked perfect, pretty much just using it for TV + PS5 + NAS but the NAS is really never on… I believed this was overkill the BR850 - but since I've started playing a specific ps5 game when theres a lot of flashes on screen during gameplay, it triggers the CyberPower long beep which is unbelievably loud and annoying… basically cannot play it while people are asleep.

    Its the beep which means its being overloaded, and sure the PS5 game may be causing a short burst in power/fan use but this seems ridiculous to me given its rating.

    Any recco's? CyberPower's response is to get one of their units with sin wave tech which are many times more expensive. I'm tempted to workout how to disable the speaker or something because thus far i cant workout how to disable the alarm beeps via the unit itself.

    • realaccount627465746 on 23/01/2024 - 10:27
      +3

      i'd recommend not running your tv from the ups

      • autolux on 23/01/2024 - 10:33

        TV on ups is just unnecessary? i thought it was just a good idea to prevent powerouts causing any tv damage and hadn't had any probs til this point.

        guess i just plug it into just the surge side? i think its 4ports UPS / 4 ports surge protection

    • Look Up on 23/01/2024 - 10:35

      BR850ELCD = max 510W output
      PS5 = max 350W usage
      TV = using more than 160W during the HDR/white scenes when the panel backlight is flashing brightest

      Any recco's?

      Calculate the combined max wattage of your TV + PS5 + NAS, then buy an APC or Eaton UPS that is true sine wave and meets that wattage requirement

      • autolux on 23/01/2024 - 10:52

        ah right, hadn't considered the OLED brightness draw. makes more sense…

      • ileonid on 23/01/2024 - 10:59
        +1

        Buy Eaton, APC is a branded crap. Our office running 2x APC UPS powering the server and NAS, both failed within 3 years. The issue is not about the battery, the UPS unit failed, it just cuts the power without power outage without sending any "message" to NAS, the power just suddenly gone. It's better to run the server without APC UPS instead of having them. Changed to 1x Eaton + 1x Cyberpower, no problem.

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